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funkymuse
Friday, February 1, 2008, 8:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Well I need to come clean... a month and a week into the GTD... staying wonderfully and happily 99% compliant, I got a horrid sinus head cold.

I made it through without taking anything bad (except the first day) it was so bad, I took Ibuprofen.

Ok so a few days goes by and things are improving and then my husbands birthday appears.  I'm still not well, feeling weak, depressed since I hadn't gotten to exercise much, etc., etc.  I had taken a sauna the night before to try and move this thing along and feeling a little stronger on his birthday, like a compulsive, driven 'shoot first, answer questions later,'Hunter, I got on my Elliptical for 45 minutes.  

Needless to say, I drained whatever strength I had been gaining.  By the time evening came and he begged for a pizza and chocolate cake from his favorite (never eat there any more), pizza joint, I caved; swearing I WOULD NOT TOUCH THE POISEN, but since it was his birthday, it was his choice.

Well I don't think I need to expound on what happened.  I got SICK SICK SICK AND IT took me 3 DAYS to recover to a point where I could be around any junk food and not reach for it.  My brain chemistry got totally whacked out and all my old cravings and mental fears from eating sugar came bounding out of the closet where they had been neatly tucked away under control of the GTD's brain chemistry balancing foods.

Today is the first day that I feel normal again.  

Yesterday in a poetry writing class I had to sit in front of a bowl of almond chocolate covered hershey kisses for 2-1/2 hours without reaching for them; because I knew ONE BITE, will be the beginning of a horrid binge that steals my life away for days on end.  I didn't do it and I subsequently have written to the teacher of the class and ask her to remove those from the table.  She agreed very kindly.  (she must know!!! )  ha...  

So the moral of this story for others out there... is DON'T TAKE ONE BITE OF YOUR MOST INTENSE non-compliant POISENS - especially if you have delt with addiction tendencies with wheat and sugar, etc., etc.  I mean you can do what you want of course, but being clean and compliant and then falling off the ladder is more intense than if you just ate junk continually. Once your system is clean, in my experience, it reacts very intensely to bad foods.

So there... I have it off my heart.  I'm so glad to be posting this and get back in the fray of this supporting board.

Today I made a wonderful stirfry of Rhutabagas, onions, garlic, broccli and applegate sausage all cooked in olive oil and ghee.

Then I made a batch of sardine patties and a pot full of sweet potato/butternut squash soup and also a batch of Katy's Walnutty Fudge.  And I've got a Steak (NY mind you!) thawing for later.  

Now why with all that wonderful healthy food would one cave into the dark hole of junky poisen foods again?  I can't really answer that except based on my story above, it is when I push myself to far physically and become imbalanced.  

Thank you all so much for being here.

Onward....

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...I got SICK SICK SICK AND IT took me 3 DAYS to recover to a point where I could be around any junk food and not reach for it.
Yesterday in a poetry writing class I had to sit in front of a bowl of almond chocolate covered hershey kisses for 2-1/2 hours without reaching for them; because I knew ONE BITE, will be the beginning of a horrid binge that steals my life away for days on end.  ..... but being clean and compliant and then falling off the ladder is more intense than if you just ate junk continually. Once your system is clean, in my experience, it reacts very intensely to bad foods.


funkymuse, you know you are never alone if you waiver. There is always someone there w/ you.    
You are so right.......once you have some junk, it seems something kicks in and says 'it's okay, just this once' (ya know, after that last just once) and then again and again and again until you are 'sitting in front of the almond chocolate covered hershey kisses ..without reaching for them because you  know ONE BITE, will be the beginning of a horrid binge that steals your life away for days on end.'        It truly is so that once being clean, the junk kicks your patooty!! And sometimes in a big way!
I'm gonna hop on some of that good food wagon w/ you. It's not been so good around here either.  
I'm going to post this separately about some really GOOD applesauce I found at Walmart of all places!!



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I noticed you hadn't been around as of late and was wondering about you.  Thought perhaps you were on a glorious vacation!  Sorry to hear you were sick.

Gosh, I know what you mean by reaching for just one yummy thing to pop into the mouth and wanting more, more..........!
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Aw sweetie. Here's a big *hug* for you. Please don't beat yourself up over this.

JMO--I think what happened was that you were already stressed out and physically weak; maybe you needed a higher level of l-tyrosine to help you heal. Or it could be that your body craved starch to help you feel calmer for some reason, or to get you to sleep and rest (carbohydrates often act as a sedative of sorts). It might have been another physical reason, or all of the above, combined with a normal human compulsion to eat the things that taste so good and are so, so bad!

