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beetnik
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Luckily my Nomad husband has always loathed tomatoes (guess he has smart genes), so I'm used to cooking without them.     I even make chili without tomatoes...I use dried chile peppers instead, Texas Red style (although now I'm not sure if these are legal or not...?).
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whatareyagonnado?

'yagonna' enjoy every bite of your compliant CC and other!
I am trying to master my paneer home making ability for now, and know I will not be stumbling into any kind of avoid free diamond cheese species down here in the 3rd world!!


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Luckily my Nomad husband has always loathed tomatoes (guess he has smart genes), so I'm used to cooking without them.     I even make chili without tomatoes...I use dried chile peppers instead, Texas Red style (although now I'm not sure if these are legal or not...?).


This sounds like a great recipe Beetnik!  Can I have it?  I love chili, but figured it would no longer be good without the tomatoes.


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I feel so bad for Nomads on the tomato front.  I use them in everything, as tomato marinara seems to be just the ticket in basically everything.  Sarah had a recipe at one point for a faux tomato paste and it was something like ...oh, drat, I'll have to find it for you.  But everyone who tried it raved about it.  I can't remember what all was in it, but I remember it was very clever and sounded like it really would be a good substitute.  I will find it at some point and let you know.


Oh, maybe you could find that recipe somewhere?  I can't tell you how much I'd use tomatoes.  They always made every meal taste better.  I always had a few cans in the pantry to add to whatever I was making.  At least I'm not as bad as my father, he was the "ketchup on corn flakes" type of person.  

Now that I've been on the diet (at a fairly compliant level  ) I am getting much more used to it and liking it a bit more.  It all takes time but it's getting easier.


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I'm not sure if these are legal or not...?)

if those are not in your toxins list, then you re safe!


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TTAs (toxins to avoid--that is my new acronym for them.

brilliant!!


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This sounds like a great recipe Beetnik!  Can I have it?  I love chili, but figured it would no longer be good without the tomatoes.


This is the original recipe:
http://www.g6csy.net/chile/recipes/Texas%20Red%20Chili%20con%20Carne%202.txt

It does just fine without the masa harina (I never had it around so I never used it and my chili was always yummy).  I always just used the recipe as a rough guide; it's very forgiving.  You can use just about any kind of dried chili or any kind of meat.  And of course the bacon fat is out for everyone here, but any fat will do really.
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Lola, when it says cultured skim milk, milk, etc., that means  there is plain milk in the cottage cheese. This is the reason so many people have problems with purchased cottage cheese. It is like poison to us.

I do not purchase any dairy because of the avoids used during the process......but now that I switched to GTD I am making my own paneer from scratch using organic cow s milk and am doing great with that......happy the home made process is so easy!

you might want to give it a try if it s a diamond in your list, too.


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Quoted from Lola

I do not purchase any dairy because of the avoids used during the process......but now that I switched to GTD I am making my own paneer from scratch using organic cow s milk and am doing great with that......happy the home made process is so easy!

you might want to give it a try if it s a diamond in your list, too.


I am really anxious to try the farmer's cheese from Recipe Central - but that won't be until after next Wednesday! Then you can tell me the tricks of making paneer that you have learned!   I LOVE cheese!
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Off-topic here for a moment:

I've made my own paneer with lemon juice or apple cider vinegar and prefer the lemon juice. It has a cleaner taste to me--you can really taste the vinegar, and while it isn't unpleasant, I don't really want that taste to come out in my cheese. So for me, the acid to add is lemon juice.

Btw, an old Pennsylvania Dutch tradition combines cottage cheese and apple butter. I have tried this and while it sounds weird, it is actually very tasty! I've also tried it with peach and pumpkin butter and it was delicious! A little goes a long way but it makes a very nice light breakfast or lunch, or a mid-morning snack. It's also good as a side dish for turkey or lamb sausage or cutlets.

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Brig,
That sounds good to me. I like to mix cottage cheese with salsa too.  It almosts taste like shrimp.  I mix it with cranberry pepper preserves too.
I've been buying the Friendship cottage cheese and I must admit to still eating the goat cheeses.  
I've never had paneer. What does it taste like?
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I was doing ok on the Warrior diet and then I decided to try the Teacher diet to see if I felt any different.  I felt different all right .  I caught the stomach virus.


Maybe that's an indication that I should follow the Warrior diet..
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Oh, maybe you could find that recipe somewhere?  I can't tell you how much I'd use tomatoes.  They always made every meal taste better.

Exactly, and they'd be great for our respective prostates, too, if we had any.  I tried to find Sarah's post containing her tomato recipe on another board, but I forgot my password (I'm not even sure I had my log-in moniker correct, in point of fact!) and it wouldn't let me search a member's posts without it, dang it.  So then I searched all the posts on the site using keywords which just ended up getting me all sad about Sarah no longer being with us and did NOT net me her faux tomato sauce recipe.  Anyway, I'm now on a mission to find it for you, but it may take me a while.  I'm thinking she might have posted it somewhere on THIS site, but I'm going to have to hunt for it.  Just know that I am on the case.  btw, I think it is similar to, if not the exact actual recipe, as the one Brig linked!  However, they have edited all the recipes so much that I can't tell if that was originally posted by Sarah or what.  But I think hers definitely did have to do with carrots and beets, that sounds soooooo familiar!  So give that one a try because I think that Brig might just have, to quote John McLaughlin:  "lurched uncontrollably into the truth!"


