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 Gatherers and weight - are you...?
trying to lose weight (122 votes)
87.77%
happy with your weight (12 votes)
8.63%
trying to gain weight (5 votes)
3.60%
139 Votes Total Last vote Friday, March 14, 2014, 7:50pm by noraines
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Ellie
Friday, February 22, 2008, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I felt fat when I was in primary school (I started putting on weight when I was 7 - when i started developing) but when i see the odd picture of myself now, i feel i was smaller than i thought (just bigger than others maybe, & compared myself to my younger sister, who seemed dainty & elegant - daft I know). My weight has fluctuated over the years, but BTD was about trying to be healthy for me. Now it seems the GTD may be helping my body shift a bit of weight naturally. last night i realised my bra strap was loose when i took it off, & today i have been able to do it up on the tightest setting instead of the loosest (and it's still comfortable) I shall be seeing if it applies to my other bras too. For me it is about feeling healthy, i would like mainly to lose some weight around my stomach. I have been able to do more walking in the last few weeks which helps too. I would hope I can maintain the weight loss & keep on losing more. Oestregen dominance definitely a factor for me.


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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Caz B
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I was very slim as a child, also very active.  When I hit puberty around 14yrs I filled out slightly but in all the right places, still very active.  When I was 17 I put on about 10-12kgs I think due to the fact I was starting work and very inactive.  Then started exercising again and lost weight but have struggled a little to keep it down ever since.  After having children have remained unfit and inactive and am close to 20kg overweight.  

I am sure that if I can start to exercise and follow at least the basic principles of the GTD that I will start to lose the weight.  It's just the sometimes overwhelming fatigue and embarrassment that are holding me back (I love to swim but dread being seen in a swimsuit)

I am also not used to taking the time for myself, have been an at-home mum for 13yrs and used to putting the children and housework first    Hope this site will motivate me enough to get cracking  


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I d register in the GTD site to get a kick start!


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Quoted from Caz B
I was very slim as a child, also very active.  When I hit puberty around 14yrs I filled out slightly but in all the right places, still very active.  When I was 17 I put on about 10-12kgs I think due to the fact I was starting work and very inactive.  Then started exercising again and lost weight but have struggled a little to keep it down ever since.  After having children have remained unfit and inactive and am close to 20kg overweight.  
I am sure that if I can start to exercise and follow at least the basic principles of the GTD that I will start to lose the weight.  It's just the sometimes overwhelming fatigue and embarrassment that are holding me back (I love to swim but dread being seen in a swimsuit) Understand how you feel..maybe if you could start some exercises at home - walking with the kids, after school ??!! Or get together with a friend & walk - nothing like the motivation of not letting a buddy down, to get you out there... Goodluck!!
I am also not used to taking the time for myself, have been an at-home mum for 13yrs and used to putting the children and housework first    Hope this site will motivate me enough to get cracking   It's sure to!! Lots of support here Have you seen the thread on weight loss? Also, I found doing an active job, I had no choice but to lose weight as I was on the move so much...(I put some back on once I stopped) Is that an option for you?? Merchandiser's jobs (putting out stock in supermarkets) are usually easy to pick up

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Mohairandsilk
Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:18am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Weight is not the main problem for me, but I could feel better with less kilog on my legs of course ! (even when a child, I had big legs... so I am used to...)
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diffy
Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Photos of myself as a kid reveal a balanced view of my body, but then as I hit puberty at around 14 I began gaining weight. I'm five ft, four and a half inches. I was a size 10 at most;
When my first child was born I topped the scales (post-pregnancy) at about 150-160 and dress size 14! That was a bit too much for me to bear. If I recall correctly (going back 15-16 years ago) I made a deliberate attempt to cut out sugar from my diet and I believe I did cut out much of it, but not all.
Breastfeeding my baby helped me lose a lot of weight.
After the next baby I ate a ton of food and still managed to lose weight. Seems there was a metabolic shift within me...
After my third baby was born, same thing....nursed him for 3 years and the weight kept falling off of me...I couldn't keep up...I was consuming a jarful of peanut butter a week just to keep myself from losing more weight....

Since then, the only time I've gained a lot of weight was  when I got onto psychiatric drugs. The weight came on very rapidly and took forever to lose....

I only began to lose it when I got onto thyroid meds. However, because the dose was too high I lost a lot of weight. I am now on a lower dose and hopefully the weight will come back on.

I feel so ridiculous saying that I want to gain weight when so many people out there are desperately wanting to lose it...