If you're not already taking it, you might try Rhodiola if you're having a lot of trouble with cravings. Craving wheat is a big indicator to me that I'm stressed out and need to take it easy, rest and relax. I take two caps of Rhodiola every morning and it's a huge help in damping down the urge to eat wheat and starches or sugars. I might be a Gatherer but I'm still an O secretor and have a lot of problems with wheat/starch cravings.

I KNOW what you mean about the Hershey's kisses. People bring that sort of thing into my workplace all the time and it takes a lot of self-control to keep my hands out of the candy bowl. I brought a big container of homemade trail mix to work to counter these temptations and it's really helped--I can have a treat that won't make me sick, so I don't feel deprived. (When it comes to treats I'm still three years old!)

Good for you for getting this off your chest with us, and for getting up, dusting yourself off, and continuing down the good red road of health. You're doing a great job!

Btw, please share your recipe for sardine patties? I love sardines and now that they're a superfood for me, I'm on the lookout for new ways to have them


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Friday, February 1, 2008, 11:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from 1323
Well I need to come clean... a month and a week into the GTD... staying wonderfully and happily 99% compliant, I got a horrid sinus head cold.

I made it through without taking anything bad (except the first day) it was so bad, I took Ibuprofen.

Ok so a few days goes by and things are improving and then my husbands birthday appears.  I'm still not well, feeling weak, depressed since I hadn't gotten to exercise much, etc., etc.  I had taken a sauna the night before to try and move this thing along and feeling a little stronger on his birthday, like a compulsive, driven 'shoot first, answer questions later,'Hunter, I got on my Elliptical for 45 minutes.  

Needless to say, I drained whatever strength I had been gaining.  By the time evening came and he begged for a pizza and chocolate cake from his favorite (never eat there any more), pizza joint, I caved; swearing I WOULD NOT TOUCH THE POISEN, but since it was his birthday, it was his choice.

Well I don't think I need to expound on what happened.  I got SICK SICK SICK AND IT took me 3 DAYS to recover to a point where I could be around any junk food and not reach for it.  My brain chemistry got totally whacked out and all my old cravings and mental fears from eating sugar came bounding out of the closet where they had been neatly tucked away under control of the GTD's brain chemistry balancing foods.

Today is the first day that I feel normal again.  

Yesterday in a poetry writing class I had to sit in front of a bowl of almond chocolate covered hershey kisses for 2-1/2 hours without reaching for them; because I knew ONE BITE, will be the beginning of a horrid binge that steals my life away for days on end.  I didn't do it and I subsequently have written to the teacher of the class and ask her to remove those from the table.  She agreed very kindly.  (she must know!!! )  ha...  

So the moral of this story for others out there... is DON'T TAKE ONE BITE OF YOUR MOST INTENSE non-compliant POISENS - especially if you have delt with addiction tendencies with wheat and sugar, etc., etc.  I mean you can do what you want of course, but being clean and compliant and then falling off the ladder is more intense than if you just ate junk continually. Once your system is clean, in my experience, it reacts very intensely to bad foods.

So there... I have it off my heart.  I'm so glad to be posting this and get back in the fray of this supporting board.

Today I made a wonderful stirfry of Rhutabagas, onions, garlic, broccli and applegate sausage all cooked in olive oil and ghee.

Then I made a batch of sardine patties and a pot full of sweet potato/butternut squash soup and also a batch of Katy's Walnutty Fudge.  And I've got a Steak (NY mind you!) thawing for later.  

Now why with all that wonderful healthy food would one cave into the dark hole of junky poisen foods again?  I can't really answer that except based on my story above, it is when I push myself to far physically and become imbalanced.  

Thank you all so much for being here.

Onward....


Oh me, Funky, you did suffer for your sins if anyone ever did! You poor thing! The world just fell in on you - it was enough to make anyone sink!!   Sounds as if you're beginning to step pretty high, though, so maybe those old cravings will soon bite the dust never to rise again!!!!! We're pulling for you!
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I wish someone could teach me the secret of liking sardines - not that I can eat them now but someday I might like them for a change as they are black dot. Right now I absolutely cannot stand the sight or taste of them. Someone said it might be because some time ago I tried to eat some packed in water instead of oil. Most awful something I think I ever put in my mouth. I wouldn't even give them to the dog! Seems like I used to like them when I was a child, but I guess maybe those WERE packed in oil.

