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 Did the calculator recommend BTD or GTD for you?
GTD -And I feel better on the GTD (30 votes)
38.96%
GTD - I feel about the same on both diets (13 votes)
16.88%
BTD -And I felt better when I was on the BTD (9 votes)
11.69%
GTD - But I have not yet tried the GTD (8 votes)
10.39%
BTD -And I have not tried the GTD (6 votes)
7.79%
BTD - But I feel better on the GTD (4 votes)
5.19%
BTD - I feel about the same on both diets (4 votes)
5.19%
GTD - But I felt better on the BTD (3 votes)
3.90%
Both bars look the same length - But I feel the GTD works better for me (0 votes)
0%
Both bars look the same length - But I feel the BTD works better for me (0 votes)
0%
77 Votes Total Last vote Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:28am by 794
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Lloyd
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm more curious by GT which diet is more suitable but decided to let this poll go for awhile first. Maybe both can be done if the polls are clearly delineated.
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AnutLisa
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That test was very helpful... especially for someone like me who is looking at it with a moderate amount of trepidation.  


Grace & Peace
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Chloe
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42% Teacher Rh+ N1, N1b
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I'm really happy for this survey giving me the answer I was
looking for. It's what I suspected all along.  The BTD is far better for me than the Genotype diet. And I'm glad I trusted my gut
instincts. The type A diet worked great.  And this is where I'll
stay.  Happily eating like a type A again~


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Carol the Dabbler
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from 1586
Can someone please repeat how to add genotype to profile?  I couldn't see where to do it.


It's in Edna's "Suggestion" sticky thread: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1199824036/



Carol

A+ nonnie married to an A+ secretor
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Kristin
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from RedLilac
OK Im confused.  I put a survey up by blood type, but my comments got added to the end of this one.  Is that because the surveys were similar?  I was curious by BT which diet seemed to suit the people.


I was going to vote in your poll RedLilac, and then it was gone so I thought you had deleted it.

You could try posting it again as it would be interesting to see the results per blood type.



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RedLilac
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI tweaked Explorer Super Taster from Illinois
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Quoted from Kristin


I was going to vote in your poll RedLilac, and then it was gone so I thought you had deleted it.

You could try posting it again as it would be interesting to see the results per blood type.



I'll try again, but if it doesn't work this time, I'll give up.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
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SquarePeg
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 8:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI GT4 Explorer 44%; Rh-; iNfP; nonnie?
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I've not been 100% compliant on either.  But I think the BTD benny beef is better for me than the GTD superfood turkey.  The latter makes me drowsy.  OTOH, I like the GTD recommendations of honey and maple syrup, because if I don't have something sweet, I occasionally binge on much worse foods!  And like the GTD recommends, I think I should cut out soy.  Maybe I am a nonnie?

I wish I could get sliced roast lamb at the deli instead of roast beef.  That would be great!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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jeanb
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 10:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am a hunter, but I am finding the BTD Nonnie diet works better for me.  I have tweaked the nonnie to absolutely no grain under any circumstances even brown rice gives me stomach pains and bloat.  The O non diet is limiting but works best for me.  

However, the teacher diet suits my A sec husband to a T. The O nonnie is the best route for my O nonnie son and the hunter is working really well for my O sec son.

Amazing that we are able to find the best diet for each of us and that we do have a choice....

I think my A sec - sister is a gatherer.  She has been eating a modified A for the past year (gatherer-like more protein, less carbs) and has lost 45 lbs so far.  
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AnutLisa
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Quoted from jeanb
I think my A sec - sister is a gatherer.  She has been eating a modified A for the past year (gatherer-like more protein, less carbs) and has lost 45 lbs so far.  


So it IS possible for an A to be a Gatherer?  I'm a "yes" on nearly every question of the Gatherer strength test, but knowing that I'm an A I should be either a teacher or a warrior.  I'm so confused.  I score SSOOOO low on those A tests.  


