I really enjoyed my appointment. I was Genotype tested, measured, finger printed, breath tested...

I'll find out next visit what I am but I suspect I am a Warrior. Dr. C is such a nice person!

Man, this suspense would drive me crazy! At least you enjoyed your appointment. That beats the life out of most doctor's visits even when you like your doc and staff!

Keep us updated!!!!!  That is totally cool.  Did you get a lollypop?  Hehhehhehehehehhe.

Hi Mayflowers,

I was wondering if you had gone yet. I thought Dr. C was really great also. And I too need to wait to find out my genotype.

Please let us know how the appointment with Dr. D goes.....

carol

No, I didn't get a lollipop..  

Carol, when are you going back? You went way before me.

Spring, I'm ok. I saw in my finger prints one finger had an arch shape so that's a sign of a Warrior in the book. That's why I'm not so dying of curiosity.  I thought at first maybe an Explorer but when I got home and looked it up, Explorers are all A- and I'm an A+ and all the A+ people were female Warriors, no matter what the leg, torso and finger measurments were.

Slight possibility of a Teacher but I doubt it. I think the index finger has to be longer to be a Teacher and my ring fingers were longer. It was so much fun, all those tests!

Looking forwarding to meeting Dr. D in a couple of weeks!

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No, I didn't get a lollipop..  

Carol, when are you going back? You went way before me.

Spring, I'm ok. I saw in my finger prints one finger had an arch shape so that's a sign of a Warrior in the book. That's why I'm not so dying of curiosity.  I thought at first maybe an Explorer but when I got home and looked it up, Explorers are all A- and I'm an A+ and all the A+ people were female Warriors, no matter what the leg, torso and finger measurments were.

Slight possibility of a Teacher but I doubt it. I think the index finger has to be longer to be a Teacher and my ring fingers were longer. It was so much fun, all those tests!

Looking forwarding to meeting Dr. D in a couple of weeks!

Is it that simple? ..".A positive females are definitely Warriors no matter what the leg, torso
or finger measurements were"?????

Can you please explain.  

It's not that simple because I'm A+ and may possibly be an explorer.

Mayflowers, I changed my appointment because I'm really run down and traveling would take too much out of me right now. I made it for May 1st. I have a monster cold sore, chilled to the bones for a week, and sobbing non-stop - that would not make for a good visit with Dr. D.....

Please let me know how your next appointment goes...... carol

Make yourself some really, really compliant A-nonnie foods and eat only those for a couple of days.  You'll feel better.  I make lentil soup when I feel like that.

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Is it that simple? ..".A positive females are definitely Warriors no matter what the leg, torso
or finger measurements were"?????

Can you please explain.  

If you look at the pages in the advanced section, I am an A+ secretor, so I looked at all the sections containing A+ secretor and the females were Warriors no matter what the leg/torso and lower leg to upper leg was if the ring fingers were longer. My index finger is not longer which would disqualify Teacher. Both of my ring fingers are longer. capeesh?  (I am Italian)

Feel better Carol..are you getting enough magnesium?  Try some supplements. I looked up magnesium deficiency and it said, depression, fatigue are signs. Also irritability.  

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It's not that simple because I'm A+ and may possibly be an explorer.

Mayflowers, I changed my appointment because I'm really run down and traveling would take too much out of me right now. I made it for May 1st. I have a monster cold sore, chilled to the bones for a week, and sobbing non-stop - that would not make for a good visit with Dr. D.....

Please let me know how your next appointment goes...... carol

Hope you feel better.  I see how you could possibly be an Explorer as a non secretor.

But for a secretor female who is A positive, is Warrior the only option?  How are we
ruling out Teacher?

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But for a secretor female who is A positive, is Warrior the only option?  How are we
ruling out Teacher?

It does seem the only option...expect because my index finger is shorter than my ring finger on both hands. If say one of my index fingers was longer, I could be a Teacher. I sound so knowledgable, .... Dr. C said my head is small for a Warrior.  Warriors have big heads  ..Could I be a deformed Warrior? My finger prints all have ulnar loops except one archy finger..I'm trying to find what the ulnar loops mean..and one thumb is a composite...Anyone know?

The only thing that might make a difference is, when I did the NAP secretor test, it was wrong when the results came back "secretor".   So lets see what my blood says. I'm interested if I'm a MM or NM or whatever that means...


.. I still have to see Dr. D to confirm in a couple of weeks.

