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Amazone I.
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sorry warrior-companions... I am not sure if this is really me, only the test results *seem* to show up that it might be....might happen  is alike...ok...I am still struggeling to accept ........


annddd sorry I don't know anything about *being such an eclectic being*
especially, hey sweeyties are WE the rest of the survived "amazones" ....hmmmm with arrow & bows  ...šššhthey were always some fine muscular built up women but merely slim....


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Tomatilla - I think I might be your GTD sister.  I'm matching on  Explorer and Warrior (exact same numbers in the strength tests) so I will order the PROP taster and that hopefully will provide the final answer.

From the verbal descriptions though I feel I am a better fit in the Warrior category.

Maybe we'll be the Warrior Sisters!

And I believe we would be in pretty good company with one other Warrior that I know of.


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It appears I too could be a warrior although I'm not 100% sure.  The Explorer type also matched me because I have extreme caffeine issues but didn't fit me at all with the secretor or rh factor. I too need to do a prop test to be sure.  The warrior diet didn't make me feel as rebellious as the
Explorer would.  These two diets seem to be extreme opposites with the animal protein
beneficials.   And the Warrior diet seems closer to the type A Blood type diet.


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I don't understand why you need the PROP test to be sure?  With the advanced charts, since you have your bt and sec status info, and your torso/leg/finger measurements, shouldn't you be able to know for sure?  Or have I missed something?


Embracing my A-ness! † †(Ok, that is waaaay better in print than it is out loud! † †)

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No Gumby, you didn't miss anything.  I did.  I got caught up in the strength testing charts and forgot all about my original GT which is Teacher.  Even though I test stronger in both Explorer and Warrior than Teacher, I am what I am.

Thanks for the question you posed.  It made me get back on track.  

Sorry Tomatilla, I really wanted to be your Warrior Sister!


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seems to be fine ..huh ...ahem
ok me I am a prob tester:....I prob tested nada ... a nonnie in deed here as well   

Mitchie, you are pardoned...of course ya are ...half of mine


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And we can still be Royals together.  


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sweety, I come back as usual to my A2B nonnie diet and a bit of superdouper mediteranian diet...what do I need more ....I feel lost and very very confused.... but i do have my private helper called Vegatester..
am I blind  


the *bon mot* " overtly resist change" seems to fit in...!!!


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No Isalein... you are not blind...   Resistant to change... perhaps  


But you are probably the most enigmatic of all of us. And I bet if anyone does, you have all the genotypes inside you... just like the enneagram.



and lucky you with your vegatester!!


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Quoted from Amazone I.
sweety, I come back as usual to my A2B nonnie diet and a bit of superdouper mediteranian diet...what do I need more ....I feel lost and very very confused.... but i do have my private helper called Vegatester..
am I blind  


the *bon mot* " overtly resist change" seems to fit in...!!!



AMEN to you.  I totally feel overwhelmed to be changing food choices again and will probably just give up all of this information in favor of following my own healthy, organic Mediterranean diet with lots of fruits and vegetables and live in my own little world of "FREEDOM TO EAT WHATEVER I WANT"  Sorry....it's been fun and interesting but I'm completely OUTTA HERE!
None of this makes any sense to me...IT's too theoretical...It's not a proven diet to prevent or fix any disease and nobody will ever know what my real genetic makeup is unless I do gene testing! I believed in the blood type diet for a short while and  with all this abrupt and sudden change, suddenly this just became too overwhelming for me.  I am choosing to wake up
tomorrow and once again be captain of my OWN ship!  I feel liberated!  I feel empowered
and and suddenly very mentally and physically healthy!

I wish you all the best of luck.  



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I am choosing to wake up tomorrow and once again be captain of my OWN ship!

What navigation charts are you going to use?



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Quoted from Chloe
I totally feel overwhelmed to be changing food choices again and will probably just give up all of this information in favor of following my own healthy, organic Mediterranean diet with lots of fruits and vegetables and live in my own little world of "FREEDOM TO EAT WHATEVER I WANT"  Sorry....it's been fun and interesting but I'm completely OUTTA HERE!  


Best of luck to you with your health and nutritional endeavors.  
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Hi Isa,
I tested too warrior as also my nephews testify in their body , blood group and mood, probably with a hint of teacher, but I save my turkey twice a week and an occasional roasted chicken or guinea hen.
I am happy with a little bit of tomato, bell peppers and eggplant. I summer it is precious to be able to eat them fres and tasty from the fields. It seems we have  more choices with GTD !!

happy new year as a new winning warrior !
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This little warrior wishes you and all your dear ones a Happy New Year and many others to come. Forgetting chicken for turkey I have gained back mussels, octopus and scallops; what a wonderful world !!!!

Maria Giovanna


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Fellow sister Amazons,

  I thought I was a teacher. I had my son measure me last night I was up at 11:30 trying to calculate... and I do have the narrow head, broad shoulders, long legs, short torso, ring finger longer on both hands...and I'm 5'7", considered tall.  He measured me and it seems I am a Warrior. (sigh) For a minute or less I thought I could eat more cheese.  

I am going to the clinic so I'll know for sure.  I haven't done the fingerprint part.
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We need more warriors! Warriors unite!
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Hi Mayflower,
we gained back also occasional tomato, eggplant and bell peppers, cheers, I am really satisfied !
Happy new year again
Maria Giovanna


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Measured.. and now I join the Warriors.

  Giving up chicken will be diffucult. I have known for about a year that I need to be a Pescatarian/vegetarian. This just confirms it for me.
  I do love tomato, espically home grown ones.
  dottie1


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I, too, guessed I was a Teacher, but after entering in my information into the GTD site, I have been assessed to be a Warrior. The Warrior profile fits me very well, and I'm happy to note that I can overcome the midlife bodily rebellion I am currently experiencing by following this new food therapy.  


Let go of resistance; feel appreciation for what is, and eagerness for what is coming.
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I am shocked that black tea is now a super beneficial.  

And so, so saddened to see chicken, blueberry, cherry, pineapple, jerusalem artichoke, broccoli, goat cheese, and pecurino go by the way-side, among other things. Oh my!


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I was shocked about the black tea as well.

I used to drink Bancha tea ( a type of green tea) when I was a child, my Mom would buy it. It came as little sticks that we put in hot water.
  I am not a great fan of black tea.
I guess I will stick to warm lime and water and coffee.
I did enjoy some cottage cheese with walnuts in it at lunch.

  I do not like green peppers or eggplant so.. I don't think I will be eating any of those.
How would you eat eggplant if it wasn't in eggplant parmagana?
Most of the high glycemic fruit is gone( due to the diabetic risk), my beloved pineapple, cherries and blueberries.

I do like grapefruit and will eat one a day when in season.

I also like cranberries. I buy quite a few bags over the winter and freeze them.
I cook them till soft and add them to all sorts of things.

I will miss Peter's input here on this forum, more then the food. ( I think I got it right, he will now be on the Genotype Forum, exclusively, right?)
dottie1




  



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make an eggplant dip! yummm!!


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Sorry folks. I just re-measured with the help of my mom and I am a Teacher, after all.


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I will miss Peter's input here on this forum, more then the food. ( I think I got it right, he will now be on the Genotype Forum, exclusively, right?)

Exclusively concerning GTD in terms of answering questions, but not BTD or off topic.



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I am a Teacher, after all.

how do you feel?


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Sorry folks. I just re-measured with the help of my mom and I am a Teacher, after all.


And once more with feeling....I am indeed a Warrior. I triple-checked my measurements, and filled out the on-line calculator, including the strength test, and I came up a clear Warrior.  

As I said in another post, I'm sorry to have to give up so many beloved foods, but I'm going to give it a shot to see how I fare.


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I just finished verifying that I am (for sure) a GT5 Warrior, based on my triple-checked measurements and the information in the book (GTD page 292). According to the chart, I cannot be any thing other than a Warrior.

I'm off to update my food lists...just when I had the BTD list memorized. Doh! Thank goodness the information is in Excel (easy to modify).

All this enthusiasm is great!


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I just joined the Warrior ranks...  

The food lists seem to reinforce what the body was telling me...  I don't need much meat.  Fish, vegetable protein, vegetables, fruits and a little bit of breads...  

There are a few surprises in the lists, but it may be due to individual characteristics.


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Welcome aboard, ABJoe! It sure is interesting having all different blood types in one genotype.


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I am shocked that black tea is now a super beneficial.  

And so, so saddened to see chicken, blueberry, cherry, pineapple, jerusalem artichoke, broccoli, goat cheese, and pecurino go by the way-side, among other things. Oh my!


I haven't been on the forums for a long while but still following BTD although I confess I have fallen off the wagon more than once, make that crashed the wagon...but maybe this will rekindle the fire.  AND hey what do you know Isa - I also made Warrior status!!!

On  the page I am looking at broccoli, pineapple and blueberry, at least, have a black dot besides them...doesn't this mean if you are not battling an illness and the weight is stable they are OK in modest amounts?

Jumping up and down with joy black tea, super beneficial and coffee OK  




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On  the page I am looking at broccoli, pineapple and blueberry, at least, have a black dot besides them...doesn't this mean if you are not battling an illness and the weight is stable they are OK in modest amounts?


Black dot foods can be eaten after 3-6 months on the GTD, in moderation, unless you are battling a weight problem or an illness.


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What navigation charts are you going to use?



