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lstreat
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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The white bean is a diamond superfood for warriors. But what white bean? Is it the white navy bean, white kidney bean or is it the white northern bean, or is it any of these white beans?   Anyone know  

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yes, white is white!!

the largest and roundest of the MARROW BEANS.

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When I look on-line, yes, any of these beans can be called white beans.

However, for the purpose of the GTD food lists, they do not seem to be any of these because white beans are a black dot for Nomads but great northern and navy beans are superfoods and cannelloni and kidney beans are black dots also. Most canned beans I've seen will specify the other common name for the bean (like garbanzo/chickpeas) so I would play it safe and only choose ones that are clearly identified.



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Thank you both for your replies. I guess any white bean will do for warriors.

As Kate4975 said not all "white beans" can be eaten by nomands so it's best to check your individual GTD food lists.

Laura  


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Beans, beans, beans. I have had a problem with these beans from the get-go and since that is part of the backbone of my protein on this diet, I take it very seriously. Is it really cannellini or cannelloni? - I have never seen a cannelloni bean in my life and don't really expect to where I live. I'm eating cannellini beans (with an I, in case no one noticed the difference in the spellings!) because that is what I have found. White beans don't exist here, either. Ordering on-line is crazy - how about $3.50 a can by the time you add postage?! And where do you suppose I'm going to find adzuki beans? I haven't tried fava beans yet, but my sister told me they tasted pretty nasty. I WILL try them, though, as soon as I find them......I do wish I lived near a Whole Foods.....But I do realize I'm on my own here, I WILL vent, though..... We warriors don't get a whole lot of sympathy about the fact that some of us are having problems with dairy (can only have it four times per week, anyway), there is NO meat and we can only have fish four times per week. So you see that leaves beans and nuts - what about all that fat in nuts?  Boy oh boy, how about SOYBEANS every day (no diamond)? That would try the patience of Job! Where is my armor, I think I am about ready to go to war about these beans! I'm doing all right now with pintos (no diamond), cannellini (don't know WHAT it is), butter beans (no diamond), navy beans (no diamond) and some soy products such as milk which is not even listed. But how long will it be before I get sick of eating this small variety? And, besides none of them are diamonds except possibly the soy milk, which I seriously doubt. We need some help, but I don't expect it, not for a while. I guess Warriors are just supposed to take it on the chin and keep on marching. Well I AM except for the taking without venting!
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Is it really cannellini or cannelloni? - I have never seen a cannelloni bean in my life and don't really expect to where I live.


I wondered about that too. I've only ever seen it spelled with an "i" also but I'll assume I can't have them either way!



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The only white beans I have ever seen in my region are navy beans and soup beans.  I grew up eating both of them when i was able to chew.  Maybe they were even mashed up before I had teeth.  They were a staple of our diet.
Around here they are still a staple of many person's diet.  Of course they have ham in them and served with cornbread.  It makes my mouth water just thinking about that...oh well...
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Spring (and this applies to lstreat too), you could use fish as a good protein source also.  Nuts do have a lot of fat/oil, but it's healthy fat, so I wouldn't be as concerned about that unless you start putting on weight from them (I'm jealous, y'all get PEANUTS as a SUPERFOOD!  so not fair.... )
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Spring (and this applies to lstreat too), you could use fish as a good protein source also.  Nuts do have a lot of fat/oil, but it's healthy fat, so I wouldn't be as concerned about that unless you start putting on weight from them (I'm jealous, y'all get PEANUTS as a SUPERFOOD!  so not fair.... )


Drive, I mentioned the fish (four times per week) in my post.  That amounts to two days' worth of eating. Then there is SOME dairy (only REAL yogurt at this point and it is not high in protein) that amounts to another two days. That leaves three days or six meals to be dealing with no-diamond beans.  I love peanuts too, but I haven't eaten them in a long time because of the mold or whatever that was a big scare back yonder. I am trusting Dr. D to be leading us on the straight and narrow allowing us to eat peanuts which I am. I do love nuts, but I do want to lose some weight. I feel great eating these beans, actually, reckon how good I would feel eating diamonds - pretty rich, huh?! I just had peas (diamond but low protein), mustard\greens mix, cantaloupe, onion, half a peach and a muffin (7+ grams protein). I feel stuffed! But the beans keep me from getting hungry for a longer period of time so I want more of them for that reason. But I don't want to get burned out on them, either, because of eating the same ones six meals a week. Sorry you can't have peanuts!
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Lola said "yes, white is white!! "

"the largest and roundest of the MARROW BEANS."

