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funkymuse
Saturday, January 12, 2008, 3:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I could care less if the President (well that's not a good example is it?!)   said that the GT diet was bunk... for me we each are our own personal scientist with our bodies.  I've tried um all like several here and nothing has worked as this has.
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I could care less if the President (well that's not a good example is it?!)   said that the GT diet was bunk... for me we each are our own personal scientist with our bodies.  I've tried um all like several here and nothing has worked as this has.


Since I started the diet and the suggested supplements about two weeks ago (if even that), I've lost ten pounds.
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Since I started the diet and the suggested supplements about two weeks ago (if even that), I've lost ten pounds.


That is wonderful!  If you haven't already, why don't you send your story thru to the genotype success story area on the genotype website?  
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"Truth goes through three phases. First it is rediculed, second it is violently opposed, third it is accepted as self evident."

or how about this  

Winston Churchill
Truth is incontrovertible, ignorance can deride it, panic may resent it, malice may destroy it, but there it is.

Cheers  everybody


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
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Ron-A-Non
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Truth is incontrovertible, ignorance can deride it, panic may resent it, malice may destroy it, but there it is.

You just gave me my new mantra.  I love it.

Here's another one I love:

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A million zeros is still zero.

which means, essentially, that no matter how many people are in support of a wrong idea, it's still wrong.
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Time: The book comes off about as scientific as telling Scorpios they should eat only food grown when Jupiter aligns with Mars.

Health:  The book’s strategy is based on anecdotal reports and one physician’s loose interpretation of the complex genetic-science field.

The BTD books were full of explanations that went over most people’s head.  If he reader wanted even more scientific information, just look at the BTD website and the individualist.

The GTD book is written in a manor that everyone can understand.  I think that is a great approach.  It will reach more people.  Many in future additions there can be an appendix briefly stating where the science comes from and direct the reader to learn more via the websites.  

We all know and understand how much science went into the GTD.  We appreciate Dr. D’s hard work.


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Lisalea
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You just gave me my new mantra.  I love it.

My pleasure !!  


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Here's another one I love:


which means, essentially, that no matter how many people are in support of a wrong idea, it's still wrong.

Exactly !!  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
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Dr. D
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It's a funny world that I've gotten myself in.
  • If you write a weighty tome, no publisher wants it and nobody wants to read it.
  • If you put the things in that allow an average person to relate to it, you alienate the academics.
  • If you write a diet book with information that everyone has come to expect, the critics will leave you alone, or even worse, ignore you.
  • Every other diet book author is suddenly your enemy.
  • If you hold a non-traditional degree, The American Dietetic Association, The American Medical Association and all their henchmen, will categorically reject you out of hand.
  • These two groups own the health pages of the glossy magazines in the USA, lock stock and barrel.


Ten years ago this would have been soul-crushing. I'm so much better at this game now. Probably the greatest effect of these types of articles (and I've seen it in practice) is that they tell a bunch of people, who might not have otherwise known, that I have a new book out.

If you want a metaphor about how I fit into this world, just look at how the media treats Ron Paul, one of the republican candidates for president. No matter if you agree with him or not, you have to realize that he is on a collision course with American politics.

Which results in the media:

1. Trivializing him when he says something germane (he was recently 'bounced' from Larry King, for reasons some people think stem from his platform on eliminating income tax).
2. Portraying him as a crack pot.
3. Securing the collusion of the other candidates, who all do a better job of playing by the rules.


No need to go any further with this. However I do appreciate the outpouring of support. You guys are wonderful.



A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand

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Devora
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I never read such stupid reviews in my life as these two in Time and Health magazine.  It's more like, "how to trash a book in 3 sentences or less."  PITIFUL!


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Ron-A-Non
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Dr. D,

All my life I've been allergic to dairy.  Yet, I looked on your hunter foods list and saw Romano and parmesan cheeses, so I took a chance and bought some.

I ate a fourth of the Romano wedge and have had no adverse reaction whatsoever.  I'm astounded.  You were right.
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No need to go any further with this. However I do appreciate the outpouring of support. You guys are wonderful.



We're wonderful 'cause we found you!


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Don
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We all know and understand how much science went into the GTD.  We appreciate Dr. D’s hard work.

Yes, I can only imagine the amount of previous knowledge, new research, and intensive analysis that went into the GTD. Thank goodness you are willing to work hard.


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Ron-A-Non
Monday, January 14, 2008, 7:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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That is wonderful!  If you haven't already, why don't you send your story thru to the genotype success story area on the genotype website?  


I tried logging into the message boards over there, but the server was apparently having problems at this hour...
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Ron-A-Non
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If you write a weighty tome, no publisher wants it and nobody wants to read it.


Dr. D,

Perhaps you could publish a more unabridged "director's cut" version of the book, to satisfy all those who want more in-depth stuff?  

I think it would be a highly valuable resource.  
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Dr. D,

Perhaps you could publish a more unabridged "director's cut" version of the book, to satisfy all those who want more in-depth stuff?  

I think it would be a highly valuable resource.  


I second this! I want to know more.

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Ron-A-Non
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It's a funny world that I've gotten myself in.

If you write a weighty tome, no publisher wants it and nobody wants to read it.

If you put the things in that allow an average person to relate to it, you alienate the academics.

If you write a diet book with information that everyone has come to expect, the critics will leave you alone, or even worse, ignore you.

Every other diet book author is suddenly your enemy.

If you hold a non-traditional degree, The American Dietetic Association, The American Medical Association and all their henchmen, will categorically reject you out of hand.

These two groups own the health pages of the glossy magazines in the USA, lock stock and barrel.



Ten years ago this would have been soul-crushing. I'm so much better at this game now. Probably the greatest effect of these types of articles (and I've seen it in practice) is that they tell a bunch of people, who might not have otherwise known, that I have a new book out.

