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 Did the calculator recommend BTD or GTD for you?
GTD -And I feel better on the GTD (30 votes)
38.96%
GTD - I feel about the same on both diets (13 votes)
16.88%
BTD -And I felt better when I was on the BTD (9 votes)
11.69%
GTD - But I have not yet tried the GTD (8 votes)
10.39%
BTD -And I have not tried the GTD (6 votes)
7.79%
BTD - But I feel better on the GTD (4 votes)
5.19%
BTD - I feel about the same on both diets (4 votes)
5.19%
GTD - But I felt better on the BTD (3 votes)
3.90%
Both bars look the same length - But I feel the GTD works better for me (0 votes)
0%
Both bars look the same length - But I feel the BTD works better for me (0 votes)
0%
77 Votes Total Last vote Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:28am by 794
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zola
Monday, January 28, 2008, 9:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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As a BTD Type A Non-Secretor, I feel that the GTD has found a lot of the missing links to health and balance for my type.


It is so pleasant to explore nature & oneself at the same time, doing violence neither to her nor to one's own spirit, but bringing both into balance in gentle, mutual interaction.

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DJ
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Thanks, ABJoe, I will try to track my grain/seed consumption more closely, I doubt it is the other super foods that are causing the problem. I tend to mix the "grains" in with veggies and meat which makes it a little harder to track. DJ
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Quoted from 2330
I don't think we can really come up with an accurate percentage at this point.  Are there more than two people on this board who can honestly say they have been 100% compliant with this diet for a month? I doubt it. For my part, I don't think a month comes close to determining all the if's and and's about a diet. But there are two things that we can bank on: 1) Some of us are going to be allergic, for now anyway, to one or more items on our super lists (even some with diamonds), and 2) We are going to be dealing with the release of toxins from our bodies for a while. I have been knowing for nearly thirty years that no matter what kind of diet a person is on to lose weight, there are going to be toxins exiting our bodies and causing all the stress they can in the process. I have had one person say that the GTD diet was not helping them - well, the truth of the matter was they hadn't actually been even marginally on the diet to start with and certainly not to its fullest scope. Just sticking a toe in for a few days won't cut it. It simply will not. As for as I can tell, beef is something that a Warrior could possibly eat once in a while without too much harm. Well, it would just about be the death of me if I attempted to eat a steak. Even vegetables cooked in beef stew broth absolutely will not digest in my stomach. I am TRYING to eat a few okay dairy products but I'm not sure this is going to work for me (but I haven't given up on it yet). Wheat bran is another iffy right now. But there are so many other foods to enjoy, how can we complain? I just had a great lunch that was all diamonds except cantaloupe, and it is a super. I was reacting to dog dander big time when I decided to stop the cleanup and eat lunch -- headache, ears stopping up, lower face tingling, aching all over, eyes burning and face flushing as if it were on fire. Now everything has calmed down except a faint burning in my eyes. Along with my super duper lunch I also slathered caster oil on my lower back. No more back pain. Amazing!


Please explain the reason why you chose castor oil as a solution for your back pain.



"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Spring
Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:01am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Chloe


Please explain the reason why you chose castor oil as a solution for your back pain.



Well, it is sort of a long story that goes back several years, but Google castor oil and that might partly explain why castor oil is my first choice when it comes to back pain and many other types of pain - shoulders, knees, feet, bruises and pain caused by nervous tension! The other part is that I know for a fact that it helps me better than anything else and has many other people too.  
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I kind of agree with the quote from Spring. I felt bad on the GTD and took the test, came up with BTD 80%. but I figured I haven't stayed on Explorer long enough to tell. So I'm going to tough it out on GTD for another month just to be sure.


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Lola
Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 3:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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DJ,
Welcome!

Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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RedLilac
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 2:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from 1784
  Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ


If it turns out that you are a non-secretor, then it is very important health wise.  Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.   When you know, then you can take preventative measures.

On the other hand, if you turn out to be a secretor, then you dont have to be so concerned and it doesnt make that much difference diet wise.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
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Novelia
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:56am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from RedLilac


If it turns out that you are a non-secretor, then it is very important health wise.  Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.   When you know, then you can take preventative measures.



I'm curious about which diseases you're referring to. 80% is a high number. Wow. I don't recall reading that in Dr. D's books or on his website, so I definitely want to know more because I'm a non-secretor.

