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northstar
Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 4:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi all,

Well I have measured and remeasured my legs several times.
The lower legs are slightly longer.(That is if you use the middle of the crease of the upper leg as shown in the book and video.) So as A+ that would makeme a Warrior. I do not mind because I am basically following a diet similar to the Warrior right now. I had infertility and hormone problems. But, yes there is a "but". My gene pool is pretty mixed up. I am sure it is the same for many of you.

On my mother's side there is Russian and German. On my father's
side there is French Canadian, Native American, (East?)European Jewish and we think also Irish or English blood. Whew!
This explains for example why I keloid (scar tissue) and no one
else directly in my family does. According to the geneticist you can inherit anything from 7 generations back and your genes can affect the next 7 generations (assuming you have kids).

Now, you may wonder why I am rambling here but it leads to a point I wish to make. My strength test shows I am more Explorer: left index finger has whorl and right one a loop.From what I can see, four out of five match and most are loops and I think the baby fingers are arches. I have a square jaw and broad head. I can tolerate small amounts of coffee but avoid drinking it at night. (When I am stressed my heart races and I have trouble destressing. The Chinese herbal specialist says that is the first symptom of "karoshi", death by overwork!) I tried drinking coffee as a test last night and my heart kept racing all night. Could be as a Warrior I had trouble relaxing and destressing. I had gallstones and had my gallbladder removed. There is a high incidence of cancer and some heart disease/stroke in my family. I have not done the PROP test, but generally do not like bitter tasting anything.

So, the point of all this is I think I could be a combination of two types. Afterall, if one "A"  and one "B" parent can produce "AB" bloodtype, would it not make sense we would have many variations and combinations of the GTDs?

Guess nobody wants to hear that, but just wondering....

This is probably a question for Dr. D. But I welcome feedback.
Meanwhile, I am going to search for my Warrior friends and stick to the Warrior diet for now.

So, I am wondering what anyone else out there thinks....


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Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 4:56am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You might want to read this, it will answer your questions:

http://www.dadamo.com/wordpress/?p=94
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Lloyd, ya beat me to it!  

http://www.dadamo.com/wordpress/?p=94  :-)

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northstar
Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 5:06am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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This explains alot. Thanks for posting this.

Well, I do not regret posting my comments, I am sure there
are others out there who have not read the post by Dr. D.
So, I guess Warrior it is!


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Nothing to lose by trying it.  You can join me being a reluctant, tentative Warrior.  I wanted to put under my shield "Warrior on the Losing Side," but my husband said, "No, you can't say that.  You're not a loser."  I said, "Well, then I'll put, 'Pacifist Warrior'."  He said, "No real pacifist carries a pistol in their purse."  I said, "Well, how about 'Peaceful Warrior'?"  He said, "You've got too much umph in you to call yourself peaceful."  So I decided, taking into account my non-warrior temperament (apparently evident "umph" notwithstanding) and measuring up only partially with the GTD book list, that I'd just be a reluctant, tentative Warrior.


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Quoted from Ribbit
Nothing to lose by trying it.  You can join me being a reluctant, tentative Warrior.  I wanted to put under my shield "Warrior on the Losing Side," but my husband said, "No, you can't say that.  You're not a loser."  I said, "Well, then I'll put, 'Pacifist Warrior'."  He said, "No real pacifist carries a pistol in their purse."  I said, "Well, how about 'Peaceful Warrior'?"  He said, "You've got too much umph in you to call yourself peaceful."  So I decided, taking into account my non-warrior temperament (apparently evident "umph" notwithstanding) and measuring up only partially with the GTD book list, that I'd just be a reluctant, tentative Warrior.


I am totally in agreement with everyone who finds themselves stymied trying to type themselves.

I have taken the best foods in all the diets groups that type A could be..(EXplorer, Warrior and Teacher) and have chosen those foods with the highest antioxidants and decided I'd eat more of those.
Foods like acai berry, goji berry, and any vegetables or fruits that aren't in opposition with
a type A blood type.  So far in two days, the Explorer supplements work best for me. I've
felt the best on stuff like NAG, artichoke, milk thistle, garlic, turmeric, green tea, dandelion
and other supplements that are good for detoxing.  Regardless of my genotype, detoxing
supplements are helpful for me.  I actually feel better physically when I take these supplements.  AND I'm going to try it this way. Regardless of what type I really might be,
at this point, I just want to feel well.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Is it mostly As who are having trouble fitting easily into a category?  


