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 Gatherers and weight - are you...?
trying to lose weight (122 votes)
87.77%
happy with your weight (12 votes)
8.63%
trying to gain weight (5 votes)
3.60%
139 Votes Total Last vote Friday, March 14, 2014, 7:50pm by noraines
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Squirrel
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 4:56am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

ex-Gatherer, ex-SWAMI - plain old O-nonnie
Autumn: Harvest, success.
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Gender: Female
Location: UK
Age: 45
I'm interested.

Gatherers are supposed to have weight issues, but I don't and never have. OK so when I started the BTD a year ago I was heavier than I am now, but that was mainly for medical reasons.

Am I the only one here?


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Sunday, January 20, 2008, 5:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

A 'Hunter' working on a relaxing into farm life.
Ee Dan
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Location: Green Acres Farm, Fielding, Utah
Age: 43
no you are not the only one I am not worried about the weight so much as the inches and muscle tone. WhenI stopped exercising  my body's metabolism slowed and I gained weight getting back my stamina is the hardest thing. If I cna keep exercising and ramp it up with superfoods. I am using a pure egg white protein powder and will add back the lo carb designer protein in 6 months. It is being impatient while waiting for the time to pass. While I am trying to decrease my circumference and change my body composition, I am also keeping mind that I have an event to train for, Hunting season, I need to be able to keep up with my husband and climb big hills and go long distances. We'll see how I do the last time I went I really sucked wind. We'll see how things go. I just want to be in better shape and fit some of the really nice clothing I have in my closet.


'And some of us would die-so other men can stand up on their feet like men. A great many are going to die for that. They have in the past. They will a hundred years from now-two hundred. God grant there will always be men good enough.(James Otis)' Johnny Tremain (Forbes)

Freedom is not free!
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Curious
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 5:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ee Dan
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Great question, I am happy with my weight and I have never ever had weight issues.
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Paula 0+
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 5:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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No, I am about 15-20lbs more than comfortable.   After I had my 5 children, I started having thyroid problems, then had it worked on through conventional medicine.   After that the weight steadily
increased.  Could be the thyroid problem, or menopausal issues.  But I'd really like to lose this.
I must say that most of my family of origin have weight problems, and it settles around our waists,
including my dad, my sisters, and 2 of my brothers.  Only my mom and my brother, a retired marine, seemed to stay at a reasonable weight most of their lives.  I believe we have blood sugar problems, and depression problems.  So anyway, trying to follow this diet to see if I can make some headway.....
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jayneeo
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 6:23am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
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Age: 67
ok, I have been overweight ever since I had children....pregnancy weight never went all the way down...maybe would've happened anyway....was never overweight as a child. have lost some on various diets, but here I am needing to lose 30 lbs. Again.
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lakes-lady68
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 8:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ee Dan
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I'm carrying around 30lbs, post baby weight that I struggled to lose, it's moving now I'm on GTD, and I feel a lot better.  The allergies are subsiding and I feel less 'bloated' which has got to help.

  


GT2 Gatherer
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"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be"
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kipperkid
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 9:42am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

55% Gatherer, ISTJ, Reactor worldview
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Location: Just north of London, England
Age: 57
basically been overweight since mid childhood    Did once get down to the very top of the so-called 'normal' range but couldn't maintain it.  I wonder now how much damage I did myself getting there  


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Jo999
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 9:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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This is an interesting poll.

I have always been overweight - since about 22yrs of age anyway.  My direct family on mums side also struggle with weight issues.

I started with the BTD diet about a month ago and saw some improvements, however I have now been doing GTD for less than a week and have already seen the backache I have had for 3 months disappear almost overnight!!

I too am now not bloated and I have loads more energy - and now my back ache has gone I can get back to the gym too.


Jo
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geminisue
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 1:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMIED Rh+ G2-Gatherer
Sam Dan
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I have been over weight since about six years old. I was always the heaviest girl in the school. At graduation I was 170, looked good to older men, but young adults my own age, I was the biggest. Through many things that went on in my life, birth of three children, marriage ending, health going bad, I have to admit that BTD is the food plan that made my weight come off, and know I'm moving on the the GTD been on it 100%since Friday morning, on Saturday when I weighed- I lost three pounds, on Sunday, today 7 more pounds = 10 lbs in 48 hours.  I did hurt for a few days when I was introducing dairy back in, but if I skip a day or two between I am fine.  I am excited about all of this, learning and remembering what I need to know to successfully lose all the weight I need to.
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Victoria
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 10:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
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All O's are posting here and I find that interesting.  Any B Gatherers?



