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 Gatherers and weight - are you...?
trying to lose weight (122 votes)
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ruthiegirl
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Welcome Kiki!! I suggest you get your secretor status tested. If it turns out that you're a non-secretor, you'll probably be able to eat avocado again.

I usually use lemon or lime juice in place of vinegar in any recipe.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from ruthiegirl
Welcome Kiki!! I suggest you get your secretor status tested. If it turns out that you're a non-secretor, you'll probably be able to eat avocado again.

I usually use lemon or lime juice in place of vinegar in any recipe.



Thanks for the welcome!!!!  I will have to get the test done!  Do non-secretors get more foods in general or less?  I have been using lemon and lime in place of white vinegars, but I LOVE balsalmic, and I will try to eventually phase it out....

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It will not be about more foods but more foods good for your type..

all is a step in the right direction..

Geno still changes again what we know but all makes some sense..  

Those items that where avoid always in all books, they ought to be off limit, but if avocado is good sometimes and avoid at other times then I would cheat with those items rather then the total avoids.

I got oranges and apples as a neutral.. shocking after decades of them being avoid..   I still will avoid them, unless it is a real urgent food to need at all coast!


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To lose weight, incorporate more fresh raw vegetable juices esp first thing in the morning, fresh raw salad, fresh fruit; in other words, the foods which are living and contain enzymes which our body needs - also some sunflower sprouts, mung bean sprouts, broccoli sprouts.  Also, exercise is best between 5 and 7am which in Chinese philosophy is 'Time of Transformation' or between 6am and 10am which is kapha time (Ayurvedic philopshy). the weight should come off easily.  Try not to eat after around 5 or 6pm, this allows digestive organs and glands to rest and regenerate at night during sleep.
The body needs greens, as we share most of the same genes with the chimpanzee - what do they eat? lots of fresh leafy greens, fresh fruit and a small amount of insects/bark.  Humans may have lost their way thanks to misinformation, too much cooked/baked foods esp the starches, flour products, sweeteners, process and packaged product, and the dreaded legumes and soy products.
Keep it simple, eat fresh living foods, moderate portions and maybe do a regular 24 hour fast, juice fast for a few weeks, then a water fast.  supplements not necessary if you make your own vegetable juices at  home which are live with enzymes, and easy to digest.
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kitari
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So aussielady do you eat meat, poultry, and fish raw? Are you on the BTD or GTD?
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Hello Kitari,  at present, I am not eating meat, poultry and fish at all.  I used to eat a little raw salmon in a sushi roll occasionaly, but these days, I am a type O, who is mostly raw vegetarian eater - focusing more on live fresh foods and juices; this means fresh lemon juice in water around 6am, a fresh vegetable juice first thing for breaky with soaked seeds and or nuts;  lunch is a salad with land vegetables like spinach and other root vegetables, a little sea veg and some whole food fat like tahini, almond butter, avocado or olives.  I may make a small fresh veg juice just before the salad.  Last meal of the day is another fresh juice of say - beet juice/fennel/cucumber/apple/celery to support the kidneys and other organs/glands followed by some fresh fruit.  I will either have some grain like oats or sprouted break at this time or some raw organic goat milk. Maybe some fresh cream over my fruit with a sprinkle of spice like ground cumin, cardamom, cinnamon, tumeric. and a little honey is my sweetener used, I have reduced my intake of other sweeteners, after some thought and reading. I hardly eat any cooked or baked foods, nor desserts/sweets at present as am trying to improve my health and digestive function.
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So - eating as an A then?
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The key is to figure out what works best for you personally. Some do best with intermittent fasting (IF)which basically means eating only one or two meals a day and fasting for several hours every single day. I've tried that and felt weak and miserable. I'm doing much better eating frequent, small meals- and when I'm energized, I'm able to exercise. Time will tell if I lose weight this way.

The raw juicing is working well for aussielady, but I know it wouldn't work for me.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I was told for years to eat more oils, and it made no difference...