There is just white beans, they are grown in Europe, they are different then the beans we have in the US.

Spring I see you are in the southest, if you have a Food City store in your area they have the Fava Beans.

I get the White beans from a companty in North Carolina, you have to get them by the case, (24)They are $.99 per can,  sclafanifoods.com


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Spring, I guess we have to be more creative with our allowable foods. I'm having too much fish so I have to start including some beans and carbs in this equation. We can have 1/2 cup nuts and seeds 2x day and we can have 1/2 cup grains and cereals 2-3x day. It's time for us warriors to up the ante !  

BTW Cannelloni is a pasta so the bean is Cannellini. Enjoy !

Laura


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Superfood Vegetable proteins for Warriors include Lentils, Navy beans, Green string beans, Peanuts, Peas, Pinto beans, Soy beans and White beans, all of which are usually widely available in U. S. markets...  

With all of the soybean based foods included, I should really enjoy soy, but have never acquired a taste for it...  

I find them in the dry bean section or soup bean section of the stores... There are places on-line to buy bulk dried beans so you don't have to ship all of the water...



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Spring, I guess we have to be more creative with our allowable foods. I'm having too much fish so I have to start including some beans and carbs in this equation. We can have 1/2 cup nuts and seeds 2x day and we can have 1/2 cup grains and cereals 2-3x day. It's time for us warriors to up the ante !  

BTW Cannelloni is a pasta so the bean is Cannellini. Enjoy !

Laura


On the BTD I found white northern beans in a bulk food store in Melbourne, Australia and that was great, but now on the GTD I can have ordinary old navy beans, the most ubiquitous bean of all, and that is such a treat. Fava beans are the lovely broad bean, especially special when fresh, so look for it in spring. I will be planting my spring crop soon (it is summer here in Oz at the moment). As a dried bean it is spectacularly boring, but being a good one, could be slipped in small quantities into soups and stews.
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Drive, I mentioned the fish (four times per week) in my post.


Sorry, so you did.  I didn't read your post as carefully as I should have!
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I was once in an Italian restaurant where they made a white bean hummus.  It was placed
on the table with bread to be used instead of butter.  I asked the waiter what was in it.
White beans, cilantro, parsley, garlic, sea salt and olive oil.   Pretty easy to duplicate although
I'm not sure of the proportions. I've managed to make a fairly close replica by using drained
white beans from a can and adding just enough olive oil to give it a creamy consistency.  It
was delicious!  I found myself addicted to it!


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Spring, I can get you adzuki beans for cheap.  Would you like for me to mail you a couple of 1 lb. containers?  


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If it does not have a specific rating (cannellini, navy) then white is pretty much white. You don't need to look for something 'special'.

Quoted from Dr. D
"white beans" is just a generic for any beans of the haricot family. it is not as specific a name as the canelloni, navy, etc. but many people class all of these as 'white beans'.
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Quoted from LarryC.

There is just white beans, they are grown in Europe, they are different then the beans we have in the US.

I get the White beans from a companty in North Carolina, you have to get them by the case, (24)They are $.99 per can,  sclafanifoods.com


According to the website you gave these are just "Great Northern White Beans"

http://www.sclafanifoods.com/c.....d240b095977b99652c84

Do they have the info elsewhere as to why they are suppossed to be different?
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According to the website you gave these are just "Great Northern White Beans"

http://www.sclafanifoods.com/c.....d240b095977b99652c84

Do they have the info elsewhere as to why they are suppossed to be different?


Great northern beans are listed as a seperate food on the GTD.