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Thursday, November 12, 2009, 5:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Diffy- we all individuals- don't feel bad because you don't have the same battle as some of us do-we each have our own-plus we all have one thing in common-the desire to improve our health. Enjoy the journey.
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Rh- Expluntherer... It means I'm an O...;-)
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Diffy - as I was reading your "I was consuming a jarful of peanut butter a week just to keep myself from losing more weight...." I'm thinking... thyroid condition..."
And ditto to sue's comments...
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battle dwarf
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i was never a then kid but i was never over weight ether. i was what most people around here call "stocky" dinamite comes in small pakages also seemed to cover it. i was a very active kid. as soon as i had my bowl of wheaties (i never like suger) i was off for the day into the woods, i would be back at dinner time for beef strfry on white rice.
when i hit puberty i went from stocky boy to "you'll never pass for a boy with that shape" overnight. so fast i even had strech marks from the new hour glass but i never had that nice flat tummy.
when i got married i gained forty pounds the first year and ten more each year after. he wanted to eat out alot and there was more more corn, wheat, dairy, and shellfish than i had ever eaten in my life. from an 8 to a 16 practicly over night was horrifying, i was twice the woman i used to be and it was not a good thing. there were emotional facters to that merrage that did not help eather becuse i could not go outside any more. i changed my life in more than one way when i got rid of him and found bt almost the same year. lost 25 pounds the first year. lost a dress size last year and i hope to do so again this year. my goal is that size 8 i started at. i was happy there even if i never had that nice flat tummy  


nothing to do? who has that!?
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Gatherer!
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Interesting:  the majority of Gatherer's who are either OK with their weight or are trying to gain weight are NON-SECRETORS~

I wonder if there is something there....


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jetsgirl15
Saturday, April 16, 2011, 2:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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This poll is very interesting. Myself, I have struggled with my weight since I was 14.  Came from a big italian family: lots of pasta, bread and cheese!  Wish I had kinown then what I know now!  Who knew I was eating myself fat?? Anyway I reached my heaviest point last year at 240. (yikes!) Then I went vegan and getting rid of the dairy really helped. I lost about 50 pounds, but never felt really great. then the weight loss just stopped.  Recently came across GTD and everything fell into place.  Since starting the gatherer diet 8 weeks ago I have lost 17 more pounds and now weigh 173 and still losing!  Feel so much better without the wheat and corn and with the addition of meat back into my diet.! No more bloating, gas, cramping etc. It's like you finally figure out who you really are! Can't thank Dr. D enough!  Am really enjoying this journey! Next up, getting tested for secretor status.  
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dancergirl
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I am trying to working on, losing 60 lbs.  I am 5'10"  and weighed 125lbs until I had my first child at 32.
I just found out I am a gatherer and have to say I am pretty disappointed that I have thrifty genes. I feel like it is going to make it so much harder. Trying not to focus on that. I really resonated with where he says appetite control can be an issue for gatherers. I have had a pretty ravenous appetite my entire life, which was fine when I weighed 125, but not fine at 190. In college in my first nutrition class, we did a diet diary and plugged everything into a software program and I was eating around 3500 calories a day and almost 40% of it was fat.
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Someone that I'm close to is a Gatherer.  He was a slim man until he reached mid 50's.  Then suddenly weight became somewhat of a problem.  A very stressful period in his life triggered a quick weight gain of 20 pounds or so, that is coming off more slowly.



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Sahara
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I'm an ectomorphic skinny-fat:  5'1", body fat never goes below 17% no matter how much I exercise.  I was a tiny kid, like many of you the weight stuff started at 13-14; I weighed 97, then 110, then by the time I was a freshman in highschool 120.  Ive been exercising & dieting since 1987 trying to deal with it.  Was a vegan in college, total disaster.  Since 2001 have done some bt O stuff, more meat, less wheat etc.  In mid 2000s I started exercising more but underate......have never been willing to do what Dr. D says---- always so afraid of weight gain.  I burned o a few years ago & started to develop insulin resistance again.  This past Feb. I added dairy foods & oat bran, more meat & raw vwgetables& voila, I started losing body fat.  I just checked back on btd board about 10 days ago & saw genotype so of course I had to figure mine out.  Im an O & too short to be a Hunter, Explorer does not describe me.  Whoa kind of blown away.  I'm.40 & in perimenopause, was all prepared to get fat.  Guess Im not going to.  Happy!  What a genius Dr. D is.
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Lola
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welcome!


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SandrAruba
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Quoted from diffy
I only began to lose it when I got onto thyroid meds. However, because the dose was too high I lost a lot of weight. I am now on a lower dose and hopefully the weight will come back on.


Gosh, I wish I could go on a higher dosage and drop the weight and when it's gone go back to the normal dosage. Unfortunately I get a lot of other issues when I am to high in dosage, like no sleeping...  

Wanna trade? I'll give you some of my overweight to compensate your underweight.  

But seriously, don't feel bad about wanting to gain weight. It's a struggle no matter which way you want to go, up or down. Too much is not healthy, but not enough isn't either.




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Patty H
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Ok, so I'm kind of confused here.  I thought the poll was for Gatherers, but I see a lot of Hunters responding and a lot of people who do not know their genotype or they have not put it on their avatar and a lot of people who have Hunter in their avatar but say they are following the Gatherer diet.    I did not respond to the poll because I am a Hunter, not a Gatherer.  Maybe I am wrong?  Either way, it has been good for me to see the difference in some of the O's and adding the B's into the mix.

Diffy, you sound more like a hunter.  Sahara, hunters can be short.  I am a hunter, as is Lola.  We are both very short.  My genotype was done at Dr. D's clinic in Wilton, CT, by Dr. Nash, so I know for sure that Hunters can be short.  I don't have a weight problem, but I did for 7 years, from age 18 -25.  Terrible time in my life    I do work hard to keep the weight off, though!

