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yaeli
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Of the commonly available fresh fruits for eating, there aren't many AT ALL!  We can have blueberries (not available in Israel)... and rasberries (also not to be found in Israel).

For someone who loves fruits this really borders nothing at all.

Fresh blueberries and raspberries are certainly available in Israel in season, but their price hits the roof. A small plastic box of 100 g (I hope not less than that...) costs the equivalent of US$ 4 - 6.5.

(I've just received my first shipment of ARA6, which I must take daily after 60 years of having been abusing my intestines. For 100 g I paid US$67- incl. shipping and fees. It really arrived swiftly, 8 days altogether (Dec 26 - Jan 3)  I'm on cloud 9!  )




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Oh Yael!  Where do you find these fresh blueberries?  

I just bought soem frozen blackcurrants and quince juice!  I put them together in the blender and the result was clensing and refreshing!

Had pumpkin onion dried cranberries and tofu for lunch with peanut sauce (tamari, garlic, lemon, water).

Wild dietary changes!!!


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In poche vegetable 'boutiques', like Yom Tov in Gaza St. and the like.


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Soft cooked millet grits and ghee are great with a couple of eggs over easy on the top.  Reminds me of southern grits (corn) which I have not eaten in forever.


Ooooh!  Do you think that this would work instead of all grits/polenta?  Mmmmm... roasted veggies over millet grits!!!

I'm having an easier time with the changes than I was.  I had no idea how many options there are out there now!

Thanks for the cheese, Dr. D!!


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Devora, I was kidding. You can't find the GTD foods there where you are.  
Sorry if you didn't get my joke. I was trying to lighten things up.

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I'm sure that this is a question that has been asked before somewhere, but here goes.  

I'm a 'new' Teacher and now Mutton is on my Super-de-Duper list.  (Yea, I think).  I've been cooking lamb for years for DH as he is a B/Nomad, and all of that time I NEVER see mutton, just lamb.

Can anyone tell me what the difference is?


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Edna!

Thanks for the great response!

For you?  Anytime!  You need to post more, that's your prob right there, girlie.  Post and ye shall find!  ...Responses, that is!  
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Today I made index cards for the servings of each group.  Each time I eat something I will take a card.

   You, my friend, are such a Type A!!!  

Index cards!

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I am willowing in the sea of uncertainty, trying to part with my beloved habits!

Giiirl, I thought of the most fabulous analogy/metaphor last night, and I was going to post this fantabulous thread about it, but today I find myself fried emotionally and physically from a morning at the veterinarian, plus fighting some sort of bug off, so instead of attempting a fantabulous post, I will just insert my incoherent thoughts here, buried in this post, and hope they help someone:

I was thinking last night, upon reflecting on the posts about transitioning from BTD to GTD, and how some people are basically freaking out, about how much I HATED and resisted changing from my beloved WordPerfect for DOS to MS Word for Windows.  Why?  Because in WordPerfect 5.0 for DOS (long may it wave in my heart!), I could figure out anything and everything, I could understand the logic of EVERYTHING, by simply using a feature called "reveal codes".  You could see every single code in the document and you could figure out the WHY of EVERYTHING if you were really gooooooooooooooooood (and, day-uuuum, I was gooooooooooooooood).  With Word for Windows, by contrast, there is no reveal codes.  You are flying blind half the time.  I used to blame this on Bill Gates (my view is that I can blame anything in the world on either Reagan, Bill Gates, or shrub), but then I started to grudgingly realize that the newer versions, the Windows versions, of Word and even WordPerfect, are FAR more complex, programming-wise, than my dear old WordPerfect for DOS.  Even WordPerfect, which still has reveal codes, or did with the last version I ever used, which was a Windows version, does not show you ALL your codes anymore, as it did in the DOS versions.  It is simply too complex, too many things going on, programming-wise, for the end user to possibly be "shown" it all.

Now, the BTD is a lot like WordPerfect for DOS (follow me here):  It was based on basically one classic thing, the lectin and blood type reaction.  Peanuts = positive agglutination for blood type A.  Wheat = harmful agglutination for blood type O.  I understand.  I understand it ALL.