Oh, another thing, I buy my applesauce by the 50 ounce jug at Walmart! It isn't quite as good as homemade but it is better than most - with NO sugar. Walmart's own brand.    There is no telling how many gallons of this stuff I've eaten during the last few years. Tell me your new-found brand, Italy, and I'll try it!
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Oh, funkymuse, I've been bad, too, which is why I have not been posting much lately either. I started GTDing, felt good and lost a couple pounds the first week, and being a dope, decided to reward myself with chocolate. Which turned into a few weeks of shameful cheating, and gaining weight. And depression, with all its mental & emotional baggage. I'm reluctantly making a tentative connection between mental problems and sugars consumption. Now I'm craving caffeine.
I feel your pain, funkymuse, and am glad to hear you're doing better. It's inspiring me and giving me hope. I have to say Dr. D's diets feel more "forgiving," if that's the right word, than any other. I'd vowed never to diet again during the mid-1980's after reading a book titled Diets Don't Work, trying the concept of eat what you want and your weight will come into line, and it worked. For me.
I took on Dr. D's "O" diet for health reasons, and it worked like magic, improving a lifetime of miseries. It never felt like I wanted to quit forever if I'd been 'bad.' To sum up, I'm looking forward to being good again and reaping the rewards. Besides, I have to find out whether the O-Nonnie or the Gatherer diet is better for me.
Again, thanks for the encouragement via your posting of this thread.


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I wish someone could teach me the secret of liking sardines - not that I can eat them now but someday I might like them for a change as they are black dot. Right now I absolutely cannot stand the sight or taste of them. Someone said it might be because some time ago I tried to eat some packed in water instead of oil.... Seems like I used to like them when I was a child, but I guess maybe those WERE packed in oil.


I like them in oil a lot more than water, particularly in olive oil, tho it's more expensive. I love them, tho I would not bring them to the office because of their stinkiness to others.
So try them packed in olive oil and salt next time you feel brave. And have somebody around you can give them to if you don't like them. Luck!!


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You all have been soooooo kind... wow.  It's so great that you all have so much support and love...    I will write more tomorrow as I have to prepare for a vocal recording session tomorrow morning and can't spend time here tonight.  BUT I will pass along the sardine recipe and other thoughts...

be back soon....
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JMO--I think what happened was that you were already stressed out and physically weak; maybe you needed a higher level of l-tyrosine to help you heal. Or it could be that your body craved starch to help you feel calmer for some reason, or to get you to sleep and rest (carbohydrates often act as a sedative of sorts).

Btw, please share your recipe for sardine patties? I love sardines and now that they're a superfood for me, I'm on the lookout for new ways to have them


Definitely I think I was craving the carbs and I slept like a baby... but still this was not a good way to go about it!!! sigh.  Live and learn?    Rhodiola makes my brain feel weird... possibly I need to start out on a lower dose?

And the Sardine patty recipe is as follows:

2 cans of sardines in olive oil
2 eggs
2 tbl compliant flour

mix all together and fry in ghee or olive oil until browned and crispy.  add lemon juice or compliant mayo or... as a topping.

So still hanging in there.  Had some GREAT compliant meals yesterday with lots of meat and vegies.

Also started back on my Progestern creme as I think high estrogen was also contributing to the cravings and odd sleeping patterns and sore breasts... (i'm in peri menaopause).
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I wish someone could teach me the secret of liking sardines - not that I can eat them now but someday I might like them for a change as they are black dot. Right now I absolutely cannot stand the sight or taste of them. Someone said it might be because some time ago I tried to eat some packed in water instead of oil. Most awful something I think I ever put in my mouth. I wouldn't even give them to the dog! Seems like I used to like them when I was a child, but I guess maybe those WERE packed in oil.

Oh, another thing, I buy my applesauce by the 50 ounce jug at Walmart! It isn't quite as good as homemade but it is better than most - with NO sugar. Walmart's own brand.    There is no telling how many gallons of this stuff I've eaten during the last few years. Tell me your new-found brand, Italy, and I'll try it!

I loved sardines as a child. My mother used to mash them with lemon juice and fill good sandwiches with them.
More recently on the BTD I have been making sardine patties, which are mashed sardines mixed with beaten egg and some compliant flour plus chopped green vegs. such as parsely or spinach, then fried like burgers. Very nice on a bed of lettuce.




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Thanks for the recipe funkymuse! It's on the menu for breakfast tomorrow. I'm glad to hear you're doing a little better.

If Rhodiola makes you feel strange, then maybe some l-tyrosine would be a better choice. I can't take it because it makes my blood pressure go up, but if you don't have that problem it might work well for you. Deflect is a good choice too.