Also read the post above yours.
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I was previously a vegetarian for five years, so I can sympathize. If you're on a budget, the cheapest way to enjoy beans is to cook them yourself. I find the recipes on the world's healthiest foods website are very reliable as far as making them turn out well. They have a suggestion to boil them (most kinds) for two minutes then let sit for two hours, then drain, then cook as usual. It works even better than leaving them for a day or two. They suggest putting lentils straight into boiling water instead of soaking- who knew, but it makes yummy dahl.
http://www.whfoods.com
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Superfood Vegetable proteins for Warriors include Lentils, Navy beans, Green string beans, Peanuts, Peas, Pinto beans, Soy beans and White beans, all of which are usually widely available in U. S. markets...  

With all of the soybean based foods included, I should really enjoy soy, but have never acquired a taste for it...  

I find them in the dry bean section or soup bean section of the stores... There are places on-line to buy bulk dried beans so you don't have to ship all of the water...


String beans have almost zip protein - 1 gram per serving, unless Dr. D expects us to eat a pot full at a time, that is not protein in my book. (How under the sun did this vegetable wind up on the PROTEIN list?!) Soy beans, IMO, are not fit to eat as a dish. I have soy milk (the plain stuff with NO carageenan - I found out a long time ago that stuff is poison!) and use soy flour, but I cannot tolerate soybeans in their original state. I've already explained the problem about white beans. They aren't available here. I'm no monkey, so it doesn't appeal to me to sit down to a plate of peanuts for lunch!   So that leaves four options for six meals per week for the rest of my life????? I'm sure that I have relied on protein considerably more than is ordinary during my lifetime because of this borderline hypoglycemia that runs in my family.  I came to have an absolute horror of those "weak spells." It isn't unusual for members of my family to literally pass out if they don't get enough protein. I am very active and just cannot tolerate going around feeling weak from lack of protein. You are probably not finding it difficult at all to pick up on my growing irritability and anxiety about this problem! Sorry about that. I hate to resort to turkey twice a week, but I may have to. It seems to be the least criminal of my options. But as you might suspect, it doesn't appeal to me anymore. One thing for sure, I can say this: Even though I get weak betimes, my stomach is not hurting forevermore on this diet, and I cannot remember when it didn't! I think it may have been since I was a child and that was a long time ago! One final note, I have been using NAP protein powder in a smoothie up to a couple of days ago to stave off the protein vacuum. But the number of carbs I'm consuming is unreal...... I even had peanut butter in my oatmeal to have more balance - it would be pitiful if it hadn't tasted so good!!
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I was previously a vegetarian for five years, so I can sympathize. If you're on a budget, the cheapest way to enjoy beans is to cook them yourself. I find the recipes on the world's healthiest foods website are very reliable as far as making them turn out well. They have a suggestion to boil them (most kinds) for two minutes then let sit for two hours, then drain, then cook as usual. It works even better than leaving them for a day or two. They suggest putting lentils straight into boiling water instead of soaking- who knew, but it makes yummy dahl.
http://www.whfoods.com


Thanks, much, for the website and suggestions. Man, I'm going to be cooking all the time at the rate I'm going. I'll have to make my own cottage cheese (got some organic milk tonight to try it - still may not be able to eat it). I did finally find a reliably good yogurt that isn't fake. It is actually cultured with NO added milk and\or cream. I'm already making all the bread. I guess I could cook up a batch of these beans and freeze them. Hey, I'm already getting excited about trying these healthy beans! Yikes, I wish I didn't have so many other things to do right now. I am sore all over from climbing ladders trying to get ready to paint. Patch and sand, patch and sand, ad nauseam.... I've been a steady companion to the caster oil bottle.

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HI,
In BC we can get white beans at any supermarket (dried). They are what we use to make baked beans. Heinz baked beans are made with white beans. They are little round beans. You must be able to get them at most supermarkets in the 'States 'cause didn't you people invent baked beans? How about in Boston?


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No matter where anyone else can buy these white beans, it isn't helping me because they are not to be found around here. Period. There are all kinds of other beans but not white beans.
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I was once in an Italian restaurant where they made a white bean hummus.  It was placed
on the table with bread to be used instead of butter.  I asked the waiter what was in it.
White beans, cilantro, parsley, garlic, sea salt and olive oil.   Pretty easy to duplicate although
I'm not sure of the proportions. I've managed to make a fairly close replica by using drained
white beans from a can and adding just enough olive oil to give it a creamy consistency.  It
was delicious!  I found myself addicted to it!


I can certainly see why - what a great idea!!!

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