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Quoted from Ribbit
Nothing to lose by trying it.  You can join me being a reluctant, tentative Warrior.  I wanted to put under my shield "Warrior on the Losing Side," but my husband said, "No, you can't say that.  You're not a loser."  I said, "Well, then I'll put, 'Pacifist Warrior'."  He said, "No real pacifist carries a pistol in their purse."  I said, "Well, how about 'Peaceful Warrior'?"  He said, "You've got too much umph in you to call yourself peaceful."  So I decided, taking into account my non-warrior temperament (apparently evident "umph" notwithstanding) and measuring up only partially with the GTD book list, that I'd just be a reluctant, tentative Warrior.


The Warrior term refers to the fact that this was a "settled" genotype with homes and loved ones to defend. Think of the movie Braveheart: you're a Scot, not a Brit. Sure, you fight, but it's for the noble cause of protecting what matters to you (probably why you carry a gun in your purse).  



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*peaceful sigh* Oh, yes, Kate.  You are right.  I'm not going to go make war, but if anybody comes near one of my children they'd better be ready to meet their Maker.

I am a Scot.  It's where we come from, and everybody in my family for generations back (on my mom's side)---EVERYBODY---is mean, to hear my grandmother tell it.  Hm.  Maybe I'm a Warrior after all.

I love "Braveheart."  And bagpipe music is "da bomb" as PT would say.  I can listen to it all day with tears in my eyes.  I go around whistling "Scotland the Brave."   It goes deep.  Real, real deep.


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"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Oh, that bagpipe music!  It melts my heart every time, and brings tears to my eyes also.



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*peaceful sigh* Oh, yes, Kate.  You are right.  I'm not going to go make war, but if anybody comes near one of my children they'd better be ready to meet their Maker.

I am a Scot.  It's where we come from, and everybody in my family for generations back (on my mom's side)---EVERYBODY---is mean, to hear my grandmother tell it.  Hm.  Maybe I'm a Warrior after all.

I love "Braveheart."  And bagpipe music is "da bomb" as PT would say.  I can listen to it all day with tears in my eyes.  I go around whistling "Scotland the Brave."   It goes deep.  Real, real deep.


I'm a sucker for bagpipe music too. I'm not Scottish but I dated a Scotsman once. He was a jerk but I loved to listen to him speak.

Maybe you could change your info to "Warrior...on the defensive".



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Maybe you could change your info to "Warrior...on the defensive".

Or "WARRIOR..... THE DEFENDER"
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In the book, Dr. D commented that maybe warriors would be better described as "war survivors".
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I AM A SURVIVOR IN A VERY TRUE SENSE OF THE WORD.  Thanks for the ideas, everybody.


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Quoted from Ribbit
Is it mostly As who are having trouble fitting easily into a category?  


I'll admit I am a gatherer, but I feel more like an expluntherer...
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Hi All,

Thanks for all the feedback.
Feel better about being a Warrior now. Actually doing quite well on the diet. I have no more gas and bloating. With all
the white lines on my fingers, I am sure I am wheat intolerant.

I believe my dad has either Scottish or Irish blood in him. I think I will pull out my Braveheart DVD and watch it again.
By the way, is anyone signed up for the Dr.Ds Genotype Diet on the Net. I wonder what people think of the site. I do not see any trial period. I am curious but not ready to commit untill I
get some feedback.

Also, is there a Warrior site or are they all in hiding?


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Hi All,

Thanks for all the feedback.
Feel better about being a Warrior now. Actually doing quite well on the diet. I have no more gas and bloating. With all
the white lines on my fingers, I am sure I am wheat intolerant.

I believe my dad has either Scottish or Irish blood in him. I think I will pull out my Braveheart DVD and watch it again.
By the way, is anyone signed up for the Dr.Ds Genotype Diet on the Net. I wonder what people think of the site. I do not see any trial period. I am curious but not ready to commit untill I
get some feedback.

Also, is there a Warrior site or are they all in hiding?


I joined the site but will cancel before the first 13 weeks are up. I hadn't gotten the book yet and was too impatient to wait in order to find my type. I also wanted to get some recipe ideas (but they have to be checked for accuracy). It's a little too diet-focused for me and the book is, of course, far more comprehensive. The bulletin board for Nomads has been pretty sparse because everyone's still over here so I don't feel I need the costly site for support either.


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Thanks Kate4975,

I noticed the ads tend to lean towards losing weight which is NOT my priority. I think I'll wait till I get more feedback and the site has had time to develop. I enjoy the Forum and am
getting alot of feedback from everyone, so there is no hurry.



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Quoted from northstar

Also, is there a Warrior site or are they all in hiding?


They're all lying in wait.


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*peaceful sigh* Oh, yes, Kate.  You are right.  I'm not going to go make war, but if anybody comes near one of my children they'd better be ready to meet their Maker.

