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 Warriors, are you happy with your diet change?
Yes, I love it! It feels right~ (7 votes)
22.58%
I will try this for 3-6 months (5 votes)
16.13%
I wonder if I could be half Teacher (4 votes)
12.90%
I am positive I'm typed correctly. (3 votes)
9.68%
I have great energy (3 votes)
9.68%
I see no change (3 votes)
9.68%
I feel like there's some other group I belong to, but it doesn't exist (2 votes)
6.45%
I'm losing weight (2 votes)
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It feels wrong. (1 votes)
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I wonder if I could be half Explorer (1 votes)
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Jenny
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Quoted from Carol the Dabbler

Spring, you're right about that heading.  Neither of Dr. D's diets requires total abstinence from avoids.  But (as you acknowledge in your final paragraph) it's one thing for an individual to knowingly choose to eat an avoid once in a while, for whatever reason, and it's quite another for an "official" site to be repeatedly handing out clearly erroneous information.  We're "allowed to cheat" -- they aren't.



Brilliant!



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You may need to do what I mentioned first. Have you noticed the word LIMIT on that column??? I think it means exactly what it says. But some people are going to have trouble with some foods no matter what list it appears on for the rest of their lives, as I said. Some people have a whole lot more trouble with chicken than others. As for me, the night we were rushed and Wendy's was the option, their new fish sandwich was a disaster. I only ate the fillet but I was miserable all day yesterday from it. I would have been better off eating the grilled chicken or going hungry. We're living in a real world and sometimes we have to do the best we can as Lloyd has said.  I am not eating anything at this point that is not on my superfood list, haven't since I started on the diet and don't plan to anytime soon.

Obviously, you have not read too many of my posts or you would already know this!

Finally, I am well aware that the other website is having problems. Dr. D. has spoiled all of us with this wonderful site and it is obvious that a lot of TLC has gone into it. No doubt, the other site will get its act together or cease to exist. Dr. D.'s followers are much too smart to have a whole lot of patience with erroneous information. Most of us have spent nearly a lifetime getting fed up with that sort of thing already. I'm afraid Dr. D. is going to lose five years off his life worrying over that errant baby.  


Spring, there's obviously a glitch. They would never recommend an "avoid" as a dinner option for a Warrior if they're sending out those emails to attract people to join. They should have suggested salmon, not chicken!  

As I mentioned before, there is no black dot next to chicken. Chicken is an
avoid.  The last time I checked the dictionary avoid, means: "to stay away from. to keep away from; keep clear of; shun: to avoid a person; to avoid taxes; to avoid danger." It doesn't mean "eat once a month or once a week". If that were the case, Dr. D would have listed "have once a week" instead of "avoid".
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i prefer never to say I'm"cheating".  It makes me feel like I'd be doing something wrong or
unethical or illegal.  In truth, we are entitled to eat any limited food or any food for that
matter based on our personal circumstances and choices.  Not all of us are doing this diet
as saints.  And we are subject to availability of food choices depending on where we are.
I know for sure that if I were in any situation where I had a food choice to make, I'd chose
the least objectionable one.  I'd eat grilled chicken over fried fish.  But still, I think if anyone
is talking about recommending an ideal food choice for a Warrior, that chicken would not
be one of the recommendations. It sounds to me like an error.


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My skin started being a problem when I was about 10 (I had mono when I was 9, BTW).  My mother figured it was acne, and it did indeed look like acne until I was about 12, at which point it started turning into boils and would literally ooze for months.


Ribbit,

I think the mono was such a trauma that you developed multiple sensitivities.  Now those sensitivities, some low grade and some high grade (nightshades), are what is causing your discomfort...  My recommendation is to look into NAET (www.naet.com) to relieve some of the energy sensitivities while you continue with the diet.

At about 7, I had a fall, landed on my head, wrenched my neck and hurt some of the nerves in my upper neck.  From then on I had problems that continued getting worse until, at 35 I started having exhaustive collapses to go along with all of the other problems.  Finally, I was introduced to NAET and am fortunate to live within 15 miles of the technique developer's office...  When we did the initial testing, the energy test showed that I was (she said allergic, I say "sensitive") sensitive to all 150+ foods tested, except carrots.  Soem foods showed a mild sensitivity and others showed a major problem.  I was also sensitive to many chemicals, medicines - both prescription and OTC, and many other normal household items...

