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Drea
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At this point however, I gave the GTD three weeks, with no noticeable improvements, and only felt worse on it. Never had that problem with BTD. So I'm going back to what feels right, with a few new insights.


Taking responsibility for our own health is the best we can do; so if you feel better on the BTD, then by all means, do it. It's silly to be feeling bad eating a certain way when we could be feeling great eating another (imo).



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Several posts up someone said they suspect there are more GTs or many subgroups. I'm sure there are subgroups & maybe that's where the dots come in! It iwill be tough to completely be off all the dots for 3-6 months. At first I thought I could eat a dot I hadn't had for some time, so I had some cabbage the other day-the first time in ages! But I see to reprogram our genes, I would have to give up all the dots! Whew!

I'm hoping to be a hunter, but still need someone else to measure my torso, etc.
I made a list of the foods that were common to hunter & gatherer & find hunter easier. I can maintain the animal & veggie proteins, oils, drinks, etc. for both, but the fruits & veggies will be a pain if I prove to be a gatherer. At least the hunter can get some sweet potatoes or any rice for carb cravings, & I would only give up a few veggies, but boy, the gatherer gives little easy to get carbs & I would give up more beloved veggies & fruits. We will see.
Which is more harmful?--avoid animal proteins or fruits & veggies???? Or is it the lectin connection, which I suspect it is......
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Mercedes, I am curious as to why you decided to try the Geno diet. As I've said before I definitely was beginning to have some problems that were a puzzle to me, and I just simply couldn't figure out what they were. So the Geno diet came at a good time for me. I think eating chicken was the biggest problem but, also, I was not eating enough beans, etc. And most of the veggies I ate were either avoids or not diamond foods for me - and I was eating them because I thought they were the best for me, NOT that they were great favorites!!! To tell you the truth, at first I was much more interested in which supplements Dr. D was going to offer for this diet. I had no idea that making a few changes in the way I was eating would make such an absolute mind-boggling difference in the way I felt mentally and physically. If I were you, I would hang onto the "new insights," as you said, get back on the BTD, lose the weight you want to lose and see how things go for a while. If something comes up that rings a bell and you start thinking about trying the new approach again - albeit, with modifications, go for it! Now, go have a banana and enjoy it!   And think about me enjoying my lucious cantaloupe again after this looooong deprivation!!!!   BTW, we would still like to hear from you about how you're doing!
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mercedes, go for it, girl! Best of luck.
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The title of this thread interested me....
Anybody looked at the blog at the top of the page "Which diet system is best for you?"
I took the test and it told me BTD....kinda knew it
So perhaps anybody who is unsure about BTD or GTD could try the test.


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I tried GTD because I was getting serious about getting in shape again. LOVED BTD, thought, "hey, if this is the *NEW* research, the updated stuff, then I should feel even better/this should melt off the pounds" Obviously, that isn't the result I got. (Except a temp loss of 8lbs that was due to not eating enough food...)

If it wasn't that it was Dr. D's new diet, I wouldn't have even looked at it.

I just did the test... It said GTD. When I said no I don't want to lose weight, but kept all the others the same it was BTD. Alrighty then. I'm still sticking with BTD. I lost 30lbs on it, I'm sure I can lose the next 20 or so.
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I took the test and came up strongly GTD--and that makes sense for me. About a year or so ago, I was beginning to find that I felt better eating turkey and lamb over beef, and also needed to stop eating fruits like apples and blueberries because I stopped losing weight when I ate them. So this change is a good one for me.

Anyone who is confused about which food plan to follow, take the test in Dr. D's latest blog entry. (It's also up on the home page for the board.)

I love the BTD and am so glad we have it and the GTD to help us find healthy choices! We are blessed.


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I just did the test too and 4 to 1 it's in favour of the BTD for me, not the GTD! But even so I know that it's the *A Nonnie* diet from Live Right not the A diet from Eat Right that is better for me. The very vegetarian A diet compromises my health a lot.

Now I feel confused! lol. I had assumed that GenoType would come out ahead.
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It recommended the BTD for me, I only had a couple of 'yes' answers.  But I know the GTD is helping me a lot.  No question which one I am following.   The GTD is most definitely 'most suited to my needs'.  

Incidentally, the things that it is helping me with do not show up in the quiz.  Too specific and more fine tuning than what is probed at with the questions.  But no less impactful.


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I just took it & it said GT. I have cancer & vascular disease in my family, not alzheimers or arthritis. I have some chemical sensitivites. I don't age badly(but that's because I eat right! If I didn't, I think I would age badly.)I left thyroid blank. I take enough iodine/kelp, but if I didn't I might have that problem.
So, becuause I already made some improvememts, I may not have a proper reading.
What questions/answers relate to what diet? Is the BTD considered the beginning & if you have improved, you go to the GTD? Just because Alzheimers & arthritis don't run in my family doesn't mean I'm not prone to them. There are different environmental factors & I wasn't breastfed (altho I'm a La Leche fanatic myself!). I also used aluminum pans for some years, not knowing how bad they were.....
Dr. D, shed some light on this!
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I just went back & pressed all nos & it said too close to call
with no bars at the bottom.

Then I pressed all yeses & it said too close to call with the bars at the bottom at equal length.

I hope I'm  not in the doghouse!!!! Woof! Woof!