The reason this thread interests me so much is that my daughter is a gatherer.  She is 23 and is not on the diet, and refuses to even try it.  She has struggled with weight since just before puberty.  Although she struggles with weight, she has a great body image and I am grateful for that!  

I think my husband must be a gatherer, too, although his legs are more andric than gynic.  He is a bit of a puzzle.  He works out all the time, hard, so maybe that changes his body.  My husband has struggled with weight his entire life.  If he did not work out hard, he would definitely be much heavier than he is now.  He could lose some weight, but maybe 5 - 15 pounds.  He has a very stocky build - short and stocky.  Back a few years, his mother made a comment about him being overweight and I went to his defense.  He does have a stocky build, but he works out and is very muscular and has a pretty flat stomach, particularly compared to most men his age.  He will never look like an ectomorph or skinny.  He looks short, stocky and muscular.  Her image of him was the fat, little boy he was and I think that is often his body image, too.

I find it really interesting that my husband is in much better shape than my daughter, yet he has a bad body image and she has a good body image.  I try to help him with his body image, but old habits and beliefs die hard.  He and she both fit the Gatherer motto, too!


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ruthiegirl
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Patty, this thread has been here for a while. A lot of people have changed Genotype over time, especially since the advent of SWAMI software. People re-measured and found out they'd been following the wrong genotype, or SWAMI labeled them something else even though the Advanced Calculator in the GTD book said Gatherer.

A lot of people may have posted on this thread when they thought they were Gatherers, then later discovered that they're Hunters or Nomads or gave up on GTD and are just following BTD, etc. When you change your shield, it changes it for ALL your posts on the board, even the ones you made years ago.


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Patty H
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Quoted from ruthiegirl
Patty, this thread has been here for a while. A lot of people have changed Genotype over time, especially since the advent of SWAMI software. People re-measured and found out they'd been following the wrong genotype, or SWAMI labeled them something else even though the Advanced Calculator in the GTD book said Gatherer.

A lot of people may have posted on this thread when they thought they were Gatherers, then later discovered that they're Hunters or Nomads or gave up on GTD and are just following BTD, etc. When you change your shield, it changes it for ALL your posts on the board, even the ones you made years ago.


Got it!  I got really confused . . . thanks for the explanation    It is really a great thread and helped me a lot, now that I am pretty sure I am living with two Gatherers.


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From the book, I am a Gatherer. But, checking out this thread makes me question it. I do have to do the secretor test as I am assuming that I am a non-secretor as I fit the description to a tee. I sound very much like Diffy - small boned, thin (too thin right now and should post on how to put on a bit of weight). I think I may look thinner than what I am as my upper body is rather slight and lower body is rather average but the skinny arms make people think I am starving myself which is far from it. I have to say, I haven't tried the GTD as I am afraid to leave the BTD as I am using the arthritis edition and I think I will mess myself up since I question that I am true Gatherer as I didn't fit the physical type according to description. Even before my diet I could eat a lot (not healthy either) and keep the weight down to a comfortable size (6-.
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If you're doing well on BTD, then I'd suggest sticking with that. If you want to fine-tune things later, consider getting SWAMI (computer program that calculates a diet just for you, taking into account blood type,  genotype, and your health history.)  The GTD book is a wonderful resource and explains things in much greater detail than the SWAMI printout does, but you may not benefit from following the diet straight from the book.

When you let SWAMI calculate your genotype (you enter in all the measuremetns and such you needed for the calculators in the book) it often comes up with something other than what the book says. And then, whatever genotype label it starts with, it will further customize the diet, incorporating some BTD values as well.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I'm finally getting SWAMI-ed by a friend this week. I wouldn't be surprised if I turn out to be a mix of "Explatherer" given my current weight; 197. I like collecting things (even if it's just written articles of stuff on the internet) bucolically relaxing, cocooning in my own home,  just as much as I like traveling and exploring. My skinniest was 118 when I was anorexic.(age 23)


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How tall are you Seraffa? I just checked out what 118 was in stones/kilos & realised my lightest at 21 was 126 lbs (9 stone) or 57 kgs!!
I got back down to 66kg's (145.5) at age 38 by living at the gym & barely eating, but it was unsustainable & once I stopped working out 24/7 I never stayed that low
I had gradually crept back to 78kgs (171.6lbs or around 12 stone) by 10 years ago!! At 5'5" I'd actually be happy at 12 stone 170lbs again (having always been solid even as a kid - 11 stone in yr 4 high school) but like you I am a little (well a good) way off that atm
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At 5'2" I'd be happy back down to 150lb and really felt good at that weight.  I'll never have a barbie doll body and realize that now.


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I went to the doctor today and my thyroid (I'm hypo) is off again, so maybe when medication is adjusted that will help me out.  I  have been working out and following diet about 85% compliant and haven't lost any weight in two months.  Doctor thinks maybe b/c of my thyroid being off again.  We'll see, here's to hoping and keeping up the work!
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