The NAET practitioner explains that all items have a specific energy and the body senses these energy levels during times of trauma and stores this record as an "allergy" in the hypothalamus.  Every time you come into contact with the offending energy, your body reacts with a "fight or flight" response...  If the body "thinks" that some organ is a problem, you can develop sensitivities to organs, although reactions to organs are usually in combination with exposure to something external (food, odor, or touched) energy.


I had all types of reactions from minor itching to adrenal shutdown/collapse.


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I agree that it would be a shame for the other site to fail after it has come this far. Dr. D. has already freely given away a king's ransom in information that he and his dad spent many decades accummulating. We are truly indebted to him and his family for making our lives so much better than we could have imagined - and teaching us the why along with it.
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Thanks, ABJoe and others.  When this baby weans I'm going to do some serious cleansing (liver, Candida, parasite, total body, and figure out what's up with my adrenals).  I might even go on a raw/GTD diet.  My skin got a little better a few months ago when I went almost totally carb-free.  I cut out all grains except millet and quinoa (before GTD, when millet was okay), and only allowed myself grapefruit, lemons and limes for fruit.  After a while my skin did begin to look a little better, but I felt even more tired than usual and a little depressed and it was a real chore to even get out of bed to tend to my children.  It was almost easier to lay there with a pillow over my head and just listen to them fuss.  That's saying a lot.  At any rate, I added fruit and grains back in, my skin got worse, and I had a little more strength.

Edited to add:  Chloe called her skin problems "raised bumps with fluid inside."  Maybe "boils" isn't the right term for me to use.  But isn't the definition of boils raised bumps with fluid inside?


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Ribbit, I get those bumps on my face. Red, only fluid inside, like the size of a pimple?   I got them from eating oranges and lemons. I found it out by accident when I ate a mango and my face broke out the next morning I realized I was allergic to mangos, so I experimented with oranges and I got the red bumps you speak of on my face. Having problems with break outs since 16 years old, I stopped eating oranges and lemons.  The ony citrus that doesn't affect me is grapefruit.

A few weeks ago, I was trying to make salad dressing with lemon juice instead of vinegar and after 3 days of eating salad like this, my face broke out in red bumps. As soon as I stop the lemon, my face clears up.
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These are more chronic than what you're talking about.  Glad you figured out what it was.  


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Hi, fellow warriors.

This site has been real busy.

Ribbit, I feel for you.
I have had quite a few skin problems, staying off chocolate, wheat
and milk has helped. Interestingly, I had no skin problems when I
was pregnant but I broke out in acne and other stuff (red small,
itchy spots) after my son was born. This continued untill I weaned
him. I think it also has something to do with my hormones going
all wacky. My son became colic and he was so active. I hardly got
any sleep. Ah, the sacrifices we make as mothers.

Now, I happen to love and I mean love chicken. Almost as hard to
give up as wheat. And yes, I'll admit it, I eat a little lean
chicken once and a while. But I do not feel bad after eating it.
I keep a food diary and have a pretty good idea what works and
what does not. Many of the avoids on Dr. Ds list are actually
avoids for me. Chicken I am not so sure about, but a doctor told
me if I can find free range chicken it is okay. My body can no
longer tolerate foods that so many additives, like hormones,
antibiotics, and so on.

I started my food diary when I went on a Dr Josh's 21 Detox diet.
This is easy to follow. It's basically a liver cleanse and you give
up white sugar, white flour and white rice. Of course all red meat,
alochol, and fruit (except bananas) are off limits. So, basically,
you eat organic (if possible), locally grown vegies, whole grains
some fish and a little chicken. After 21 days, you gradually introduce
a food, like milk and wait 2 days before trying something else. I just
recorded how I reacted to each new item. Just as I suspected, I did
not feel well after eating wheat and dairy products (except yogurt).
I would actually get bloated and sometimes even a skin rash.

