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I have wondered if the desire to smoke has anything to do with blood type.  It might be worth a poll if anybody wanted to set one up.  See, tobacco is a nightshade.  Some of us do terribly with nightshades and maybe we'd be the ones to get cancer from smoking.  Other people smoke for 50 or 60 years or more and never get cancer.  Makes me wonder if they are type Bs who can handle nightshades just fine.  

My oldest brother used to occasionally go get a beer.  I tagged along once and took a sip of his.  It was disgusting.  I asked him how he could drink that and he said, "Oh, you don't drink it for the flavor, you drink it for the affect."  I was old enough (legally) to drink by that age, but because we didn't drink at all in our house also for doctrinal (which I don't believe any more) and practical reasons (except for Communion at church several times a year), I wasn't going to go behind by father's back and drink, whether for taste or effect.

Unfortunately for my blood type, I really like rum.  Alcohol isn't a depressant for me.  It's a mood elevator and I like it because I need that.  So I limit myself and only keep wine in the house--nothing stronger.  Since I've been raw, I've lost my desire even for wine.


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I used to hate beer when I was a kid.  But it was probably cheap stuff.  It's an acquired taste.  


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Is there any one beer that is suppose to be more beneficial than another for B Nomad?  I like most beers.  (back when I was a concierge I had to try many foods and beverages for recommending). Most brews have their own flavor, body and quality. Talk about true indiviuality and what they are brewed with varies greatly.  

It seems like one size would not fit all.  

It doesn't matter to me which one I incorporate occasionally.  
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Good question!


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There are more on that list than Beer.  If every other chart shows a diamond superfood, do you zero in on only one food and eat it exclusively?  If that's how you are interpreting it, then go for it.  I think balancing out with the other foods is what I'll do.  

Right again AB.We are not small children, to be told what to do in absolute terms for out own safety for instance; the old commonsense rule, mixed with individuality applies at all times.




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Well, I can't say as there haven't been days where I wouldn't have minded drinking 4-5 beers.  Hehehehhahahahha    But, I think I'll err on the side of conservative on this issue.  


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I have wondered if the desire to smoke has anything to do with blood type.  It might be worth a poll if anybody wanted to set one up.  See, tobacco is a nightshade.  Some of us do terribly with nightshades and maybe we'd be the ones to get cancer from smoking.  Other people smoke for 50 or 60 years or more and never get cancer.  Makes me wonder if they are type Bs who can handle nightshades just fine.  


Type B friends in Greece, Cyprus, Romania, India and immediate family members who had a long life span were smokers as well. Most of them died of old age around 90+

Type O's & Type A's on the other hand had serious health issues involving the lungs and heart. Some of them quit smoking and their health improved. Some of them just wouldnt quit, and ...

It was an informal info gathering I did 2 years ago.

The B's get away with everything  !



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How about ABs & smoking? My AB aunt is 95 & smoked quite a bit. My A mother, who also smoked(but less), died at 55 & smoking must have been a factor as well as her love of beef.
I've repeated this info before, but it is amazing how many questions the BTD & GTD answer!!


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They all probably had few SNP's (singular nucleotide polymorphism) or snips, as they are referred to... Or perhaps just all the "good" ones.

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...Variations in the DNA sequences of humans can affect how humans develop diseases and respond to pathogens, chemicals, drugs, vaccines, and other agents...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_nucleotide_polymorphism

As a B, I can tell you... it ain't the B antigen alone that makes one able to smoke like a chimney, drink like a fish... and live a long and healthy life...  


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I used to smoke and drink a lot, but when I was in my early 20's I could already tell it was taking it's toll on my body.  Thank God he intervened and help turn my life around and I quit those things.  I still would drink alcohol after that after a while, but I never had more than one at a time.  No more abusing and trying to drink my troubles away.


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And the cigarettes just used to make my lungs burn after getting out of a hot shower.  Kind of scary.


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Type B friends ....... died of old age around 90+

Type O's & Type A's on the other hand ............just wouldnt quit.