Then.. finally... I read to take a spoon of oil and feel satisfied for 3 hours.  I am able to chose the oil or food or a snack the way I read about it in the  Shangri-la diet and found my key to my satisfaction I never had before. 'I' stop the constant wanting, the pain under my left rib, and the decades long straining in the bathroom. (took 2 month)

I talk here of 'choosing' every day.. current time-frame.

Nothing food wise needed to change, just exchanging the oil for snacks. The rules are simple, yet if I do not take the oil I quickly succumb to 'hunger'pangs, or cravings for avoids and lose 'satisfaction and quiet peace in my head.. The missing piece in the BTD puzzle for me.

As for other means to nourish a body.. to each his or her own..  so long as we have good info, we can make choices. So long as we are willing to try and be truthful about the choices we make - what more would you wish for?  





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Exactly !  I started 4 weeks ago with the premise to take Cod Liver Oil everytime I was hungry.  I did this 2x a day then ate a nutritional meal.  

It worked !! ( for me ) It gave me the push I needed to get on track.  I am an O+ gatherer and got every book written by Dr. D.  It fits me perfectly.  

I still take the CLO in the a.m. then 3 very simple meals throughout the day.  I also worked in 30 minutes a day on the treadmill..I feel absolutely great !
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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hello Everyone!

This is my first post! I decided to post now because I saw DebinOH made her first post earlier today, and decided it was time for me to speak up too!   -  I am 40lb overweight.


I'm an out and out Gatherer - what I mean by that is that on page 90 of GTD, penultimate paragraph, Dr D. says,

..."Unlike the Basic Calculator, which asks you to strength-test four possible GT's, the Intermediate Calculator narrows the possible choices down to two candidates, and in special circumstances will even specify a single, winning GT"....

Me = Gatherer at page 90 - hooray! -  Fling myself immediately and totally into wheat, corn, potato, coffee, sugar, milk, candy, soy-free zone over the past 3 weeks - I feel FANTASTIC and I've lost 10lb, I'm SO pleased.

Yes, I've had mild "Low carb flu" symptoms as my body adjusts, mostly in the afternoons and evenings - I embrace it as part of the healing.

I've stuck to the book as Lola's signature says, I've treadmilled my 2-3 miles brisk walking everyday bar 2. I've made sure to do my warm-up and down lengthening stretches. I also do the Hunter nostril breathing technique for cortisol levels. Everyday it gets easier and therefore more enjoyable...

I treadmill listening to Audiobooks or music (depending on my mood), for me, it's best in the early morning, AFTER I've had a cup of tea, slice of watermelon or grapefruit segments, had a bowel movement and welcomed the day!

I'm so energised then, that I can have my breakfast and supplements - here's my favourite breakfast recipe: -

Quinoa (diamond) - I cup of cooked (has to be al dente, not soggy, overcooked, water-logged)
Raw RED onion (superfood) - up to 1 cup chopped finely (test for pungency -  can be very strong)
Raw ripe, washed, room temp tomatoes seeds in (diamond)  - 1 cup (or more) diced small
Handful chopped fresh parsley (diamond) - don't be mean a good handful!
Toasted pumpkin seeds (diamond) - generous sprinkle
EVOO (diamond) - liberal drizzle all over
Balsamic vinegar (neutral) - carefully balanced drizzle
Sea Salt (superfood) - liberal sprinkle

To me, this is sunshine in a bowl, SO yummy, great colours, great flavours...

That's me for now, will post again soon and look forward to replies / comments / questions etc

Ta Ta for now

Carla


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Very AWESOME, Carla...  
It is good to see new people embrace this lifestyle for their good health.
As you've seen, it isn't always roses, but the results are wonderful - and keep getting better.


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Quoted from aussielady582
Hello Kitari,  at present, I am not eating meat, poultry and fish at all.  I used to eat a little raw salmon in a sushi roll occasionaly, but these days, I am a type O, who is mostly raw vegetarian eater - focusing more on live fresh foods and juices;...