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I'm not noticing much difference yet but I'm still trying to figure out a varied meal plan (the ones on the GT site just don't make much sense for my life). I'm also still not sure about my husband's GT so I feel like I'm in a holding pattern until I can construct some meals around both our GTs and my daughter, who's an A. In the meantime, dinner is an actual meal but everything else is kind of snacking on the same foods each day with no real thought as to what time I'm eating or to food combining. I have noticed that I'm a little constipated, a problem I had before BTD but that greatly improved with the elimination of wheat. I haven't had many grains other than oat bran for breakfast most days and brown rice or pasta sometimes for lunch or dinner. I'm trying to figure out how to make bread with my compliant carbs so I can have more of those.

The questionnaire did direct me 100% to GTD though.


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Geno for me according to the test. Not surprised at all!
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I'm came in with the GTD, although I'm not surprised. Weight loss was the main issue that the BTD was just not helping me with (although it did help with a host of other issues).


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The GTD increased my backpain considerably. I stopped it a few days ago and am waiting for my pain to go back to 'normal' levels.
I read a few books on foods that cause pain, are neutral for pain and alleviate pains and I am going to incorporate these suggestions into the BTD (for example, I am going to avoid meat and eggs because they were found it to increase pain). Maybe this new way of eating will get rid of my pain entirely.
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I'm seeing candida mentioned here several times, and I figure I might as well ask something I've been wondering: is that what causes that yucky whitish coating on the back of my tongue?  I asked a Dr. about it years ago, who naturally brushed it off, claiming it was "normal".  I'd also heard that it's just little bits of food that stick to your tongue, but I seriously doubt that, since brushing it doesn't clear it away.

EDIT: I withdraw my question about the candida.  I'm so accustomed to the forum search not yielding any useful results that I didn't bother with it first, but then I had second thoughts and found a few useful threads anyway!

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Has anyone read Dr. D's blog today (1/25/0 and taken the test?  Mine came out that the GTD should be the best for me.  


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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For me, the test said that I would be better with the BTD. I wish the test had been available before I started the GTD - it would have saved me having really bad back pain when I followed the GTD. But I guess later is better than never.  
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2:1 for genotype being better here!

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Quoted from 2330
    And think about me enjoying my lucious cantaloupe again after this looooong deprivation!!!!   BTW, we would still like to hear from you about how you're doing!

And anchovy and cottage cheese, and navy beans and butter, and whole grain bread,and paw paw and  black tea and probably quite a few other neutrals that I haven't even realized yet.
Jenny, also drooling  




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After taking the test I came out stronger on the BTD side but Genotype was very close.I have been on Genotype for 4 days. I am a bit worried about losing too much weight. Am already underweight. Finding I am frequently hungry on the Genotype diet but will stick it for a bit.


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Nothing in life is certain... the best we can do is make our best calculations and try various things.  

In light of this, I would say that, even with the occasional, seeming glitches in the new GTD system, it's still light-years beyond any of the other diets and protocols out there.  Truly, it's a jungle out there; occasionally I stick my head out the door and I quickly poke my head back in, as soon as the arrows start whizzing by.

The BTD didn't target symptomatology enough for me... the BTD Encyclopedia gave me too many protocol options, and it took me a good, long while to figure out what my abnormally pressing problem was, health-wise.  

But GTD understands that my problem is inflammation, right off the bat.  I started to figure that out right before GTD came out, as I was taking glucosamine sulfate, cayenne, ginger, and Deflect to take the swelling down, but nothing has worked like the GTD diet, and its targeted anti-inflammatory approach for Hunters like myself.

I just purchased the Hunter 3-pack of supplements, as I've been very, very pleased with the new diet and set of supplements.  If the supplements work -- and I know that they will, as they contain the new protocol supplements already -- I'll be recommending those, too, to people.

I already have both my apartment managers who've purchased testing kits and supplements from NAP, and I've done their Genotype measuring myself.  Soon I'll be placing orders for their secretor tests, and they'll be wowed by the results.
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For me, the test said that I would be better with the BTD. I wish the test had been available before I started the GTD - it would have saved me having really bad back pain when I followed the GTD. But I guess later is better than never.  


That is very interesting!! After it said I would do better on the GTD, I tried to fool it. (I am ashamed to say) No matter what I said it said GTD.  I was beginning to think it would never say, BTD.  Praise God again for Dr. D!  He has really made it better for us again with the short quiz.  Guess I know which one to follow for me.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I just went back & pressed all nos & it said too close to call
with no bars at the bottom.

Then I pressed all yeses & it said too close to call with the bars at the bottom at equal length.

I hope I'm  not in the doghouse!!!! Woof! Woof!


I played with the yesses and nos too to try and figure out which
questions pushed me more towards Genotype and which ones
towards BTD.  If you don't check you need to lose weight,
you're going to be pushed towards the BTD.  Arthritis is
going to push you towards the BTD as is chemical sensitivities.
I'm not really very overweight. I'm more sensitive, allergic
and achy from specific foods.  This is why the BTD was better for me than the Genotype diet. The Warrior diet contained too many inflammatory choices like dairy, chocolate, coffee, citrus
and didn't give me adequate detoxing supplements.  Both
diets are great, it's just a matter of finding the one that suits
you more perfectly.  For me, it's absolutely the type A diet
minus poultry, dairy, eggs & coffee.



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chloe, I'm glad you found the right way for you.
I am sure my test would say GTD. now I'll go take it ...report back later.
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