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brilliant!!

  Tank U!  Anything to save a few keystrokes!



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Beetnik, that chili recipe sounds fabulous!  I would definitely leave out the masa harina/hominy and change out the bacon drippings for another fat, as you suggest.  That really sounds good, yummmmmm!


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Thanks Brig!  I just printed it out.  I am not sure about the beets but I think everything else is a superfood for a Nomad!  Perhaps some roasted red peppers can take their place.


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Thank you Lola!  I am printing that one out too!


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This is the original recipe:
http://www.g6csy.net/chile/recipes/Texas%20Red%20Chili%20con%20Carne%202.txt

It does just fine without the masa harina (I never had it around so I never used it and my chili was always yummy).  I always just used the recipe as a rough guide; it's very forgiving.  You can use just about any kind of dried chili or any kind of meat.  And of course the bacon fat is out for everyone here, but any fat will do really.


Thank you Beetnik!  I've never heard of masa harina, so I'm glad it can be left out!  These are some great recipes (yours and the no tomato sauces) that both my husband and I can use.  I believe tomatoes are now a black dot avoid for him (hunter) so he too wants to avoid them.  Especially since he's had GERD issues in the past.

Thanks again to all for their wonderful recipes!


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Btw, an old Pennsylvania Dutch tradition combines cottage cheese and apple butter. I have tried this and while it sounds weird, it is actually very tasty!

/thread hijack


Wow, that brings back memories.  I used to eat cottage cheese and apple butter sandwiches all the time!  Sounds gross but it really was good.  Of course, it was on some type of wheat bread!  Since my mother is from PA, I wonder if that's where I picked up that combo from....


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hey, mayflowers....hope you are better! don't know if the teacher diet is to blame......
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My dad's side of the family is Pennsylvania Dutch from way, way back.  He grew up in Lititz, PA.  Anyway, he introduced me to all sorts of strange, fascinating Pennsylvania-Dutch delicacies, like red beet eggs.  He was also into some branded items that seemed to be uniquely Pennsylvania-Dutch, such as birch beer, Snyder's pretzels, and Gibbles potato chips (slogan:  "I nibbled with Gibbles").

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Harmonykitty (gosh, it is so weird calling you that ever since I named my then-new kitten Harmony two years ago!  I feel like I'm talking to my cat **  ...and, of course, Harmony was your kitty's name, too, so it must be weird for you, too...and/or a nice reminder of her), I really fought the good fight trying to find Sarah's faux tomato sauce recipe, but I have to wave the white flag now.  The more I think about it, though, the more I'm sure that my little Briggyboo did, in fact, find it, because the carrots and beets really sound familiar.  I remember thinking when I first saw Sarah's recipe that it was brilliant, very creative substitutions for tomato.  And I could swear that it was indeed carrots and beets, in fact, I'm positive, the more I think about it.  Sarah was so creative and able in finding/coming up with compliant alternatives to verboten foods/recipes.  It's funny, the timing of this faux tomato sauce being discussed just around the 3-year anniversary of her passing.  Somehow, I think she would be very pleased that her recipes and ideas are still helping more people to eat right for their types, enjoy compliance, and be healthy.



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Another thread hijack:

HK, using roasted red peppers in place of the beets is a good experiment and I bet it will taste yummy!

If you are of a mind to do so, try a 50/50 blend of quinoa/millet flour in place of the masa harina. I've found that quinoa/millet makes a very tasty substitute for cornmeal and limed corn flour.

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he introduced me to all sorts of strange, fascinating Pennsylvania-Dutch delicacies, like red beet eggs.  He was also into some branded items that seemed to be uniquely Pennsylvania-Dutch, such as birch beer, Snyder's pretzels, and Gibbles potato chips (slogan:  "I nibbled with Gibbles").


Twinnie, you can get beet-juice pickled eggs at just about any deli here. I'm not that fond of them, but the homemade kind are okay. As for birch beer, the formula has been messed with so now it has HFCS in it , but if you go to events like the Kutztown Folk Festival in the summer you can often get homemade birch beer, and it's delicious!

Cherry wishniak (cherry soda) has also been adulterated with HFCS, much to my disgust. Wishniak is delicious when made properly--it's like sparkling all-cherry cider, just fantastic.

As for Snyder's pretzels and Gibbles potato chips, all I can say is, they are delicious as a special holiday treat once a year or so.

The No Tomato Tomato Sauce was posted originally to Typebase by Jill, but she could have received the recipe from Sarah. Any road, it's truly delicious--and I do not like beets at all!    

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