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Chloe
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Is the Genotype Diet and the related supplements enough to clear the white lines on fingerprints or must I do additional detoxifying protocols?


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I can't speak to whether there are additional things you can do to calm the inflammation/repair the deterioration in your gut brought on by gluten but from what I remember in the book, your gut will start healing long before you see the white lines go away so I wouldn't use that as a true gauge of your progress--you'd probably think it was hopeless!


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There may be some useful info here: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-encloplib/m-1187636716/ and elswhere on the Encyclopedia board.
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Quoted from Lloyd
There may be some useful info here: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-encloplib/m-1187636716/ and elswhere on the Encyclopedia board.


Thanks Lloyd

As far as I can tell, this link is explaining how to get a good fingerprint..  Sorry to be such a
pain, but my issue isn't about getting a good fingerprint, but what to do for the
gut, other than the GTD.

Since I'm now following the GTD for Warrior, would I need to go
to the detox protocol in the BT encyclopedia and follow that protocol for my blood type?

This is where I'm confused.  I'm not following the BTD anymore.  How useful are the protocols
designed for blood type A when I'm no longer doing a diet for my blood type?



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Quoted from Chloe


Thanks Lloyd

As far as I can tell, this link is explaining how to get a good fingerprint..  Sorry to be such a
pain, but my issue isn't about getting a good fingerprint, but what to do for the
gut, other than the GTD.

Since I'm now following the GTD for Warrior, would I need to go
to the detox protocol in the BT encyclopedia and follow that protocol for my blood type?

This is where I'm confused.  I'm not following the BTD anymore.  How useful are the protocols
designed for blood type A when I'm no longer doing a diet for my blood type?



Actually, the link discusses treatment if you follow it down.

You are still a type A, no matter what your genotype, so they are still useful.
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Chloe,  I am a type A with white lines on my fingerprints. I am  gluten free and following the Warrior diet.   So I am not eating barley or anything else with gluten on the list even though they are diamond foods. Now I am not sure that being gluten free is necessary but I am hoping to ask Peter at a lecture I am going to by him on Friday. I am eating quiona and rice. I am eating mostly diamond and super foods. I know that it will take time up to two years for the lines to disappear.

I have been looking at the white lines on other peoples fingers, not an easy task. I have a  friend BT O at work who has them way worse then me. She has all sorts of gut issues and was recommended to have surgery. When I told her that she was gluten intolerant she was shocked. Not sure that she will do anything about it.
I actually thought she was gluten intolerant because her hair is thinning. That was my first clue that something was wrong.

I also have a yellow/orange undertone to my skin. I have had this my whole life. I am also thinking that the diet may change my skin tone.  This is just speculation.

What foods are you chosing from the Warrior diet list?

  


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I am not a warrior, but I have white lines and I have been gluten free since last March.

I found that not eating in restaurants, and avoiding sugar have really made my progress improve (BTD since last September). It's just too much of a risk eating out, and I don't like making a fuss. I also don't drink at all- bartenders don't wash their hands enough, plus it's high in sugar.

My white lines haven't gone away yet, but I am feeling better all the time. A guy that I work with has terrible digestive issues- he has to get sent home all the time. I looked at his fingertips the other day and it looked like he had less lines than me, but the ones he did have were really deep.

The problem with many people is that they don't want to make a change. I had even stopped eating meat for a while because I was desperate to figure out what was wrong with me. My doctor even said to me "You know you'll have to eat gluten free..." as if he thought I couldn't do it. I think alot of doctors don't believe that any of us would rather give up wheat than be sick. I also don't eat spelt, kamut, barley or oats. You can find some good lists online of foods that tend to be contaminated with gluten.

New Year's eve was the worst, because even though I've stopped drinking people kept trying to kiss me (on the cheek) and I was afraid they might have had beer!

I occasionally use internal quality clay (edible clay) for cleansing, and I am planning to bring some with me for when I travel (and Deflect sounds good too). I recommended it to a friend of mine recently when he said he thought he had food poisoning and he said it made him feel better. It might not work as well in the case of wheat ingestion, because the antibodies tend to provoke an inflammatory reaction which can last for weeks, but clay could still help if you use it right away.
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Chloe,  I am a type A with white lines on my fingerprints. I am  gluten free and following the Warrior diet.   So I am not eating barley or anything else with gluten on the list even though they are diamond foods. Now I am not sure that being gluten free is necessary but I am hoping to ask Peter at a lecture I am going to by him on Friday. I am eating quiona and rice. I am eating mostly diamond and super foods. I know that it will take time up to two years for the lines to disappear.

I have been looking at the white lines on other peoples fingers, not an easy task. I have a  friend BT O at work who has them way worse then me. She has all sorts of gut issues and was recommended to have surgery. When I told her that she was gluten intolerant she was shocked. Not sure that she will do anything about it.
I actually thought she was gluten intolerant because her hair is thinning. That was my first clue that something was wrong.

I also have a yellow/orange undertone to my skin. I have had this my whole life. I am also thinking that the diet may change my skin tone.  This is just speculation.