I'm just coming out of perimenopause into full blown menopause, so I know exactly what you're talking about. I have trouble sleeping through the night, so I take melatonin and valerian about an hour before going to bed, along with a small starchy snack (used to be a banana, now it's usually half an oat flour muffin or a few dried apricots). This helps me to fall back to sleep more quickly if I do wake up, and also to get better restorative 'deep' sleep. I started remembering my dreams when I began to take melatonin--always a good sign for me!


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Meletonin gives me headaches so I take Muscl-ease which has valerin in it...

But I have to take it at around midnight.  I can go to sleep alright, it's waking up later in the night that is my trouble!

Thanks for all the tips!  Much much appreciated.
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Quoted from Jenny

I loved sardines as a child. My mother used to mash them with lemon juice and fill good sandwiches with them.
More recently on the BTD I have been making sardine patties, which are mashed sardines mixed with beaten egg and some compliant flour plus chopped green vegs. such as parsely or spinach, then fried like burgers. Very nice on a bed of lettuce.


Thanks a bunch, Jenny. I WILL try your recipes for sardines!
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Meletonin gives me headaches so I take Muscl-ease which has valerin in it...

But I have to take it at around midnight.  I can go to sleep alright, it's waking up later in the night that is my trouble!

Thanks for all the tips!  Much much appreciated.


Funkymuse, can you take camomile? I use it in capsules at night. I have been using it for years, and it really helps me.
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Funkymuse, can you take camomile? I use it in capsules at night. I have been using it for years, and it really helps me.


hummm in capsules... I'll try it!
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Ah...so that's where you were

Feel better!


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I appreciate others "coming clean" because I was just a baaaahd G2 last night.  Since you guys have fessed up, I feel I can, too.  Bottom line:  I ate pizza.  And not even a pizza made with high-quality ingredients.  No this thing was from a chain called "Pizza Hut".  I've never partaken of their fare before.  Weird.  Wild.  Wacky.  First off, WHY do they send breadsticks along with a pizza?  Like we need MORE wheat?  Well, I tried ONE bite of one breadstick, and I was horrified.  It had some sort of chemically butter-flavored transfat masquarading as butter, and some sort of powdered chemicals on it masquarading as herbs.  In fact, all it was, was transfats, chemicals, wheat lectins and wheat gluten.  I am surprised I didn't drop dead on the spot.

As for the pizza itself:  NOT worth it.  There was something non-food-like about the crust, and the cheese did not seem to be, in fact, cheese.  It looked like cheese, yet tasted like melted plastic.  And the tomato sauce did not seem like tomato sauce.  It seemed like corn syrup, taste-wise.  Suuuuuu-WEEET, much?!!!  The pizza did have some superfoods on it (green pepper, onion, mushroom) but it didn't make up for THE HORROR *lol*.

All I can think about is how I've been detoxing, eating such a pure G2 diet and going through that INTENSE cold that really rid my bod of some deeeeeeeeeep-down toxins, and I go and "re-tox" by choosing to eat pizza.  Aaaaall righty then, Edna.  Way to go.  Setting a great kyosha nim example for the GTD masses there, aren't ya?  Yeah, buddy!

It is very hard to eat a purely pure diet at all times, at least, living in this society it is.  Maybe if we all moved to geodesic domes in Alaska and hunted and gathered our own foods, it would be different.  But, living among the other humans in 2008, it ain't easy being G2.

My view is:  let's not beat ourselves up.  Let's just move on, that was one meal in my case, so just move on to a better day today.  And I am also doing what I promised myself I would on the GTD, and focusing on EATING superfoods versus AVOIDING toxins.  Oh sure, on a daily basis, I do try to avoid the toxins.  But I mean, IF I eat some, like I did last night, I am choosing to think about how I also ate some green pepper, onion, and mushrooms.  Even though I knew we were getting pizza, I made sure it would have some superfoods on it.  So it didn't have to be an "all or nothing", all bad thing.  It was a 97% bad and 3% good thing.

Forward, unafraid!


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great post, Twisty! I think there is good reason to emphasize the positive, (superfoods) .I had been very good the whole day but last night I was out of line and ate a bunch of "Mary's gone crackers"...they are so good, but I didn;t need another carb after dinner. It was a comfort food moment.... so I said to myself "just enjoy it and do better tomorrow."
Funkymuse, glad you're back. We can do this.
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Yep, me too - I spent the weekend eating assorted things I shouldn't, including wheat   I've been doing so well up to now, but when I'm around other people, the resolve seems to slip.  A chinese restaurant was my real downfall yesterday.......