Call it my "gut instinct navigational chart" and ironically, many of the foods that turned up beneficial for a Warrior, I'd been eating all along as a type A....my entire life...never have given them up even when they were blood type A avoids....Most of the type A foods were fine for me..I liked the A diet and will probably still stick with the basic premise of the diet because
it feels naturally suited for me........My intuition always overrides anything anyone
tells me or anything I read.  I know chicken was never a good food for me..I feel it in my
body...I never ate it as a  type A neutral and I haven't eaten much chicken in my lifetime..
nor beef...nor any meats...I never ate potatoes or bananas or many of the type A avoids
because these were always foods that felt wrong for me.....I know mostly all fish and seafood are fine for me, regardless of how it's listed, as long as it's low in heavy metals and PCBs I eat it....Only thing that causes me not to want to follow this new list of foods is the fact that I don't tolerate caffeine or any dairy and I'm gluten intolerant...Coffee is good for warriors but
I hate coffee and always did....I get to the point where I don't like being frustrated and don't like following rules to begin with...Perhaps that's the sign of a true warrior...I love the sound of my own drumming... and would sooner walk out of a room than stand and disagree with anyone. I also don't see how with this detailed configuring of my finger length,
my legs, my torso how we've already found out that Oprah Winfrey was one type and Hillary
Clinton a warrior.  HOW do we know this when these people haven't measured themselves?
And they aren't Dr. D's patients?  Or maybe they are, along with Winston Churchill...~



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According to my fingers, torso and legs...I'm a warrior.

When i noticed the blank spaces in red meat and poultry, it came as sort of a surprise.

However I was a vegetarian before BTD.

Looks like I'm back where i started.  This is kind of cool.

namaste
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Some meats and poultry are neutral so you can eat them occasionally as indicated by the frequency recommendations in the book.


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Not quite vegetarian Ruthie, the diet suggest several servings/week of fish. I will admit that you can count on your fingers of one hand the number of neutral meats, or poultry and times per week suggested.
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Welcome! We seem to be a minority, so glad to have another Warrior.


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Welcome! We seem to be a minority, so glad to have another Warrior.

Today I've enjoyed a couple of cups of 'real' tea, some slices of cantaloupe, some wholemeal toast, some bran cereal and an omelette flavoured with strips of anchovy.This time last week I
would have been out of my mind to indulge this way, but now I am enjoying items that I have forbidden myself for 6 years. Feels strange, but good. Giving up chicken is my biggest loss, but strangely the last chicken meal I had a week ago left me with stomach pains, so maybe the answer is as clear as that.
Turkey will be my standby for entertaining non-vegetarians so that I can join in.Not planning to use soy milk during this 3 month period, so am getting to know rice milk.
The whole thing is weird and wonderful.
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One thing that really resonates with me is the conclusion that Warriors are the most fertile of the genotypes.
I've had 5 kids and became pregnant with 2 of them while using contraception.  None of my friends reported this, and we were using the accepted device at the time.
As I said on another thread...my husband used to say I could get pregnant with his hanging his pants on the end of the bed.
Of course it took more than that!!
namaste
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Warrior typo
Whey protein powder yogurt
Should be:
Whey protein  
Yogurt


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Warrior typo
Whey protein powder yogurt
Should be: Whey protein,   Yogurt


To clarify, there should be two lines (two categories):

Whey protein powder
Yogurt
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Lloyd and Dottie...
Thanks and more thanks...I just about drove my HFS owner over the edge trying to locate this in her order books.
namaste
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According to reading the paragraghs about each tribe I think I am a warrior. I have not done the measurements yet. Even if we are allowed meat I will probably stay away from red meat & poultry.

I am at the middle age time where weight is becoming an issue. I used to could eat anything but now I have to be very careful. The aging part I have not discovered yet because I take care of myself.
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Quoted from BuzyBee
According to reading the paragraghs about each tribe I think I am a warrior. I have not done the measurements yet. Even if we are allowed meat I will probably stay away from red meat & poultry.

I am at the middle age time where weight is becoming an issue. I used to could eat anything but now I have to be very careful. The aging part I have not discovered yet because I take care of myself.


Hey baby, life is just beginning at your age!!! By all means be careful,but don't think of yourself as middle aged. You won't have enough words left for when you are 50,60,70,80,90
Cheers, Jenny




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Quoted from BuzyBee
According to reading the paragraghs about each tribe I think I am a warrior. I have not done the measurements yet. Even if we are allowed meat I will probably stay away from red meat & poultry.


Warriors are very limited on both the red meats and poultry that are not toxins and the frequncy for the few neutrals remaining.  

I'm trying to get the frequency amounts in line for the various food items, and find that the vegetable and fruit frequencies are very generous...  Even though I'm almost always eating from these catagories, it seems like I never exceed them.

The two foods I need to work harder to limit is broccoli and Ezekial bread.  They were beneficial before and now are black dot toxins.  I think broccoli is causing me some flatulance, so better to avoid it for a while to verify.  I haven't noticed a problem from the 100% sprouted bread, but to be more compliant and set a good example for my wife and daughter, it is important.


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Where are all the Warriors?

Are we shy?

It would be good to hear about our success with this new concept.  I am already seeing favorable results.

namaste
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Hi ruthie, another Warrior here. I'm doing great, eating more almonds and apples (on the BTD they were categorized as neutrals).


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The warrior population on the board seems to be significantly lower than what Dr D predicts for the general population, at least according to the census poll we have going.

Unless warriors are too shy to vote?  
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I think I'm a Warrior just by taking my finger measurements. But until I receive my book, which should be next weekend I won't know for sure.  

Laura


Warrior: Once you're faced with a challenge, you'll keep ramming a wall until you break through ó especially if that challenge is mental. Use your nimble mind and tenacity to conquer life and stick with your GenoType Diet. You're bound to succeed.
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Warriors are too busy out there defending the villages and homesteads.




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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Yikes!  What happened to all my chicken and turkey??    Yes, I see turkey is a neutral but only 0 to 2 times per week.    I'll survive, but I'm not so sure Warrior is right for me.  I've had some doubts about my upper leg measurement.  I will take that issue to another thread more appropriate for measurement questions.  
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Hi Shazamda ,
I  teacher instead would have been a warrior; chocolate, eggplant, Mussels, Octopus and scallops were good trade for me to lose chicken.
I must check better too for a lot of reason. I hope to know for sure what I am teacher or warrior or Il'll get identity doubt !!
Maria Giovanna


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Iím a warrior.  Typical Type A.  This new book has made me skeptical.  The BTD made me feel great.  I donít get why the changes in foods if the foods were already tested for Blood Type. Read the book but just donít get it!  Loretta
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Quoted from Lloyd
The warrior population on the board seems to be significantly lower than what Dr D predicts for the general population, at least according to the census poll we have going.

Unless warriors are too shy to vote?  


Perhaps it's like Dr. D says in the GTD book, he rarely sees Warriors before middle age.  They never seem to get sick and are too busy getting on with life.  Of course, the inevitable downfall occurs.  Maybe those warriors are all sitting in their docs offices now, not realizing GTD would be the perfect medicine for them.


99.8% sure I'm a Nomad.
I think........
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What a surprise to find that I'm a Warrior Woman!!
So far I've found Drea...and Ruthie...anymore of us out there??


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  So, Janet, you finally got your book, eh?  GREAT!  Welcome to Warriorhood!  I hope you enjoy it!

  (Don't mind me, I'll just be over here, gathering...)


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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Nope...PT...still waiting for the BOOK...new one mailed today!
Hope you Gathers are having fun out there


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Janet...mayflowers and dottie have posted.
Isa began a thread, but i don't think she believes that is right for her.
Perhaps we are shy.
I read that there are several on the other site.

I love the diet!
namaste
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Hi Ruthi...I'm still looking through the food lists...not too sure? But I'm sure it's for my own interest.
Was Isa's thread about Warriors? I started this one because Drea didn't think there were any?


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Do a search.


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Just found Ruthie's...maybe the mods can marry them up?


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Done!


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Drea..thanks, I found Isa's too...please!


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Done!


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Any other Warriors lurking about?


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Any other Warriors lurking about?

Yep, I've been nipping around the Warrior GTD site, and this one too. Nice to see all the familiar names. I love the community and friendship, and my day always starts with a check in to look at the latest discussions. I must admit that now I tend to focus on Warrior threads, but it is nice that old friends across the border still come visiting.
Jenny



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Quoted from Drea
Any other Warriors lurking about?


Yes, I'm a Warrior, but I am not sure the Warrior diet is better for me than the type A diet.
Here's why.   I fit the description of much of the Explorer's weaknesses...the caffeine sensitivity,
the chemical sensitivity...the quirky reactions to foods and the environment...YET, I'm a
secretor and I've got A positive blood.  THAT doesn't fit an Explorer.  My measurements fit
a Warrior.

How do other As who are Warriors feel about the Warrior diet suiting them better than the
type A diet?




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I've only been following the GTD diet for a little more than a week, but so far, I've been able to keep the weight that I lost just before the NY off and have not felt deprived. For me, the BTD just wasn't letting me lose the stress weight that I gained over the last two years, whereas the GTD seems to. But I think it may be too early to tell for sure.


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Quoted from Chloe



How do other As who are Warriors feel about the Warrior diet suiting them better than the
type A diet?



Although I was shocked at the changes in the food lists at first,(losing some, gaining some), I am now reconciled and really enjoying it all.I should be, but am not interested in losing weight, just want to have all the other aspects of good health. It is a thrill to be looking forward to some favourite foods after the 3-6 month detox.While BTD gave me 80% satisfaction, I sense that this will be even better.




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Hi Jenny, that sounds very positive! I'm going to wait for my book and then maybe visit to GTD site...I just don't know enough yet.

Drea...what foods have you found that are really making the difference to you - weight wise??