But the GTD is based on far more than just blood type.  There are so many other variables that go into your complete genotype profile.  Look at a constellation of stars, like the Big Dipper.  If it represented your genotype within the GTD, you could look at blood type as one particularly bright, large star in the constellation.  But there are so many other stars making up the Big Dipper, not just one bright one!  Too many for the specific logic of how each one interacts with the recommended foods alone or in combination with the other stars to be presented to the "end users", ya know?

With WordPerfect for DOS, I could pop open the hood and figure out EXACTLY what was going on with the car.  With Word, I have to trust that the program knows what it is doing in many situations.  And since I'm not a Word or Windows fan, that ain't happnin'.  I still basically pine for WordPerfect *lol*!  Although I must grudgingly admit that what I can do with the newer versions of Word for Windows these days far eclipse anything that even I, advanced WordPerfect Goddess though I was, could accomplish with WordPerfect for DOS.  Similarly, the GTD, while not as clear-cut and understandable for the "end user", probably runs circles around the BTD.  And I think the reason I'm having a far easier time transitioning from the BTD to the GTD than I did from WordPerfect to Word, is that unlike how I feel about Bill Gates (or felt--he has gone and turned into quite a philanthropist, making it impossible to totally loathe him, dang it!), I totally trust Dr. D.  Think about it:  has he EVER led us astray, diet-wise?  So, I'm going with the flow, even though I don't have "reveal codes" for each and every bit of logic in the new diet.

Come on in, the water is fine!



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Mayflowers!  

Today I made index cards for the servings of each group.  Each time I eat something I will take a card.  I am going to try to see if I can eat just according to what the cards allow me.  It's a big challenge in the fruit and veg area.  There aren't so many raw veggies that are superfoods that I can snack on!!!

Nice to see you Cheryl O Blogger! Perhps my newly designed card system would work for you in place of WW.



That would probably work.  Weight Watchers at one time had bracelets with beads that you moved around to indicate that you had eaten a point.

It is a challenge to get in all those fruits and veggies.  I'll probably have half a grapefruit (they're huge) and a cup of pineapple chunks on most days, then one other fruit of some kind.  I'll probably make a soup most weeks with great northern beans, canned tomatoes, beef stock and various veggies.  I bought spinach, green beans and green peas this week and just use the portions I need.  Throw in a big salad here and there and I should be done.


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Dang, you peeps are getting me into soup mode, BIG TIME!

Too bad I am now officially in whatever one moves to when the po' house kicks one out, due to veterinarian visits, or I would rush out tonight and buy a fabulous soup pot or stock pot or whatever they are called.

I had this HUGE aluminum one at one point, but I don't want to cook in aluminum, especially soups.  Us Gatherers are prone enough to Alzheimer's as it is, apparently.  I think maybe that is why my soups never turned out.*  I would cook and cook and cook (simmer and simmer and simmer...Brig hates when people say "cook" instead of the specific type of cooking they are doing, but what stresses me out about that is, usually I have no idea what the name of the specific type of cooking I'm doing is *lol*) for hours and....still tastes like hot water, not a delicious broth or stock.

I need to get a reasonably sized, non-aluminum soup pot.  Because y'all keep talking about SOUP!  Exactly how cold is it right now north of Florida?!


* edited to add:  not because I'm prone to Alzheimer's but because my stock pot was too huge!


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Ooooh!  Do you think that this would work instead of all grits/polenta?  Mmmmm... roasted veggies over millet grits!!!


Corn grits/polenta are somewhat sticky, which does not happen in the same way with millet.  But in many recipes, you should be able to cross over to millet.  Try using more or less water in cooking, depending on whether you want it soft or grainy.

Also, try rinsing the grains and very lightly toasting in a dry skillet until the grains make little popping sounds and jump around.  Don't let them burn.  It improves the taste in my opinion.



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... I could figure out anything and everything, I could understand the logic of EVERYTHING, by simply using a feature called "reveal codes". ... It is simply too complex, too many things going on, programming-wise, for the end user to possibly be "shown" it all.