So I started today with all sorts of intentions of eating fully GTD-compliant then succumbed to a flapjack, not even a homemade one, but a commercially produced, avoid-ridden one.  So the most I can say about today is that it is better than yesterday and I aim for tomorrow to be better than today..........

Sorry to hear you paid such a high price for your slip-up, funkymuse, hope things improve rapidly for you now.


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Well if confessions are the thing of the day, I've got one too.  I had company at the ski house and we didn't even ski.   Friday night after driving up in a snow/sleet/frozen rain storm (4 hours instead of 2) we ended up with Chinese.  I ordered beef and snow peas and asked them to leave out the corn starch but who knows.  Then I loaded up on fried rice - yum. Saturday we mostly just sat around.  By 4 we drank pomegranate martinis! Then we went out to dinner and I did have a nice piece of salmon and some rice (and a Cosmo).  Then we went to a club. By then I was just drinking water while everyone else was drinking a local beer.  I don't like beer.  Got home last night and went to a Superbowl party and had lots of chili and cheese and some wine.  I'm exhausted and depressed over the game.
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Me too......Superbowl did me in......paying for it today. Have been good all day so far......it's a whole 11:37 AM       BUT I'm going to be good, no matter. Had my hamburger and some grapefruit juice, so will have to look around for something good for lunch. Hang in there everybody!!!



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[quote]hummm in capsules... I'll try it!


Sorry, Funkymuse, I noticed I had misspelled chamomile after I posted but am just now getting around to correcting it! Hope you don't have a problem gettiing it in caps. I had much rather take it this way instead of tea because I am not really fond of hot drinks of any kind. I order mine from a place in Texas that has a very good name in my book and good prices. http://nourishingfoods.com/ I have used them for quite some time for items I can't get other places. Of course, NAP is my favorite! They may carry chamomile - I haven't checked lately.
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Jayney, those "Mary's Gone Crackers" are NOT bad, if that is your worst wagon-falling-off-of, you are still generally strapped to the thing, no worries!

At least you didn't eat FIVE slices of Pizza Hut pizza.  Yup.  You read that one right.  I was hungry, it was there, that's all she wrote.  I took two glucosamines the second I got home, and an elderberry capsule for good measure.  And then I chose to try and NOT obsess over it.  It's done, I took the countermeasures I could take.  Today I'm doing well thus far (other than the fact that it is 2:23 p.m. and I've had NO protein--danger, Will Robinson, danger, danger!).  Tonight I am going to have either ostrich or turkey, with some nice veggies (onion, asparagus).  I'll be okay, even though the toxin I ate was about as bad as they get, other than "true" poisons such as arsnic!  I mean, wheat:  that is playing with fire, I acknowledge.  But it was either that or Chinese food from a non-good Chinese place that is all corn syrup, corn starch, etc., and I decided that actually the pizza would be the lesser of two evils...although did I HAVE to ingest FIVE slices?  I'm guessing not *lol*!  I think it was five, but I lost count.  It might "merely" have been four!

When I go leaping off the ledge, I try to get maximum leapage.  

Anyway, not my best moment, but we all have moments that are not our best.  All we can do is pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and get going along the trail again.  That's how you sustain a diet for life.  Not via perfection.  Via picking yourself up and dusting yourself off when the need arises.  And then you have to keep on singing as you hike on along the trail.  Singing at the top of your lungs* is KEY.  Show those wheat lectins, white sugars, transfats, et al. that you live to fight another day!  Undaunted!

* Or whistling...the key is to do something JAUNTY and spirited!


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It is very hard to eat a purely pure diet at all times, at least, living in this society it is.  Maybe if we all moved to geodesic domes in Alaska and hunted and gathered our own foods, it would be different.  But, living among the other humans in 2008, it ain't easy being G2.


It's not safe here either. But, hey, come on up and maybe the mass GTD movement will force the markets to actually carry more good foods. And then we could have huge GTD compliant gatherings and weekly meetings and it will be Utopia! I don't know if Alaska's infrastructure could handle the population surge though. Oh, and it's a Republican state so I don't think you'd like it, PT.


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It's not safe here either. But, hey, come on up and maybe the mass GTD movement will force the markets to actually carry more good foods. And then we could have huge GTD compliant gatherings and weekly meetings and it will be Utopia! I don't know if Alaska's infrastructure could handle the population surge though. Oh, and it's a Republican state so I don't think you'd like it, PT.

