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jenac
Thursday, January 31, 2008, 7:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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My husband's GTD tests show he is a Nomad even though he is Blood Type B-. In reviewing his Superfoods he noticed (can I say gleefully?) that beer is a beverage: 1)he can have, 2)that is beneficial to his GenoType,and 3)can be consumed 2-4 times daily...Now I've been telling him for years that beer has contributed to his expanding waistline. Am I way off base? Are we reading the info incorrectly? Anyone? Please advise.
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What?  Nomads stay in one spot long enough to drink 4 beers?  Oh.  Maybe if they drank 4 beers, they would stay in one spot.


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your on base as far as I am concerned
I know from experence that the amount of beer I drank in the past went right to my waist and I gained pounds. quit drinking beer = less belly
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I think the portion/frequency recommendations need to be read with discernment and good judgment.  If I drank even one beer a day, I would be SO fat!  But as a Nomad, I now know that beer is a better choice than wine, so I plan to retrain my thinking for those times that I do want to drink.  I don't think that daily alcohol intake is necessary or a good idea anyway, for the most part.

Moderation can allow your husband to enjoy his beer, but it's not a license to overindulge.  It's all about individuality and self-responsibility.



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I recently restarted drinking beer after 7 years of not drinking anything. I have limited myself to exactly 1 beer a week and will see how it goes.
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My husband's GTD tests show he is a Nomad even though he is Blood Type B-. In reviewing his Superfoods he noticed (can I say gleefully?) that beer is a beverage: 1)he can have, 2)that is beneficial to his GenoType,and 3)can be consumed 2-4 times daily...Now I've been telling him for years that beer has contributed to his expanding waistline. Am I way off base? Are we reading the info incorrectly? Anyone? Please advise.

I don't think the beer is the only beverage in the list, so I expect he would be better to drink a variety of beverages, rather than focus on any one exclusively...

The beer may have been putting weight on, but other avoids may have contributed as well...  I think most of my extra weight was due to red meats and sugar/corn products...  



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The beer I prefer is Guinness.  I figure it has some vitamins and minerals in it.  I can't imagine drinking more than one in a day because it really has body.  It doesn't go down as easily as the lite beers.
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You have all given sound advice. Don't want you to think that Hub is planning on consuming all that beer. We just both found it curious that beer was beneficial since the diamond next to the food indicates that it aids in weight loss... Agree that moderation in all things is wise (except brussel sprouts - I absolutely love them!)
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Here's my two cents worth:
My brother is a blood type B nomad. He not only likes his beer, he makes it (and very good beer, too). It has not made him over-weight. He does not drink it daily, but he does have it regularly. When he does have it, he does not drink it to excess - only a pint. He likes a variety of beverages in addition to his beer. One last thing, and I think this could be a key: he does not ever drink el-cheap-o beers. He drinks what he's made himself or buys premium quality unfiltered beers which actually can have some nutritional value - we are not talking Bud or Miller.
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Yep I tend to prefer mexican beer  or german and emphasize quality over quantity. I despise lite beer. The first one I drank on the GTD was Corona and then I bought a six pack of Shiner Boch, still have 3 left. The first weekend I drank 2 beers one each night. When I weighed the next wednesday I found I had lost 3 pounds over a one week period. I can fluctuate 2 pounds in a day though so that may be a fluke.
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i love beer now... i used to hate it. its definately an acquired taste! as an 18 year old - many times my outings include "social drinking" (obviously) so if im going to drink anything, might as well be beneficial? right!!?? plus i found hard liquer got me way to drunk, way to fast. i havent thrown up in over a year in a half... i no that may sound hilarious to some of u but ask someone else my age when the last time the "over did it a bit" and "threw up" ud be suprised. beer is good because it allows you to control yourself more i find... and also i drink molson canadian cold shots most of the time, which are 6.0% and small, so i dont get so bloated, even though i still do. i no this may sound bad also but i usually drink at least once a weekend... sometimes less if i have midterms/assignments.
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I think I will never go for it, no matter how beneficial it is.  I'm a teetotaler, have been all my adult life.  I've only ever had alcohol a few times when dad thought it was cute to give me beer as a child...and, I'm told, once when I was about 2 yo and mistook a bottle of vodka for a bottle of water.  I bet I was surprised!   Anyway, beer: it tastes awful (I remember from the last time dad encouraged me at age eight), and smells worse.

I can't imagine what the first brewers were thinking: "Gee, Ugg, this new drink didn't come out quite like I expected, but maybe if we keep drinking it anyway, it will start tasting better."  The rest is history!  I always chuckle when people explain that beer is an acquired taste, then I reply, "So the first time you tried it, you thought it was nasty, but you kept drinking it anyway?"

Ok, I'll stop haranguing the imbibers now...
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No problem Drive55. I've allways heard that 1 in 5 people get in serious trouble as a result of alcohol.If there was some way of screening people in advance it would save the world a lot of trouble. For the other 4 though a moderate rate of drinking( say 2 to 5 beers a week no more than 2 in any given night)seems to not be harmfull. One reason people may not like beer initially is the rotten mass produced american beers. Hmmm best not mention any particular brands and avoid law suits. Other people like my southern baptist family have doctrinal issues with it though a carefull reading of scripture basically and loosely translated says "don't be a habitual drunk and don't spend your families food and rent money on booze". Also since alcohol is a depressant, depressed people shouldn't drink in my opinion.
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Yet a few more good reasons why I don't drink GTG.  The most important one (which I didn't mention before) was doctrinal, but I didn't want to come off sounding preachy from the git-go.  I have a family and personal history of depression, and certain of my progenitors had difficulty moderating their alcohol intake, and I might also, if I ever started.  Throw in the candida right now, and beer is just not looking to good for me...

