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Friday, March 7, 2008, 11:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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For as long as I can remember I have always needed something sweet after supper. In times past I have used ice cream as my drug of choice. Does anyone else experience this phenomenon? It's like I just can't rest until I have a sweet to finish things off.


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I have a sweet tooth...not for ice cream. I like cakes, pies, pastries...my favorite is anything Italian...and cheesecake.
I'd better stop. I still have 25 more pounds to lose.  
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The way I handle this is to always eat something sweet (complex carbohydrate) with my evening meal.  Compliant, that is!  I don't eat desserts, no sugar, etc, so I came up with a couple of things that really satisfy me in the evening.

1. sweet potato or baked sweet squash with ghee (or butter).  I'll have some kind of fish with this for my evening meal.

2. lightly toasted rice cake spread with almond butter and chopped walnuts and lightly drizzled with blackstrap molasses.

No need for anything else sweet.



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Yes, Focus.  It's an addiction that you can break, but it's hard.  Try a bowl of complaint cereal or some fruit (I know, I know, fruit after a meal is "bad," but it might help you break the addiction).  After you get used to that, you might be able to just do a handful of raisins, then move to a handful of nuts or something.  The B Nomad guy I'm married to used to eat a bowl of cereal right before bed.  Simply being on the BTD cured his hypoglycemia and he doesn't even think about food before bed anymore unless I make a vegetarian meal, then he's hungry right after we eat.    I'm going to set the baby on my lap down in just a minute, then I'm going to post part of a chapter in a really interesting book I found at my MIL's house.  You'll see it up in a few minutes.


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The way I handle this is to always eat something sweet (complex carbohydrate) with my evening meal.  Compliant, that is!  I don't eat desserts, no sugar, etc, so I came up with a couple of things that really satisfy me in the evening.

1. sweet potato or baked sweet squash with ghee (or butter).  I'll have some kind of fish with this for my evening meal.

2. lightly toasted rice cake spread with almond butter and chopped walnuts and lightly drizzled with blackstrap molasses.

No need for anything else sweet.


Hi Victoria ... hope u're well  
I also love to eat fish with sweet potato and vegetables ... with olive oil, paprika/ turmeric mix with seasalt of course !!
Do u eat sweet potato everynight ?

I also love manna bread with almond butter and molasses, it DOES indeed satisfy the sweet tooth,  although manna bread shouldn't be eaten daily, I realize  
Perhaps I'll try it with rice cakes next time ...

Another snack that I enjoy immensly is a couple of broken up rice cakes, tossed with dried raisins and chopped walnuts; sprinkled with seasalt ... so yummyyyyy

Millet bread with a little goat soft cheese and compliant jam is also delcious; as is millet bread with butter and compliant jam
or
compliant toast bread with almond butter and honey ...now THAT'S
really yummilcious !!

I love sweets  

Cheers






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For as long as I can remember I have always needed something sweet after supper. In times past I have used ice cream as my drug of choice. Does anyone else experience this phenomenon? It's like I just can't rest until I have a sweet to finish things off.


There are so many things you can make with all these syrups and honey. A nice oat bran/flour muffin eaten with ghee and honey would be delicious to me! Or something made with rice flour to have with cherry jam that you can make with one of your sweeteners. Jam is sooooo easy to make. Just put the fruit in the microwave and cook down just a little while (you may need to add a tad of water if the fruit is not very juicy) then add  honey or syrup - whatever flavor you like and cook to the consistency you want. Easy, easy. You can make a fourth of a cup at a time until you get the hang of it. About the same amount of honey as you have fruit would probably be all right for me because I don't like things really sweet. If it isn't sweet enough at first for you, just add some more honey!

I am on the same page with you about this dessert deal! I love dessert!
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I love sweet potatoes too. One of the things I find hard to give up.

I used to substitute peanut butter with raw honey as a snack on toast.
I think it's my favorite combo pb and honey. tasty.

Do some of you have some foods that are avoids that they just refuse to give up?
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Do some of you have some foods that are avoids that they just refuse to give up?


I've stayed with as many diamonds as possible for these two months, but I don't think there is any way that I will be able to avoid sweet potatoes at T'giving and Christmas!
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I've stayed with as many diamonds as possible for these two months, but I don't think there is any way that I will be able to avoid sweet potatoes at T'giving and Christmas!


There are varieties of seafood I will eat on occasion.  Wild shrimp, clams, lobster tails or
king crab. I determine if I'll eat foods like this in restaurants if they're from Alaskan waters,
Brazil, South Africa or parts of the world where toxins are less prevalent in waters than in
America.  Also, I simply love seafood and it's worth eating no matter what diet I follow.
If choices in restaurants are poor, I choose seafood over chicken because I can't eat
gluten grains, dairy or eggs and often shrimp are my best option.