No big there, I'm surrounded as it is.  There is one of the higher-ups here where I work who, literally every time I am within earshot of him, is making some rabidly scary remark about "liberals".  I fear for my life around him!  I won't even repeat some of the comments I've heard him make.

I would love Alaska but I can't live anywhere that isn't subtropical at this point in the going, due to a physical sitch I've got going.  But back in the day, Vermont was my cuppa (tea, that is).  And I visited Alaska and LOVED it.  WOW.  If I didn't have this physical sitch, I have no doubt I would be in a place like Vermont (probably Vermont itself).  Alaska would be up my general climate alley, too, if not for the aforementioned physical sitch.  New England is really where my heart is, though, specifically Vermont (okay...how many times am I going to repeat that in this post *lol*).

...We interrupt this post to bring you the following horrified Twist Update:

  A guy who has "it" (coldzilla) just came by, stood in the doorway of my cube talking to someone else, and coughed his ever-lovin' head off right into my cube!  HELLO, occupado!  Didn't other people have PARENTS like mine who taught me to "cover your mouth!" and turn away from other humans when coughing!  I don't need my cube re-infused with "it"!

Back to our regularly scheduled post...

Alaska is awesome.  Rugged, wild, beautiful country, delicious salmon, what more could one ask for?


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My OCD co-worker keeps a bottle of Dr. Schulze air detox handy for just such occasions (although it's usually our clients who are coughing their heads off). It may not actually help but it gives us a sense of cleanliness!

Yes, Alaska is fantastic. My Illinois friends ask me why I ever moved here. Well, the first time I flew back to Chicago, the answer was re-affirmed for me. I love that I look upon two volcanoes in Cook Inlet as I drive down the hill from my house to work. And that I can be in my backyard and feel like there's no one else in the world.


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And then you have to keep on singing as you hike on along the trail.  Singing at the top of your lungs* is KEY.  Show those wheat lectins, white sugars, transfats, et al. that you live to fight another day!  Undaunted!

* Or whistling...the key is to do something JAUNTY and spirited!


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I was a good girl.  I stood there a long time gazing at the corn chips.  They called my name.  Loudly.  But instead of listening, I downed a bottle of Mike's Hard Limeade, which gave me a stomach ache.  At least that was temporary.  If I'd answered the call of the corn chips, I would have eaten half the bag, at least, and spent today feeling like a truck ran over me.


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I have not been a good girl.    PT, I too succumbed to Pizza Hut pizza!  Felt rotten the next day as well.  Also went on a chocolate binge.

I have really been struggling with compliance.  I do well through the day when I make my own meals, but when I come home after work I rely on my DH to do the cooking.  He is a very picky eater and usually doesn't like to try anything new or different that he hasn't made. He doesn't like my cooking; he says it's too bland (Maybe that is because I don't use salt).

I am also finding it hard to find new veggies.  It is a good thing that I love broccoli, sweet potatoes, and asparagus.  

Well, Tomorrow is another day! A new chance to eat healthy.  funky, you see you are not the only one who is struggling.  We all feel your pain!


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Peppermint Twist - you have a great quote from someone else and I need to add that I love this one from your post: "When I go leaping off the ledge, I try to get maximum leapage."  I couldn't agree more, although it tends to bite us in the butt, doesn't it?

For those of you talking about wheat cravings and things to take for it, could you give me some more information?  I never thought I had a problem with wheat, but it's now an avoid on the G3 Teacher diet, and I can really relate to what you guys are talking about.  I've got homemade spelt bread in the house right now and I can have a slice and feel full and well fed and just leave it.  My husband (not a BTD/GTD follower) likes to have naughty bread in the house and if I don't eat it, I don't eat it, but if I have one tiny piece, I find myself ruining my dinner by eating half the loaf, going back for one slice after one slice after one slice...  it's especially bad if some sort of yummy bad for you dip is available.  Last week it happened to be fresh baked chiabata and goat milk cream cheese with chives...  
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I ate two chile rellenos yesterday, along with two soapaipillas with honey, some spanish rice, and a pepsi. I popped a couple of Deflect last night, and took 800 mg of magnesium, hoping to get things moving. Oy! It happens to the best of us.


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Wow, Drea, I would as soon eat poison as some of that stuff! My sister is a great believer in magnesium, and she finally made one out of me.  Of course, I took it with calcium, but there are other benefits!  
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I'm doing surprisingly well after my "oops". That's the good news. The bad news is that I'm doing surprisingly well  .


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I ate two chile rellenos yesterday, along with two soapaipillas with honey, some spanish rice, and a pepsi. I popped a couple of Deflect last night, and took 800 mg of magnesium, hoping to get things moving. Oy! It happens to the best of us.


