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italybound
Thursday, February 14, 2008, 8:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Sambucol..


citric acid, glucose syrup and one even has sorbitol.

http://www.vitacost.com/produc.....cts&Ntt=sambucol

http://www.sambucol.com/



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citric acid, glucose syrup and one even has sorbitol.

http://www.vitacost.com/produc.....cts&Ntt=sambucol

http://www.sambucol.com/


I was just looking at the sources where I have bought Sambucol and none of them currently have Sambucol without sugar - but if enough people contact Nature's Way, no doubt they will have it available again ASAP. (Someone mentioned that it is a good substitute for brown sugar in different foods.) My advice to you is buy the caps, take one every day during the winter and up your intake at the first sneeze from someone around you. One cap in water, as I said, makes a nice tea if you have a sore throat. I have recommended this product to everyone I know, and they all take it. If a drug company owned the rights to elderberries, you would see ads everywhere you turned. It would be the best thing that ever hit the market since time began for colds, according to them, and the cost would be astronomical. Thank goodness, we can buy these little caps for nothing, practically, and be basically cold free. Another of my favorite supplements is cranberry caps for urinary problems. I have bought huge bottles of cranberry juice that got thrown in the trash after I got rid of any irritation because I can't stand the stuff. I don't have those problems much anymore but some people do and I have recommended the caps to them because they are so much cheaper than juice and you don't have the worries of spoiled juice in the fridge. They have worked wonders for many people I know. There are people, I'm sure, who love cranberry juice and possibly drink it every day, but I'm not one of them!

The wonderful thing to me about this type of supplement is that they are good for many different things. People ask me sometimes why I take certain things - the best answer is - EVERYTHING!!
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Sambucol.... Nature's Way.... One cap in water, as I said, makes a nice tea if you have a sore throat.)


still looks like alot of stuff I wouldn't want to take, but that's just me.     re: using the caps as tea.......are you talking about Nature's Way or NAP's? I opened one of NAP's once for my sick g'daughter and she said "that smells like throw up".    Guess I'll have to try it out for myself.  



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Ahem. Ah, Lola, I think I will pass on this one!
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I just bought Planetary Herbals elderberry extract, which is only aduterated with honey and grain alcohol.  It was terribly expensive, but at least it doesn't have fructose in it.  

Oh, how I wish they would make plain old herbal tinctures with nothing in them.  If I wanted them to taste nice I might dump it into some juice, but I certainly don't want other added sweeteners.  That's like several years ago I was looking for some infant tylenol (before I was completely convinced it was poison) and plain infant tylenol doesn't exist.  It's all got corn syrup and red food coloring in it.  


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I checked out the site and , guess what , raw elderberries are poisonous, too.


Just like kidney beans. Have to just cook them first before eating to destroy the toxin. I haven't been sick in  2 years since I drink elderberry tea regularly in the fall/winter. I buy it from Vitamin shoppe.  They're on line too vitaminshoppe.com.  I get elderberry jelly from Amazon. 6 jars for twenty bucks. Lasts the whole season.  I have a bush growing in my backyard but it didn't make berries. I tried to plant another elderberry variety but it died. I bought them from an online nursery...Raintreenursery.com. Park seed has elderberry plants.  One I ordered thrived and another one I ordered died on me. E.C.Kraus, wine making site, sells dried elderberries. I bought 2 packs and made elderberry syrup. My son wasn't impressed. Oh well, back to the jelly.
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... pokeweed berries are poisonous.  The leaves are edible, though.


Sorry, but the entire mature pokeweed plant is considered poisonous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed.

The only part that's commonly eaten is the spring shoots, and even those are parboiled in several changes of water before being eaten.



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I have used this Elederberry syrup to deal with colds ...

Contains:

Black Elder Berry Extract (1:1) with Vegetable glycerin, USP purified water, citric acid.


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I have used this Elederberry syrup to deal with colds ...
Containslack Elder Berry Extract (1:1) with Vegetable glycerin, USP purified water, citric acid.


  yea!!! thanks SO much for posting.    finally something w/o no junk!! I guess citric acid isn't considered junk for any B/T right?



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corn derived!


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Sorry, but the entire mature pokeweed plant is considered poisonous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed.

The only part that's commonly eaten is the spring shoots, and even those are parboiled in several changes of water before being eaten.


There is a very colorful letter posted on this website from a reader who knows all about pokeweed! She did a pretty good job of blowing the naysayers out of the water!

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/4986/herb31.htm#poke
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corn derived!


But not all citric acid is corn derived right? I think I'm going to call the company and ask. Could be about the same as the elderberry zinc lozenges I have if it is tho    Hopefully not.



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  yea!!! thanks SO much for posting.    finally something w/o no junk!! I guess citric acid isn't considered junk for any B/T right?


Elderberry tea has less junk that that syrup, ma'am.
It's just elderberries. Can't get any more pure than that.  
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Elderberry tea has less junk that that syrup, ma'am. It's just elderberries. Can't get any more pure than that.  


Good point!!     I assume you find that at your local HFS?



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I use both the NAP Proberry caps and Now liquid.


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I use both the NAP Proberry caps and Now liquid.


is this the Now brand that you use? If so, I guess you can have echinacea? (none for me)
http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?unique=b1251&catalog=yhst-50475351605673

the regular capsules are on sale for $8.25 (60 capsules - 500 mg each) at the same link listed above




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I dont see Echinacea on the list, did I miss it?  My local HFS is owned by Now.


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I dont see Echinacea on the list, did I miss it?  My local HFS is owned by Now.


Elderberry, Zinc & Echinacea Syrup is the only elderberry liquid I'm seeing. Am I missing something?  



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On our most recent road trip my husband stopped for some caffeine. He hates coffee, and he found some bottled unsweet tea that he said was gross, but did the job.  He chugged it down and within a few minutes started snorting and pulling on his ears.  "What's the matter?" I asked.  "I don't know," he said.  "It doesn't have corn syrup in it.  I checked.  But this is the beginning of my corn reaction."  I looked at the list of ingredients:  tea, water, citric acid.  Yep.  He slept terribly that night and woke up cranky.  Evil corn.  Citric acid, my foot.


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I looked at the list of ingredients:  tea, water, citric acid.  Yep.  He slept terribly that night and woke up cranky.  Evil corn.  Citric acid, my foot.


yep, but even tho it's corn derived I think it is still considered citric acid. Little fooler tho, huh?    And I agree w/ your sentiment. It shouldn't be allowed to be called citric acid. Doesn't that indicate it came from citrus? Huh?    FYI........yep, unfortunately, one of the 6 definitions of citric acid at dictionary.com, mentions being derived from corn syrup.  



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Good point!!     I assume you find that at your local HFS?


Yes. At Vitamin Shoppe.  It's by "Alvita" brand  
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