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Brighid45
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 10:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

INFJ
Kyosha Nim
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Age: 55
I've been overweight (and now obese) for most of my life, with a few periods of lower weight due to various reasons. The BTD has worked for me, helped me lose weight very slowly and steadily, but more important, it's helped me find healing--a process still in progress, but taking another step forward with the GTD.


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drgnwng1
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 10:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh+ Gatherer
Autumn: Harvest, success.
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Gender: Female
Location: Western MA
Age: 58
As an Adult I have been under a 100 pounds and over 200lbs.
Currently the higher  


0+ Gatherer
married to prob an A
A- kid Explorer
A+ kid Warrior
I'm always odd one out!
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jayneeo
Monday, January 21, 2008, 12:05am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
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Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
drgnwng.....what an amazing polarity...!
I know if I followed the portions I could lose.
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meribelle
Monday, January 21, 2008, 2:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer, with a Teacher Husband
Kyosha Nim
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Gender: Female
Location: Beaumont, Texas -- near the Gulf of Mexico
Age: 66
I am happy with my size, but I would like to be smaller (loose about 10 pounds).  I was about 20 pounds heavier but I started on the candida diet, done by my blood type, and I lost a lot of weight.  It is wonderful to be this size.  It is a gift from God which came from sores in my mouth!  Go figure!  


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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SWAMI Warrior ~ Taster, NN, ENFJ
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Quoted from Victoria
All O's are posting here and I find that interesting.  Any B Gatherers?


Looks like you're in the minority, Victoria! I didn't vote (I'm not a gatherer), but it sure is interesting that the ones who did vote overwhelmingly have had weight issues for some time. It's all so fascinating!



It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Peppermint Twist
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Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
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Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 52
I definitely have a very challenging weight issue.

I was not fat as a child.  In fact, I was a premie and only weighed five lbs and change at birth, and I never was fat as a little 'un.  However, the weight issue did begin pretty young, as a senior in high school.  I shot up, but was able to shoot myself back down again (ah, the metabolism of the young!) via a totally ignorant, unhealthy crash-type diet that I made up, consisting of eating no breakfast (bad, especially since my lunch period wasn't until something like 1:30 p.m.), and for lunch I would buy this totally unhealthy school lunch of tuna (hey, at least that turns out to be a Gatherer superfood!) on white bread (!) with potato chips (!) and lemonade.  Then I would eat as much as I wanted at dinner, which of course would be way too much by that point in the day, as I'd be starving, and then I could drink as many beverages as I wanted, usually consisting of about five thousand V8's *lol*.  So funny that I remember this, even now.  Anyway, I did lose the weight, about 20 lbs.

Then, when I got to college, it happened to be a very progressive, sort of avante-garde type of place and we were all into vegetarianism, basically, which was the beginning of the end for me, weight-wise.  It wasn't bad at all for the first half of college because I was so active, but then the second half I started going up, and when I left college, that is when I really shot up, as I wasn't eating right for an O Gatherer at ALL.  omg.  Basically all I ate was pasta, popcorn and fat.

Once I got on the BTD, finally, in 1997, I did lose all the weight, but it took about two years to do it.  Then again, I lost about 55 lbs, so that makes sense, considering how slooooooooooooooooooowly my body lets go of weight.  Unfortunately, I then kinda sorta went off the diet for a SHORT time and the weight shot back on so fast it would make your head spin.  It is amazing how perfect I have to be, discipline-wise, to lose weight, yet how easy it is for the weight to fly back on if I even look sideways at the wrong food, or don't exercise, or both.  So then I lost all the weight AGAIN, which brings us to 2004 or 5.  Somehow, just from one summer and fall of getting off track SOMEWHAT, it all came roaring back on.  And I've been working diligently to get it off ever since, which not much success because I kept getting off track, it seems.  If I am even slightly off track, the weight comes back.  This is why the idea of Gatherers being a thrifty genotype that holds onto weight for dear life rings so true to me.  My body will not release weight without Herculean effort on my part, period.  H*ll no, it won't go.  "Whoever dies with the most, wins" indeed.

I have very high hopes now, though, higher than I've had in many a moon, for getting the weight off and keeping it off.  I was actually doing well for a while (until the holidays!) before the GTD came into the picture, and now that I'm on the GTD, I hope to burn through these remaining...53 (just went and used our NEW doctor's scale in the 2nd floor Ladies Room at work...it says I weigh 7 lbs more than the dog scale at the vet's, but I think the vet's is calibrated incorrectly, as we weighed a bag of dry food and it registered 7 oz less than it really weighed) lbs to my goal and stay there or even go farther...but getting and staying there would be just fine with me!