Now, the BTD is a lot like WordPerfect for DOS (follow me here):  It was based on basically one classic thing, the lectin and blood type reaction.  Peanuts = positive agglutination for blood type A.  Wheat = harmful agglutination for blood type O.  I understand.  I understand it ALL.

But the GTD is based on far more than just blood type.  There are so many other ... Too many for the specific logic of how each one interacts with the recommended foods alone or in combination with the other stars to be presented to the "end users", ya know?

...
Similarly, the GTD, while not as clear-cut and understandable for the "end user", probably runs circles around the BTD.  And I think the reason I'm having a far easier time transitioning from the BTD to the GTD [is because] I totally trust Dr. D.  Think about it:  has he EVER led us astray, diet-wise?  So, I'm going with the flow, even though I don't have "reveal codes" for each and every bit of logic in the new diet.

Come on in, the water is fine!



See, this is what I'm still really really REALLY struggling with...

Arguably, Dr D had led me astray because about 70% of the food I used to eat, based on his recommendations, are now some kind of toxin to me.

I want those reveal codes for GTD!!!!!! I admit, I haven't been to the site yet (on my way as soon as I post this!). I want a GTD typebase that says WHY a food is bad for me. I want to be able to make the choice that I'm not worried about "precipitating serum flocculation" when having dairy.

Moreover, I struggle that THE SOLE determiner of my gt is th lenght of my fingers. (For my blood type, the ONLY measurement that matters is finger length). I don't fit any O gt better than the other. I feel at home and peace with every O characterization from ER/LR4YT, but cannot come to grips with any gt. Isa and her feeling explomad is nothing compared to my expluntherer dilemna. (No offense to Isa- I just with I only had to struggle with feeling like I'm torn between 2, instead of 3 gts).

I'll admit, BTD didn't make me my dream size, however, I got derailed by something I couldn't control, and didn't let me do BTD for about 4 months, and that seems to be where everything went wrong. Moreover, I usually ate too many grains and too much sugar (being a great baker with spelt is not such a good thing for a waistline...), and never really gave up dairy. It fixed every other possible "problem" I had that I could be aware of. So a part of me wonders if I need to make such a dramatic change from my BTD to the GTD, or simply really do the BTD properly.

I'm personally going to try to do GTD as best as I can for a month. And then I'll evaluate how well this is going. Who knows, I may become the biggest fan/advocate of GTD, I might say I feel like an O not a gatherer and go back to BTD guidelines, or I might mix the two for my own individualised, but perhaps bastardized diet for optimal health.

I've noticed a lot of O non's loving the gatherer diet because it's less restrictive. I find GTD the opposite based upon my food preferences. And I've seen many who read the gatherer profile and are having "Eureka!!!" moments. I read all O possibilities and just start worrying that if I furrough my brow any longer I'm gonna get wrinkles...
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I am questioning why watermelon and pineapple have been added as beneficial for gatherers since they have a high glycemic index? Also, I want to know WHY blueberries and brocolli are limited. Is there a quick rationale someone can give me?


Watermelon along with grapefruit and tomatoes are high in lycopene.  Many melons have a mold issue.  He may be trying to give us the best available melon choice.  Pineapple has enzymes that are very beneficial.  Blueberries have me stumped.  Brocolli and most of the cruciferous vegetables probably have too much of a compound that is inhibitory to the thyroid.  Cauliflower is probably the worst.  We do get brocolli and other crucifers back when weight and other issues are under control.  Those are just speculations I have, but I think Dr.D tries to give each group a representative of each type of food, selecting the best for each type and balancing lots of pluses and minuses for each.


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This may seem obvious, but what will determine if it's 3 or 6 months before we can have a sniff at the black dots?  Do followers of BTD have an advantage over rank GTD beginners?  It seems that most of my GTD black dots were staples on BTD.  


I've wondered about that too.  I think I'd look at my recent diet and see how far it is from the GTD recommendations.  Some people may have intuitively been eating very close to the recommendations and need less time to balance even thought they are newer to BTD/GTD.  Then you would consider weight and health issues.  If things seem to be stabilizing, try some black dot items, but listen to your body and take them out if symptoms and pounds return.