I sometimes just have cravings for saurkraut and will sit down and eat half a jar. We get
cabbage back after 3-6 months anyway so I don't feel guilty at all.

I do the best I can as much as possible, but I'm human, love to go out with friends for dinner
and just won't be happy denying myself having a good time~  Sometimes the healthiest
thing you can do for yourself is to have a good time!  And go back to being compliant the
very next morning.  The only way i can commit to being on any diet for the rest of my
life is to have planned moments of free will food options. I still believe the heart and soul
of the Genotype diet is in the diamond foods.  And those are the ones I mostly focus on
eating every day.




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Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. I think I can beat this.  


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I've stayed with as many diamonds as possible for these two months, but I don't think there is any way that I will be able to avoid sweet potatoes at T'giving and Christmas!


Maybe Sweet Dumpling squash.  At least it's only a black dot food for warriors.  

Of course, your two holidays only  come twice a year!  



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Maybe Sweet Dumpling squash.  At least it's only a black dot food for warriors.  

Of course, your two holidays only  come twice a year!  


And not only that, it is a long time before either of them come again, so, hopefully, I'll be in a lot better shape.  It is amazing how well I'm doing in spite of NOT enjoying a lot of these foods a good bit of the time!! Right now I'm eating salmon with broccoflower and fruit and this broccoflower has all the worst attributes of broccoli and cauliflower!! I do not like it!!! It might be delicious to me if it were fresh off the stalk but it has a taste that reminds me too much of mold even though it looked all right, and I washed the stuff until it should have been squeaky clean. I haven't figured out anything that will hide this taste. It needs to be smothered in a good YELLOW cheese sauce!

I had navy beans for lunch that tasted just like a tired old dried up bean should! Will I ever escape these beans!?! I think Ruthie said she didn't eat beans. I need to talk to that girl! She is doing very much all right by something.
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focused, I checked and dates are a superfood for nomads.  Do you like them?  Today I had an organic medjool date for the first time...and OMG!!!  They are sweet and candy-like.  To me it was like brown sugar fudge, both in taste and texture.  I had no idea such a thing existed!  It will now be my go to food when I need a sweet...and a superfood to boot!  Life is good.

(I also tried a deglet noor date...not nearly as sweet, but still good!)


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I've had terrible cravings for sweets for as long as I can remember, and I think I've definitely been 'addicted' to sugar for a very long time. Things were a bit better on the O diet, but since I've started the Gatherer diet, the miracle has occured : I no longer crave!

And even better, whereas before I could (with enormous effort) go cold turkey for a few days, adapt quite well, and then binge big time after a tiny square of chocolate, now I can indulge occasionally (usually socially), and then happily go back to nibbling rice cakes and/or almonds.

For the after dinner cravings, I've found that fruit juice works quite well (feels indulgent and hence dessert-like), or sweet fruit like apples or medjool dates (so sweet they make my teeth hurt - can't eat them any more!). Or almonds, come to think of it. Nuts seem very satisfying, and definitely feel like a sweet. Tea with a bit of honey (or appropriate sweetener) seems to work as well. When I've cracked and gone for commercial sweets in the past, I've found it very hard to get to sleep afterwards... Another incentive to cut out the sweets.


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Scroll down and read the 6th paragraph and see the part about craving sweets when vitamin C is low in the body.

How Vitamin C Works in the Body   written by Tessa Jupp  Ref: Age-Defying Diet  R Atkins MD St Martin's Press  New York  2000  "Why Animals Don't Get Heart Attacks"  M Rath MD Health Now  San Fran.1998  Perspectives in Nutrition G Wardlow Mc Graw-Hill USA 1999  "Nutritional Augmentation of Oncology Care" paper by C Simone MD at 2nd World Conference of Nutrition and Vitamin Therapy in San Fran 2000

Vit C is acidic and is also a reducing agent ie it works as an antioxidant by donating or receiving extra oxygen to stabilise another molecule, like iron, making it more soluble so that it can be absorbed.  This is why the doctor may tell us to take Vit C at the same time we take iron tablets.  Iron tends to bind up the bowels but as well as changing iron to a more absorbable form, taking a little more Vit C than the body really needs will attract more water back to the bowel by osmosis, keeping faeces soft and easier to keep moving through the gut.  This way we dont get constipated.  Conversely, too much Vit C will give us diarrhoea, as too much water will be drawn back to the gut.  This will leave our circulation levels low so we need to drink sufficient water not to become dehydrated and thirsty.  This is also an excellent way of determining how much Vit C we need - enough to keep our bowels working regularly every day without effort but not to make them too loose.
  