So, what I am left with is basically the Warrior diet! I thought that
was quite interesting. If you are still on the fence about what diet
to follow, BTD or GTD, try a (liver) detox and then gradually introduce foods, especially those recommended on BTD or GTD.

Now, I forgot, what is the deal with honey. Are warriors allowed
honey? Hope so. I know I should look it up, but do not have the
book with me.

Anybody have a good recipe for a tofu-walnut loaf?

Suzanna


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Warriors)  really need low glycemic foods,  honey is very high glycemic.


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Yes Warriors are allowed honey.... occasionally, after following the plan for 3-6 months and are in good health
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Quoted from Ribbit
These are more chronic than what you're talking about.


If the culprit is something you eat (or are otherwise exposed to) every day or so, the results will be chronic.  That's why it took me so long to figure out that I'm allergic to cow's milk -- I felt dopey all the time!



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Yes Warriors are allowed honey.... occasionally, after following the plan for 3-6 months and are in good health


Well, good to know I can have some honey, but I suspect I should stay of anything with alot of sugar. But, but....


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If the culprit is something you eat (or are otherwise exposed to) every day or so, the results will be chronic.  That's why it took me so long to figure out that I'm allergic to cow's milk -- I felt dopey all the time!



I forgot to mention that when I run a fever things get better.  I don't know if it's burning something off (Candida?) or if it's just that when I'm sick I don't eat the problem food.....


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Well, good to know I can have some honey, but I suspect I should stay of anything with alot of sugar. But, but....


You know the story, sugar in any form isn't good for people. I'm not talking about allowed fresh fruits. I mean processed sugar. Even honey can feed candida...so we have to keep that balance...If I can ever find it. Still working on it.  
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Quoted from Ribbit


I forgot to mention that when I run a fever things get better.  I don't know if it's burning something off (Candida?) or if it's just that when I'm sick I don't eat the problem food.....


Ribbit, I can't remember if you said you took Deflect or not. I was reading in the archives yesterday where Dr. D. highly recommended it for nursing mothers.
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000022.htm
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I've been taking it for about a year.


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protein combos to consider
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy


Yes, these work for me too. I love ground flax in yogurt. When I have beans, I eat yogurt sweetened with maple syrup for dessert. I really like walnuts on certain beans. The grains go great with soy milk. Yogurt mixed in tuna goes down all right too - sometimes I put hemp seed granola on it.
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Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?
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Quoted from 815
Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?


I'm looking at page 254 in the Genotype Diet book where it lists the red meats for Warriors.
I could be wrong, but under the foods called toxins which are best to avoid, the first item
mentioned is beef...then bone (assuming this is beef bones), then soups (with beef) and
finally broth (assuming this means beef broth),

I'm wondering if you've interpreted this incorrectly or have I?  

It appears to me that no beef is considered neutral and in fact, we are to consider all beef
and beef products to be toxins.

Lola, your comments please.



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Quoted from 815
Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?


  Beef is an avoid for Warriors, no matter how it is cut.



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Quoted from Andrea AWsec


  Beef is an avoid for Warriors, no matter how it is cut.



That was my impression too.  No beef for Warriors at all!



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I'm not reading it like that, I'm reading it like specific...like the beef bone and beef broths and soups.  Dr. D. said he eats a steak once a week. So, I wonder..   Not that I really care, like I said I really don't like red meat.  Could be my bad.    Ah but, he didn't list "veal"

Also if you look at the way the other meats are listed, if it was any and all beef, he would have just written "beef" and left it at that. Why bother writing beef heart, beef liver? "Beef" covers everything about the cow. I'll just ask him when I see him.

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Dr. D. said he eats a steak once a week.

when did he say that?

beef is a neutral for us gatherers while beef heart and liver and sweetbreads are specified and are toxins.


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Chloe,
I believe your perception is right!

during BT days, I was under the impression that beef bone soup had no lectin, and that As for example could have it......
but here in the warrior list it s clearly stated, that it s an avoid!

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You can use beef bones for your stock. There's no lectin (or 'galectin') in beef, so making broth with them is perfectly fine. A tip: roasting them before putting them in the water will make a tastier soup.

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/otd/archives/00000418.htm



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