I think variety is really important, so I won't be afraid at all to begin using black dot foods down the line, I just will probably never emphasize them.


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Try using a dot as the decimal separator instead of comma: 32.5 .  It's the US convention.

The problem that MG was having is that the Sitting Height in the Basics section only provides measurements down to 35.000 inches. MG needed to input a smaller number.

The workaround I gave her was to up both her Sitting Height and Chair Height numbers by 2.3", that way she could input the numbers and the difference remains the same.

The problem was reported to WFM.




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Watermelon along with grapefruit and tomatoes are high in lycopene.  Many melons have a mold issue.  He may be trying to give us the best available melon choice.  Pineapple has enzymes that are very beneficial.  Blueberries have me stumped.  Brocolli and most of the cruciferous vegetables probably have too much of a compound that is inhibitory to the thyroid.  Cauliflower is probably the worst.  We do get brocolli and other crucifers back when weight and other issues are under control.  Those are just speculations I have, but I think Dr.D tries to give each group a representative of each type of food, selecting the best for each type and balancing lots of pluses and minuses for each.


I think you're right on with this, all the diets appear to be very well balanced nutritionally. So the foods have changed, so you find what you need in another food. It all works. I checked nutritiondata.com for their analysis of blueberries, they are not rated very high for weight loss. There are about 139 fruit choices ahead of blueberries that work better for weight loss. So this may be the reasoning behind making it a black dot.


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I checked nutritiondata.com for their analysis of blueberries, they are not rated very high for weight loss. There are about 139 fruit choices ahead of blueberries that work better for weight loss. So this may be the reasoning behind making it a black dot.

If you are right with this assumption, teri, it would mean that the GTD is purely a weightloss diet. For someone like me who is not interested in loosing weight, but in improving her health, the GTD and the food choices would then be inappropriate.

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curious...If I were you I would ask myself how is my health, how is my weight, and then just go ahead and eat the black dot foods if those are both optimal already. (don't tell Dr. D I said that)
seriously, I have a real strong trust in the gatherer diet....but then I need to lose weight. I see that as a health issue, not a fashion issue. I cannot be ultimately healthy while carrying too much fat and storing toxins. And I need all my thyroid function for this.
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If you are right with this assumption, teri, it would mean that the GTD is purely a weightloss diet. For someone like me who is not interested in loosing weight, but in improving her health, the GTD and the food choices would then be inappropriate.



I am like you, not in it for weight loss, but to optimize health and to remain disease free for the rest of my life! I don't think of the GTD as a weight loss diet even if I think I'm right about my assumption(s). Blueberries are only a black dot food for the initial detox period, then they become neutral. So I assume then that a lot of toxins must be stored in fat tissues, so the goal may be to reduce fat tissues during the detox period. If you are someone with little or no fat this might not be an issue for you. Again, just speculating. I am hoping that one day Dr. D will reveal the detailed mechanics of the relationships between specific foods and each genotype. Maybe a GTD Encyclopedia is next! In the meantime, I've ordered a book called 'Nutritional Genomics: Impact on Health & Disease", which is one of the recommended readings at the end of the GTD book.


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Good metaphor, Oceangirl, but I must say that what I am uncertain about is not trusting Dr. D.  I DO trust Dr. D (reveal codes or not) and that is why I am doing this!  I think I didn't mean what I said.  I think that I am only feel ing uncertain that my body is responding to these changes positively, from the feeling sense of things, but just as I wallowed through the first month of the BTD not feeling too good at all, so too will I trudge through these waters to where Dr. D. is bringing me!!

In the meantime: big SF breakfast: A full package of shredded cabbage (made into coslaw with my olive oil almondaise) plus a can of black beans (I have got to prepare these fresh!  Canned food is rotten!) and now I ate a few carob/spelt cookies and some peppermint tea.  