Note that magnesium and calcium use the same absorption sites so should not be taken together or they will be competing to use the same "gates".  These 3 minerals leave the gut early, which explains why magnesium works so quickly (within 5 -15 minutes) particularly when taken on an empty stomach.  Phytates found in grains bind minerals so that they cant be absorbed so avoid eating cereals, bread etc at the time you take minerals.
  
Glucose, from carbohydrate foods leaves the gut soon after and this stimulates insulin release to prepare body cells for glucose and energy  production.  Fat and water soluble vitamins leave the gut next.  Vit C is a water soluble vitamin so is absorbed at this point.  It also uses the same receptors as glucose to enter the cell membrane.  So if we have eaten a lot of simple sugars, as in sweets, cool drink etc, less Vit C can be absorbed because the receptors are already in use.  Complex carbohydrates, vegetables and grains release glucose more slowly so there is less competition for receptors sites.  Proteins, amino acids, fats and water leave the gut in succession after this.
  
Sodium and potassium leave further on down the gut, followed by B12 ( intrinsic factor in the stomach prepares B12 for absorption here) and bile, that enters after food leaves the stomach to help protein and fat digestion, is reabsorbed here too.  The large intestine gives up more sodium and potassium, water, acids and gases before the remaining undigestible food bulk moves on to the rectum for exit from the body.

Vitamin C is similar in structure to glucose. Animals that can make their own Vit C use glucose to make Vit C.  When we need Vit C we crave sweet foods because if we ate as nature intended, the only sweet foods available would be fruit, which would supply us with Vit C and satisfy our need for something sweet.
  
Vit C is required for many chemical reactions in the body, from carnitine and sperm production to immune function in dealing with colds, cancer etc  In 1935 Dr Klenner reports successfully curing polio with 80 Gm of Vit C per day.
  
Dr Simone speaking on "Augmentation of Oncology Care"  at the 2nd World Conference of Nutrition and Vitamin Therapy in San Fran 2000, told how a high dose of Vit C deprives quickly dividing cells of the necessary oxygen for growth by its antioxidant properties.  Cancer cells and also viruses and bacteria, that depend on getting extra glucose to promote cell division, can be flooded by excess Vit C which uses the same receptor sites to enter the cell in competition with glucose.  The extra Vit C shuts down the oxidative energy reaction in cancer cells, inhibiting protein kinase C which increases cell division and proliferation.  This disables oncogene expression and increases the bodys inhibitory growth factor.  In fact antioxidants decrease abnormal cell growth rate, whilst eating lots of sugar rich and high cholesterol foods feeds cancer cells and other fast dividing cells like viruses etc.  There have been over 350 studies that show the success of Vit C used in this way.  Large doses are required to flood the system.  That is why it is recommend we take 1000-2000mg of Vit C 1 -2 hourly when we are sick or to bowel tolerance (which will increase in times of sickness and stress.)
  
Another area Vit C is very important in is collagen synthesis.  Collagen is fibrous connective tissue that lines surfaces. eg skin, blood vessels, bone, tendons etc.  It consists of 3 polypeptide chains wound together like a plaited rope.  If the strands are tangled instead of plaited, the rope or lining is weak and leaky.   So we get thin fragile skin and other body linings that leak, bruise easily, break down, bleed, swell up, heal poorly.  Skin becomes itchy, and/or a burning, crawling sensation when Vit C is low.  Heat rash responds to extra Vit C, skin temperature improves and blood pressure is lowered.  Vit C increases HDL levels leading to a reduction in cholesterol.  It also has a blood thinning role and is an excellent alternative (so is Vit E) to take instead of aspirin to thin the blood.  Vit C inhibits platelet aggregation that leads to clotting.  Vit C and Vit E work almost as well as Warfarin.  If doctors doubt this ask them to do a clotting time to see - I have.  Drugs like Tagamet, Zantac, Sudafed, cortisone and broad spectrum antibiotics, block antioxidants passing into cells so predispose to cancer.  Aspirin breaks down collagen, in joints too.  Vit C however, builds it up.
  
Processed foods like white flour and sugar, have lost vital vitamins and minerals in refining so are major causes of high blood pressure, heart disease, arthritis, cancer, diabetes etc, primarily due to electrolyte imbalance, including low Vit C.  In diabetes, increased blood glucose and insulin resistance, block the entry of Vit C to cells so depressing the immune system for up to 5 hours after ingesting sugary foods.  This results in poor healing, increased cholesterol, being infection prone, peripheral neuropathy and cataracts.
  