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I seem to be measuring a Warrior too, but it doesn't make sense.  I'm going to get my husband to remeasure me tonight.  


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Quoted from Ribbit
I seem to be measuring a Warrior too, but it doesn't make sense.  I'm going to get my husband to remeasure me tonight.  


Good idea. I tried measuring myself twice: once a Teacher, once a Warrior, then back to a Teacher, and now finally a Warrior. I seem to be doing well on that plan, which is good.


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I feel like I could sing with Marilyn Monroe...'Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend'.  My wiggle is even coming back but not quite like hers.  Hey 40 or 50 years does make a slight difference.
I love the diamonds in my list of things to eat.
So you have to change your foods...so what!
I say get with the program and don't look back.

namaste
ruthie


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Well, he did measure me last night.  Problem is, I don't have any Warrior characteristics.  So I read the thread on measuring your lower leg length and I took an inch off that measurement, which puts me as a Teacher.  But when I did the Strength Meter, I don't fit a single one at all.  I'm really confused.  Maybe I should read every single thread on the GTD during the day and remeasure tonight.  Maybe that'll help.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Quoted from Ribbit
So I read the thread on measuring your lower leg length and I took an inch off that measurement...


I don't understand. Why would you take an inch off this measurement?


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OK Mike...can we take it that you're NOT a Warrior...???
actually...that was really funny...
And it's actually very true except even at my age...I'm doing pretty well
Not that this matters to anyone else but I still have naturally blonde hair...no grey or white!!


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I just LOVE it!  I  have to tell you that that video really was so funny and sweet and whoever you are that posted that, you are a doll.

I feel your pain...



FRESH START TODAY!!!
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That was pretty funny.

I "took an inch off" my lower leg length because after reading all the discussion about how to measure your legs, I realized we'd measured the wrong bump outside my knee.  My husband has a really prominant, boney bump, but I have none at all.  It's just smooth, and even poking around it was really hard to locate anything.  My legs are really skinny, but even then it was hard to find.  So after I looked at all the diagrams, I realized that we'd measured to the wrong boney bump, but with that change, my genotype made even less sense.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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the warrior's tale is really funny....the kid strikes just the right note. Its called "Genotype from Hell"...ya gotta laugh! Any type could be dramatized similarly...
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OK Mike...can we take it that you're NOT a Warrior...???
actually...that was really funny...
And it's actually very true except even at my age...I'm doing pretty well
Not that this matters to anyone else but I still have naturally blonde hair...no grey or white!!


quintessential hunter


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Quoted from Ribbit
That was pretty funny.

I "took an inch off" my lower leg length because after reading all the discussion about how to measure your legs, I realized we'd measured the wrong bump outside my knee.  My husband has a really prominant, boney bump, but I have none at all.  It's just smooth, and even poking around it was really hard to locate anything.  My legs are really skinny, but even then it was hard to find.  So after I looked at all the diagrams, I realized that we'd measured to the wrong boney bump, but with that change, my genotype made even less sense.


That explains things for me, Ribbit. I hope you find the answers you are looking for regarding your type. Let us know if we can help in any way.



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Quoted from sue_ab


I haven't been on the forums for a long while but still following BTD although I confess I have fallen off the wagon more than once, make that crashed the wagon...but maybe this will rekindle the fire.  AND hey what do you know Isa - I also made Warrior status!!!

On  the page I am looking at broccoli, pineapple and blueberry, at least, have a black dot besides them...doesn't this mean if you are not battling an illness and the weight is stable they are OK in modest amounts?

Jumping up and down with joy black tea, super beneficial and coffee OK  



Hi Sue, I'm a Warrior too, how about Taswolf? Isn't it remarkable to drink black tea, and enjoy so many treats now, with tomatoes and eggplant to look forward to down the line.
I am really cool with the idea that changes occur, otherwise why would science go on trying? Maybe there have been mistakes in the food testing, or maybe its just that taking all the other genes into account, there had to be some re-adjustments.
Cheers,
Jenny Warrior(ex Melbourne, now Canberra)




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OMG....I was rolling on the floor...This is the cutest, funniest guy ever..I want to grab him and give him a big hug....Don't miss this!



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HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! That was so cute.  That kid has talent!


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I've printed off the food list, so I'm OK with all of that but one question (because I still don't have my book yet! ) Where it says "Toxins to limit or avoid"...what exactly does that mean?
a) these foods are toxic and should be avoided?
or
b) these foods are toxic, so limit your consumpution?
The reason I ask is because it also gives a "Fequency: 0-1 times weekly/0-2 times weekly"
Sure would like some opinions, thanks.


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Alright.  Here's my problem.  We remeasured this morning after I read all the threads about measuring legs.  With my upper leg kind of stretched out....

Here's what we have:
Torso longer than legs
Upper leg (15 in) longer than lower leg (14 in)
index fingers longer than ring fingers
A
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Strength test: 0

If I have a strength test of 0, I have to assume I did the measurements wrong.  So I change my foot placement so my foot is directly below my knee, and then my upper leg measures equal to my lower leg...

So then we have:
Torso longer than legs
Lower leg (14 in) longer than/equal to upper leg (14 in)
index fingers longer than ring fingers
A
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nonnie
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Strength test:15

The problem is, I believe the correct measurements were choice #1, putting my upper leg longer than my lower leg, yet the strength test is 0.  Should I assume I'm measuring incorrectly and go with the Warrior diet?  Or should I go with the Teacher diet, even though I test 0?


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Hi Rabbit...that's what I was told...torso longer than legs and idex fingers longer than ring = Warrior.
I haven't done any strength tests as yet...

BTW...I had the same problem with not being able to find that bone just below the knee...not much meat on my legs either, but Joseph's was very prominent! Must be the difference between male and females.
But anyway...my torso was longer so an inch or so wouldn't have made any difference.


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So, all things taken into consideration, my upper leg being longer than my lower leg wouldn't throw me into the Teacher category?


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Nope...seems to be about torso vs legs + fingers.

Well, I was checked by Susana and Drea...both said I was a Warrior Woman!!
Actually, I thought I would be a Teacher according to the discription of the quesionaire on the GTD website but seems not when it comes to the measurements...I'm not.


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So, all things taken into consideration, my upper leg being longer than my lower leg wouldn't throw me into the Teacher category?


I wish I could help you, but I gave away my copy of the GTD last night. I have another copy back in NM, if I ever get back...long story.


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Drea...do you know the answer to my question on post 84??
Sure would appreciate it


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I've printed off the food list, so I'm OK with all of that but one question (because I still don't have my book yet! ) Where it says "Toxins to limit or avoid"...what exactly does that mean?
a) these foods are toxic and should be avoided?
or
b) these foods are toxic, so limit your consumpution?
The reason I ask is because it also gives a "Fequency: 0-1 times weekly/0-2 times weekly"
Sure would like some opinions, thanks.


Janet, I treat the toxins as avoids; with the exception of the black dot foods which can be re-incorporated back into our diets after a period of 3-6 months, unless we are battling an illness or are gaining weight. Does this answer your question?
I think the answer is yes to both...



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Yes, I think so...
It's just about me liking some lamb/goat/venison! I just feel the need to eat a very small amount about ONCE every couple of weeks. Have to say that I have no ill effects from this amount, so shall probably continue.
Thanks Drea.


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Alright.  Here's my problem.  We remeasured this morning after I read all the threads about measuring legs.  With my upper leg kind of stretched out....

Here's what we have:
Torso longer than legs
Upper leg (15 in) longer than lower leg (14 in)
index fingers longer than ring fingers
A
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nonnie
Teacher

Strength test: 0

If I have a strength test of 0, I have to assume I did the measurements wrong.  So I change my foot placement so my foot is directly below my knee, and then my upper leg measures equal to my lower leg...

So then we have:
Torso longer than legs
Lower leg (14 in) longer than/equal to upper leg (14 in)
index fingers longer than ring fingers
A
+
nonnie
Warrior

Strength test:15

The problem is, I believe the correct measurements were choice #1, putting my upper leg longer than my lower leg, yet the strength test is 0.  Should I assume I'm measuring incorrectly and go with the Warrior diet?  Or should I go with the Teacher diet, even though I test 0?


If you are using the advanced tables the strength test does not apply. The strength test would only apply if one or more items for the advanced table was in doubt.

If you feel the leg measurement is in doubt, then you could use the strength test to tie-break. If the lengths really are equal, I would suggest giving Teacher a try for a while.

It is likely that there will be a few people who are on the 'cusp' and would do better on the diet not indicated but the vast majority should find the 'tie' rule to work properly.
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Yes, I think so...
It's just about me liking some lamb/goat/venison! I just feel the need to eat a very small amount about ONCE every couple of weeks. Have to say that I have no ill effects from this amount, so shall probably continue.
Thanks Drea.


I'm the same way girl. I feel I need some meat once in awhile too. I like venison. I won't eat a goat or a lamb. They're too cute.  Like my avatar?
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Whew.  There's some real big differences between the Teacher and the Warrior diets.  I guess I'll take Lloyd's advice and do the Teacher diet for a couple of weeks and see what happens.  But how do I tell the difference between a detox reaction, which it looks like I should maybe expect one, and a toxic reaction, if I'm ingesting a bunch of new foods that might be avoids for me?  

I am the Teacher when it comes to the Psychological aspects, but none of the Biometric and Biochemical aspects.  I have all the strengths and weaknesses of a Teacher.  I am a Warrior when it comes to Biometric and Biochemical, but not Psychological.  

Alright, maybe I should try being a Teacher.


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I'm the same way girl. I feel I need some meat once in awhile too. I like venison. I won't eat a goat or a lamb. They're too cute.  Like my avatar?

