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funkymuse
Monday, March 10, 2008, 9:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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If you all can pick up the magazine Psychology Today March/April issue it has an article entitled "Consuming Passions" which is the latest research on the mind-body problem of appetite.

I will be happy to mail anyone a copy of the article if you send me your address by PM.

Here is the excerpt I found extremely enlightening and true for myself - (my personal comments in italics:

"The dopamine reward system is implicated in compulsive gambling and drug abuse, as well as in eating and sex.  Consequently, Wang and other researchers have begun to suspect that obesity, eating disorders, and even the ordinary urges of appetite might resemble addiction. (DAAAA)  Bart Hoebel's studies of rat junkies show that every drop of sugar syrup they swallow causes a surge in their dopamine levels - a benchmark of desire and a bio-chemical marker of substance abuse."

"Boosting dopamine time after time is what drugs of abuse do," Hoebel says.  That makes you wonder whether food might have addictive properties."  (Well I AIN'T Wondering!)

"Actually, it's the other way around:  Drugs have addictive properties because they tap into appetite's pleasure network.  Food, you might say, is the original addiction.  Edibles high in fat and sugar are known to cause release of the group of feel-good chemicals known as opioids, (oh boy do I know!) which mask pain and promote euphoric sensations. (you bet your bottom dollar!)  The same brain receptors that bind the opioids released by Double Stuf Oreos also respond to morphine and herion, with more pronounced results." (boy am I glad I never got into herion - those poor souls...)

"Food gives you a modest physiological response via those pathways; drugs give you a tremendous response," says psychiatrist Walkter H. Kaye, director of the eating disorders program at the Univeristy of CA, San Diego.  "Drugs hijack the food-reward pathways."

"So it's not surprising that food can become as much of an obsession as controlled substances.  Like human addicts, Hoebel's rat sugar junkies develop hypersensitive dopamine receptors that overreact to a variety of drugs of abuse, and the changes are long term; even after a month of abstinence, the taste of sugar incites the rats to addictive behavior.  Boggiano's Oreo-bingeing rats have long-term changes (and this is the important part) in their brain opioids that somehow make them unusually responsive to highly palatable foods.  Even a single morsel of cookie will trigger a binge, much as a single drink can send an alcoholic on a bender." (one bite and I'm a goner...)

And the article goes on to talk about how calorie restricting diets or food group restricting diets set the brain up for binge behavior.  

I'm so glad that they are finally diving deeply into the food addiction behavior issues.  This article made me realize even more that I cannot, cannot, CANNOT take one bite of sugar or wheat - even after a long term sobriety - without suffering grave consequences.  I've messed my brain over with years and years and years of calorie restricting eating regimes mixed with bingeing behaviors.  It's been since I was a kid!  I don't think my brain chemistry is going to heal overnight!  And after reading this, I'd rather not take the chance.  It's too painful to try and get abstinent again.

Don't forget, if you want a copy of this article, please PM me.


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Spring
Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 1:35am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I especially liked the suggestion to use ground flax to absorb toxins and hurry them along. This all makes perfect sense to me after going through the Candida detox innumerable times during the course of my treatment several years ago.

Sometimes my stomach feels exactly like a bucket of boulders has been thrown in there. And get the gaseous beans in the mix and it is enough to make a person want to take an entire bottle of strong laxative, which I NEVER take!!!!! AND to never touch another bean as long as I live - right now they seem plain nasty to me! Sorry, Lola, but I'm literally hiding from these things. You might know I have a big pot of them in my fridge!!! But they are going in the garbage when I get up enough strength to overcome any guilt feelings.

Yeah, Ribbit, I have been dreaming about a nice, big turkey breast all day today! Didn't get to it tonight, though, but I go to the grocery tomorrow......!!!! Even those turkey burgers that I had grown tired of on the BTD are beginning to entice me! I have been outside nearly all day getting caught up on my yardwork that has been neglected for weeks and weeks, so I just had fish and a big salad tonight. Now, I will have a small bowl of yogurt, soy milk, ground flax and a little hemp cereal with some fruit.
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Chloe
Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 4:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from 2330
I especially liked the suggestion to use ground flax to absorb toxins and hurry them along. This all makes perfect sense to me after going through the Candida detox innumerable times during the course of my treatment several years ago.