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It does seem the only option...expect because my index finger is shorter than my ring finger on both hands. If say one of my index fingers was longer, I could be a Teacher. I sound so knowledgable, .... Dr. C said my head is small for a Warrior.  Warriors have big heads  ..Could I be a deformed Warrior? My finger prints all have ulnar loops except one archy finger..I'm trying to find what the ulnar loops mean..and one thumb is a composite...Anyone know?

The only thing that might make a difference is, when I did the NAP secretor test, it was wrong when the results came back "secretor".   So lets see what my blood says. I'm interested if I'm a MM or NM or whatever that means...


.. I still have to see Dr. D to confirm in a couple of weeks.

A deformed Warrior???? Funny!  My thighs are very plump.  I'm a different kind of deformed
Warrior!  

That's how I ruled out Teacher.  Both of my ring fingers were longer than my index and I have a big head as do my two grown Warrior sons. (ouch on getting them through the birth canal..... good thing I don't remember delivering my big headed children!)

I wonder why it is that we can do our measurements and know our genotype by the time we've
answered some questions and you still aren't 100% sure you're a Warrior after you've seen
Dr. D ????  

I haven't seen Dr. D. yet.   I only got my tests done yesterday.

Results in two weeks.  Well, I'll tell you I got my measurments wrong. I measured my upper leg as the same length as the lower leg when in fact the upper leg was longer. I measured my index finger 50 times and it was longer than the ring fingers. I even went out and bought a little ruler! I watched her measure the fingers yesterday and they do it different from the book. So I was wrong on my finger measurments also.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure I'm a deformed Warrior. I just want Dr. D to confirm it.

My ring fingers are really very obviously longer...I can stand up straight and hold my arms down at my sides and look in the mirror and see how much longer my ring fingers are compared
to my index fingers.. I confirmed it with a ruler but I really didn't need to.

So...How did they measure your fingers?

With a see through ruler from underneath. Funny, if I look at my hands, my ring fingers are obviously longer, but if I measure the way the book illustrates in the picture, my index fingers measure longer!  It's so odd.  

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With a see through ruler from underneath. Funny, if I look at my hands, my ring fingers are obviously longer, but if I measure the way the book illustrates in the picture, my index fingers measure longer!  It's so odd.  

I think it's because the base point starts off at a different level, so just looking in the mirror is deceptive and gives the wrong impression.Someone once suggested photocopying your hands and measuring from the print out, also keeping in mind that the photo in the book shows which side of the finger to measure up.

Well I thought I was a teacher until I have been reading all of your comments. Now I wonder. Guess I have better go back and remeasure and study some more. Thanks for the info.

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Well I thought I was a teacher until I have been reading all of your comments. Now I wonder. Guess I have better go back and remeasure and study some more. Thanks for the info.

Then there is this other characteristic that relates to the finger measuring...whether your
genetics gave more estrogen or testosterone.  Would that relate to men?  Men with higher
estrogen?

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Then there is this other characteristic that relates to the finger measuring...whether your
genetics gave more estrogen or testosterone.  Would that relate to men?  Men with higher
estrogen?

Ring fingers longer than their index fingers... exposed to lots of androgens.  More estrogen means longer index fingers.

yes...it works for either gender....some men have rounder thighs  and some women have straighter ones, etc.

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My finger prints all have ulnar loops except one archy finger..I'm trying to find what the ulnar loops mean..

Ulna = Bone in lower arm (this corresponds with the pinky side of the hand)

Ulnar loops start form the pinky side.

They differ from radial loops which start from the thumb side.
Ulnar loops are more common.

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Ulna = Bone in lower arm (this corresponds with the pinky side of the hand)

Ulnar loops start form the pinky side.

They differ from radial loops which start from the thumb side.
Ulnar loops are more common.

Yes, but what do they mean?

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comment on page 71 of the book to mean that a radial loop and and ulnar loop were considered to be a match: "The type of loop doesn't matter for our purposes, only whether it is a loop or not.

loops have one delta, Arches have No deltas, Whorls have Two deltas
Mayflowers,
have you received your GT book yet?
it explains a few things on dermatoglyphics....
here, using the search button I so enjoy! lol
http://www.google.com/custom?q.....itesearch=dadamo.com
and here on ulnar loops
http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Dermatoglyphics

Mayflowers,
All I see in the book about the "meaning" of ulnar loops is that if you have 8 or more you could have an increased chance of Alzheimer's and cognitive disease later in life. It says having 8 or more is common in Nomads.
Not sure it that helps much  

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Dr. C is such a nice person!

Awwwwwww shucks...  
Wait until you meet Dr. D.!