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Mayflowers
Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 12:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Mayflowers,
All I see in the book about the "meaning" of ulnar loops is that if you have 8 or more you could have an increased chance of Alzheimer's and cognitive disease later in life. It says having 8 or more is common in Nomads.
Not sure it that helps much  


Yes Lola, I have the book. Since it was released. I have all his books except the cancer one.  

Thank you Heidi! What page is it on? That's what I meant when I asked if anyone knows what it means..  
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The last paragraph on page 44.



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Thanks! I remember reading it and then when I went back to find it I couldn't
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I had my appt at the clinic today...and I went from a nomad to a gather to an explorer..and now Dr. C says I'm probably a nomad..so I obviously am incapable of doing my own measurements haha...but all went well, I was nervous at first...but yes, Dr. C is very very nice and I felt right at ease...looking forward to my second appt  
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I like to try new things a lot because I'm forever trying supplements and getting a reaction, and Dr. C, said maybe I was an Explorer. She said my head was too small to be a Warrior! A deformed Warrior? ..She wouldn't really say what she thought I was so here I am still in suspense for 2 more weeks. sigh.
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Hi mm and Mayflowers,

At least you don't have to wait until May 1st! But I needed to change my appointment because I feel totally wiped out and need to get better before traveling again.

I did find out I'm a nonnie though. I like this A nonnie diet much better than I would like the explorer diet which I may be. But I'm losing too much weight too fast.

I react to all kinds of supplements that should help me - and beneficial A nonnie foods.....  I would think it would not be very beneficial if you can't tolerate those foods that are supposed to help the most... All in all, most of the A diet has been my diet for over thirty years. I'm just not allowing the extras that were never good for me...
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I like to try new things a lot because I'm forever trying supplements and getting a reaction, and Dr. C, said maybe I was an Explorer. She said my head was too small to be a Warrior! A deformed Warrior? ..She wouldn't really say what she thought I was so here I am still in suspense for 2 more weeks. sigh.


OK...so you're type A, a secretor and rh positive and I thought you couldn't possibly be
an Explorer if you've got those characteristics.  I kept saying all along that I believed I was
an Explorer and not a Warrior and I've got your same A positive and secretor status.  There
might be Explorers among us and we weren't included in the group because either our
secretor status or rh factor didn't fit the profile for Explorer.

If there are exceptions to the Explorer status, and if being both secretor and  having a positive rh factor might include us some of us "chemically sensitive individuals" , I'd think many of us doubtful type A Warriors and Teachers need to know if we're typing ourselves incorrectly.

Mayflowers, are you good or bad on caffeine?  I'm awful.  I could drink a cup of coffee
at noon and be wired and lose sleep because of it.  Also many supplements totally disagree
with me.



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Hi Chloe,

I don't drink coffee due to my osteoporosis, but I do well with it - other than the fact that if it's too strong it puts me in a very deep sleep - a wonderful sleep!!!
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OK...so you're type A, a secretor and rh positive and I thought you couldn't possibly be
an Explorer if you've got those characteristics.  I kept saying all along that I believed I was
an Explorer and not a Warrior and I've got your same A positive and secretor status.  There
might be Explorers among us and we weren't included in the group because either our
secretor status or rh factor didn't fit the profile for Explorer.

If there are exceptions to the Explorer status, and if being both secretor and  having a positive rh factor might include us some of us "chemically sensitive individuals" , I'd think many of us doubtful type A Warriors and Teachers need to know if we're typing ourselves incorrectly.

Mayflowers, are you good or bad on caffeine?  I'm awful.  I could drink a cup of coffee
at noon and be wired and lose sleep because of it.  Also many supplements totally disagree
with me.



I'd like to know the answer to this too. There is an O+ secretor on the Explorer thread that says Dr.D told him he is an Explorer. According to the book that can't be. Makes me wonder if maybe there are a few exceptions to the rules that we don't know about.  




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Mayflowers
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Mayflowers, are you good or bad on caffeine?  I'm awful.  I could drink a cup of coffee
at noon and be wired and lose sleep because of it.  Also many supplements totally disagree
with me.


No, Chloe, I don't do well on caffeine. Keeps me awake, makes me nervous, irritable, and triggers anxiety if I drink too much or really caffinated coffee, like Starbucks.  I usually got a latte at Starbucks, so I wouldn't get so much caffeine.  I feel the two cups I usally drink a day, one is instant, is pretty good for the digestion. How about you?  