What foods are you chosing from the Warrior diet list?

  


My Warrior foods are fish, beans, vegetables, some fruit, green tea and approved oils/fats and nuts.  I use miso to make soup and eat cultured soy products like tempeh.  Rice protein
powder and berries for smoothies in the morning.

I don't drink either so I take resveratrol capsules..  I was diagnosed with gluten intolerance a few years ago and haven't touched a speck of gluten in over 15 months.  I don't know if
my white lines have changed since I gave up gluten because I didn't do fingerprinting until
I started the Warrior diet.

I've started taking HCL and digestive enzymes with all meals and drinking green drinks every day to try and stay alkalized.  Bacteria and yeast thrive in an acidic body, I've read.  I don't drink coffee and I eat chocolate rarely as the sugar is a problem.  As for grains, I eat amaranth, brown rice and quinoa but I have to be careful not to combine them with fish.  Allergic to eggs and dairy, it's difficult to find a varied amount of foods.  I never liked meat
so no matter what diet I followed, the variety of Warrior food is about as good as anything
else, given the allergic or gluten foods I have to avoid.

Many days I'm more of a "grazer" than a meal eater and I notice that frequent small meals
are more digestible.

I do fine in restaurants as I can always order a salad, fish and vegetables, providing I know
the restaurant is health conscious and foods are unprocessed.  I have restaurants in my
area that actually use organic produce and serve wild fish.

What I've noticed being off gluten is that my fingernails are stronger. They used to constantly
peel and split. They aren't as bumpy and wavy looking as they once were when I was doing damage to my gut from eating gluten grains.  My hair might actually be getting thicker. I can't be absolutely sure but I see far less in the shower drain.  My skin used to break out constantly.  It was a form of gluten intolerance that affected the skin. My skin has been clear
for many months, so I've made some progress.  I still feel bloated at times and this week
I doubled my intake of probiotics.  I think it might be helping.

I'm giving the Warrior diet the full 6 month's trial.





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So here's an interesting thing:  My hubby and I are both Hunters.  My white lines are extremely intense... his barely there.  We both ate wheat and white flour breads all of our lifes.  He still can eat spelt and sprouted grains without having a reaction.  Me - I have a reaction almost immediately even with spelt.  

So, are my white lines due to my indulging so heavily or is it that I'm just more sensitive than my hubby?



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I m a gatherer with white lines also a non secretor O, my ridges are very low, and I haven t had grains in over 11 years now....
have no apparent gluten intolerance either......go figure!


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It is quite possibly a combination of both, or maybe even more factors...  
If you have more damage, either from a more chronic attack or longer term higher quantity, it may take significantly longer for you to heal...  
Remember as well, that we are all individuals and don't react exactly the same to the same inputs...


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Lola,

I have white lines too... but they aren't nearly as bad as when I started the BTD a couple of years ago.  I know what you mean though, I don't eat ANY of the bad carbs (except for occasional sugar..chocolate..)  but the lines won't disappear completely.  But then again I have some liver issues that I'm still getting over via flushes, etc.    I was tested negative for celiac (but I wasn't eating grains when I got the test either) so who knows.  


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My white lines are still quite intense to, after 1 year of virtually full compliance.   And my finger print pattern is still nearly impossible to make out - Im thinking of committing some crimes without any gloves on


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Well, it's been just about 3 months since starting the Genotype diet.  When first starting out getting all my measurements, finger lenghts, etc., I noticed the abundance of white lines that all my fingers had!  Pretty typical for the Nomad.  In fact, I could not even tell what the print pattern of the pinky on my left hand was because it was so lined up!  Yeah, I guess I do have some sort of intolerance to gluten, do ya think?  

Anyhow, while waiting to pick up my daughter at school today I noticed that the white lines on my thumbs, index and middle fingers (both hands) are all but gone!  I could see clearly, just in the sunlight, what my prints were.  For some reason the ring fingers and pinkies are still a bit lined up, but I could actually tell that my mystery pinky is a whirl.  Good news for me I guess, since 8 or more ulnar loops in a Nomad means a tendency towards Alzheimers.  

So I've got 7 ulnar loops and 3 whirls.  Anyhow, I'm just AMAZED how quickly the lines are going away.  I believe in the GTD book it states it may take up to 2 years for the lines to go away.    Guess that's the case with my ring fingers and pinkies!

Isn't it weird that those fingers still have lines?  I wonder if there's some significance to that???  


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Does anyone know if barley malt is okay for gluten intolerant people?

I know that barley is out, but barley malt is from sprouted and then dried barley and it has a different rating than barley in both the GenoType and the Blood Type diet lists that apply to me.
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Does anyone know if barley malt is okay for gluten intolerant people?


according to this, no.  sorry  
tho in looking at some of the things listed......hmmmmmmmmm, I don't know.



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sprouting does not take care of the gluten contained in wheat....same goes for barley, I bet....