Had a small amount of venison today...yummy!!

Oh...Mayflower...you made me laugh...lamb and goat..cute?
What about Bambi??

Rabbit...just go for it!!



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Had a small amount of venison today...yummy!!

Oh...Mayflower...you made me laugh...lamb and goat..cute?
What about Bambi??

Rabbit...just go for it!!



I realized that after I posted...cute little babie dear..
I watched a travel show on Italy, (I'm 1/2 Italian) and they showed, in the market place there, at Easter time, butchered lambs for sale. It broke my heart.  I never did like mutton or lamb even before I saw that. I'm not a big red meat eater...Once in awhile, I'll have a yen...  My sister who is the same BT loves to eat lamb and red meat. I think I'm pretty Warrior-ish.  And Goats with those cute long  little ears, and goatee. Baaaaaa!  

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"Any other Warriors lurking about?"

"How do other As who are Warriors feel about the Warrior diet suiting them better than the
type A diet?"

Here I am, another Warrior.
  I think the only non-secretor Warrior (so far?)  The Warrior Diet is exciting to me because it's a new way of eating and thinking about food. The idea of thinking about what to eat because it is good for me rather than to avoid certain foods makes a difference for me. Now that chicken is not on my list of beneficials  I eat fish, tofu, beans and nuts and all the other foods that are good for me. Perhaps this diet will suit me better because I'm now ready to follow it better. Right now i really have a need to improve my diet. I'm experiencing that middle age falling apart that happens to Warriors. I'd been holding it together up until last year about a year ago when I ruptured my quadicep tendon, had surgery, and recovery was slow( 4 months off my feet 9 months of physical therapy). My energy is not where it used to be. I'm going to focus on my Warrior diet, do my best not to over exercise, and take my supplements.
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I'm still quaking in my boots in indecision.  This may not seem like it's that big a deal, because after all, I can just try one diet and see how it is, and if I feel terrible, I can switch to the other, right?  

But here's what's going on (besides the insanity of having 3 children under 5 in the house).  I've been feeling really awful for about a couple of weeks.  I feel like I'm in a constant state of "crash mode" that I can't pull myself out of.  And I don't know what to eat.  Before, I'd eat lentils--they were like my cure-all and I'd always feel better and have plenty of energy.  But it's not working now.  I'm not really sick, but I just don't feel good.  Ever since we had that stomach virus over Christmas, the whole family (mostly just the children) have had nasty gas and probiotics haven't helped.  I didn't get the virus all that bad.  I never actually threw up, but I felt nauseated and ran a fever.  But it's like my body just can't quite shake it or something.  My stomach has hurt for a month now (and no, I'm not pregnant again....I don't think....).  And here looms the idea of totally revamping my diet, which would be fine if I knew for sure what category I fell into and which diet to follow!  I'm just really bummed right now.  I need some encouragement.  Help!  

Maybe somebody could answer this for me.  (Where's Isa when I need her?)  As an ISTJ, is there more of a chance that I'm a Warrior or a Teacher, if I'm right on the edge length-wise?  


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Alright.  Here's my problem.  We remeasured this morning after I read all the threads about measuring legs.  With my upper leg kind of stretched out....

Upper leg (15 in) longer than lower leg (14 in)
Teacher

So I change my foot placement so my foot is directly below my knee, and then my upper leg measures equal to my lower leg...

So then we have:
Lower leg (14 in) longer than/equal to upper leg (14 in)
Warrior


I am having a hard time knowing what you mean about your leg measurements...not sure how you are 'stretching your upper leg out' that would change when you 'put your foot below your knee'.  Do you mean that you are stretching your entire leg out at the knee?  If I do that, it makes my upper leg length shorter, not longer, as the knee cap moves up.  So I am a bit confused by what you mean and I just can't get a visual.

In the video, they show that the measuring is done with both the hip and the knee at 90 degrees, so I would go with whichever ratio you get when you are sitting like that.  That would be my guess anyway.  I hope you get it figured out soon so you can get to feeling better.


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Right.  When I stretch my leg out, it makes my upper leg "longer."  I guess the angle makes the difference, I don't know.  If hip and knee are at right angles, both are 14", and the tie would go to lower leg, making me a Warrior then?


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Don't worry Rib, viruses hang on for a few weeks. Don't change your eating too much till you feel better. Have some elderberry tea every day. It kills viruses.
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Ribbit, listen to Mayflowers about the elderberry!!!! It is one marvelous supplement. I have everybody I know believing in elderberry. That is the absolute first (cheap) line of defense against viruses IMO. There are additional things you could take but try the elderberry first. If you are a warrior, I know it won't hurt you because I take it all the time. We can understand your frustration at this point only too well!   I do wish you had some of Dr. D's ARA to take too. That really gives me a tremendous boost - every time. About the elderberry - when people ask me how much to take I tell them I keep taking it until I feel better. Like every two hours or so.
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I really hope you're feeling better soon Rabbit ...I guess it's that time of year...and with little ones too, I know my daughter has the same problem

I've just spend time making myself a list...
And to be honest I can't see that I'm going to have any problems switching to GTD.
Many of the foods that I shouldn't have been eating (btd ) are now black dots...so, that's OK because I knew they were OK for me.
And the ones that are now 'limit' are things I don't eat too often anyway or I know don't agree with me and so never touch!
So...it's business as usual for me...no wonder I feel so well and happy
Anybody else making progress??


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Thanks, y'all.  It's off to my little local HFS to get some more elderberry.  I took it when I was sick but stopped when I finished the bottle.  I do know also that this time of year has always been the worst for me in the mood area.  I have to force myself to go outside and be in the sun every day or I get really depressed.  I skipped supper last night and just ate a handful of pecans, and I feel a little better this morning.

I know I'd decided to go with the Teacher diet, but I think I've changed my mind.  After looking at all the evidence again, it just makes more sense for me to try the Warrior diet first.  So I scanned in the lists and printed them out, and I'll keep them on me at all times.


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So far it looks like I am a warrior also. My biggest problem to believing this is that when I was young I wasn't very muscular or lean. But when I went through menopause I exploded! So maybe that makes it believable. After the first of the year , with retireing, I decided to concentrate more on getting a healthy mind, body and soul. I also decided to go full-blown vegetarian due to humane issues.This diet will really be a challenge for me. For one thing my bread choices are limited ( I have white lines all over my fingertips ). But this is great in a way because I was eating far to many goodies. Next time I go shopping I will stock up and see how this thing works!...Aani  


Listen, this is what I think: I think we can't go around measuring our goodness by what we don't do, by what we deny ourselves, what we resist, and who we exclude. I think we've got to measure goodness by what we embrace, what we create, and who we include. Pere Henri (Chocolat)
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Quoted from Ribbit

I know I'd decided to go with the Teacher diet, but I think I've changed my mind.  After looking at all the evidence again, it just makes more sense for me to try the Warrior diet first.  So I scanned in the lists and printed them out, and I'll keep them on me at all times.


Keep us posted on your progress, OK?



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Ribbit, have you tried Vitamin D for the winter blues? Omega 3 in all that fish will cheer you up too. I am still taking my usual three caps a day of Omega 3. It is a great mood lifter!!
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Yessssss.  Less than a full day on the Warrior diet and my bowels are happy.  I've had the biggest, easiest bm in the history of Ribbit-kind.  Thanks to the BTD I no longer was constipated, but it still took longer than I wanted it to, and it certainly wasn't all in one piece.  Which means maybe I was still constipated, but at least I went everyday!  Now.....good things are happening in the Southern regions.  I tried Yerba Mate at lunch and although I can't say I'm crazy about the flavor (I got peach-ginger), I feel pretty good.  Nice and empty down below.  


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Spring,

I'm eating a lot of salmon.  Canned salmon is our usual breakfast, so I get it 3-4 mornings a week.  

I figure I'm getting the Vit. D when I go outside every day.  Maybe I need more.


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Rabbit..Canned Salmon for breakfast...what do you do with it?? I'm serious, I only ever have it in a salad!

I agree about the fish oils, I take salmon oil daily and also a Vit D supp with my calcuim but I live in a mostly sunny country so shouldn't be short of Vit D,


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Happy to read I am not the only one trying to decide if
I am a Warrior or Explorer.

My lower leg is slightly longer than my upper leg.
(Lower: 37cm, Upper: 36cm)
My torso is longer than legs.
Sometimes I can tolerate coffee (in small amounts.)
I have a square jaw, broad head, meso...whatever body,
and what I can discern from the fingerprints is 4 out
of five match. I think mainly loop. Index of left hand
is whorl and right hand is loop. All else is I think loop
except for baby fingers (not sure whorls or arches).
Cancer and heart disease, stroke run in the family. Oh,
and my index fingers on both hands are longer.

Haven't taken the PROP test, but I usually do not choose
bitter tastes.

Strength tests  would indicate initially Explorer, but my
lower legs are slightly longer. That would make me a
Warrior.

Still working on this and feel quite frustrated right at the moment.



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Northstar, somebody will be along to help you out like they did me.  I know it's frustrating.

Janet, my children eat salmon straight from the can, but it's taken a while to get them there.  Usually I make salmon patties by stirring an egg and enough flour of some sort (millet or rice works fine) to thicken it a little, then you make little patties out of it and fry in olive oil.  

These are very quick to make.  In fact, it's like our fall-back plan when I've had a really rough day, or if we've been out of the house and only get home at 6:30 pm and we have to eat RIGHT NOW.  They only take a few minutes to whip up, so they're great for hurried suppers or breakfast.  Also, it doesn't take too much longer to double the recipe and stick some in the fridge.  They're really good cold as a snack or for lunch.