Didn't Dr. D say there are no crossovers? Like, having some of the characteristics of one genotype and being another? Personally, I was thinking Dr. C was making a joke when she said that...Because we can't be Rh+ and be an Explorer. Unless I had my first NAP secretor test come back in error and I'm really a nonny. I am very chemically sensitive.

Really Heidi? An O+ Explorer?  We really have to ask Dr. D about that..Heh, heh, I will have the opportunity soon....I don't understand..unless he's finding out more from his research after the publication of the book...
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No, Chloe, I don't do well on caffeine. Keeps me awake, makes me nervous, irritable, and triggers anxiety if I drink too much or really caffinated coffee, like Starbucks.  I usually got a latte at Starbucks, so I wouldn't get so much caffeine.  I feel the two cups I usally drink a day, one is instant, is pretty good for the digestion. How about you?  

Didn't Dr. D say there are no crossovers? Like, having some of the characteristics of one genotype and being another? Personally, I was thinking Dr. C was making a joke when she said that...Because we can't be Rh+ and be an Explorer. Unless I had my first NAP secretor test come back in error and I'm really a nonny. I am very chemically sensitive.

Really Heidi? An O+ Explorer?  We really have to ask Dr. D about that..Heh, heh, I will have the opportunity soon....I don't understand..unless he's finding out more from his research after the publication of the book...


In the book (and I'm pretty sure I remember this correctly...can't find the exact page where
I read it), it says that if you're caffeine sensitive you're almost always an Explorer.  It doesn't
state that there might be an exception with the secretor status or rh factor...it merely
states that Explorers are known for their caffeine sensitivity.  I can't drink any caffeine.
Chocolate will keep me awake if I have it at night. I crash and burn from caffeine...break
down and start crying because I feel so anxious!

I'm  waiting to hear what genotype you really are.  



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I'd like to know the answer to this too. There is an O+ secretor on the Explorer thread that says Dr.D told him he is an Explorer. According to the book that can't be. Makes me wonder if maybe there are a few exceptions to the rules that we don't know about.  



According to the book O+ secretor can be Gatherer,Hunter, Explorer (men only).


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OMGoodness Chloe! Can you be an Explorer?  Now I'm wondering. I swear Chocolate keeps me up at night too! Girl we have to change your avatar! Do you live close enough to go to the clinic? I found the explanation on page 41. It's SO ME. One drink and I'm buzzed! I usually have to take less medication than prescribed! Could I be an Explorer? The plot thickens...

Heidi, I can't be a Nomad.  It's Blood type B and AB. No A's there.
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Because we can't be Rh+ and be an Explorer. Unless I had my first NAP secretor test come back in error and I'm really a nonny.


the RH status has nothing to do with the nonnie status.....
you can be a nonnie, being either RH positive or RH negative.
think you are confusing the RH with the non stat, right?


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OMGoodness Chloe! Can you be an Explorer?  Now I'm wondering. I swear Chocolate keeps me up at night too! Girl we have to change your avatar! Do you live close enough to go to the clinic? I found the explanation on page 41. It's SO ME. One drink and I'm buzzed! I usually have to take less medication than prescribed! Could I be an Explorer? The plot thickens...

Heidi, I can't be a Nomad.  It's Blood type B and AB. No A's there.


I live about an hour from the clinic...but I'm waiting to see if you're an Explorer.  I only could
chose between Warrior and Teacher as my secretor status is positive. (It's been done twice)




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According to the book O+ secretor can be Gatherer,Hunter, Explorer (men only).


What chart do you see that on? I see non-secretor O+'s but not secretor O+'s. I must have missed it.




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..She wouldn't really say what she thought I was so here I am still in suspense for 2 more weeks...


Well, think about it this way.  You have been following Dr. D.'s work for so long.  Isn't it going to be an amazing experience to hear him speak those words to you personally?  Now how could I ruin that for you....    

I just want to take this opportunity to tell you all what an absolute pleasure it was to meet each of you.  I look forward to sharing your experience with you when you meet the good doctor!  
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Well, think about it this way.  You have been following Dr. D.'s work for so long.  Isn't it going to be an amazing experience to hear him speak those words to you personally?  Now how could I ruin that for you....    
  


I agree!!  



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Well, think about it this way.  You have been following Dr. D.'s work for so long.  Isn't it going to be an amazing experience to hear him speak those words to you personally?  Now how could I ruin that for you....    

I just want to take this opportunity to tell you all what an absolute pleasure it was to meet each of you.  I look forward to sharing your experience with you when you meet the good doctor!  