I lost the first 13 or 14 lbs of that on the BTD since September 17th, when I really re-dedicated myself to the weight loss effort with a white-hot focus.  Unfortunately, the holidays at work cooled that white-hot focus and I lost some ground, which is why the net total loss was 13 or 14 lbs, and now I'm up to a net total of 16 lbs lost since September 17th, which only averages to 4 lbs per month, but I'm telling you, that is how slowly I tend to lose on average over the long haul.  Sad, no?  But I think the Gatherer plan is going to kick this thing into high gear.  We didn't have our scale when I started, or for the month or so before, but I know I've lost a few pounds just since starting the Gatherer plan, even with all the stress I was under with a dying kitty and even with not exercising much.  Speaking of which, I'm about to go out and do my lunch-time 1/2-hour walk, which I haven't done in a few months.  The holidays really felled me.  But I'm back, baby, I'm back!

53 more lbs and then, the big trick, maintaining it.  The GTD is the ticket, I can feel it!


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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Squirrel
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ex-Gatherer, ex-SWAMI - plain old O-nonnie
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Age: 45
Thanks for all your replies folks. I think that's a pretty overwhelming result so far but only 27 votes.

Any more for any more?


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Location: Sacramento, California
Age: 55
I am happy with my weight.  However, over the past couple of months I've gained about 5 pounds, most of it in my tummy area.  This Gatherer way of eating is a big change, quinoa flakes and pineapple for breakfast and Quark Cheese with fruit and pecans for lunch!!  I'm used to beef and veggies.


Husband, daugher(17) and son(15) - we're all O's
BTD since Feb. 2003
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focused
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Quoted from Victoria
All O's are posting here and I find that interesting.  Any B Gatherers?


I do believe I am a Gatherer after retaking my finger measurements. Initially I was thought to be Explorer but had equal finger lengths in the online calculator. I have been on Explorer but wondered why I have had headaches and dropping blood sugar.


SWAMId  Gatherer then Nomad then Gatherer. Currently 40% Nomad - Again.  
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SheriBerry
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My weight is  fine, but I sure work on it and struggle to keep it down.  I am so hoping that by following the Gatherer  plan I can  not watch every bite so closely!
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Quoted from focused


I do believe I am a Gatherer after retaking my finger measurements. Initially I was thought to be Explorer but had equal finger lengths in the online calculator. I have been on Explorer but wondered why I have had headaches and dropping blood sugar.


I had the same experience with finger lengths and was doing the Explorer for a while. I really feel the Gatherer diet is the right fit for me.


SWAMId  Gatherer then Nomad then Gatherer. Currently 40% Nomad - Again.  
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While I think I need to lose about 10lbs I've never been overweight and the weight I want to lose is more about shape and tone.  I'm 5'8 and a size 2-4 but I tend to carry my weight around my middle so I probably need to lose a few lbs just to get that waist/hip ratio down!!  I will say though, that it is insanely hard for me to lose even 1lb.  Initially I really doubted my Gatherer status because I'm not endomorphic, do not look padded, I have smallish bones, but after seemingly endless measuring and trying the Explorer diet for a few weeks (and being very unhappy) I've decided I'm 80%-85% sure I'm a Gatherer.
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Art teacher...Utah County. GT2 Gatherer
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My weight wasn't an issue until I hit 50 and decided to go vegetarian.  I was really a startch-i-tarian and then the pounds came on and I had a 7 year battle.  But I thought I was eating "healthy".  Luckily, I learned and practiced the BTD 3 years ago and the weight came off rather quickly.  Now practicing GT2 and my focus is detoxing.  I have been delightedly eating the benny grains and have a wonderful quick bread recipe that hubby and both love, but I feel like I'm putting pounds back on. Must be more diligent in consuming just the right amount of quinoa, millet, rice and sprouted spelt flour.  I love the new genotyping research now that I have decided I'm a gatherer and hot the hunter I thought I was.  


Living healthy is an Art.
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Two of my favorite local Naturopaths have just concluded that they are Gatherers.  She is an O and he is a B.  Neither have been overweight in the years that I have known them, however they have been on the BTD and regular exercisers.  She told me yesterday that she realizes that she would most likely be very overweight had she continued eating the way she did when she was younger.

It seems to me that Gatherers may be about tendencies, even if weight appears normal at this time.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion

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Gatherer, with a Teacher Husband
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Location: Beaumont, Texas -- near the Gulf of Mexico
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I really am 'padded' even when I am at my lowest weight, which is now, thanks to the btd and the gtd.  This program has been good for my self esteem because now I realize that no matter what I do or do not eat, I will still have some 'padding'.  That fact helps me accept myself more.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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