After checking my cards last night (and I think you ought to say that I am such a TEACHER now and not an A!!! - Get out of that old fashioned typing P.Twisti!!!) and I discovered that I am not eating enough grains!!!  4 servings a day of grains!!!  I eat about 3 servings a week (plus Shabbas, when I eat, in my opinion, far too much spelt bread (1 roll Friday night and 3 on Saturday) and then I have to go into grain recovery.  Well, now I have to reprogram myself to eat 4 servings a day - whoh Nellie!  True, i ate tofu and veggies yesterday, and it didn't oocur to me to prepare some rice to go with it.  I just got used to being very grain-free.  I am also eating way too much yogurt and fruit.  EVEN with the VERY limited fruits on the Teacher SF list, I can easily eat 7 servings a day (including juices and jams and dried fruits).

One Yummy SF I can reccomend for Teachers: quiche with half spelt and half oat crust, made with SF cheese and sauteed kale and onion and zucchini.  Add eggs and some SF spices and put in the blender and then in the crust.  I could live on this quiche!!!

Cheryl,

Yes, I like those cards!  At the end of the day, I can see where I am off.  Yesterday, I had a stack of grain cards left, and I ODed on the fruit and yogurt.  I think that I just need to consult my cards before I eat, and I can always look at the cards in order to decide what I can still eat that day!!! It is hard for me to pass up fruit for a GRAIN!!!


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Now, the BTD is a lot like WordPerfect for DOS
....
It was based on basically one classic thing, the lectin and blood type reaction.  Peanuts = positive agglutination for blood type A.  Wheat = harmful agglutination for blood type O.  I understand.  I understand it ALL.
What (in the world) is "positive agglutination"???  
Can somebody help me here?
Thank you.



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Positive agglutination means agglutinating "sick" cells like cancer cells.

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I am hoping that one day Dr. D will reveal the detailed mechanics of the relationships between specific foods and each genotype. Maybe a GTD Encyclopedia is next! In the meantime, I've ordered a book called 'Nutritional Genomics: Impact on Health & Disease", which is one of the recommended readings at the end of the GTD book.

Teri, yes an explanation of the relationship between specific foods and each genotype would help a lot. I feel confused at the moment and unsure what to do. I followed the 0-nonsecretor diet religiously and it turns out that a lot of the food I ate is now toxic. I am unsure whether it is only toxic if I want to loose weight (which I don't - I am very slim) or if it is toxic in general.
Yayneeo - my weight is perfect, but I try to get rid of my backpain.
I like to understand things and even though the Genotype book is a great read and makes intuitive sense, I would like to know more about how the research was conducted and why exactly some foods are black dot avoids (in particular the ones that were previously beneficials). This would enable me to make a more informed decision of whether I should give the Genotype diet a go or whether I should look somewhere else.
The book Nutritional Genomics sounds great. I checked and it is available in Australia. I'll try to get it.

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Gumby
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Quoted from Devora

I discovered that I am not eating enough grains!!!  4 servings a day of grains!!!  I eat about 3 servings a week (plus Shabbas, when I eat, in my opinion, far too much spelt bread (1 roll Friday night and 3 on Saturday) and then I have to go into grain recovery.  Well, now I have to reprogram myself to eat 4 servings a day - whoh Nellie!  


Devora, if you are used to not eating grains, why not start at the lower end of the recommended frequency for carbs?  The range is 2 - 5 servings daily.  Starting with 2 per day would be way less pressure!   And since the servings are so small, that should not be too hard.  

Thanks for the quiche idea...it sounds so good!  Will try it for sure.


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I'm with you, Curious.  I was saying the same thing to my walking buddy this am.  I would love to know why and where he, (Dr.D,) got some of the info in the Genotype book. I'm looking forward to reading his "Suggested Reading List," if I can find them. My library doesn't have them all.) I find it all fascinating and very interesting.  

I want to measure everyone I run into..(just kidding.)
I'd also want to thank Dr. D for his wonderful mind, and work, and books, not to mention his gift for computer technology.  Where would we all be without it?  Judy O0oº so grateful for Dr. D!


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Daughter: O+ Secretor, probably Hunter.. [judy_clauss@yahoo.com]
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I would encourage anyone interested in knowing more about the mechanics of the diet to see what is available at genotypediet.com, where Dr D is answering questions and providing explanations. There will be more information there as time goes on and already there is some that I have found useful.
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