Vit C and Vit B5 are the main ingredients of cortisone and adrenaline production, and also depress histamine and allergic reactions.  For these reasons Vit C helps control asthma and hayfever, and helps with stress.
  
It is important to take the right sort of Vit C for your blood group.  O and B need a calcium ascorbate.  A1 and AB need sodium ascorbate.  A2 needs a combination of both calcium and sodium ascorbates.  Alternatively, orange flavoured for O and AB.  Blackcurrant flavoured for A1, A2 and B.  Split the dose, take 2 or 3 times a day and take to bowel tolerance to be most effective.



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Vitamin C is similar in structure to glucose. Animals that can make their own Vit C use glucose to make Vit C.  When we need Vit C we crave sweet foods because if we ate as nature intended, the only sweet foods available would be fruit, which would supply us with Vit C and satisfy our need for something sweet.


I'll try upping my C intake and let you know how my sugar cravings are..  

Thanks

I use to take high doses of C and then I read that over 2 grams of C will cause kidney stones.  I have a family history of them, so I got scared and cut it down.
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That's an interesting and informative article, Chloe.  Thank you!

Back to dates for a moment . . an incredible sweet treat is a medjool date filled with a favorite compliant nut, or soft cheese.  



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And not only that, it is a long time before either of them come again, so, hopefully, I'll be in a lot better shape.  It is amazing how well I'm doing in spite of NOT enjoying a lot of these foods a good bit of the time!! Right now I'm eating salmon with broccoflower and fruit and this broccoflower has all the worst attributes of broccoli and cauliflower!! I do not like it!!! It might be delicious to me if it were fresh off the stalk but it has a taste that reminds me too much of mold even though it looked all right, and I washed the stuff until it should have been squeaky clean. I haven't figured out anything that will hide this taste. It needs to be smothered in a good YELLOW cheese sauce!

I had navy beans for lunch that tasted just like a tired old dried up bean should! Will I ever escape these beans!?! I think Ruthie said she didn't eat beans. I need to talk to that girl! She is doing very much all right by something.


       Your comments made my day.


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read "Sugar Binges" about 2/3 of the way down the page:  

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/archive-062004.html



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We are having a party at work today and I volunteered to make a cake.  I have already eaten several pieces, I am ashamed to say.  But I am telling everyone so that you will know that I am doing what my 'signature' says.  I am starting over now.  We all stumble, but we have to get up and keep going.  Thanks, m.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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meribelle, I guess I'll be   with you. I had birthday cake yesterday. It was sooooooooooo good. Chocolate cake w/ whipped cream icing. And yes, I feel every bite of it today.  
I'm dusting meself off too.  



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I hurt to think about how awful I would feel after eating a piece of iced cake today!   I do so pity both of you.  How about Deflect? Do you take it? Take some extra Vitamin C. Load up on anything you think might help. I feel terrible today, too, but it is because I am exhausted, my stomach has absolutely rebelled against beans, I feel as if I am eating fish around the clock to try to keep going, and I am sick of nuts and seeds! I need at least twenty-four hours of sleep to get back to normal. I'm sure I will feel better when I take my supplements, but I just could not stomach them at 6:30 this AM. Hope the day gets better for all of us.  
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Spring, you need some turkey.  Bake yourself a turkey breast in the oven along with some carrots, celery and onions, and enjoy a huge, warm meal tonight, complete with brown rice with ghee all over it and plenty of sea salt.


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I hurt to think about how awful I would feel after eating a piece of iced cake today!   I do so pity both of you.  How about Deflect? Do you take it? Take some extra Vitamin C. Load up on anything you think might help. I feel terrible today, too, but it is because I am exhausted, my stomach has absolutely rebelled against beans, I feel as if I am eating fish around the clock to try to keep going, and I am sick of nuts and seeds! I need at least twenty-four hours of sleep to get back to normal. I'm sure I will feel better when I take my supplements, but I just could not stomach them at 6:30 this AM. Hope the day gets better for all of us.  


My stomach keeps periodically rebelling against everything. I feel as if I've had one bug
after another the entire time I've followed the Warrior diet... It seems to keep going in a
wave.  Days where I can eat lots of veggies, green drinks, beans and then suddenly for
absolutely no reason, I wake up bloated, feeling sick, achy and I almost feel I would love
to take an herbal laxative to get rid of everything inside me, good and bad.  It's a bizarre
feeling and maybe it's related to a healing crisis.