Ha.  I thought so.  Thank you for confirming (unofficially and unscientifically, of course).  Very interesting.  I always kind of thought that all plants were given to us for a reason (but not poison ivy, my very allergic husband reminds me).  Now I'm completely against smoking only because it's disgusting (meaning, smells bad) and gives some people cancer.  However, it must in some way have some beneficial property for us.  My opinion only.  I think the same thing about currently illegal "drugs" made naturally from plants (as in, not distilled down or turned into whatever).  These things are for our use, our health, our enjoyment, etc., within reasonable bounds.  Has anybody ever smoked tobacco made naturally, directly from the plant, with no extra nicotine added?  Does it stink like cigs, or is it like pipe smoke (which to me smells wonderful)?  Do people get cancer from smoking natural tobacco?



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it is dragging it into your lungs that is the problem.
perhaps chewing tobacco is a better choice.


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Do you think astrology could have something to do with smoking? I'm a Taurus but I'm also a fire monkey.  I smoked.  I quit 20 years ago.

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My A mother, who also smoked(but less), died at 55 & smoking must have been a factor as well as her love of beef.


My sister is 54, she just quit smoking last month and she loves red meat.    I hope genes have more to do with longevity on the pro side with her..
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[quote=ABNoWay]  But I love the tast of good, expensive, beer.  I'm from Wisconsin.  I won't drink the cheap stuff though.  Yuck.

Guiness would be good.  Leinenkugel's makes some wonderful tasting different blends too.  I'm not a real big foster's guy though.
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Hee-hee.  In my neck of the woods, they would call this a redundant statement, you cheeseheads and your beer.        Leinies is a nice local brew - love that you drink locally!  My company was started in Chippewa Falls, Leinenkugel's and Cray are the 'only' employer's there.  (Hi from your neighbor to the West).


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My son likes beer.  He tries to find local, natural or organic if he can.  I hate the taste of beer, always have.  I like white wine and rum.  We both smoke and try to quit.  Ive quit numerous times.  He smokes way less than I ever did.  My AB- Father had lung cancer.  Youd think being a witness to that would have stopped us smoking.  Now Im addicted to nicorette gum.  Im also addicted to caffeine.  My son is trying to stop smoking now.  He went 2 weeks without a cigarette then went drinking with his friends and bummed.  I think he will make it to the total quitting stage some day, but me, Ill stick with my gum.  I hope you guys are correct about Bs.


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[quote=ABNoWay]  But I love the tast of good, expensive, beer.  I'm from Wisconsin.  I won't drink the cheap stuff though.  Yuck.

Guiness would be good.  Leinenkugel's makes some wonderful tasting different blends too.  I'm not a real big foster's guy though.
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Hee-hee.  In my neck of the woods, they would call this a redundant statement, you cheeseheads and your beer.        Leinies is a nice local brew - love that you drink locally!  My company was started in Chippewa Falls, Leinenkugel's and Cray are the 'only' employer's there.  (Hi from your neighbor to the West).


Hey, I resemble that remark.  Hehehha hahaha.  Hello from the EAST!!!  My lake is bigger than your 10000000000000000's.  Just kidding.  


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rum


I'd rather have rum than anything else.  I think I have a rum deficiency.


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Lush.  


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Oh, one or two glasses of wine a week and a shot of rum every six months is hardly lush-ous.


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I'm just teasing!


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I have one entire side of my family that are Bs. It's always one big party and anything goes with the substance use/abuse.  Like Cher says "gypsies, tramps & theives".  

The Bs just keep living their lives like nothing happened, never getting sick, but the O & A hangers on take a beating.  This is what I've noticed.  

The BTD info has showed me this observation so clearly and made me wonder why I was always the "white sheep" of the family.  I refrained from everything except the occasional drink.  Still do.

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There is one other B who is just like me on this side of the family and she was born on the same exact day as me  .  She refrains from all of the partying antics.  We are often compared.    
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