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Thanks for the support!

I retook the measurements, based on watching the video and
what bloggers have been saying. If I measure just outside
the kneecap to the crease, closest to the hip bone, it turns
out my upper leg is slightly longer. Still a little confused
about measuring the legs even after reading the entries in
Measuring your Legs.Sigh.

I just drank a cup of coffee to see what effect it will have on me when I go to bed in 30 minutes. I have had mixed reviews
with coffee. If I drink to much I get heart palipations, but
one cup does not seem to bother me too much. Basically, I have
given up coffee so it will be interesting to see what the results are. Hope I am not up all night.

But reading the entries, I notice that if you are A+ you are
either Teacher or Warrior. Which you are depends on the leg
measurements. Still can't help thinking about the index
fingers which are typical of Explorer.

I am beginning to wonder if I am a nonsecretor. Definitely have
problems with the digestive system when I eat wheat and products with wheat in it.

The BTD was so much easier to figure out.

Well, hopefully someone will read this and I'll have more info
tomorrow.  

P.S. I am not new to the site, just using a different computer
and had trouble logging in. Just northstar here.   Apologies for the confusion.
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The canned salmon thing is a really good suggestion.  I am a Hunter as is (most likely - I'm eyeballing here, but am very good at such things from having to pick out good horses most of my life) DH and daughter.

Daughter is a pain in the butt.  9 years old, skinny, ambitious, active, doesn't like food very much unless it is way off of the BTD/ GTD.  Protein is a real challenge.  She likes hamburgers. Maybe - MAYBE - I can convince her to try a salmon patty.  She'll probably gag and spit it out, but it's worth a try.

Quoted from Ribbit
Northstar, somebody will be along to help you out like they did me.  I know it's frustrating.

Janet, my children eat salmon straight from the can, but it's taken a while to get them there.  Usually I make salmon patties by stirring an egg and enough flour of some sort (millet or rice works fine) to thicken it a little, then you make little patties out of it and fry in olive oil.  

These are very quick to make.  In fact, it's like our fall-back plan when I've had a really rough day, or if we've been out of the house and only get home at 6:30 pm and we have to eat RIGHT NOW.  They only take a few minutes to whip up, so they're great for hurried suppers or breakfast.  Also, it doesn't take too much longer to double the recipe and stick some in the fridge.  They're really good cold as a snack or for lunch.




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hmmm, the psychological part is not as reliable a the incontrovertible evidence of biometrics. If I had read the BTD without knowing my blood type I would have thought I was an A...for sure!!! I had been a vegetarian for 26 years.....don;t like exercize.....etc.
Same for GTD....if I didn't know my bloodtype I would be lost. Not that biometrics is easy....I find myself barely a gatherer what with one hand hard to measure due to arthritis....
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Spring,

I'm eating a lot of salmon.  Canned salmon is our usual breakfast, so I get it 3-4 mornings a week.  

I figure I'm getting the Vit. D when I go outside every day.  Maybe I need more.

Problem with salmon for Warriors now is that while Alaskan and Sockeye are superfoods, Atlantic is a toxin, and the cans don't seem to differentiate. does anyone know what is in the cans generally?
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Problem with salmon for Warriors now is that while Alaskan and Sockeye are superfoods, Atlantic is a toxin, and the cans don't seem to differentiate. does anyone know what is in the cans generally?
Jenny


I can buy cans of salmon (says Alaska on lid) here but they are from the UK...Spain don't seem to be into canned salmon?? Anyway, it's expensive (imported) and OH!!! I hate those bones and slimy grey skin...takes me ages to separate it all...can't imagine getting that together in a rush!!


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I hate those bones and slimy grey skin...takes me ages to separate it all.


My thoughts exactly!    



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Well, my strength test indicates I should be an Explorer or Teacher, but the lower legs are slightly longer than the upper ones and I am A+, so I guess that makes me a Warrior? Well, I still think I might possibly be an Explorer, but my diet is closer to the Warrior one. I also had to give up wheat because I get gas after eating products with wheat them. Guess what, white lines on my fingers confirm that I need to stay away from
the wheat!

So, just want to connect with fellow Warriors out there.  


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Here I am, The Reluctant, Tentative Worrier.  Warrior.  Whatever it is I am.  I don't fit nicely into any of the categories either, Northstar, which frustrates me, but hey--it's okay.

Why seperate the skin and bones out of the salmon?  They're good for you.  All those oils in the skin, and the calcium in the bones.  When I was little, my siblings and I called the bones "treasures."  We would get very excited when we found a treasure.  Now my children do the same, after I explained to them that these are good bones, not the kind you have to pull out.  Now they collect the treasures out of the patties and save them in a little pile to eat last.


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Ribbit, my youngest son always came along while I was making salmon and ate all the bones right then! I don't think my oldest son would have touched them with a pole! Anyway, some people have a really strong aversion to all that fairly gruesome stuff in canned salmon, so, rather than avoiding it altogether, I think using boneless would be a good choice for them. All the salmon I use list on the can where it came from. I absolutely LOVE salmon!  
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I've only just checked out the foods lists for non-Hunters and you Warriors certainly seem to have drawn the short straw.  No meat and no poultry.  I like fish but not all day every day.  Teachers don't seem to be much better off so, in future, I'll just be grateful for the things I can have!












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Okay, one of you moderators, I have a question about something I just noticed: What does "0-2 times weekly" mean under Poultry for Warriors? It must mean SOMETHING!!! I also notice that under toxins it mentions to "limit." So does this mean I won't die if I eat chicken or Guinea pig, oh, I meant hen twice a week? This is mostly in fun, but I would like an answer to this question.  
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it just means you might want to look for better protein options for your gt, like fish perhaps.


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I've only just checked out the foods lists for non-Hunters and you Warriors certainly seem to have drawn the short straw.  No meat and no poultry.  I like fish but not all day every day.  Teachers don't seem to be much better off so, in future, I'll just be grateful for the things I can have!


Rusty,
It only looks like the short straw to someone who should be eating differently!  I was already finding, with the AB diet, that I didn't desire to have red meat except maybe once a month; and turkey only one meal per week.  I eat fish one meal almost every day and fill in with legumes and nuts.  It is very satisfying.  

I am still making some adjustments and changing some ingredients here and there, but after about two weeks of eating Warrior foods, I am feeling more stable.  I am still detoxing garbage from before BTD, so have some ups and downs, but life is much more even than even three weeks ago...  Hopefully this will continue as I get more Warrior compliant - I use up the foods that I have for AB that are black dot for Warrior...



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Hello, Guys!
I am a newbie. In fact, I don't even have the Genotype book, yet....$ problems, but hope to get it in 2 weeks. I am 42, and struggling with fatigue and adrenal burnout. I am an A1 Secretor. I am sure I am a Warrior, not a Teacher. Woiuld y'all, as we say in the South, help me out a little? Maybe you guys can just give me some basics in my diet to get me started. I PROMISE I'll buy the book soooon. Maybe I can find out from someone here-what meas can we have? Also, I want to stay away from heavy metals-do cans give us toxins, or, do I not ned to worry-are aluminum cans a cncern? Maybe I can just get sme basics. Also-do I need to get off chicken? What fish or othe meats can I have? Veggies-fruit-nuts-just a few basics is all I ask.I undersand, tea is fine? Black tea? I love black tea. Grains? I sure appreciate it, guys. I hope to be working next week, then, buy book. Cheers, fellow Warriors!
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I've printed off the food list, so I'm OK with all of that but one question (because I still don't have my book yet! ) Where it says "Toxins to limit or avoid"...what exactly does that mean?
a) these foods are toxic and should be avoided?
or
b) these foods are toxic, so limit your consumpution?
The reason I ask is because it also gives a "Fequency: 0-1 times weekly/0-2 times weekly"
Sure would like some opinions, thanks.


Janet,
I take the satatement to mean that these foods should not be eaten.  Of course, this is subject to individuality, but try the diet without any foods from the Toxin tables for 3 to 6 months to allow the body to stabilize and heal, then possibly include the black dot items in a limited fashion.

I understand the frequency indicators to show how many times we should eat portions of each type item and the focus should be on Superfoods, less on Neutrals, and even less on black dot Toxins.  We shouldn't eat foods from the Toxin table that don't have a black dot.



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I assumed that we could eat such non-avoid poultry such as turkey 0-2 times weekly.  (Throws you off a little when it's not listed, doesn't it?)

Famlovpc, you might want to go check out the genotype website for complete lists if you don't have the book yet, or just wait for the book.  The Warrior diet is a lot different from the A diet.


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I hear ya, Ribbit.

On a different note, regarding the canned salmon, here in Japan
they the salmon and bones. The bones are easy to eat and quite
crunchy. This is for the calcium.

So, is this the official Warrior blog? I am wondering where all
the Warriors are? Still coming to terms with the new diet? Anyone sign up for the Genodiet on Dr. Ds website. I would like to know how it is. (Still on the fence in regard to joining or not.)



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Hi, guys...famlovpc again1 i was reading that for warriors, the torso has to be longer than the legs length from a person who posted here..can't  find it now. i don't have book yet. I am an A+ secretor. My legs are longer than my torso. I am lean muscular and long-legged. i don't know how to measure fingers yet-before me go any further....what's up with me having long legs and a relatively short torso-does that mean teacher? Remember, don't have book yet.
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Quoted from Lola
it just means you might want to look for better protein options for your gt, like fish perhaps.


