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funkymuse
Thursday, February 21, 2008, 1:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Some vegies in my area I cannot obtain organically.  So I have to eat them in the  non-organic form.  I do the best I can.. but for instance..

Rhutabagas, Turnips, Sweet Pototaes - I cannot get those organically.  I'm praying since they are root vegies, I'll be ok.  Anybody?

And talk about high prices!  I have been paying $2.99 for a small bunch of organic swiss chard in these winter months!  And you know how that cooks down to nothing!  

BUT bananas I won't pay the organic price for.  I read one should wash the skin of the banana (organic or non); because of tranferring bateria, etc. to your hands and then when you peel the banana and eat it, you get it on the banana!  

As far as fish, I'm lucky to live in  WA on the Sound.  Wild Salmon and other fish is all over.  Still not cheap, but if one shops around, you can find it.  We got a great buy at Safeway one day.  BUT if you go to Whole Foods here in WA they still jack the price!  
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I am also interested to know if flash freezing is more harmful to meat/fish than regular freezing I do in my own freezer.

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putrescine and cadaverine
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Have people become so jaded that nothing fazes them anymore?  I think you can say that I am most certainly not in that number.


Hmmm, maybe Spring is a HSP too, as well as a nonnie!

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China doesn't have those rules and regs to contend with and they pay their workers substantially less . . . and so their fish is cheaper.

/hijack


I'm all for free trade, but as gross as some of OUR food processing is, if theirs is even worse...
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I noticed on the bag after I ate the cod that made me sick that it was a Product of China. They've done a pretty good job of wiping out a good number of our pets - are they going to do the same to some of us? I certainly don't mind paying more for something that is actually fit for human consumption.

The organics in produce departments at the local groceries here leave a lot to be desired. I'm sure this stuff was fine when it came out of the ground or off the vine, but at least half of it is usually ready to throw out by the time I see it. The problem, of course, is there aren't enough people buying it. The distributors send 'way too much and the grocery winds up taking the loss. And we lose too. I asked one produce guy at a large grocery why they didn't carry kale anymore. He said they had to buy such a large amount most of it would spoil before it was sold. One thing for sure, there is plenty of stupidity - a major overgrowth! In their greed, the suppliers think they can force the grocery to do what they want, but they are chopping off their own noses in the process. There had never been a shortage of decent kale before when the groceries could order what they knew from past experience would sell in good time.
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Yeah, I have had some cod that tasted bad & it was from China. So, if you find fish at only $3-4/#, check the label!!
It might have been raised in contaminated waters by an enemy!!


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Trader Joe's in our area has issued a statement that for the time being they are no longer carrying any products from China in their store because of huge customer outcry.

It's one thing to read labels on packages, but when you buy something like fish and it's not
showing country of origin, you might want to rethink your purchase. I now feel safer shopping
in Trader Joe's.

As for eating fish in a restaurant, it's anyones guess.

BUT..

Wendy's had an advertisement on TV yesterday that showed a fish sandwich which was cod.
They explained where the cod came from which made it sound safe.  Still, what did they do to
the fish?  They fried it and put it on a white bread bun.

I order my fish from Vital Choices.  I feel it's safe.  http://www.vitalchoice.com




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Quoted from Chloe
Trader Joe's in our area has issued a statement that for the time being they are no longer carrying any products from China in their store because of huge customer outcry.

It's one thing to read labels on packages, but when you buy something like fish and it's not
showing country of origin, you might want to rethink your purchase. I now feel safer shopping
in Trader Joe's.

As for eating fish in a restaurant, it's anyones guess.

BUT..

Wendy's had an advertisement on TV yesterday that showed a fish sandwich which was cod.
They explained where the cod came from which made it sound safe.  Still, what did they do to
the fish?  They fried it and put it on a white bread bun.

I order my fish from Vital Choices.  I feel it's safe.  http://www.vitalchoice.com




I think someone would have to be really laid back about what they put in their mouths if they considered this sandwich from Windy's anything close to nutritional! We were in a rush last night and Windy's was handy so I decided to try this sandwich. I only ate the fillet - no tartar sauce, no bun. My stomach was highly insulted, to say the least. The grease and breading made up more than half of the fillet. I'm pretty sure I would have been better off eating their grilled chicken!   I had to eat again when I got home.
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I order my fish from Vital Choices.  I feel it's safe.  http://www.vitalchoice.com


Cloe, I was just looking at their site. Which are your favorites? I like the idea of having some of these pouches on hand. Have you tried them? I have used other brands, but I really like the looks of this site. It is so neat to have a pouch in your purse to take into a nice, but questionable restaurant. I order a salad or other veggies and put the salmon on top. Really takes the worry out of going to a place you aren't familiar with. Or even to a pot luck or a friend's house or visiting relatives.......
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Cloe, I was just looking at their site. Which are your favorites? I like the idea of having some of these pouches on hand. Have you tried them? I have used other brands, but I really like the looks of this site. It is so neat to have a pouch in your purse to take into a nice, but questionable restaurant. I order a salad or other veggies and put the salmon on top. Really takes the worry out of going to a place you aren't familiar with. Or even to a pot luck or a friend's house or visiting relatives.......


I use their individual canned salmon because the cans have pop top lids which is why I never
bought salmon in pouches.  I buy my dog the dried salmon dog treats and she loves them.
I would love to try the halibut and tuna at some point.  I take their fish oil and give it to my
husband and dog as well.



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I can't worry about frozen fish where I live either, unless I want fish that isn't fresh, or smells too fishy, frozen and canned are all there is.  It's the best fish I can get, where I am.

I just keep up the green tea, walnuts, etc. to counteract it (it's not like a lectin that does damage even in small amounts, it can be balanced out from what I understand)

Here most of the unfrozen fish is actually thawed fish, so I buy it frozen and take care of the thawing on my own terms.  


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Spring
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I'm not worrying about it as much, either, since I have learned a whole lot more than I knew a few weeks ago! No more fish from China, for one thing! (Actually, I wouldn't have bought it the first time, but I didn't know we were even importing fish from China, of all places!) Turmeric and\or goldenseal will definitely be handy when I eat frozen fish and canned beans from now on. I WILL be buying more bagged dried beans and lentils. Of course, I will still be using green tea, walnuts, etc., for the polyamine problem and numerous other benefits that they have for us.

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