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Spring
Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 8:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Okay, one of you moderators, I have a question about something I just noticed: What does "0-2 times weekly" mean under Poultry for Warriors? It must mean SOMETHING!!! I also notice that under toxins it mentions to "limit." So does this mean I won't die if I eat chicken or Guinea pig, oh, I meant hen twice a week? This is mostly in fun, but I would like an answer to this question.  
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it just means you might want to look for better protein options for your gt, like fish perhaps.


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I've only just checked out the foods lists for non-Hunters and you Warriors certainly seem to have drawn the short straw.  No meat and no poultry.  I like fish but not all day every day.  Teachers don't seem to be much better off so, in future, I'll just be grateful for the things I can have!


Rusty,
It only looks like the short straw to someone who should be eating differently!  I was already finding, with the AB diet, that I didn't desire to have red meat except maybe once a month; and turkey only one meal per week.  I eat fish one meal almost every day and fill in with legumes and nuts.  It is very satisfying.  

I am still making some adjustments and changing some ingredients here and there, but after about two weeks of eating Warrior foods, I am feeling more stable.  I am still detoxing garbage from before BTD, so have some ups and downs, but life is much more even than even three weeks ago...  Hopefully this will continue as I get more Warrior compliant - I use up the foods that I have for AB that are black dot for Warrior...



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Hello, Guys!
I am a newbie. In fact, I don't even have the Genotype book, yet....$ problems, but hope to get it in 2 weeks. I am 42, and struggling with fatigue and adrenal burnout. I am an A1 Secretor. I am sure I am a Warrior, not a Teacher. Woiuld y'all, as we say in the South, help me out a little? Maybe you guys can just give me some basics in my diet to get me started. I PROMISE I'll buy the book soooon. Maybe I can find out from someone here-what meas can we have? Also, I want to stay away from heavy metals-do cans give us toxins, or, do I not ned to worry-are aluminum cans a cncern? Maybe I can just get sme basics. Also-do I need to get off chicken? What fish or othe meats can I have? Veggies-fruit-nuts-just a few basics is all I ask.I undersand, tea is fine? Black tea? I love black tea. Grains? I sure appreciate it, guys. I hope to be working next week, then, buy book. Cheers, fellow Warriors!
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Quoted from Janet
I've printed off the food list, so I'm OK with all of that but one question (because I still don't have my book yet! ) Where it says "Toxins to limit or avoid"...what exactly does that mean?
a) these foods are toxic and should be avoided?
or
b) these foods are toxic, so limit your consumpution?
The reason I ask is because it also gives a "Fequency: 0-1 times weekly/0-2 times weekly"
Sure would like some opinions, thanks.


Janet,
I take the satatement to mean that these foods should not be eaten.  Of course, this is subject to individuality, but try the diet without any foods from the Toxin tables for 3 to 6 months to allow the body to stabilize and heal, then possibly include the black dot items in a limited fashion.

I understand the frequency indicators to show how many times we should eat portions of each type item and the focus should be on Superfoods, less on Neutrals, and even less on black dot Toxins.  We shouldn't eat foods from the Toxin table that don't have a black dot.



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I assumed that we could eat such non-avoid poultry such as turkey 0-2 times weekly.  (Throws you off a little when it's not listed, doesn't it?)

Famlovpc, you might want to go check out the genotype website for complete lists if you don't have the book yet, or just wait for the book.  The Warrior diet is a lot different from the A diet.


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I hear ya, Ribbit.

On a different note, regarding the canned salmon, here in Japan
they the salmon and bones. The bones are easy to eat and quite
crunchy. This is for the calcium.

So, is this the official Warrior blog? I am wondering where all
the Warriors are? Still coming to terms with the new diet? Anyone sign up for the Genodiet on Dr. Ds website. I would like to know how it is. (Still on the fence in regard to joining or not.)



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Hi, guys...famlovpc again1 i was reading that for warriors, the torso has to be longer than the legs length from a person who posted here..can't  find it now. i don't have book yet. I am an A+ secretor. My legs are longer than my torso. I am lean muscular and long-legged. i don't know how to measure fingers yet-before me go any further....what's up with me having long legs and a relatively short torso-does that mean teacher? Remember, don't have book yet.
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Quoted from Lola
it just means you might want to look for better protein options for your gt, like fish perhaps.