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TJ
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 4:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Secretors are revised up to 85% in GTD!
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SquarePeg
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Quoted from RedLilac
Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.
I'm curious about which diseases you're referring to. 80% is a high number. Wow. I don't recall reading that in Dr. D's books or on his website, so I definitely want to know more because I'm a non-secretor.
I think it's mentioned in LR4YT.  I remember reading it somewhere.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Lola
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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non secretors represent 80 % of Dr Ds patients, at his clinic ......
is that what you mean?


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TJ
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Quoted from Lola
non secretors represent 80 % of Dr Ds patients, at his clinic ......
is that what you mean?


That makes sense, I suspect we are more likely to be written off by MDs as hypochondriacs, become frustrated with "normal" western medicine, and strike out into the unknown of alternative/nutritional/homeopathic therapy, what with our tendencies toward oversensitivity.
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Ribbit
Thursday, January 31, 2008, 1:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes, I expect that's the case.

I really can't tell a difference in how I feel on the BTD except I suppose I have a tidbit more energy.  Really hard to tell, and I'm VERY compliant with the GTD (I was with the BTD too, except I still eat black pepper occasionally).  But my skin looks extra terrible now.  I haven't decided  yet if it's the diet doing it or the "detox" doing it.  Either way, it's yucky and I'm tired of it.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

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That makes sense, I suspect we are more likely to be written off by MDs as hypochondriacs, become frustrated with "normal" western medicine, and strike out into the unknown of alternative/nutritional/homeopathic therapy, what with our tendencies toward oversensitivity.


Yes. I WISH I were making up my problems - that all I need is psychological work to have clear skin or whatever.  I hope Dr. D will offer more nonnie-geared GTD recommendations in the future, just like he did in LR4YT. I also wish there were more researchers looking at the problems that non-secretors face. Dr. D seems to be alone with that.

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Yeah, I guess we all have our Bad Doctor stories, some more than others.

Isn't the GTD already secretor status-oriented?  I mean, it takes into account secretor status when it categorizes you.


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Quoted from Ribbit
Isn't the GTD already secretor status-oriented?  I mean, it takes into account secretor status when it categorizes you.


Sort of.  But for some combinations of measurements secretors and non-secretors of the same blood type come out as the same genotype.


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This gave the percentages of non-secretors:  
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm

As to the diseases, when I first found out I was a non-secretor I did lots of Google searches.  Also there have been many threads in this forum about them.  I cant recall exactly where I read that the statement.  I think it may be what Lola said that stuck in my head.


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Quoted from apositive
... for some combinations of measurements secretors and non-secretors of the same blood type come out as the same genotype.


Also -- and I wish I knew whether this is significant or just a typo -- the book describes Teachers (p. 138 ) as "Secretor" (not "often" or "usually" -- just "Secretor").

Clearly, there are several paths in the Advanced Calculator Tables that lead a non-secretor to the "diagnosis" of Teacher.  But perhaps we are considered to be the exception?

In which case it'd be nice to know what's on the Teacher-nonnie diet!



Carol

A+ nonnie married to an A+ secretor
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The point in that GTD suits me better. The choice of foods 'makes more sense' to me. Foods I used to love became superfoods. My main problems are the exaggerated portions I am used to eat - a typical gatherer - and that I don't eat enough veggies. Now I am to admit how happy I am that lettuce and broccoli are not superfoods for me anymore! Good riddance!     That is, I continue to have lettuce, but it agrees with me so much more that it is neutral. The fennel bulbs are waiting in the fridge to be steamed...



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Quoted from yaeli
The point in that GTD suits me better. The choice of foods 'makes more sense' to me. Foods I used to love became superfoods. My main problems are the exaggerated portions I am used to eat - a typical gatherer - and that I don't eat enough veggies. Now I am to admit how happy I am that lettuce and broccoli are not superfoods for me anymore! Good riddance!     That is, I continue to have lettuce, but it agrees with me so much more that it is neutral. The fennel bulbs are waiting in the fridge to be steamed...



New Years Resolution... a little late, but never mind.
Next time I go shopping will carry a list of diamond foods only, and rigorously only buy those.




Eating half and exercising double.
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Quoted from Lloyd
I'm more curious by GT which diet is more suitable
My quiz results pointed overwhelmingly to GTD, based on about 3 yes answers, and yet I feel about the same as on BTD. On the other hand, the Warrior diet isn't that different from what I was doing before. Explorers seem to have the hardest time adjusting.

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