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mm134684
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i must admit now I'm a little confused now that I scored higher on the BTD..but I was justifying sticking with the GTD becuase I read how Dr. D prescribes his patients with the genotype diet..so I was thinking that I would still benefit from it...does anyone think I should go with the BTD? or should I kinda combine the two? since the calculator said btd does that make my gatherer foods not beneficial for me if they aren't on my blood type list..ahhh this calculator business made me a little confused now!!!
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Paula 0+
Sunday, January 27, 2008, 3:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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mm134684,
Listen to your body.  Give both a try and then do which ever works better.  I am leaning toward the btd, I have been eating the dairy for about 2 weeks, and I am so bloated.  I just think I do better on the btd....but I will still explore the gtd.  It's just that I have many hunter/explorer type things going on, while I do fit the gatherer the most.  By going back on the btd, I can return to a diet that includes most of the bennies from those genotypes....does that make sense?  
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Quoted Text
how to add genotype to profile?

go to member center, top here.......see left margin buttons there.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Novelia
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Quoted from AnutLisa


So it IS possible for an A to be a Gatherer?  I'm a "yes" on nearly every question of the Gatherer strength test, but knowing that I'm an A I should be either a teacher or a warrior.  I'm so confused.  I score SSOOOO low on those A tests.  


No, As can only be Teachers, Explorers (if they're non-secretors and or A-) or Warriors.
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teri
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I scored higher for GTD but only by a very slight margin. This basically reflects how I feel on both diets. I am choosing GTD because I think its a good thing that dairy has been limited, not that I notice any effect from it at all, it just coincides with what other ND's have told me. Other than the dairy, the diets are quite similar. At least they will be, on down the road.


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Gatherer, with a Teacher Husband
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At first I did not think I felt better, but now I think I do.  I can not blame the GTD because it is my birthday week and I am not following the GTD very well.  Even so, it has inspired me to limit my 'cheats' to less harmful foods.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Rh+Somewhere Between BTD+Warrior
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My score was based on 3 yes scores (rest no)
1.food allergies, 2. poor immune function, 3.thyroid.
My score was totally BTD
And although I've not tried switching to GTD...I'm happy to stay with that.


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Dr. D. has estimated that the genotype "diets will outperform anything out there, and at least in 70-80% of the cases, my own prior work."

Out of the 42 responses so far 24 reported improvement that they could feel (57%).

57% is a bit lower than the 70 - 80% that the Dadamo quote indicates, but 10 people (24%) indicated they could not feel a lot of difference and these people might still have benefits not noticed in the first month, for instance one would not know if it was preventing cancer 20 years from now. If we arbitarily assumed half of these people were benefitted by GTD and half were not we would get a total of 29 out of 42 (69%).

Out of the 42 reponses, 8 people felt they did better on the BTD (19%). This would be in line with the quote above that may indicate 20 - 30% of people might do better on the BTD. If we again combine with half the people who didd not feel a difference in the first month we have 13 out of 42 (31%)


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Remember most of us have known our own diets for only a month!
I'm sure things will improve with time!
S S & L,
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I don't think we can really come up with an accurate percentage at this point.  Are there more than two people on this board who can honestly say they have been 100% compliant with this diet for a month? I doubt it. For my part, I don't think a month comes close to determining all the if's and and's about a diet. But there are two things that we can bank on: 1) Some of us are going to be allergic, for now anyway, to one or more items on our super lists (even some with diamonds), and 2) We are going to be dealing with the release of toxins from our bodies for a while. I have been knowing for nearly thirty years that no matter what kind of diet a person is on to lose weight, there are going to be toxins exiting our bodies and causing all the stress they can in the process. I have had one person say that the GTD diet was not helping them - well, the truth of the matter was they hadn't actually been even marginally on the diet to start with and certainly not to its fullest scope. Just sticking a toe in for a few days won't cut it. It simply will not. As for as I can tell, beef is something that a Warrior could possibly eat once in a while without too much harm. Well, it would just about be the death of me if I attempted to eat a steak. Even vegetables cooked in beef stew broth absolutely will not digest in my stomach. I am TRYING to eat a few okay dairy products but I'm not sure this is going to work for me (but I haven't given up on it yet). Wheat bran is another iffy right now. But there are so many other foods to enjoy, how can we complain? I just had a great lunch that was all diamonds except cantaloupe, and it is a super. I was reacting to dog dander big time when I decided to stop the cleanup and eat lunch -- headache, ears stopping up, lower face tingling, aching all over, eyes burning and face flushing as if it were on fire. Now everything has calmed down except a faint burning in my eyes. Along with my super duper lunch I also slathered caster oil on my lower back. No more back pain. Amazing!
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Something that I am keeping in mind along with sticking as closely to the Warrior diet as possible with the allergies or whatever that I am dealing with, is this:  I only scored a 9 on the Warrior strength testing, whereas I scored a whopping 21 on Hunter and 24 on Nomad. This was pretty shocking to me, to say the least. I tested 9 on one other group and higher on all the rest. So I am looking forward to more books containing whatever information and direction Dr. D. is able to come up with. We don't want to drive the man to his grave trying to help us, though. There are only so many hours in a day! In the meantime, I am feeling better than I have in a LONG time 95% of the time. Now, back to this dog dander clean up.
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I haven't bought the GTD book yet... I think I'm going to go get it today.  One question, though:  it is  quite  clear on the BTD what we "are".. yet on the GTD there seem to be areas where one could  misinterpret or misread our own   "types"... so how  hard is it to  mess up and  think we are one thing when in fact we are another?  This reminds me of the auyervedic doshas with pitta, vade and kapha....
and what was that about finger measurments if one is O+??  is that a clear indicator of what one is?  I know I really need to just buy the book .  I'm going to  today.. but I am soooOoOo curious about this right now that I  thought I'd just ask!
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I feel slightly better on the GTD and I think it is a bit easier to be comnpliant with the frequency and portion sizes...  