The Healing Crisis

AKA: The Cleansing Reaction, The Detox Reaction, and The Herxheimer Reaction
Jon Barron

The Healing Crisis was originally observed while administering antibiotics during the treatment of syphilis, but was later identified during the treatment of other illness and in a wide variety of natural healing programs. It is characterized by a temporary increase in symptoms during the cleansing or detox process. Reactions may be mild or they may be severe. You should expect it and work with it. It is an indicator that the cleanse is working.
There are several causes:

The body must go through an elimination process to achieve good health. There will be ups and downs. You do not go immediately from disease to good health. This elimination process is what we call the "healing crisis." The healing crisis is the result of every body-system, in concert, working to eliminate waste products through all elimination channels and set the stage for regeneration. The end result: old tissues are replaced with new.
There are three distinct categories of Cleansing Reaction
     1      When any treatment or cleansing program causes a large scale die-off of bacteria, a significant amount of endotoxins (toxins within the bacteria itself) are released into the body. The more bacteria present, and the stronger their endotoxins, the stronger the cleansing reaction.
     2      When any treatment or detox causes the organs of the body (particularly the liver, which is a storehouse of drug and poison residues) to release their stored poisons and toxins, a cleansing reaction may occur.
     3      Any program, such as fasting or the use of weight loss herbs which causes a rapid breakdown of fat cells (which are a storehouse for toxins), can be accompanied by a detox reaction.
Specifically, we can now see that a variety of cleanses and/or products can initiate a detox reaction.
           Category 1
     ◦      Intestinal Cleansing and Detox Programs can obviously trigger a die-off of bad bacteria in the intestinal tract and colon.
     ◦      Likewise, use of the probiotics will cause a die-off of bad intestinal bacteria (as much as 3 1/2 lbs worth) as new beneficial bacteria take their place.
     ◦      Digestive enzymes when first introduced can literally eat up colonies of bad bacteria, thereby releasing their endotoxins.
     ◦      And use of immune enhancers and pathogen destroyers can produce die-off, not only in the intestinal tract, but throughout the entire body.
           Category 2
     ◦      The liver is the primary processing and storage organ for drug residues and poisons in the body. The primary purpose of the Liver/Gallbladder detox program is to flush those toxins out of the body. The bottom line is that this makes the use of this program one of THE most important for improving your Baseline of Health, but also the program most likely to cause a healing crisis.
     ◦      Use of an herbal blood cleansing program can likewise initiate a Herxheimer reaction
           Category 3
     ◦      Rapid weight loss, when fasting for example, can also produce a healing crisis as toxins previously lodged in the fat cells are released into the blood stream
Symptoms

The healing crisis will usually bring about past conditions in whatever order the body is capable of handling at that time. People often forget the diseases or injuries they have had in the past, but are usually reminded during the crisis. Reactions may include:
           Increased joint or muscle pain
           Headaches
           Diarrhea
           Extreme fatigue and/or its opposite, sleeplessness
           Nausea
           Sinus congestion
           Fever (usually low grade) and/or chills
           Frequent urination and/or urinary tract discharges
           Drop in blood pressure
           Skin eruptions, including: boils, hives, and rashes. Note: skin eruptions are often misdiagnosed as allergic reactions, resulting in the premature cessation of the cleansing program.
           Cold or flu-like symptoms
           You may think that you actually feel worse or that the treatment is not working at all during a cleanse. Do not despair. These are all signs that your treatment is working and that your body is going through the process of cleaning itself of impurities, toxins and imbalances.
           Such reactions are temporary and can occur immediately -- or within several days, or even several weeks, of a detox. Symptoms usually pass within 1-3 days, but on rare occasions can last several weeks.
If you are suffering from a major illness, the symptoms you experience during the healing crisis may be identical to the disease itself. A cleansing, purifying process is underway, and stored wastes are in a free-flowing state. Sometimes discomfort during the healing crisis is of greater intensity than when you were developing the chronic disease. This may explain why there may be a brief flare-up in one's condition. Often the crisis will come after you feel your very best. In fact, most people feel a surge of energy during the first few days of a cleanse. It is at that point that your body dumps toxins into the blood stream for elimination. Thus the healing crisis. Do not be upset. It means your body is eliminating the toxins. Go as slowly as your body needs to so that your elimination is gradual and comfortable.
With a more serious condition there may be many small crises to go through before the final one is possible. Everything must be considered and given its proper place in the build-up to a healing crisis. You should expect it and work with it.
Easing Your Way Through the Healing Crisis
           Drink plenty of fresh water (especially water), juices, and herbal teas to flush the body of toxins.
           Use colon stimulation formula to make sure that you are eliminating waste promptly. Symptoms frequently disappear immediately after a good bowel movement.
           Use ground flax seed daily to absorb toxins and to help speed their transit through the system.
           On occasion, a good enema or colon-irrigation can provide relief.
           Sometimes, rest is the best therapy.
           And, on rare occasions, a reduction of the dosage or temporary cessation may be required.