Sometimes my stomach feels exactly like a bucket of boulders has been thrown in there. And get the gaseous beans in the mix and it is enough to make a person want to take an entire bottle of strong laxative, which I NEVER take!!!!! AND to never touch another bean as long as I live - right now they seem plain nasty to me! Sorry, Lola, but I'm literally hiding from these things. You might know I have a big pot of them in my fridge!!! But they are going in the garbage when I get up enough strength to overcome any guilt feelings.

Yeah, Ribbit, I have been dreaming about a nice, big turkey breast all day today! Didn't get to it tonight, though, but I go to the grocery tomorrow......!!!! Even those turkey burgers that I had grown tired of on the BTD are beginning to entice me! I have been outside nearly all day getting caught up on my yardwork that has been neglected for weeks and weeks, so I just had fish and a big salad tonight. Now, I will have a small bowl of yogurt, soy milk, ground flax and a little hemp cereal with some fruit.


Spring, I was reading all the Warrior information again today in the Genotype Diet book and
it specifically says that one of our genetic weaknesses is digestive complaints.  I have had
more digestive complaints on the Warrior diet than I ever did on the Blood type diet for A.  I have to  assume it's going to get better for us. I agree that the gaseous beans are simply disgusting to me this week too. I keep dreaming about turkey and more delicate flavored foods without all that fiber, yet it's fiber that I need to keep things moving.  Ground flax seeds might be the way to go.  Everything I've read about upping fiber like flax seed is that we
need to be drinking extra fluids to make sure we don't create a clump of fiber in our colons and maybe another good idea would be to divide up the flax dose up and take it a few times during the day rather than in one serving.  Dr.D speaks about lignans (in flax seeds) being necessary for Warriors and mentioned sesame seeds,(I guess they're high in lignans as
well)  yet I believe they have a black dot and we can't have them yet.  But we can and should
have flax.  Today I'm doing a flax experiment. I put flax oil in a smoothie and will try to
incorprate some ground flax seeds into my diet.... Will report back.



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Chloe
Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 5:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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This post might belong in another thread but I'm addressing this to Spring who seems to have
the same perpetual digestive upheaval that I keep having on the Warrior diet.

I was noticing that the BTD addresses irritable bowel problems.  Could it be that you and I
would be feeling better on the type A diet instead?  Spring, do you think you've got irritable
bowel problems or food allergies?

I want to reach the 3 month mark before I assess my overall progress on the Warrior diet.
But I just wonder if the type A diet wasn't better suited for me.   When I see that "hunger"
is a strong Warrior trait, I realize I'm never really hungry.  And rarely craving sweets. And
don't have any diabetes in my family.  But I do have allergies, arthritis, skin conditions
and probably poor immune function.  I think I've already answered my own concerns.

Spring, how did you do on the type A diet?  Digestive problems?  I rarely had any.


"BTD" Conditions
0.80 Food allergies
0.80 Blood disorder
0.35 Arthritis
0.20 Skin condition
0.20 Irritable bowel
0.20 Thyroid condition
0.20 Headache
0.20 Poor immune function

"GTD" Conditions
1.25 Trying to lose weight
0.20 Diabetes
0.20 Dementia
0.20 Cancer
0.20 Hypertension
0.35 Hungry
0.35 Aging
0.20 Chemical sensitivities



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Mayflowers
Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 5:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I can't even tolerate flax. It makes me nauseous.  So Chloe, you haven't handled your weight on the BTD?

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Spring
Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 6:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Chloe
This post might belong in another thread but I'm addressing this to Spring who seems to have
the same perpetual digestive upheaval that I keep having on the Warrior diet.

I was noticing that the BTD addresses irritable bowel problems.  Could it be that you and I
would be feeling better on the type A diet instead?  Spring, do you think you've got irritable
bowel problems or food allergies?

I want to reach the 3 month mark before I assess my overall progress on the Warrior diet.
But I just wonder if the type A diet wasn't better suited for me.   When I see that "hunger"
is a strong Warrior trait, I realize I'm never really hungry.  And rarely craving sweets. And
don't have any diabetes in my family.  But I do have allergies, arthritis, skin conditions
and probably poor immune function.  I think I've already answered my own concerns.

Spring, how did you do on the type A diet?  Digestive problems?  I rarely had any.