While this may feel great and be doing well for you at the moment, only rarely can a Type O eat vegetarian long-term without negative health consequences...


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welcome carla!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quinoa (diamond) - I cup of cooked (has to be al dente, not soggy, overcooked, water-logged)
Raw RED onion (superfood) - up to 1 cup chopped finely (test for pungency -  can be very strong)
Raw ripe, washed, room temp tomatoes seeds in (diamond)  - 1 cup (or more) diced small
Handful chopped fresh parsley (diamond) - don't be mean a good handful!
Toasted pumpkin seeds (diamond) - generous sprinkle
EVOO (diamond) - liberal drizzle all over
Balsamic vinegar (neutral) - carefully balanced drizzle
Sea Salt (superfood) - liberal sprinkle


I am blown away..  Not making judgement, yet asking , this is every morning?

Welcome.. and keep up whatever works to drop the extra pounds.  go to the end. do not stop.. fab!


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Thanks ABJoe, Lola and Goldie for the warm welcome

I thought I had set up the RSS feed to alert me when new posts were made here, but clearly not, so sorry for the delay in responding..

Goldie - yes, I do if the sun is shining and I fancy a cold breakfast.  - For the past two days the weather has been cold and rainy, so instead I had basmati rice cooked with the indian curry spices, onions, currants, toasted flaked almonds and toasted pumpkin seeds with fresh cilantro and sea salt - YUMMY! I don't have a sweet tooth at all, and prior to 1 month ago, if you had shown me a pack of potato chips, I would've shown you an empty packet!! Oh yes...

I now eat the grain carbs ONLY at breakfast, and I now do so BEFORE I do my 4 mile walk on the treadmill - I'm working on the principles of (a) metabolic cooking and (b) food combining.

(a) The first is to immediately work of the carbs just consumed, rather than burn lean muscle tissue by exercising on a relatively empty stomach.

(b) I know Dr D doesn't really advocate food combining as the BTD/GTD does that intrinsically. But I AM a fat pig who needs to lose weight and at the top of GTD page 183 (I love you Lola   ) :-

..."8. Try not to combine starches and proteins. Good food combining (eating meats with high-fibre veg and carbs by themselves) enhances the transit time of the meal through the gut, which lowers the demands on the immune cells that line the digestive tract. Decreasing the workload of the immune system in the gut increases its ability to function efficiently, which decreases inflammation. Don't stress over it, but if your plate looks like good food combining, smile and pat yourself on the back."

What do you think guys?...

Carla


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Carla, above all, love and respect yourself.....never forget you are the most important part in your life....

That said, take it one day at a time, plan ahead, stay focused, let go off your burden.....
practice positive reinforcement

have you done the initial test?

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp


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Hi Lola,

Thanks for your wise words - please let me re-assure you that I do really love and respect myself - it must have been my British tongue-in-cheek sense of humour getting the better of me when I referred to myself as a fat pig!!! (tee hee) Ooops, I did it again!!

I mentioned you after the comment because every time I feel a waiver coming on, I think of your auto-signature, which is a quote from Dr. D...and it helps...

Yes I have done the initial test, and it says GTD, and I am an out-and-out Gatherer - and am REALLY enjoying the diet. On Weds it'll be 4 weeks, and so far I have lost 12lbs, so I'm not complaining...far from it.

On 13th August I am donating blood for the first time, so will find out my Rh+/- status. When I hit a plateau after that I'll do the Secretor test, and the plateau after that, I'll do a SWAMI express. I'm doing 4 of the Supplements already and want to try the O Deflect next time I order - I don't want to do it all at the starting line because I won't be able to tell which has the most impact for me.

I've also been doing a lot of reading on the site, and I have a couple of questions, but I'll post those in the relevant Threads soon (One is about Transdermal Magnesium and the other about Mackerel).

Thanks again for your support (I'm being rushed to take the dogs on their afternoon hike so must dash for now).

Carla


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good to know!

here are past threads on TM http://www.bing.com/search?cp=.....q1=site%3Adadamo.com


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