Can Deflect really work on the GTD for toxic foods?




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So sorry to be checking in here so late---and I'm very sorry you've had a bout of illness, Funky!  Sounds like everything is going better for you--Good News!

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Can Deflect really work on the GTD for toxic foods?




Not sure if Deflect works specifically for GTD toxic foods, but all that I ate falls under the avoid category of BTD and GTD, and therefore should still bind those lectins away.



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Ugh.  Now I have fallen off too.

Apparently, I was too quick to think eggs were perfectly fine for me now.  As it turns out, they now take a lot more, and longer, to pull me down now, but that's almost worse, because it came upon me so gradually, after little more than a week of eating an egg or two almost daily.  Now I've been miserable for the last few days, and tonight I gave in and ate a QUART of ice cream.  Breyer's Strawberry--at least it was just sugar and milk that were toxin/avoid, and no corn syrup.  I'm feeling better after doing it, but I'm sure there's a backlash coming...especially with the candida "alien".
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Drive, it might not have been the eggs. I have had some sort of problem since lunch yesterday. I had cod, beans and fruit, and I started feeling strange almost as soon as I ate it. I have been that way most of today, too, but I am beginning to feel better during the last hour or so. Have no idea what it might be, but I have been eating as I should all day today and have been since I started on the diet. I think we may as well get used to the idea that something crazy is apt to happen at any time until we get past the three plus months. The last thing we need to do is go nuts and eat something we KNOW is going to make us feel bad!   I do hope you don't pay too dearly for this little binge. Who knows, you might do just fine!
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Drive, it might not have been the eggs.


It may not have been, but I'm 95% sure it was.  Before BTD, when I first started keeping a food journal in search of food sensitivities, eggs where the only item I was able to discover (then) that I was sensitive to.  I tried them again after a while on BTD and they were still a problem.  I tried them yet again about 3 weeks after going gluten-free, and they seemed ok, so I believe it was my leaky gut causing the problem with eggs.  Apparently, my gut hasn't healed completely (and I shouldn't expect it to this soon!), so some of the egg is still squeaking through, just not as much of it as before, which is why it took longer eating them to become a problem.  I am staying off them again as a precaution.

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I do hope you don't pay too dearly for this little binge. Who knows, you might do just fine!


My whole tongue had a slight white coating when I woke up today--an obvious candida reaction.  Otherwise, I feel ok, better than yesterday.  Of course, I haven't eaten eggs since Thursday.  I'll stay away from anything sweet today (even carrots) and see what it looks like tomorrow.
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Hi P-Twist,

I live in Middlebury, Vermont and was stuck in my house for two days until yesterday when a neighbor decided to be kind and plow out the four feet of snow and ice.  It's supposed to snow and be  gray for the next two weeks.  February is usually the sunniest month of the Vermont year - not this year!  I'm absolutely light-starved and fantasize of every single minute sensation of lying on a warm beach - other than sand fleas that is.....

Soak it up for me please.....
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Spring, you broke the rules of food combiantions.
Fruit should be eated alone, or at least before the other food. If the beans were beans(& not green beans), that is a no-no as you shouldn't mix different types of proteins. (You may mix meat, fish & poultry; just don't mix meats with nuts or beans or seeds, etc.).
I hope this helps. Not everyone believes in food combinations, but they have helped me & I can't mix certain things!
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Spring, you broke the rules of food combiantions.


Where do you learn about food combining?
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Spring, you broke the rules of food combiantions.
Fruit should be eated alone, or at least before the other food. If the beans were beans(& not green beans), that is a no-no as you shouldn't mix different types of proteins. (You may mix meat, fish & poultry; just don't mix meats with nuts or beans or seeds, etc.).
I hope this helps. Not everyone believes in food combinations, but they have helped me & I can't mix certain things!
Sea Salt & Light, Mrs "T"     O+  


It is hard for me to understand that different proteins are bad for you at one meal. I have always eaten them together with the thought of balancing the proteins. I know Dr. D. has said in the book that this isn't necessary, but I don't want to take any chances with incomplete proteins because of the effect not getting enough protein has on my blood sugar. Also, I have been eating fish, beans and fruit together since I started on the GTD with no problems whatsoever. In fact, I have posted the wonderful results I have been having. To do what you suggest, I would have to be eating every two hours to finally get the food ingested that I need in a day. As I have said before, I am very busy and don't have the time to be occupied with this sort of regimen at this time. Once I have time to adjust more to this diet, maybe I can branch off into fine tuning it. This all has been a major shift in thinking from the start, and, with all the detoxing going on, research for foods that are almost impossible to find, MORE food prep that is time-consuming because of commercial products that are not acceptable, it is enough to keep anyone in a whirl.  These people who can throw a steak or chicken on, have a salad with broccoli, etc. and a carb or two, with the privilege of grabbing a banana between meals, have it made IMO!! In fact, I scored 21 on Hunter strength testing! Only 9 on Warrior. So the nature of this Warrior diet beast is very hard for me to come to terms of peace! But I have been giving it my best and have had very good results until that meal last Thursday.

