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meribelle
Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 12:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Fellow Gatherers, I need your help.  I love fragrances, but most of them give me a headache.  Can you name any in the moderate price range, say $50.00 and below that won't kill my head.  Actually, I think $50 is a lot of money, but it would be worth it if I could find one that worked.  I look forward to your input.



Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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essential oils are a better way to go.....also, recently I bought an inexpensive natural perfume by Pacifica called "mediterranean fig" from Whole Foods. I adore it's fragrance.
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I always did better with the fragrance lotions, rather than the liquid perfumes.  As long as your skin isn't sensitive to them, they may work better for you.

I gave up on them too after a while.  My husband gave me some Kiehl's fragrances in little tiny jars (citrus and vanilla), they look and feel like lip balm, but are perfume.  I use those from time to time.


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Another problem is that nothing really lasts on me and also no one ever says,  "Oh that smells good.  What are you wearing?"  Maybe that is because I am fearful of putting too much of whatever it is and ending up with a headache.  

Some people wear really powerful scents that can knock me over.  Yesterday in the hotel there was a woman with toooooo strong of a fragrance.  It lingered forever in the hotel hallway!


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Someone said there are more synthetics. So possibly there are more reactions. Since my mid-50s I cough a lot when I am exposed to certain perfumes. It can be quite embarrassing at work waiting on a customer with fragrance!
But the other day, I was in Whole Foods, & there were several kinds of smells in the air(certainly all were natural!). But I started coughing again. Maybe it is a menopause thing. Maybe it is actually the body being more sensitive to things around me in a good way. Maybe it is the combination of so many things in the air.  Who knows? I like fragrances, but I can't tolerate so many of them!  
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Jovan Musk oil.  ( I think it was under $10.00)  works for me.  


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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'Tressor' from Lancome......is the only one I can tolerate.



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Mercedes
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I'd try to find an Avalla consultant in your area (there has to be one kind near seeing as HQ is in Houston *I think*). Because theirs are botanically sourced, they may be easier on you. They have one called "Viola" that I just LOVE, and I'm not sure if they still carry Georgie on Ice- but that was without a doubt my fave.

Avalla is a distributor of Nutri-Metics, and it's not sold in stores. (Myavalla.com)
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Thanks for all the ideas.  I went on line, but could not find a place to order from Whole Foods online.  Maybe I am just challenged this early in the morning!  I will try later.  Any more suggestions will be appreciated.  

Aren't gatherers more sensitive to fragrances?????


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Hi, the only one that lasts on my skin and smells attractive on me, rather than like soap lol, is Chantal Thomass, it's around 20 a bottle for the edt, slightly more for the edp and you can get a parfum extract which is around 50 but lasts for hours at a consistent level of fragrance.  I don't get any bad reactions to this one and I just love it.

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I buy essential oils from Mountain Rose Herbs. You can buy single fragrance oils or one of their blends. The oils last a good long time and can be used alone or put into lotions, cocoa, shea or mango butter, etc. You can check out their website at http://www.mountainroseherbs.com

Gatherers might be more sensitive to perfumes and fragrances because they tend to have trouble with estrogen dominance if they are overweight. I've also noticed more problems with strong perfumes now that I'm menopausal. They make me react the same way I do to pollens or mold--sneezing, congestion and watery eyes, though it isn't as severe a reaction.


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I've been using musk oil by Coty for years - very inexpensive (in the $10 range) and I've received many complements over the years about how good the fragrance is on me. The interesting thing is I can barely detect that I'm even wearing fragrance. No doubt this is an individual thing - you may have to experiment.


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This Nomad is also quite sensitive to fragrances.  I try to avoid even walking through the makeup and perfume section of a store.  Strong fragrances often burn my nose and eyes and make me cough, and I'm sure it's nothing to do with menopause or estrogen dominance!   It's a rare cologne that I can stand to wear.  The only one I own is called Avatar, but that's probably not of much interest to you unless you are a guy too.
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If you find a blend you like at Whole Foods (or if you experiment and make your own), you can put them into a carrier oil and just rub the oil on you.  The thing about natural fragrances, however, is they just don't last.  They're not meant to.  Natural things break down and "return to dust from whence they came."  They biodegrade and decompose.  It's the synthetic stuff that lasts.  I make a blend for a friend of mine who's very sensitive, but she found she sneezes around natural lavender essential oil too.  So I make her one lavender-free. Mine is the only thing she's found that she can wear.  I made her up 4 or 5 different blends to try and she picked her favorite.  

