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Peppermint Twist
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I don't worry about other grains, quinoa, millet, etc. they are usually produced more exclusively from wheat than oats, and easier to distinguish with the naked eye.  Wheat and oats are harder to tell apart, if you have the whole grains you may be able to pick out the wheats in there, but I'm not sure I could.  They're often grown in rotation in the same fields.  If I weren't gluten sensitive, I probably wouldn't worry about it, I'd just pick the better brands (better than Quaker, which I know got me sick once long ago).

So I buy GF oats, eat them in very modest amounts, and don't worry about the other grains.

Thanks for this post, Melissa.  It really helps to hear the experience of someone with celiac.

I am really getting an education about oats being contaminated with wheat gluten, which before last Friday, I had no earthly clue about.  I had no clue from any other planet, either.  In short, I was clueless.  I'm glad to know that other grains are not as affected, if affected at all.  I can rest a lot easier with that knowledge!  As for oats, I think I will just relegate them back to "avoid" status for me, soooooooo reluctantly.  Gosh, it was nice while it lasted, but I REALLY don't want any wheat gluten in my life.  Cue Dana Carvey as Bush I:  Not gonna do it.  Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.  Na ga da.



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I made some oatmeal cookies this weekend, that used oats and oat flour.  Both my dh and I had
problems from them.  I remember trying to make them with compliant ingredients, but we both
had intestinal problems that are finally starting to clear up.  Don't think I will do that again.  Next time we have the urge for a dessert, I may do a flourless dark chocolate thing, mainly eggs and dark
chocolate, or almond based cookies.....but for now, no dessert.....
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If you haven't eaten oats for a while, the usual advice is to take it slow -- oats have a *lot* of fiber, so eat just a small amount at first, then increase slowly while your digestive tract gets used to it.  I believe this is especially important for anyone who has been avoiding whole wheat, which is another especially high-fiber food.


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followup:  Guys, I figured out what I saw that was $11.99:  it was gluten-free oats but NOT by Bob's Red Mill.  All the other oat varieties that my HFS has are Bob's Red Mill, but they don't have the Bob's Red Mill gluten-free, they only have this other, terribly expensive brand, which is called something like "Nature's ...something".  Anyway, too rich for my blood.  How sad, as I am an oatmeal fan.  Brig, they had one Bob's Red Mill variety called something like "Scotch Oats", fyi.  It appeared to me that they were ground up, versus rolled.

Anyway...unless and until the price of the gluten-free oats comes waaaaaaaaay down, I'm not partaking.  Did I mention my mortgage is going up by $60.00 per month due to my homeowner's insurance dropping me and everyone in Florida and my agent finding me new insurance that is going up by 500 or 600 bucks this year, to a grand total of something like $2,111 per year?  Florida:  not for the fainthearted.  Anyway, so between that and trying to dig out of debt from the extreme vet bills of this past year or so (which totalled about 7k, but I'm only in debt about 1k), and everything that needs fixing up with the house that didn't get done in 2007 due to same, I don't have $11.99 to spend on oatmeal.  Na ga da.

It was a nice few days getting reaquainted with oats before I found out about the gluten contamination.    Oh well.  Easy come, easy go.


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Thanks for the heads-up sib I have the Scotch oats from Bob's Red Mill. They are delicious and also work well in cookie recipes. I'm going to use them up and then switch over to a gluten-free brand, though. I've noticed a few muted gluten reactions from using BRM oat flour and rolled oats. If I still get the reactions from using gluten-free oats, then they will go back to special-occasion status. *sigh* It'll be tough, but having oatcakes isn't worth the lasting damage and erosion of healing even a minimal gluten contamination would cause.

I think the best way to go for me is to get a Soyabella and grind my own seeds and small grains and use GF oats and flour.


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist
... this O nonnie Gatherer has decided, albiet very reluctantly, to give up oatmeal (again!) until I can afford the gluten-free kind.  It simply isn't worth "toxing" with the wheat gluten, when I'm working so hard to "detox" via the Gatherer diet.  Because if the gluten gets on there, which is bad enough, what's to stop a lectin or three from sneaking aboard?


In the course of going gluten-free, I have done a WHOLE lot of reading and thinking about the many, many ways that desirable foods can be contaminated by undesirable foods.  My advice is that you focus on eating your GenoType's Superfoods, and don't worry about contamination unless you believe that you have an actual sensitivity or severe allergy.  Otherwise, you could drive yourself nuts, while accomplishing little or nothing.

Did you know there's probably wheat in your shampoo?  In envelope glue?  Did you ever stop to think what happens in the back room of the health-food store, when one worker is refilling the bulk dried-apricot bin and another worker two feet away is refilling the bulk wheat-flour bin?  (Hint: Air-current-bourne flour dust meets sticky apricots.)

The wheat that you might accidentally ingest from all such sources over the course of a year would probably amount to less than one oyster cracker.  Not worth your sanity.



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Quoted from Carol the Dabbler
Did you know there's probably wheat in your shampoo?  In envelope glue?

Actually, I buy wheat-free shampoo, but even if the shampoo had wheat in it (and you are right, so many of them do), you aren't eating that, you are using it topically.  I would imagine eating oats that have some wheat gluten (and other wheat components) on them would result in far more of a reaction as any amount that could absorb in transdermally from the shampoo.  As far as envelope glue, I don't lick 'em.  I use a bit of whatever water I have handy.  Envelope glue has got to be nasty, nasty stuff.

Anyway, I'm with Brig:  however much I enjoy oats, and however many beneficial properties they have (and I think they have many), if I can't get gluten-free/wheat-free, it's not worth it.  Although you do have a point that probably many foods are pretty chummy with wheat or equipment that processes wheat, not just oats.  ...Basically, I'm glad I don't have celiac disease.  Melissa, I don't know how you navigate through the minefield, and I applaud you for doing so!



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