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My white lines were so bad that I couldn't even see my fingerprints underneath them.  I'm
noticing that on both hands (after 3 full months of the Warrior diet) that the lines have practically
disappeared on thumbs and index fingers, but are still pretty prominent on other fingers. Lighter
on left hand than right.  I find that curious.  I hadn't been paying attention to my white lines
after initial typing tests were done, but after seeing this thread, I grabbed a magnifying glass to
check. The fact that both thumbs look completely normal right now is huge progress.  What
other diet do we know of in this universe that could accomplish this in 3 short months???
I have been gluten free for 20 months and still I had white lines.


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My white lines were so bad that I couldn't even see my fingerprints underneath them.

meaning your ridges were also extremely low.......
mine are, too......and white lines all across....
when I had my fingerprints done in Phoenix, we all had a hard time reading them.....
am confident this too will change for the better.


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meaning your ridges were also extremely low.......
mine are, too......and white lines all across....
when I had my fingerprints done in Phoenix, we all had a hard time reading them.....
am confident this too will change for the better.



Yes, I have extremely low ridges as well.   What wore the ridges down?  Being gluten intolerant?  Could we assume that everyone with white lines on their fingers and low ridges are also gluten
intolerant?  I was wondering if there were other issues that could cause the same problems.


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Well, this is interesting.  I guess the thumbs are the first to lose their lines???  I really wish I had paid attention but I've got my eyes on the ring and pinky fingers!  I'm really curious to see which one will clear up first.  I bet the ring fingers.  


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Regarding the lines, when you say you "see" the white lines, is it really like a white line? I havent done finger printing yet, but just by observing my fingers, I can see for example, 3 short horizontal lines (more like cuts, not white though) on my left index finger and a few faint vertical "cuts" on the inner side of the same finger. I should go back to that portion in the book I guess..


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Hey Spring,
  That's great! What do you use? Plain ink pad? I had mine done at
clinic..nice and neat. Dr. C did my whole hand..which I never actually had a chance to find out the reason for the whole hand thing. He said I had a few white lines..

Are you eating wheat at all?
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No, Mayflowers, I'm not eating any wheat now at all. The whole hand thing does make sense, but I wouldn't know how to read it.... I'm really happy with these changes, though. Who knows, one of these days I may be able to enjoy whole wheat bread again with a tomato? --- WHAT?! Stranger things have happened to people, though!
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Oh, another thing, I found that putting a tiny bit of oil on my fingers and pressing on glass works great! Actually, now I can see the regular lines perfectly and the short white ones on my ring fingers are visible without using anything, but today I was so shocked when I looked at them I decided to do the oil deal. Never thought in a minute that this would happen so quickly at my age!! I needed this wonderful, new confirmation today!!! Nothing like seeing hard work rewarded!
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Spring, I have the same experience.    In the last 4 months my thumb and index finger pattern on both hands has become 'huge' (clearly visable) and the white lines seem to be reducing.    The other 3 fingers seem to be lagging a bit, but I expect they will appear soon.
I went entirely gluten free in February and feel very good


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Spring, I have the same experience.    In the last 4 months my thumb and index finger pattern on both hands has become 'huge' (clearly visable) and the white lines seem to be reducing.    The other 3 fingers seem to be lagging a bit, but I expect they will appear soon.
I went entirely gluten free in February and feel very good


That is wonderful, Maldo! This all seems like a miracle to me. Sometimes I think there is no telling how wonderful I would have felt if I had known about this diet thirty years ago! The younger people getting interested can't imagine what a great opportunity they have to make the rest of their lives so much better!
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Oh, another thing, I found that putting a tiny bit of oil on my fingers and pressing on glass works great!


Thanks Spring, that's a great idea. I don't love putting ink all over my fingers..What they used at the clinic came off easy.

I actually have been following the beneficials and whole wheat and bran are a beneficial, so I had been eating 1 or 2 small servings of bran bread each week as Dr. D said, to get in as many beneficials as I can. I'll look at my finger prints to see if the lines are worse or not.

Maldo, I was gluten free for a year and it was difficult for me. Did you find it difficult?

AC, that's great that you noticed fading, I hope I see some fading also.
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Mine is improving in spurts. It makes progress and then just sorta stalls out (but doesn't get worse). Then, it gets markedly better and stalls again. The overall affect is slow improvement. I know my body is working on fixing/repairing several different things though, so as long as it's improvement, I'm fine with it. A body can only do so much so fast. Literally.
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A body can only do so much so fast. Literally.



You're so right about that! You were noticing your line all along, but I had forgotten all about white lines until this week. What a nice surprise it was for me! Before, I was having a hard time turning pages because my prints were so smooth. I had noticed that difficulty for a while before starting on the diet but didn't have a clue what had caused the change. Now I know!
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Oh yeah! I've been meaning to post this!  I've been REALLY strict with my Gatherer carbs since Jan.... And my fingerprints have gone from railroad tracks to bee-you-tee-ful loops now.     Even my palm lines are starting to come back too!  I also noticed that improvement seemed to start with the index fingers & work down.
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