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If you all can pick up the magazine Psychology Today March/April issue it has an article entitled "Consuming Passions" which is the latest research on the mind-body problem of appetite.

I will be happy to mail anyone a copy of the article if you send me your address by PM.

Here is the excerpt I found extremely enlightening and true for myself - (my personal comments in italics:

"The dopamine reward system is implicated in compulsive gambling and drug abuse, as well as in eating and sex.  Consequently, Wang and other researchers have begun to suspect that obesity, eating disorders, and even the ordinary urges of appetite might resemble addiction. (DAAAA)  Bart Hoebel's studies of rat junkies show that every drop of sugar syrup they swallow causes a surge in their dopamine levels - a benchmark of desire and a bio-chemical marker of substance abuse."

"Boosting dopamine time after time is what drugs of abuse do," Hoebel says.  That makes you wonder whether food might have addictive properties."  (Well I AIN'T Wondering!)

"Actually, it's the other way around:  Drugs have addictive properties because they tap into appetite's pleasure network.  Food, you might say, is the original addiction.  Edibles high in fat and sugar are known to cause release of the group of feel-good chemicals known as opioids, (oh boy do I know!) which mask pain and promote euphoric sensations. (you bet your bottom dollar!)  The same brain receptors that bind the opioids released by Double Stuf Oreos also respond to morphine and herion, with more pronounced results." (boy am I glad I never got into herion - those poor souls...)

"Food gives you a modest physiological response via those pathways; drugs give you a tremendous response," says psychiatrist Walkter H. Kaye, director of the eating disorders program at the Univeristy of CA, San Diego.  "Drugs hijack the food-reward pathways."

"So it's not surprising that food can become as much of an obsession as controlled substances.  Like human addicts, Hoebel's rat sugar junkies develop hypersensitive dopamine receptors that overreact to a variety of drugs of abuse, and the changes are long term; even after a month of abstinence, the taste of sugar incites the rats to addictive behavior.  Boggiano's Oreo-bingeing rats have long-term changes (and this is the important part) in their brain opioids that somehow make them unusually responsive to highly palatable foods.  Even a single morsel of cookie will trigger a binge, much as a single drink can send an alcoholic on a bender." (one bite and I'm a goner...)

And the article goes on to talk about how calorie restricting diets or food group restricting diets set the brain up for binge behavior.  

I'm so glad that they are finally diving deeply into the food addiction behavior issues.  This article made me realize even more that I cannot, cannot, CANNOT take one bite of sugar or wheat - even after a long term sobriety - without suffering grave consequences.  I've messed my brain over with years and years and years of calorie restricting eating regimes mixed with bingeing behaviors.  It's been since I was a kid!  I don't think my brain chemistry is going to heal overnight!  And after reading this, I'd rather not take the chance.  It's too painful to try and get abstinent again.

Don't forget, if you want a copy of this article, please PM me.


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I especially liked the suggestion to use ground flax to absorb toxins and hurry them along. This all makes perfect sense to me after going through the Candida detox innumerable times during the course of my treatment several years ago.

Sometimes my stomach feels exactly like a bucket of boulders has been thrown in there. And get the gaseous beans in the mix and it is enough to make a person want to take an entire bottle of strong laxative, which I NEVER take!!!!! AND to never touch another bean as long as I live - right now they seem plain nasty to me! Sorry, Lola, but I'm literally hiding from these things. You might know I have a big pot of them in my fridge!!! But they are going in the garbage when I get up enough strength to overcome any guilt feelings.

Yeah, Ribbit, I have been dreaming about a nice, big turkey breast all day today! Didn't get to it tonight, though, but I go to the grocery tomorrow......!!!! Even those turkey burgers that I had grown tired of on the BTD are beginning to entice me! I have been outside nearly all day getting caught up on my yardwork that has been neglected for weeks and weeks, so I just had fish and a big salad tonight. Now, I will have a small bowl of yogurt, soy milk, ground flax and a little hemp cereal with some fruit.
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I especially liked the suggestion to use ground flax to absorb toxins and hurry them along. This all makes perfect sense to me after going through the Candida detox innumerable times during the course of my treatment several years ago.