Nope, I don't think it means that at all. I think it means 0-2 times per week, and if it doesn't, why under the sun are the words there? The red meats, etc., say 0-1 times per week. So that really tells me that this means something. I don't plan to eat any red meat for the rest of my life, let alone once per week - so that is no problem. But I am wondering about the poultry. I don't like any of the foods on the poultry list, anyway, except chicken and quail, and I don't have any notions about eating either of them often, but I would like to know what he means by this notation in this book. I think we have a right to know that.
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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results. But if you'd like to eat something from that food group you shouldn't have more then 2 servings a week.
As for the toxins, I assume it is only the black dot items that are allowed in limited amounts. But not till after the 3-6 month period. How much a limited amount would be though, I have no idea  



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Hi, guys...famlovpc again1 i was reading that for warriors, the torso has to be longer than the legs length from a person who posted here..can't  find it now. i don't have book yet. I am an A+ secretor. My legs are longer than my torso. I am lean muscular and long-legged. i don't know how to measure fingers yet-before me go any further....what's up with me having long legs and a relatively short torso-does that mean teacher? Remember, don't have book yet.


This is not enough info to go on.
You really need to measure your fingers and your upper and lower legs. It is quite easy and while you are waiting for the
book you can see how by looking on UTube.

For the fingers use a short ruler and measure from the bottom
of the finger to the top. Measure both the index and ring fingers for both hands.

The legs are a bit more complicated and there is a blog on how
to measure your legs. I suggest you read that. Do the measuring
in bare feet sitting down. Your legs should be 90 degrees.

Once you have more info let us know. Also, are you A+ or A-?
Are you sensitive to coffee? (Keeps you up if you drink a cup
or two at night.)If you know your secretor status that would
help also.

Good luck!








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Hello, there, in Japan! Yep-will grab the measuring tape and ust saw videos. Will put it up here tonight in a few or tomorrow. I am an A1+ Secretor. Coffee...my adrenal is shot, but even so,yeah-at my healthiest state, it would keep me up at night. If you have any respons to this that'd be great. Gonna grab measuring tape now......
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Okay-I'm an A1+ Secreor, long legs, short torso, longer ring fingers than index, and it would appear, upper and lower legs are each about 15". The lower leg wasn't a problem to measure, but the upper leg was. Does on have to be longer than the other?
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I've only just checked out the foods lists for non-Hunters and you Warriors certainly seem to have drawn the short straw.  No meat and no poultry.  


Actually, turkey is a neutral, but I'm not a big fan of red meat anyway.



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Hi. I am just not seeing the blog about leg measuring. I believe my upper and lower are even. I had a hard time on upper. Can someone te;l me where the blog is and/or a really specific place to measure on upper leg?I saw video If they are both even, do you give it to one or the other, a greater value?
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Looks like your a Warrior famlovpc. Female A+ secretors with longer legs then torso, longer ring fingers on both hands are warriors no matter what the leg measurements.



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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results. But if you'd like to eat something from that food group you shouldn't have more then 2 servings a week.
As for the toxins, I assume it is only the black dot items that are allowed in limited amounts. But not till after the 3-6 month period. How much a limited amount would be though, I have no idea  

What Heidi said.  


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What Heidi said.  


I assume that ALL those items are toxins so I think the notation should have said 0 times per week. But maybe Dr. D. is giving a tiny bit of leeway here to keep from coming across as a hard taskmaster since the "poor" Warriors can't have any awful red meat or mostly unpalatable poultry! Situations are hard sometimes, ya know! Yesterday I went to lunch with two other girls. They wanted Mexican so that is where we went. What am I supposed to do - watch them eat? Corn, corn everywhere, at least where there wasn't beef and chicken, and a buffet of avoids a mile long. I had one measly taco (avoid) with chicken (avoid) lettuce (super) a tad of sour cream (avoid) and, glory hallelujah, PINTOS (super, A-Okay!) So there I was with all avoids except two superfoods. I immediately took a Deflect and hoped for the best. I came home and downed a huge super-duper NAP protein drink loaded with fruit and whey protein. I'm gradually getting over the Mexican meal.  I hadn't eaten a taco in at least twelve years. Used to be my all time favorite fast food. They need to start serving turkey in those places and legal tacos!!!! They should know better!!!  
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Okay-I'm an A1+ Secreor, long legs, short torso, longer ring fingers than index, and it would appear, upper and lower legs are each about 15". The lower leg wasn't a problem to measure, but the upper leg was. Does on have to be longer than the other?


I agree, you probably are a Warrior, like me!

But just to be sure, I am wondering how you measured your legs:

Lower legs: start from outside ankle bone to just below the  knee, you will feel a bump. Probably easier to understand on
the video.

Upper legs might be tricker. Sit down and feel a space or dip
just above the knee and you measure to the middle of the crease
of where your leg joins. (Frankly, it is easier to do this wearing your underclothes.).

Now to check the length of torso and legs you need to use a chair. Measure from the floor to the top of  the seat. Sit down
and measure from the floor to the top of your head.(I suggest using a book). Subtract the chair height from your sitting height. That's the length of your torso. Now, subtract your torso length from your standing height and that is your leg length.

Now, if you did your measurements right and you are A+ Secretor and your ring fingers are longer, definitely Warrior.

Diet in a nutshell:

No recommended red meats and poultry
avoid beef, ham, lamb, mutton, pork, chicken and so on.
Lots of fish choices but stay away from clams, eel, lobster, shrimp, etc
Eggs: okay
Cheese: recommended are cottage, farmer, kefir paneer, quark
        most are on the avoid list, butter is perhaps neutral
Grains: many choices but stay away from white wheat,
        (any white lines on your fingerprints, might be gluten
         sensitive)
Vegies: Lots of choices
Fruit: Good choices here to, stay away from oranges, bananas
Drinks: beer & wine also okay

Well, this will get you started. You can fine tune when you get the book.

Welcome fellow Warrior!


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No recommended red meats and poultry
avoid beef, ham, lamb, mutton, pork, chicken and so on.
Lots of fish choices but stay away from clams, eel, lobster, shrimp, etc
Eggs: okay
Cheese: recommended are cottage, farmer, kefir paneer, quark
        most are on the avoid list, butter is perhaps neutral
Grains: many choices but stay away from white wheat,
        (any white lines on your fingerprints, might be gluten
         sensitive)
Vegies: Lots of choices
Fruit: Good choices here to, stay away from oranges, bananas
Drinks: beer & wine also okay

Well, this will get you started. You can fine tune when you get the book.

Welcome fellow Warrior!

Not beer in my book- an Avoid.
But thanks for the heads up about butter being neutral--fantastic news as I have great difficulty in giving up margarine, and now I will be able to as there is a reasonable substitute..
Someone said above that the Warrior diet is quite different to the A sec, and I would concur.
for instance, I had a lovely spontaneous "baked beans on toast" today, but it was made up into a sauce of navy beans (haven't had them for 6 years, some green olives,some anchovies (definitely not eaten for 6 years), some horseradish, some snow peas, on wholemeat toast (haven't had for 6 years) with a black dot tomato and some plum sauce to give it some colour.
How fabulous was that?
Don't want to bore you with my plumbing, but flatulence is a thing of the past after  3 weeks as a Warrior.
Definitely a notch up from A sec.




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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results.


that s the reason I mentioned fish being a better choice.....


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Here ya, Jenny.

You are not the only one. I have no problems in that area since
eating Warrior diet.

Certainly an notch up! Thanks Dr. D. Many of us are truly
grateful!


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A question from my Warrior partner.

It specifically states in the Red Meats section that "bone soups and broth" are avoids but not so in the Poultry section.

So, would chicken broth be considered a neutral just as long as you don't eat the chicken itself?

It's a long shot but as a Pole she was brought up on chicken soup  
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Hello,Friend! Y'a;;have been a big help. You know, about the measurements, some had me really confused last night,because they were saying iftheir INDEX ingers were longer than ring, and their upper oro was longer than egs, they were a Warrior.With that I tought, OKAY-I can't be a Warrior. I would like to post a picture of myself and maybe it'l help.I did on an anthropological forum and I definitely was classified. But here, it says A+ Secretor with rig longer than index on both, and torso shorter than legs-definitely Warior, no matter what leg measurements are. How absoutely definite is that? Any more comments about this ring finge thing and short torso this above,and I appreciate y'all hlpin' me out here. I'm one of those archtypes you've seen-the woman that's all legs and short torso-no need to even measure torso to leg. So, guys-with this above, cold it be safe to say definitely a Warrior? Also-how d I attach photos?
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Oh-someone said if I see white lines on fingers-probably gluten intolerance. Don't have inkpad yet but was looking at my fingers last night-so many lines it was ridiculous and I feel very "allergyish" lately. White bread seems to do it. HowWarrior-like does that sound?
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Thanks, Heidi, Northstar, and Out and Aboutin Japan!
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I'm sorry-one more thing-I have fibromyalgia and am working very hard to get ridof the heavy metals in the system, only to find out I might be a Warrior-we have to eat lots of fishit seems. Everywhere, it'ssaid eating fish isn't safe anymore, because of mercury in the fish. What can we do? Also-do cans give is metal poisoning, or, is it just when the metal is heated, do we have a problem. I just want as few toxins as possible.
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Can Warriors have grits? How about oatmeal?What about soy protein and whey protein?Thanks.
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Hi, guys! I am being a pain, I know...bear with me. I just realized,I may have done the ring and index measuring incorrectly. I remeasured.My index fingers are definitely LONGER on both hands than ring. I measured next to my pinkie instead of between middle and ring. M index is longer.Now-my legs are longer than torso-you can see this by looking atme. I still ned to get the uper leg measure.So-if index is longer than ring, and if legs are longer than torso, and if I am an A1+ Secretor, than what does it sound like? If given this, lower leg is longer than upper, then what and vise versa?
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I noticed that on my own hands as well. I have always eaten far too many goodies. Cakes, pies, cookies, Little Debbie, well you get the picture. I know it's wrong. I know that's why I'm fat. It's addicting. This is really going to be a challenge for me. Not only do you find this is bread but I've also noticed it in phoney meat products. So we are very limited. When I get a chance to shop it will be a very interesting experience...Aani


Listen, this is what I think: I think we can't go around measuring our goodness by what we don't do, by what we deny ourselves, what we resist, and who we exclude. I think we've got to measure goodness by what we embrace, what we create, and who we include. Pere Henri (Chocolat)
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Sorry I noticed the white lines on my fingertips. This is such an active board- love it! Grits I believe are wheat aren't they? It would be nice if we could have them though. They are pretty good...Aani


Listen, this is what I think: I think we can't go around measuring our goodness by what we don't do, by what we deny ourselves, what we resist, and who we exclude. I think we've got to measure goodness by what we embrace, what we create, and who we include. Pere Henri (Chocolat)
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I assume that ALL those items are toxins so I think the notation should have said 0 times per week.  