Awwww gosh back..thanks     I knew what you were doing...
I am a pretty smart Warrior with a small head.   And if he says I'm an Explorer, I'll be floored.. I'm too tall to be a Teacher...my index fingers are too short... and I have the dreaded arch....
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I just want to take this opportunity to tell you all what an absolute pleasure it was to meet each of you.  I look forward to sharing your experience with you when you meet the good doctor!  

Dr. Colicci, I'm so impressed with each post of yours I read.  For example, do you realize that you just spent more time and expressed more caring for your patients in that one post I just quoted than a primary care doctor I went to for the initial "get to know you" appointment (as in, supposedly a LONGER appointment than usual) a few years ago did for me in the entire visit?  The entire appointment was about five minutes long, max, and mainly consisted of her asking something, then immediately interrupting and downright rudely dismissing me every time I attempted to respond.  She seemed shocked and quite irritated that I was actually attempting to give her information on my individual health history and that I had a collaborative 'tude and style.  She put the kibosh (sp.?) on that right away.  Nipped that in the old bud, she did!  It was like:  "Shut up, give me monosyllabic answers ONLY, do not embellish or say anything that I don't consider relevant (and you should know what those things are or are not by virtue of your ability to read minds), do NOT attempt to give me your individual history, it doesn't matter, I know everything I need to know by virtue of going to medical school and all human beings are EXACTLY the same with no unique medical history whatsoever, and do not answer me with what you think the answer is, answer me with what I think I need to know, and above ALL:  do NOT waste my time."  If you have ever seen the "Soup Nazi" episode of Seinfeld, she sort of had the Soup Nazi style of interacting with her patients!!!

Actually, I don't think she said as much as that sample sentence I gave, as that sentence would take way longer to utter than the total elapsed time of my initial (and ONLY) visit to her.  Contrast that with you, who not only takes ample time with your patients at the visit, including taking a detailed history and, very importantly, LISTENING to what the PATIENT thinks is important, but who also CARES so genuinely that you take your time to come onto an internet forum and tell your patients again just for good measure how much you care.

Color me mightily impressed.  (And jealous that I don't have a doctor like you--can you clone yourself and send the copy down to Florida?  Oh, wait, they don't recognize naturopaths down here, dang it.  *sigh*  Nevermind.)


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Heidi, I can't be a Nomad.  It's Blood type B and AB. No A's there.


I am pretty sure I didn't say you could be a Nomad We A's have only three "choices", Warrior, Teacher and Explorer.

I'd still like someone to point out to me where in the advanced charts an Rh+ Secretor is listed as an Explorer. I've gone over every bloodtype several times and can't find one. But I am half blind, so maybe I need help  





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Mayflowers,
It says having 8 or more is common in Nomads.
Not sure it that helps much  


Heidi, I was just saying, I couldn't be a Nomad because of what you posted..I was trying to be funny...my bad

The only time, I don't have the book with me, that I believe I saw an Rh+ be an Explorer was a male.  I think. If you were female, it would be Warrior.
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Np, Mayflowers   I see now why you said that.

Rh+ yes, but not Rh+ and secretor. The Rh+ Explorers I see are non-secretors. You can be Rh+ and a nonnie, or Rh- and a secretor, but I still can't find an Explorer lisiting for someone that is both Rh+ and a secretor. Unless like I said I am just overlooking it. (My eyesight is not all that great thanks to the stroke I had -due to eclampsia- after my girls were born.)



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Sorry to hear about your sight.  I have an annoying floater that obstructs my vision at times.  One of the things that Warriors are supposed to have is high blood pressure. Mine's low. Usually textbook, 110/70 and sometimes 90/60. As a matter of fact I have all low risk factors for heart disease.

My mom and sister are the same way. My father however had high blood pressure all his life. I bet he was a true Warrior. He was 6'3" and his head was big. He ended up having a stroke. Can a Warrior be 5' 1"? My mom was an A+ also and had a bit of a short temper. A little Warrior?

I do believe you're right. I don't have the book with me at work. Maybe that's what I remember. Unless my first secretor test was in error. I wonder if that's ever happended? I do remember a member who was complaining that they did it twice and it was different each time a couple of years ago.
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That's fascinating! I've been pondering my partner's genotype for a while, as he has SO many of the explorer traits. But since the home test makes him an A+, it's very unlikely that he is. More likely a teacher.

It's pretty confusing though... He gets on great with animal protein, lean red meat etc, has markedly shovelled front teeth and no extra cusp. I really don't think wheat or spelt can be good for him though(he had a lifetime of digestive problems until i discovered the BTD and dropped wheat), so is his blood type even right  ?

Must persuade him to go and give blood, and then we can save up for a secretor test


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