Edit: to say something positive about beer, my father had a heart attack years ago, and drinks a couple of beers now and then, and the Dr. said that they possibly helped him survive because of the blood-thinning effect of the alcohol.
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I always chuckle when people explain that beer is an acquired taste,


'turning up the volume' of those taste bud genes is what it is!! lol

my dad would let me take sips from his beer mug back in the 60s when we lived in Prague.....it was Pilzen alright, and very tasty!!


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Right Lola. Of course several things I like to eat like calf liver, brocolli, spinach, yogurt ect. don't appeal to young taste buds and are taste usually aquired as you mature. Fortunately I don't have any drunks in my ancestors and my interpretation of scripture allows moderate, not to excess beer and wine.
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My 23 yr old Nomad son was thrilled to see beer as a superfood for him.  He told all his friends that this was the diet for him.  As a mother, I feel it is my duty to remind him that the 2-4 servings per day refer to ALL the beverages on the list, not each one individually.  If he wants to lose his beer belly, then he needs to limit the amount of beer he is drinking.  

At least he eats way healthier than I did at his age.


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I think I will never go for it, no matter how beneficial it is.  I'm a teetotaler, have been all my adult life.  I've only ever had alcohol a few times when dad thought it was cute to give me beer as a child...and, I'm told, once when I was about 2 yo and mistook a bottle of vodka for a bottle of water.  I bet I was surprised!   Anyway, beer: it tastes awful (I remember from the last time dad encouraged me at age eight), and smells worse.

I can't imagine what the first brewers were thinking: "Gee, Ugg, this new drink didn't come out quite like I expected, but maybe if we keep drinking it anyway, it will start tasting better."  The rest is history!  I always chuckle when people explain that beer is an acquired taste, then I reply, "So the first time you tried it, you thought it was nasty, but you kept drinking it anyway?"

Ok, I'll stop haranguing the imbibers now...


I'm with you. A family friend let me try his beer when I was around 5...I tried another sip in my mid-20s and that was enough for me. That's the one bad thing about going to hockey games--everyone is drinking beer and the whole arena smells like vomit.

I had a similar experience with cigarettes around the same age but never tried them as an adult. Perhaps if we want to stop children from drinking and smoking, the key is to let them start in preschool or kindergarten!


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I'm with you. A family friend let me try his beer when I was around 5...I tried another sip in my mid-20s and that was enough for me. That's the one bad thing about going to hockey games--everyone is drinking beer and the whole arena smells like vomit.

I had a similar experience with cigarettes around the same age but never tried them as an adult. Perhaps if we want to stop children from drinking and smoking, the key is to let them start in preschool or kindergarten!


Nope wont work.

My Mother tried a cigarette with her girlfriend behind the garage when she was a kid and her older brother caught her.  She never had another cigarette again even though she was married to a heavy smoker.  In fact, none of her siblings smoked and all of their spouses, male & female, did.  My Mother also never drank even though my Father did.

My Mother thought since it worked for her, she would give me one of my Fathers cigarettes at age 12 and I would dislike it so much Id never start smoking.  It backfired.  I enjoyed it so much, that from that time on I would try to sneak a cigarette from my Dad.  I am only trying to stop smoking now because I know it is bad for my health and causes wrinkles.  I still enjoy walking through other peoples smoke.

When my son was a toddler, we went to a bridal shower.  The brides family never drank, so I did not think twice about letting my son drink the punch.  When I couldnt figure out what was wrong with my son because he couldnt walk straight, I found out the grooms side of the family spiked the punch with alcohol.  My son loved that punch.  




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It backfired.  I enjoyed it so much, that from that time on I would try to sneak a cigarette from my Dad.


It seems like most people are seriously turned off by cigs the first time they try them, but there are a few, like yourself, that aren't bothered by it.  Supposedly, that goes for snuff/chew also.
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Cigars give me soar throats.  But I love the tast of good, expensive, beer.  I'm from Wisconsin.  I won't drink the cheap stuff though.  Yuck.

Guiness would be good.  Leinenkugel's makes some wonderful tasting different blends too.  I'm not a real big foster's guy though.

I haven't had a beer in over a year and a half.  But I definitely will now.  But it won't be 3-4 a day.  I think he's misinterpreting.  I drink alot of Tea.  Herbals.  I think the 1 a week suggestion is good.  I may go that route.  Saturday afternoon or something like that.

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ABNoWay, no misinterpretion, beer and wine is under beverages, and it is:
Portion size: 6-8-ounces
Frequency: 2-4 servings a day




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ABNoWay, no misinterpretion, beer and wine is under beverages, and it is:
Portion size: 6-8-ounces
Frequency: 2-4 servings a day



There are more on that list than Beer.  If every other chart shows a diamond superfood, do you zero in on only one food and eat it exclusively?  If that's how you are interpreting it, then go for it.  I think balancing out with the other foods is what I'll do.  


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Like you ABNoWay, I do not take the alcoholic beverages to have the same frequency values as the other beverages.  But that is just my interpretation, of course.

And I am rather fond of my liver, too...  


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Heck I'm a Mormon & don't even drink at all, and even I'VE discovered the delicacy of fine beers!  lol as ironic as that sounds..

We like to drink the O'Doule's (non-alchy beer) once in a while because we want to feel "in" too, right...  but they're disgusting.  But my chef roommate and I cook a lot, and we made a roasted chicken with a bottle of Heineken one time.  We tasted the Heineken to see how it would compare to the O'Doule's, and WOW it was miles above the other stuff.  

I agree, the liver is something you want to take care of.  But I also feel like Dr. D is the 1st person I would trust in regards to taking care of my internals, and he wouldn't lead anyone awry


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