I am a Scot.  It's where we come from, and everybody in my family for generations back (on my mom's side)---EVERYBODY---is mean, to hear my grandmother tell it.  Hm.  Maybe I'm a Warrior after all.

I love "Braveheart."  And bagpipe music is "da bomb" as PT would say.  I can listen to it all day with tears in my eyes.  I go around whistling "Scotland the Brave."   It goes deep.  Real, real deep.

Me too Ribbit. the closest any of my genes come to having been born in Scotland was about 6 generations ago, but that is still my preferred sub culture: I play Scottish fiddle a bit, dress up in my hostess skirt (long kilt)and generally get quite sentimental about it all.It is such a strong culture to have survived being so dispersed - what do they say?--the diaspora.I am a Peaceful Warrior because I hate violence of any kind, but like you I would do anything to protect my children,
"My blessings be yours! Is there Scotsman ava
Wad stan' by and see ony harm on ye fa'?" (the Thistle of Scotland)so I just imagine myself standing firm, arms folded, looking severe as required, and thus spurning any attackers by mental energy alone.




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Maybe Warriors should be called Defenders. I don't know a lot of Scots, but like them, too. Scotland is way too far north for me, but lousy weather does make for stronger folks.
As much as I like hot weather, being outside so much of the year & being more mobile probably leads to more mischief! I can bet the crime rate is higher is hot climates! Sorry!

About the GTD site. I waited till 1/15 to join. I wanted to be sure of my type & settled on hunter. Still I have my doubts. The message board has grown since I have been on. I am happy to see folks from other places than BTD, but see a lot of familiar 'faces' some with the same names & some with differnt ones. It is exciting to be able to encourage others in their search for good health. I am happy to be on. When April 14 rolls around, I'll have to reassess what I will do. But in this long winter, I'll have something useful to do & I'm enjoying it!!!!!!!!
Cheerio friends,
Mrs "T"   O+ [hunting, gatherering, & exploring facts--defending the BTD/GTD-teaching by experience.....]
PS You are able to post on all GT message boards to offer your encouragement. It's really fun.


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Scotland is way too far north for me, but lousy weather does make for stronger folks.


Okay, I grew up in the Chicago area and I find the winters in Alaska to be more bearable than Illinois'!



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I believe you! The weather can be very changeable here & dreary.  The mess & dreariness can be worse than the temperature.  Of course the wind is horrible.
They say that Juneau, Alaska has similar weather as Chicago because of the sea. I assume that is true. Maybe the weather is actually better!
Most of my childhood was about 170 miles south of Chicago. It is remarkably much warmer there with an equal balance of hot & cold weather. I never can completely adjust to the weather here, but there are those from hot climates who do. Go figure.
Sea Salt & Light,
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I should hang fire for the time being with regard to the web site.  There is quite a way to go before it is functioning properly - lots of errors in the composition of the menus and a lot of avoids where they shouldn't be.  They are working on it and it is improving but the only thing I use at the moment is the message board.  It certainly can't hold a candle to  this site.
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Well, friends, this thread was originally about GTD combinations of 2 or more types. I was hoping to be a hunter, & seemed to have more hunter characteristics & how I reacted to certain foods. However, my son just dropped by & measured me. It seems my height & torso sitting, etc puts me an inch or 2 into gatherer...... I sat up really straight..
I measured my height which put me at 64 inches & I know I am 63 inches as I shrunk slightly since about age 50.
I do love vegetables & this will be more difficult. I also had been eating lots of bananas as they were plentiful, cheap,& sweetened my plain chocolate. I also had gotten into one of the Lara Bars which use dates as the sweetener.
The meats & starches of all kinds are doable. I bought some basmati rice the other day & can transition into that. I just boiled a batch of big beets, neutral for hunters & dots for gatherers! My metabolism seems more hunter. If I am active, the weight goes off. If I am sedentary, it goes on. Remember, I have shared before that all of age 58, I was 130# & eating 3,000 calories a day! They were lots of meat, veggies, fruit, & olive oil, & I was a little more active than now. That doesn't sound like gatherer. Over the years, I've given up some beloved foods(esp. potatoes, W W pasta, etc.), so I'm looking for some loopholes!!  Hee Hee!!!!  I know that in allergies, according to conventional medicne, the protein in the food affects the person. Is that true for BTD or GTD?
Fruits & veggies have only traces of protein.
Well friends, we can wait for the SWAMI to come out. I still picture a guy with a turban when I hear the word Swami, kind of like a Sikh. What do the initials stand for?
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+  [gathering goodies, but still in the hunt!]


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