I can post a few ideas here if anybody's interested.  They're really easy to make once you have the oils.  Again, it's easiest to just buy a pre-mixed fragrance.  Go spend a few minutes in the essential oil section of WF and see what you like.  

BTW, you need to look for "essential oil," not "fragrance oil."  Fragrance oil is synthetic.  It won't be as bad (they say) as the terrible chemicals in regular perfume, but some people still have reactions to them.

BTW again, use your brain when trying to figure out if something is natural or not.  Chamomile, roses, almonds and lavender, etc. have natural oil that can be extracted and used.  Cucumbers do not.  So if you find something that says "Natural Cucumber fragrance," you can be sure it's not.  A lot of the fruity fragrances are synthetic.  Fruits don't have oils you can extract.  They have to come up with a chemical combination that smells enough like the real thing to sell.  The plant parts like bark, leaves, seeds and flowers have oils which can be extracted, and those are used in natural essential oils.


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This morning before work I bought some Lancome Tresor at Walgreens.  I wore it all day and did not get a headache!!!  Thanks, Lola.  Now we smell alike!!!


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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meribelle
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I would love any information on essential oils.  I am a great believer in them, and know that they can cure all kinds of conditions!  But I got frustrated with them because they did not last long.  Now I know why.  Thanks, Ribbit.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I do not like strong perfumes, give me a headache, so I don't wear them (also I really don't like a lot of the smells). However, I have been using pure lavender oil as a deodarant (neat - also seems to keep flies away, and I had less bites last summer) and occasionally people have commented I smell nice,even though I can't smell it myself!


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Quoted from meribelle
Thanks for all the ideas.  I went on line, but could not find a place to order from Whole Foods online.  Maybe I am just challenged this early in the morning!  I will try later.  Any more suggestions will be appreciated.  


I don't think that you can order perfumes online from Whole Foods, but you can order direct from Pacifica here:
http://www.pacificacandles.com/perfume.asp
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Quoted from meribelle
I would love any information on essential oils.  I am a great believer in them, and know that they can cure all kinds of conditions!  But I got frustrated with them because they did not last long.  Now I know why.  Thanks, Ribbit.


I'd like to suggest the book titled AROMATHERAPY A complete Guide to the Healing Art by Kathi Keville & Mindy Green

It was used as the text in my beginners aromatherapy class and covers lots of topics, charts, and stuff.

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You can use pure lavender oil on your skin without mixing it with a carrier oil?

I just got over mastitis (again) and one of the suggestions I ran across was to use lavender oil, but I mixed it with castor oil.  It would be great to use it by itself as a deodorant!


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Yes, lavender essential oil is one you may safely apply to the skin directly as is, provided the manufacturer is reliable, like Primavera (German), Absolute Aromas (English) etc. It works as a disinfectant, and the fragrance is gorgeous.


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Me too, I can stand very few fragrances, and usually I prefer not to wear any. The only 'heavy' fragrance I sometimes like to use is Caleche by Hermes. I also like colognes by Crabtree and Evelyn (Lily of the Valley, Vetiver), good old 4711 and of course Yardley lavender.



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Me too, I can stand very few fragrances, and usually I prefer not to wear any. The only 'heavy' fragrance I sometimes like to use is Caleche by Hermes. I also like colognes by Crabtree and Evelyn (Lily of the Valley, Vetiver), good old 4711 and of course Yardley lavender.



I was looking for Yadley products here in my town and never found them.  Guess I did not look in the right places.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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meribelle,
that s good to hear!!


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Meribelle,
Years ago there were rumors that both Yardley and 4711 stopped manufacturing. I think Yardley went through some changes, but they exist and here the website(the page for U.S.):
http://shop1.mailordercentral.com/yardleylondon/products.asp?dept=12

4711 are still alive as well
http://www.4711.com/english/index.php#


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