If you want a metaphor about how I fit into this world, just look at how the media treats Ron Paul, one of the republican candidates for president. No matter if you agree with him or not, you have to realize that he is on a collision course with American politics.

Which results in the media:

1. Trivializing him when he says something germane (he was recently 'bounced' from Larry King, for reasons some people think stem from his platform on eliminating income tax).
2. Portraying him as a crack pot.
3. Securing the collusion of the other candidates, who all do a better job of playing by the rules.


No need to go any further with this. However I do appreciate the outpouring of support. You guys are wonderful.


*marching back and forth in front of the flag, like General George S. Patton*

"There is one great thing that you people will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandchild on your knee and they ask you what you did in the Great Health Revolution, you WON'T have to cough, shift them to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy (or Grandmommy) pitched prescriptions in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look them straight in the eye and say, "Kid, your Granddaddy (or Grandmommy) rode with the Great Genotype Army and a Son-of-a-@#%^%#@-#*&$% named Peter D'Adamo!"


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Perhaps you could publish a more unabridged "director's cut" version of the book, to satisfy all those who want more in-depth stuff?  


That is the normal flow of events. Witness:

ER-> LR-> Encyclopedia

Since success in one endeavor allows the opportunity for the next.


A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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Peppermint Twist
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Well, Time Magazine...reviewed GenoType and basically said, "there's no science behind it"

And apparently the person who wrote the review has zero street cred in the realm of deciding what has science behind it and what does not, as her bio states she is "a former English major" who enjoys going to publishing parties.  So, if she is going to state that there is no science behind something, I strongly suggest that good journalism would dictate that she BACK THAT STATEMENT UP.  But alas, she did not, thus rendering her opinion baseless.  Oh well.  Here is my comment to Dr. D.'s "File Under Futile" blog:

"Dr. D., consider the source. What qualifies her, pray tell, to judge the scientific merit of the book? (Answer Key: nada!) This is probably only the beginning of an onslaught of criticism, but don’t feel bad. Some of the greatest folks in human history (Martin Luther King, Jr., Ghandi, Jesus of Nazareth, Al Gore, Galileo) attracted a lot of criticism. People often criticize that which threatens the mainstream view. Just do what all the greats do: soldier on with the truth."



"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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It gets tiresome, waiting for the masses to "catch up".
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It's a funny world that I've gotten myself in.
  • If you write a weighty tome, no publisher wants it and nobody wants to read it.
  • If you put the things in that allow an average person to relate to it, you alienate the academics.


In the field of cultural anthropology, there was a truly great student and teacher who went through this.  Her work was brilliant, yet she wrote in a style that was accessible to the masses, so she was criticized and sometimes dismissed in academic circles within her own field for that accessibility.  Personally, I think it is a gift to be able to communicate in a way that INcludes versus EXcludes.  In a way that educates and elucidates versus shuts out and obfuscates.  This person had that gift.  Her name was Margaret Mead.  You have that gift, too.
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Ten years ago this would have been soul-crushing. I'm so much better at this game now. Probably the greatest effect of these types of articles (and I've seen it in practice) is that they tell a bunch of people, who might not have otherwise known, that I have a new book out.

Dr. D., would it be possible to issue you a cyberhug?  If so, look out, here it comes:  {{((HUG))}}.  I'm proud of you for growing to realize this insight and adopting this relaxed-n-wise 'tude about this type of "review".  To quote a song that usually bugs me to no end/on so many levels, yet that I have to grudgingly admit does have a point that applies and is very apt in certain situations, such as this one:  Don't worry, be happy!

It's all good.  

Quoted from the relaxed, evolved Dr. D.
I do appreciate the outpouring of support. You guys are wonderful.

True!  



"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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Quoted from Dr. D
  • If you write a weighty tome, no publisher wants it and nobody wants to read it.
  • If you put the things in that allow an average person to relate to it, you alienate the academics.


An understandable dilemma, Dr. D, though me thinks that possibly you under-estimate the "average person". Either that, or your followers are not "average people". If you target the above-average person, and include your academic peers, then maybe the "word" will be spread that much faster. Anyway, I'm sure you've been through it a thousands times already. Just wanted you to know that I would really like to read a "weighty tome" on the subject. If you were the author, so much the better.


I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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I would really like to read a "weighty tome" on the subject.


"Have a hunger for it" would be a more accurate description.



I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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If so, look out, here it comes:  {{((HUG))}}.


I love ya' man.. (and woman)..


A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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More hugs.


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The proof is in the pudding, so to speak . . .

A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in the breakroom at work, minding my own business, eating lunch (and reading Nora Roberts latest In Death novel, if you must know--guilty pleasures rock!). A coworker came in (one of the Food Nazi squad), took a look at what I was eating--thinly sliced beef and onions with spring greens--shook her head and said, 'How can you believe that will make you healthy? Red meat is bad for you, it raises your cholesterol, you need whole wheat, etc etc blah blah." At which point I put down my book and said, "Who has lost and kept off fifty pounds this past two years? Who has normal blood pressure and blood sugar?" The coworker, who has been yo-yo dieting since I've met her, put on an extra twenty pounds by her own admission, and just spent two weeks taking care of her husband after his quintuple bypass, went red and shut up. I finished my lunch, put a bookmark in the chapter where I stopped and headed back to work, feeling full but not bloated and still just a bit hungry--all was right with the world.

Those of us who choose to work with Dr. D through the BTD and now the GTD know the truth of his efforts. Learning the science behind it all is a fantastic bonus for us and only makes it easier (and great fun!) to eat right for our type. All the nay-sayers, AMA flunkies, former English majors and corporate marauders in the world can't change that.


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