"BTD" Conditions
0.80 Food allergies
0.80 Blood disorder
0.35 Arthritis
0.20 Skin condition
0.20 Irritable bowel
0.20 Thyroid condition
0.20 Headache
0.20 Poor immune function

"GTD" Conditions
1.25 Trying to lose weight
0.20 Diabetes
0.20 Dementia
0.20 Cancer
0.20 Hypertension
0.35 Hungry
0.35 Aging
0.20 Chemical sensitivities



Cloe, I was getting sick of the Type-A diet. I was so tired of chicken it was almost as bad as the way I feel about beans! Having said that, though, and coming on with a big BUT I found after I started the GTD and getting out from under the mental fog I was in, I realized that I had been eating yogurt that was NOT cultured after I called the company and asked if they actually cultured their milk, and they said no!!!!! All that money for $.99 yogurt down the drain for YEARS, and no telling how many problems it was causing me. Also, corn was giving me fits and I was blaming the problem on other things because my stomach didn't actually hurt when I ate it. The pain always came later when I ate something else.

Also, my cholesterol was getting higher and higher on the BTD and I was doing everything I knew to do to bring it down. And, yes, I was hurting in my joints unless I took a ton of supplements to avoid it. Of course, before BTD, I was eating beef and that is the worst thing known to man for me to ingest. It actually nearly paralized me for hours after I ate it.  BTD came just in the nick of time to shed a bright light on that problem!

My skin and hair were getting worse and worse on the BTD and I was blaming that on getting older. But I can't blame that on the diet because of the stuff I was eating that I thought was okay.

As far as I know from the tests they've done on me I didn't/don't have any thyroid problems.

Only seldom have I been bothered with headaches on either diet.

But the best part of all about both diets is that my immune system is excellent. I couldn't ask for more.

On the GTD I am losing weight steadily for which I am very glad. I was NOT losing weight on the BTD unless I left off all fats and sugar - this included limiting certain fruit. You can imagine what that was doing to my skin, etc. Of course, I was taking oil in supplements all that time, but that was not enough oil.

No high blood pressure on either diet.

No cancer.

I hardly ever get hungry on the GTD between meals except that I do have my nuts during that time.

One of the best things is that on the GTD I do not react to things that usually drive me up the wall! Recently I was using a paint primer that has had me aching, weak and crying in minutes in the past. This time I had NO, absolutely NO, reaction to it at all! I had been dreading that job for months because of that primer! I have mentioned how my face used to flame up in homes where they have central H/A that uses gas. No problem now!

I really think that these stomach problems we're having will eventually get better. In fact, I don't doubt it. There is no turning back for me except for the few adjustments that are entirely possible to make to the diet. When we have these stomach crises I have decided that it is not just our stomachs that are in an uproar but our entire system and nothing is making sense to us at that time. It is very hard for some of the other types to understand this - especially those who have been compliant to their respective types for years.

For my part, a crucial value of this board is the extent to which each of us can relate and support one another in our varied trials whether we completely understand them or not.

The flax can be our friend or our enemy. I try to drink a LOT more water than I have before to keep well hydrated. I still have a swallowing problem and it takes quite a bit of effort to get water down sometimes, but I'm hoping that problem will get better too!
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Chloe
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Spring, thanks for your candid response.  I'm going to stick with the Warrior diet because I
think I'm stuck in a cleansing crisis.  I had high cholesterol before the BTD but I wasn't on
it long enough to be tested afterwards. i'm close to your age and I find your progress giving
me hope, even though your gut is often rebelling like mine.  It's a Warrior weakness (digestive
distress) so I'm hoping we'll get over the "hump" in the next 3 months and find this diet more comfortable.

I haven't eaten beef in 30 years.  I did eat organic chicken for many years. I did have a lot of
aches and pains on the BTD, which now that I think about it are improved somewhat on the Warrior diet.  I thought I had fibromyalgia which somehow isn't very obvious to me anymore.

SO, I'm hanging in there. Positive attitude..doing my best!  And hoping for the best!~


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I believe the BTD got rid of my fibromyalgia.  


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

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I believe the BTD got rid of my fibromyalgia.  


Interesting Ribbit... I'm wondering if fibromyalgia is just a negative genetic "switch" that is turned
on by eating the wrong foods...or having lack of the right ones.  Certainly seems so, which
might interest fibro researchers.  They keep calling it everything from psychological mood
disorders/sleep disorders to it being a form of arthritis.  Wonder if Dr. D has seen fibro
improvement from patients in his clinic following the Genotype diet.  I'd like to understand
exactly why I've had improvement.



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I think mine was directly tied in with nightshades.  So I don't know for sure if it was BTD specifically or just going off nightshades, but I'll attribute it to BTD.  


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of course there s improvement following a lectin free diet!
don t forget the gut is lined with our antigens!
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000072.htm


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