It has to be for the neutrals since there are no super food or black dot avoids in the warrior meat or poultry lists.

Turkey, ostrich, emu and whatever else happens to be neutral.




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Hi, guys! I am being a pain, I know...bear with me. I just realized,I may have done the ring and index measuring incorrectly. I remeasured.My index fingers are definitely LONGER on both hands than ring. I measured next to my pinkie instead of between middle and ring. M index is longer.Now-my legs are longer than torso-you can see this by looking atme. I still ned to get the uper leg measure.So-if index is longer than ring, and if legs are longer than torso, and if I am an A1+ Secretor, than what does it sound like? If given this, lower leg is longer than upper, then what and vise versa?


Still Warrior  




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Grits are corn, another poison!
Re the fingers--I always thought my ring fingers were longer, but when measuring as he describes, the index is longer on one hand & the ring is one millimeter(!)longer on the other!!
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When buying fish, look for the word wild! Now even sea fish is messed up. I hear that some 'fishermen' put a net around an area in the ocean & feed them like farm fishing! Yuck!!
Every one of us has to give up a beloved food. As you go along in your diet, you will find favorites. Stick with this board, the best one I've seen  on the internet! We are very supportive!!!!!
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Avoid the grits, famlovpc, but oatmeal is okay. So is soy and whey powder. Amaranth, barley and flaxseed are good. About your fibromyalgia - it would be interesting to see if massaging castor oil into your tender spots would help.  It certainly does me. A cheapo remedy if there ever was one. I use Swan's and it hardly has any smell at all. You will know right away if it is going to help. You can buy a small bottle (dark blue) for a little over a dollar. I get mine at Kroger on the laxative counter. I keep a few extra bottles on hand to give to other pain sufferers!
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Y'all are just great. OKAY-it looks ike this-if I did the upper leg measuring right, and thats a bif IF, it would appear it's longer than lower. Not much, but some longer. It's rwally close. I measured with undergarments on. I took tape and measured to crease, kept going straight across to hip bone...right? Then, I measred bone sticking out to lower part of knee, to same spot on ankle bone. If index is longer than rings, on both hands, and if upper leg is longer than lower, and if trso is shorter than legs-wayyy shorter, then, what? Could I be Explorer? What signs to look for on finger pads for index and ring? If Warrior, what do they have to be? If Explorer, what do they have to be? I am an A + secretor Someone said either Warrio or Teacher?Can't remember.
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[img][/img] Hi. This is me, and maybe y'all can see something..I just want to know WHO I AM!!!!!
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Hi Janet! Am I a Warrior Woman? Legs longer than torso, index fingers longer than rings, upper leg longer than lower, not by much but a little longer..Do I sound like a Warrior FOR SURE? "Like TOTALLY?!!" !
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Hi, Mrs. T O+ and Spring. Thanks for your help.I can't believe how helpful my Warriors are.I guess we stick togeter, and Gathers are Great! Explorers are Exciting! Anyway, I guess I'm a Warrior! That seems to be the consenseus. Janet seems to think so from my pic as well! I guess I'll go and get some whey powder tday. Warriors, I realllly need to gain weight. I've lost 30 lbs. in 9 months. I've got to get my meat back. Protein, fat....can you help me? Also-I wonder if A1 Secretor Warriors are from the warring tribes in N. Europe....I wonder if that's where the genotype mutated from the O Hunters.....I carry the O Hunter gene. Ayway, My lines go back to there. They say the Saxons,esp. the old British Kings, when they used to fight, in battle, were predominately A. Ther eis still, today, mostly A in that art of Eng. where the Saxon blood is. I just thought it was interesting. The old kins, like 1000's and belo were pred. A, so the say.
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famlovpc, don't forget that the torso measurement includes your neck and head too!  You can't tell just by looking, so make sure you measure to double check.  Lots of folks have been surprised.  It shows how in the videos.  That way you can be SURE you are typing yourself correctly!


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would chicken broth be considered a neutral just as long as you don't eat the chicken itself?

if chicken is fine for her gt, then yes......


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if chicken is fine for her gt, then yes......


I think the question is whether or not chicken broth is okay when chicken is a toxin...?


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famlovpc, don't forget that the torso measurement includes your neck and head too!  You can't tell just by looking, so make sure you measure to double check.  Lots of folks have been surprised.  It shows how in the videos.  That way you can be SURE you are typing yourself correctly!
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Hi, Gumby! That's a ver good point. It's just like e "Teacher" to point that out! ! My mother was a school teacher and so was my Grandmother so, that's just fine! I will measure those things. When I get the book,hopefully,tomorrow, I will look at the calculator. I reallly do have a torso so short, relative to my legs,that all my life, people have commented about it. They would say, "You've got legs all he way up o your neck" and so o. My shirt in pic was tucked out but it would hav shown more if not, but thanks, and wil look. Don' Teachers have one index longer than ing on one hand but not on other? Peopl have said I sound lik a Warior, but we will know for sure, soon. Embrace yur A-ness! BTW, what are we  a's supposed to do with this-just follow this Warrior diet, as it's already known Warriors are A+ secretors?
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lol, famlovpc!  I looked and saw a long neck too...so you never know!     

A+Sec can only be either teacher or warrior.
A+Sec with torso longer than legs and upper leg longer than lower leg can only be teachers.  Fingers don't matter.
A+Sec with any other torso/leg and upper/lower leg ratios, fingers matter.  

Have fun measuring!  Let us know how it turns out.  And yes, once you know your genotype, you can just follow the diet for your type.  Fun!


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Okay, guys...I don't have a friend here to measure my torso-so I did it myself. I am 5'8.5" so that makes me 68.5." It appears, after measuring from top of seat of chair, so top of head, with book on head, and making mark on wall where book bottom was, te measurement was 34." It would appearthat there is a .5" difference, making legs .5" longer. How much does .5" make? Tomorrow, I will have someone who can measure me. What if both are equal? Or, as I said, if I'm .5" longer one way or the other, I guess I go with that, right?
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Hello, Teachr Gumby! See above, please...maybe, you being the Teacher, or brans in this otfit can teach me something here! !
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Okay, Gumby, my index fingers are both longer than my ringfingers. My upper legs are longer than m lower legs. It all hinges on the trso/leg thing, and if my measurement was correct, and I know it's difficult to get it completely right by oneself, than it would mean I'm a Warrior. You said in the 3rd combo, fingers matter.So how do MY fingers matter, here, with upper leg longer than lower leg?
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After what yu say, I will factor that in to my leg/torso thing. I can't beleve i hinges upon a .5" difference. I am so closely symetrical, with lower to upper leg, nly uper leg being only SLIGHTLY longer. You made such a good point with te head and neck thing...so it rests on he index longer than ring on both hand, and the CORRECT torso to leg.
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the question is whether or not chicken broth is okay when chicken is a toxin...?

precisely, chicken does have a lectin and thus the broth....


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With upper leg longer than lower, and index fingers longer than rings...if your torso is longer than legs, Teacher, and if legs longer than torso, Warrior.

Ties between torso and legs go to torso being longer.
Ties between upper and lower leg go to the lower leg being longer.
And ties between fingers go to the index finger.

You could get your buddy to double check your upper/lower leg measurements too, just to be sure.  We As are a obsessive bunch with the measuring lol!  Even though there is no way I could be anything else, I still remeasure from time to time....


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Gumby, Yes We ARE an obsessive bunch! This makes me even more obsessed, becuas everything is so close.You have been a real help. I was just thinking....my genotype could be  a Warrior Teacher....teching Warriors how to be better Wariors...okay, I'm realllly reaching here! ! I will see if someone will measre tonight. I hope so. I sure want o know what I am! Is whey an avoid for Teachers? I need to gain some, and whey supposedly is a superfood for Warriors. I got some whey protein tonight and some cottge cheese. I also got wild salmon. Rememeber, i don't have the book, just going by what I've seen on here.
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With upper leg longer than lower, and index fingers longer than rings...if your torso is longer than legs, Teacher, and if legs longer than torso, Warrior.

Ties between torso and legs go to torso being longer.
Ties between upper and lower leg go to the lower leg being longer.
And ties between fingers go to the index finger.

You could get your buddy to double check your upper/lower leg measurements too, just to be sure.  We As are a obsessive bunch with the measuring lol!  Even though there is no way I could be anything else, I still remeasure from time to time....