Sometimes my stomach feels exactly like a bucket of boulders has been thrown in there. And get the gaseous beans in the mix and it is enough to make a person want to take an entire bottle of strong laxative, which I NEVER take!!!!! AND to never touch another bean as long as I live - right now they seem plain nasty to me! Sorry, Lola, but I'm literally hiding from these things. You might know I have a big pot of them in my fridge!!! But they are going in the garbage when I get up enough strength to overcome any guilt feelings.

Yeah, Ribbit, I have been dreaming about a nice, big turkey breast all day today! Didn't get to it tonight, though, but I go to the grocery tomorrow......!!!! Even those turkey burgers that I had grown tired of on the BTD are beginning to entice me! I have been outside nearly all day getting caught up on my yardwork that has been neglected for weeks and weeks, so I just had fish and a big salad tonight. Now, I will have a small bowl of yogurt, soy milk, ground flax and a little hemp cereal with some fruit.


Spring, I was reading all the Warrior information again today in the Genotype Diet book and
it specifically says that one of our genetic weaknesses is digestive complaints.  I have had
more digestive complaints on the Warrior diet than I ever did on the Blood type diet for A.  I have to  assume it's going to get better for us. I agree that the gaseous beans are simply disgusting to me this week too. I keep dreaming about turkey and more delicate flavored foods without all that fiber, yet it's fiber that I need to keep things moving.  Ground flax seeds might be the way to go.  Everything I've read about upping fiber like flax seed is that we
need to be drinking extra fluids to make sure we don't create a clump of fiber in our colons and maybe another good idea would be to divide up the flax dose up and take it a few times during the day rather than in one serving.  Dr.D speaks about lignans (in flax seeds) being necessary for Warriors and mentioned sesame seeds,(I guess they're high in lignans as
well)  yet I believe they have a black dot and we can't have them yet.  But we can and should
have flax.  Today I'm doing a flax experiment. I put flax oil in a smoothie and will try to
incorprate some ground flax seeds into my diet.... Will report back.



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This post might belong in another thread but I'm addressing this to Spring who seems to have
the same perpetual digestive upheaval that I keep having on the Warrior diet.

I was noticing that the BTD addresses irritable bowel problems.  Could it be that you and I
would be feeling better on the type A diet instead?  Spring, do you think you've got irritable
bowel problems or food allergies?

I want to reach the 3 month mark before I assess my overall progress on the Warrior diet.
But I just wonder if the type A diet wasn't better suited for me.   When I see that "hunger"
is a strong Warrior trait, I realize I'm never really hungry.  And rarely craving sweets. And
don't have any diabetes in my family.  But I do have allergies, arthritis, skin conditions
and probably poor immune function.  I think I've already answered my own concerns.

Spring, how did you do on the type A diet?  Digestive problems?  I rarely had any.


"BTD" Conditions
0.80 Food allergies
0.80 Blood disorder
0.35 Arthritis
0.20 Skin condition
0.20 Irritable bowel
0.20 Thyroid condition
0.20 Headache
0.20 Poor immune function

"GTD" Conditions
1.25 Trying to lose weight
0.20 Diabetes
0.20 Dementia
0.20 Cancer
0.20 Hypertension
0.35 Hungry
0.35 Aging
0.20 Chemical sensitivities



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I can't even tolerate flax. It makes me nauseous.  So Chloe, you haven't handled your weight on the BTD?

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Quoted from Chloe
This post might belong in another thread but I'm addressing this to Spring who seems to have
the same perpetual digestive upheaval that I keep having on the Warrior diet.

I was noticing that the BTD addresses irritable bowel problems.  Could it be that you and I
would be feeling better on the type A diet instead?  Spring, do you think you've got irritable
bowel problems or food allergies?

I want to reach the 3 month mark before I assess my overall progress on the Warrior diet.
But I just wonder if the type A diet wasn't better suited for me.   When I see that "hunger"
is a strong Warrior trait, I realize I'm never really hungry.  And rarely craving sweets. And
don't have any diabetes in my family.  But I do have allergies, arthritis, skin conditions
and probably poor immune function.  I think I've already answered my own concerns.

Spring, how did you do on the type A diet?  Digestive problems?  I rarely had any.