But I will certainly keep your suggestions in mind.  If this doesn't resolve itself in a day or two, there is not a question but that I am going to have to make some changes. I understand that some of these beans I have not gotten yet are easier on the digestion than the ones I am forced to eat because they are all I can find locally. So I am looking forward to getting the more civil ones and trying them out!
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Where do you learn about food combining?


Here is some information on Dr. D's opinion on food combining, taken from a question he answered in June 2004.

QUESTION: Are you an advocate of "food combining" for a type A with Crohn's disease?

ANSWER: I am aware that many practitioners use food combining as part of their dietary recommendations. I do not, simply because the blood type diets do specifically what food combining attempts to do non-specifically.

Proponents of food combining claim that correct food combinations are important for proper digestion, utilization, and assimilation of the nutrients our body needs to sustain life. Different foods require different digestive enzymes to aid in the digestive process - some acid, some alkaline. When acid and alkaline foods come in contact, they neutralize each other and retard digestion. If the food we eat is not properly digested, it will pass through the intestinal tract without being completely broken down, getting stuck between the crevices located in the intestinal track - thereby causing the toxic wastes to ferment and putrefy.

Critics claim that there's no evidence to support such contentions. Nearly all foods are themselves combinations. If you eat beans, for example, you're getting carbohydrates (sugars and starches), protein and fiber, among other things. Bread combines protein, carbohydrates, a little fat and many other things. A simple dish like macaroni and cheese, a peanut butter sandwich, or oatmeal with milk contains sugars, starches, protein and fat. Our digestive system handles food combinations very efficiently. The process begins in the mouth as we chew food and saliva acts upon it, beginning the breakdown of starches into sugars. Other enzymes come into play along the line, resulting in almost complete digestion and absorption of nutrients, no matter how they are combined.

One recent study showed that there was no difference in weight loss between two groups studied, one group doing food combining, the other not. (1)

I have seen some people use food combining with benefit, especially in the early stages of adapting to the blood type diets (particularly when the changes differ drastically from their prior diet). Beyond that, any additional benefits would be provided de facto by the ER4YT principles.

This is especially true of the lectin avoidance and polyaminelowering functions of the blood type diet with regard to Crohn's Disease.

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Funky, i wanted to let you know your not really alone! I had a VERY similar incident. I fell off the wagon after 3 days of eating out and being w/ friends. I had prior not gotten sick for over a year, but right after the cheating I got sick! It was quite bad, i had fever, etc, I took Umcka per friends advice, and it helped break the fever quickly, as that weekend we were doing a ski trip w/ friends. I was on soup and millet bread for days, lost weight, btw, lol, and got better w/ help of the diet. Its scary that if we go off, we get so sick. And, a confession too, I have gotten lax after the first month on the diet. Since, i have not lost any more weight, and not felt too good. I will admit also, I have not been exercising b/c the weather turned so cold and icky. I started my work outs again today, and am hoping to buy an elliptical machine if i can find a affordable one. I still have been eating some sugar, I know its bad.. I really love ice cream, and have been eating rice dream (they have some w/ carob, and no sugar added). But, if i go for the sugary stuff, i gain and feel bad. I think its a learning process about our selves, and we should stand together and support each other. Im glad your feeling better!

ps- my hubby is not as happy about the diet as I am, he is an explorer and not thrilled w/ his choices. But, he loves that he can have rice, since hes a big fan of it, lol. But he wont go near rice crust pizza--yet.
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I can be in my backyard and feel like there's no one else in the world.

See, right there.  THAT is what I want.  I'm sick of so many neighbors being up my BLEEPED.  Oh, give me land, lots of land...don't fence me in!



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And then you have to keep on singing as you hike on along the trail.  Singing at the top of your lungs* is KEY.  Show those wheat lectins, white sugars, transfats, et al. that you live to fight another day!  Undaunted!

* Or whistling...the key is to do something JAUNTY and spirited!


BRAVO, PT!!!




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