Everyone I know has gone back at least twice and checked their measurements including me!
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I measured myself four times, first I was a Teacher, then a Warrior, then a Teacher, and finally a Warrior. The last measurements were done with the help of a friend, whereas the first three were done on my own.

I'm doing great on the Warrior diet, so no complaints here. Plus, it just seems to suit me.


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Well, Gumby, and Everyone else....I'm a Teaher! I measure 35.3"  on torso, even though I never thought of m orso being longer. My legs were 32" something...funny...my inseam is 34." I never would've believed it. I really thought I was a Warrior. I just bought a giant containe of whey protein and cottage cheese and salmon. Gumby, am I poisning myself?
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I can't afford the book yet, but I took my measurments after reading one of the posts that said how to do it.  Can anyone tell me what they think I am?  My ring finger is longer than my index finger; my upper and lower legs are the same length; my torso is longer than my legs.
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I can't afford the book yet, but I took my measurments after reading one of the posts that said how to do it.  Can anyone tell me what they think I am?  My ring finger is longer than my index finger; my upper and lower legs are the same length; my torso is longer than my legs.


Assuming you measured the fingers on both hands and both ring fingers are longer then...

O Rh + == Hunter,
O Rh - Non-Sec == Explorer(women)  

So this will depend on your RH status


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Well, Gumby, and Everyone else....I'm a Teaher! I measure 35.3"  on torso, even though I never thought of m orso being longer. My legs were 32" something...funny...my inseam is 34." I never would've believed it. I really thought I was a Warrior. I just bought a giant containe of whey protein and cottage cheese and salmon. Gumby, am I poisning myself?


Welcome to teacherhood! I'd have guessed my legs longer too, but they are 3" shorter than my torso.  And my pant size inseam that I buy (granted I like my pants long...) is a bit longer than the measure of my total leg length too.  It does seem strange.  

Salmon (wild, not farmed) = diamond superfood....eat it for sure!

Whey protein and cottage cheese = trade with the neighbors for some havarti and yogurt.     There are lots of great cheeses on the superfood list for teachers...so fear not, you'll have lots of dairy choices.  


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Hello,Friend! Y'a;;have been a big help. You know, about the measurements, some had me really confused last night,because they were saying iftheir INDEX ingers were longer than ring, and their upper oro was longer than egs, they were a Warrior.With that I tought, OKAY-I can't be a Warrior. I would like to post a picture of myself and maybe it'l help.I did on an anthropological forum and I definitely was classified. But here, it says A+ Secretor with rig longer than index on both, and torso shorter than legs-definitely Warior, no matter what leg measurements are. How absoutely definite is that? Any more comments about this ring finge thing and short torso this above,and I appreciate y'all hlpin' me out here. I'm one of those archtypes you've seen-the woman that's all legs and short torso-no need to even measure torso to leg. So, guys-with this above, cold it be safe to say definitely a Warrior? Also-how d I attach photos?


I am confused just reading this.
Anyway, in my case:

torso longer than legs
index fingers longer than ring fingers
lower legs longer than upper ones
A+

And I am a Warrior!

White wheat in any form is probably not good for anyone. Basically, if you are A+ lower legs are longer....probably a
Warrior.





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It turns out I am a Teacher. Much to my surprise, my torso is longer than leg measurement. Upper legs are longer than lower, and bothindex fingers are longer than rings. I know it was confusing reading above, but I was confused about what I was hearing from others-lots of seemingly conflicting info. Anyway, thanks.
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Hello, Gumby! Thanks for the welcome! I kno whatchya mean. It is a bit odd re: pants inseam and leg measurement, isn't it? Now I know why I was always able to puton muscle. I'm a Teacher. Well, I'm up too early..going back to ed now. Ta ta!
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Hello Gumby,

Glad to hear you got that all straightened out.

So, I guess you are off to find your fellow Teachers.


Out & About in Tokyo...
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Don't like to interupt this indepth discussion...but...MY BOOK'S JUST ARRIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(this is book no.1...the one that I've just had a refund for from Amazon for non-delivery...looks like I'm gonna be the owner of TWO now )


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That's great Janet, now you have alot of reading to do this weekend!   How long did it take for it to arrive? It must've been at least 6 weeks.


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Ordered 9th Nov. Dispatched 20th Dec......5 weeks...seemed more like 5 yrs!!


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amill, both ring fingers are longer and I am an O+, so am I a hunter or an explorer?  
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Hunter, if you are confident of your measurements.
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Is going to GTD.com the only way I can find out what foods I'm supposed to eat, or will the book have all that info?
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Is going to GTD.com the only way I can find out what foods I'm supposed to eat, or will the book have all that info?


You will have great lists of foods in the book. Everything you need.

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amill, couldn't she be a Gatherer?


not with the measurements she gave,  if her index fingers where longer,  even on just one hand then i think it is possible


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Hunter, if you are confident of your measurements.


Yep.  Lloyd beat me to it.   Your a Hunter all the way !!!


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Congrats,Janet! You go, girl! Now I have 2 ebooks, myself-long story-am arguing to get my money back for one-actually-paid for 2, but could only download one, so wish me luck on refund. Well, enjoy your reading! He-if there are any Warriors near sout TN, near Ga. line-want some whey powder, a huge tub? Come and get it!Maybe we cn trade....Bye, Janet!
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Congrats,Janet! You go, girl! Now I have 2 ebooks, myself-long story-am arguing to get my money back for one-actually-paid for 2, but could only download one, so wish me luck on refund. Well, enjoy your reading! He-if there are any Warriors near sout TN, near Ga. line-want some whey powder, a huge tub? Come and get it!Maybe we cn trade....Bye, Janet!


Glad that you found your true status...
For me, I'm doing BTD...but don't mind recognising my Warrior status


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I've got a few avoids I'm going to finish up.  Unfortunately the day before I discovered my Warriorhood, I bought a huge bag of all-natural frozen chicken breasts.  Funny that chicken's an avoid for me now--it's one of the foods that I absolutely cannot stand during pregnancy.  Now I know why.  My body knew it was a toxin.  I wish I hadn't forced myself to eat it, especially when I was pregnant with my AB daughter.


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For me, I'm doing BTD...but don't mind recognising my Warrior status


What are your reasons for continuing with the BTD instead of the GTD? Curious minds and all that!  



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Alright.  I understand why black olives are avoid and olive oil is beneficial.  I can imagine why bell peppers are black dot and hot peppers are avoid.  But what I just can't grasp is why in the world pineapple is black dot and pineapple juice is beneficial.  If I cut up pineapple chunks, I can't eat them, but if I run them through my Vita-Mix, they're good?  And I just can't imagine why blueberries are black dot, but blueberry juice is avoid.  

And I know that if something's not listed it's neutral, but I wanted to make sure of this: white pepper???  I miss black pepper terribly and would love to be able to have white pepper.  Am I to assume it's neutral?


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I would treat white pepper the same as black pepper as they are both peppercorn and essentially the same.

There are several possible reasons for the other things you note. I don't know the specific reason but there are thing like flavanoids and digestive/absobtive process to consider, as an example. At some point I hope we get more information.

If you understand that foods get evaluated by several processes and that it is the result of the combined evaluation, it becomes easier to accept that a food can change it's rating via processing.
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Alright.  I understand why black olives are avoid and olive oil is beneficial.  I can imagine why bell peppers are black dot and hot peppers are avoid.  But what I just can't grasp is why in the world pineapple is black dot and pineapple juice is beneficial.  If I cut up pineapple chunks, I can't eat them, but if I run them through my Vita-Mix, they're good?  And I just can't imagine why blueberries are black dot, but blueberry juice is avoid.  

And I know that if something's not listed it's neutral, but I wanted to make sure of this: white pepper???  I miss black pepper terribly and would love to be able to have white pepper.  Am I to assume it's neutral?


Re the pineapple, my uneducated guess is that commercial pineapple juice may be strained so that all the solids and fibres are gone whereas when you  mix up your fresh pineapple in your own mixer without straining you are essentially getting the same outcome as fresh pineapple.Just a passing thought.




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So it would be better to buy pineapple juice that's been pasturized and all?  Wow.  Hm.  That's a hard one to swallow.  


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So it would be better to buy pineapple juice that's been pasturized and all?  Wow.  Hm.  That's a hard one to swallow.  


Indeed. I would use fresh made at home. Much better for you. You don't need to strain it perfectly, that's really beyond the scope of what was intended.
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Indeed. I would use fresh made at home. Much better for you. You don't need to strain it perfectly, that's really beyond the scope of what was intended.

Still confused about the status of juice v. chunks then.Some clarification from people in the know would help here.




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Still confused about the status of juice v. chunks then.Some clarification from people in the know would help here.



Go by what's in the book. Treat them as different foods. Juice that is not perfectly strained is still juice.

The diet was never meant to be a rigid regimen or to specify minute details. It is a solid guide that allows for individuality.
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Go by what's in the book. Treat them as different foods. Juice that is not perfectly strained is still juice.

The diet was never meant to be a rigid regimen or to specify minute details. It is a solid guide that allows for individuality.

I've been reading these posts about pineapple\juice and suddenly it is getting VERY interesting to me. There is something (bromelain, maybe) in pineapple that feels as if it is digesting my whole stomach if I eat very much of it. The bane is that I absolutely love fresh pineapple! Now, I'm getting all excited wondering if I could get away with drinking pineapple juice - now, wouldn't that be great!!!!! I can't take bromelain, either, even though it seems to be great for different things. So is it possible that the bromelain is in the solid part of the pineapple and not in the juice? Somebody has to find this out for us before I go into orbit. I don't want to have to go buy pineapple to make juice and be disappointed! I already have too much stuff around here to get rid of without buying some more. Help!
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