"BTD" Conditions
0.80 Food allergies
0.80 Blood disorder
0.35 Arthritis
0.20 Skin condition
0.20 Irritable bowel
0.20 Thyroid condition
0.20 Headache
0.20 Poor immune function

"GTD" Conditions
1.25 Trying to lose weight
0.20 Diabetes
0.20 Dementia
0.20 Cancer
0.20 Hypertension
0.35 Hungry
0.35 Aging
0.20 Chemical sensitivities



Cloe, I was getting sick of the Type-A diet. I was so tired of chicken it was almost as bad as the way I feel about beans! Having said that, though, and coming on with a big BUT I found after I started the GTD and getting out from under the mental fog I was in, I realized that I had been eating yogurt that was NOT cultured after I called the company and asked if they actually cultured their milk, and they said no!!!!! All that money for $.99 yogurt down the drain for YEARS, and no telling how many problems it was causing me. Also, corn was giving me fits and I was blaming the problem on other things because my stomach didn't actually hurt when I ate it. The pain always came later when I ate something else.

Also, my cholesterol was getting higher and higher on the BTD and I was doing everything I knew to do to bring it down. And, yes, I was hurting in my joints unless I took a ton of supplements to avoid it. Of course, before BTD, I was eating beef and that is the worst thing known to man for me to ingest. It actually nearly paralized me for hours after I ate it.  BTD came just in the nick of time to shed a bright light on that problem!

My skin and hair were getting worse and worse on the BTD and I was blaming that on getting older. But I can't blame that on the diet because of the stuff I was eating that I thought was okay.

As far as I know from the tests they've done on me I didn't/don't have any thyroid problems.

Only seldom have I been bothered with headaches on either diet.

But the best part of all about both diets is that my immune system is excellent. I couldn't ask for more.

On the GTD I am losing weight steadily for which I am very glad. I was NOT losing weight on the BTD unless I left off all fats and sugar - this included limiting certain fruit. You can imagine what that was doing to my skin, etc. Of course, I was taking oil in supplements all that time, but that was not enough oil.

No high blood pressure on either diet.

No cancer.

I hardly ever get hungry on the GTD between meals except that I do have my nuts during that time.

One of the best things is that on the GTD I do not react to things that usually drive me up the wall! Recently I was using a paint primer that has had me aching, weak and crying in minutes in the past. This time I had NO, absolutely NO, reaction to it at all! I had been dreading that job for months because of that primer! I have mentioned how my face used to flame up in homes where they have central H/A that uses gas. No problem now!

I really think that these stomach problems we're having will eventually get better. In fact, I don't doubt it. There is no turning back for me except for the few adjustments that are entirely possible to make to the diet. When we have these stomach crises I have decided that it is not just our stomachs that are in an uproar but our entire system and nothing is making sense to us at that time. It is very hard for some of the other types to understand this - especially those who have been compliant to their respective types for years.

For my part, a crucial value of this board is the extent to which each of us can relate and support one another in our varied trials whether we completely understand them or not.

The flax can be our friend or our enemy. I try to drink a LOT more water than I have before to keep well hydrated. I still have a swallowing problem and it takes quite a bit of effort to get water down sometimes, but I'm hoping that problem will get better too!
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Spring, thanks for your candid response.  I'm going to stick with the Warrior diet because I
think I'm stuck in a cleansing crisis.  I had high cholesterol before the BTD but I wasn't on
it long enough to be tested afterwards. i'm close to your age and I find your progress giving
me hope, even though your gut is often rebelling like mine.  It's a Warrior weakness (digestive
distress) so I'm hoping we'll get over the "hump" in the next 3 months and find this diet more comfortable.

I haven't eaten beef in 30 years.  I did eat organic chicken for many years. I did have a lot of
aches and pains on the BTD, which now that I think about it are improved somewhat on the Warrior diet.  I thought I had fibromyalgia which somehow isn't very obvious to me anymore.

SO, I'm hanging in there. Positive attitude..doing my best!  And hoping for the best!~


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I believe the BTD got rid of my fibromyalgia.  


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I believe the BTD got rid of my fibromyalgia.  


Interesting Ribbit... I'm wondering if fibromyalgia is just a negative genetic "switch" that is turned
on by eating the wrong foods...or having lack of the right ones.  Certainly seems so, which
might interest fibro researchers.  They keep calling it everything from psychological mood
disorders/sleep disorders to it being a form of arthritis.  Wonder if Dr. D has seen fibro
improvement from patients in his clinic following the Genotype diet.  I'd like to understand
exactly why I've had improvement.



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I think mine was directly tied in with nightshades.  So I don't know for sure if it was BTD specifically or just going off nightshades, but I'll attribute it to BTD.  


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of course there s improvement following a lectin free diet!
don t forget the gut is lined with our antigens!
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000072.htm


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