The calculator said that the GTD would be somewhat better for me than the BTD, so not an overwhelming difference.  This is in line with my feelings so far.


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Hi, I'm new to the board although I've been lurking - messed up my registration and couldn't post for a while.  I just started converting from the BTD O secretor diet (I haven't done my secretor test yet - sitting on the bedside table - I followed the secretor diet based on the odds) but from what I could see from GTD, I could only be a Gatherer with one chance of being an explorer since I'm female, Type 0, and my index fingers are longer? I don't remember if one possibility of being an explorer  was based on being O negative or O positive or if it was based on other body measurements.  I strength tested just slightly higher for Gatherer than Explorer.  I have felt bloated since switching from BTD and my weight loss has slowed (I lost 22 pounds from mid Sept. to end of the year on the BTD with about 80% compliance and it seemed effortless) but then again, I have done what another poster mentioned, I've added the grains, millet, quinoi and teff at the expense of vegetables. I found a brand of crackers that seem Gatherer compliant and they have proved far to easy to grab when I'm slightly hungry -- at the expense of a proper meal.  I'm going to up my veggie consumption, drink more water and try to be more compliant before giving up on the GTD.  I'm not sure I've been eating enough - still struggle with that concept after years of starving on everything but low carb diets.  I really felt well when I was eating beef (naturally pastured, no additives) 4 or 5 times a week.  I'm going to start adding in more fish and turkey and see if I can tell a difference.  Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ
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I haven't bought the GTD book yet... I think I'm going to go get it today.  One question, though:  it is  quite  clear on the BTD what we "are".. yet on the GTD there seem to be areas where one could  misinterpret or misread our own   "types"... so how  hard is it to  mess up and  think we are one thing when in fact we are another?  This reminds me of the auyervedic doshas with pitta, vade and kapha....
and what was that about finger measurments if one is O+??  is that a clear indicator of what one is?  I know I really need to just buy the book .  I'm going to  today.. but I am soooOoOo curious about this right now that I  thought I'd just ask!


I thought the pictures/descriptions in the book were adequate to get good measurements.  Watch the videos if you need further clarification.  The tables are easy to follow once you have the measurements.  The strength testing is only necessary if you do not know blood type and Rh factor information.  Some types need to know Secretor status, but it didn't make a difference for me.  


RH-, ISTJ
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I have felt bloated since switching from BTD and my weight loss has slowed (I lost 22 pounds from mid Sept. to end of the year on the BTD with about 80% compliance and it seemed effortless) but then again, I have done what another poster mentioned, I've added the grains, millet, quinoi and teff at the expense of vegetables. I found a brand of crackers that seem Gatherer compliant and they have proved far to easy to grab when I'm slightly hungry -- at the expense of a proper meal.

Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ

I think it is very important to watch the portion size/frequencies to get the full benefit of the diet...  If you add, you need to add proportionately.  

The secretor test is important for determining some types in the GenoType diet, but is more stressed in LR4YT.  If you know your GenoType without the SEcretor information, and are going to stick with the GTD, you may not need to test kit...  If you may go back to BTD, the information will be helpful, but only if you stick to the portion frequencies...



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