Nope, I don't think it means that at all. I think it means 0-2 times per week, and if it doesn't, why under the sun are the words there? The red meats, etc., say 0-1 times per week. So that really tells me that this means something. I don't plan to eat any red meat for the rest of my life, let alone once per week - so that is no problem. But I am wondering about the poultry. I don't like any of the foods on the poultry list, anyway, except chicken and quail, and I don't have any notions about eating either of them often, but I would like to know what he means by this notation in this book. I think we have a right to know that.
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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results. But if you'd like to eat something from that food group you shouldn't have more then 2 servings a week.
As for the toxins, I assume it is only the black dot items that are allowed in limited amounts. But not till after the 3-6 month period. How much a limited amount would be though, I have no idea  



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Hi, guys...famlovpc again1 i was reading that for warriors, the torso has to be longer than the legs length from a person who posted here..can't  find it now. i don't have book yet. I am an A+ secretor. My legs are longer than my torso. I am lean muscular and long-legged. i don't know how to measure fingers yet-before me go any further....what's up with me having long legs and a relatively short torso-does that mean teacher? Remember, don't have book yet.


This is not enough info to go on.
You really need to measure your fingers and your upper and lower legs. It is quite easy and while you are waiting for the
book you can see how by looking on UTube.

For the fingers use a short ruler and measure from the bottom
of the finger to the top. Measure both the index and ring fingers for both hands.

The legs are a bit more complicated and there is a blog on how
to measure your legs. I suggest you read that. Do the measuring
in bare feet sitting down. Your legs should be 90 degrees.

Once you have more info let us know. Also, are you A+ or A-?
Are you sensitive to coffee? (Keeps you up if you drink a cup
or two at night.)If you know your secretor status that would
help also.

Good luck!








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Hello, there, in Japan! Yep-will grab the measuring tape and ust saw videos. Will put it up here tonight in a few or tomorrow. I am an A1+ Secretor. Coffee...my adrenal is shot, but even so,yeah-at my healthiest state, it would keep me up at night. If you have any respons to this that'd be great. Gonna grab measuring tape now......
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Okay-I'm an A1+ Secreor, long legs, short torso, longer ring fingers than index, and it would appear, upper and lower legs are each about 15". The lower leg wasn't a problem to measure, but the upper leg was. Does on have to be longer than the other?
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I've only just checked out the foods lists for non-Hunters and you Warriors certainly seem to have drawn the short straw.  No meat and no poultry.  


Actually, turkey is a neutral, but I'm not a big fan of red meat anyway.



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Hi. I am just not seeing the blog about leg measuring. I believe my upper and lower are even. I had a hard time on upper. Can someone te;l me where the blog is and/or a really specific place to measure on upper leg?I saw video If they are both even, do you give it to one or the other, a greater value?
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Looks like your a Warrior famlovpc. Female A+ secretors with longer legs then torso, longer ring fingers on both hands are warriors no matter what the leg measurements.



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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results. But if you'd like to eat something from that food group you shouldn't have more then 2 servings a week.
As for the toxins, I assume it is only the black dot items that are allowed in limited amounts. But not till after the 3-6 month period. How much a limited amount would be though, I have no idea  

What Heidi said.  


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What Heidi said.  


I assume that ALL those items are toxins so I think the notation should have said 0 times per week. But maybe Dr. D. is giving a tiny bit of leeway here to keep from coming across as a hard taskmaster since the "poor" Warriors can't have any awful red meat or mostly unpalatable poultry! Situations are hard sometimes, ya know! Yesterday I went to lunch with two other girls. They wanted Mexican so that is where we went. What am I supposed to do - watch them eat? Corn, corn everywhere, at least where there wasn't beef and chicken, and a buffet of avoids a mile long. I had one measly taco (avoid) with chicken (avoid) lettuce (super) a tad of sour cream (avoid) and, glory hallelujah, PINTOS (super, A-Okay!) So there I was with all avoids except two superfoods. I immediately took a Deflect and hoped for the best. I came home and downed a huge super-duper NAP protein drink loaded with fruit and whey protein. I'm gradually getting over the Mexican meal.  I hadn't eaten a taco in at least twelve years. Used to be my all time favorite fast food. They need to start serving turkey in those places and legal tacos!!!! They should know better!!!  
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Okay-I'm an A1+ Secreor, long legs, short torso, longer ring fingers than index, and it would appear, upper and lower legs are each about 15". The lower leg wasn't a problem to measure, but the upper leg was. Does on have to be longer than the other?


I agree, you probably are a Warrior, like me!

But just to be sure, I am wondering how you measured your legs:

Lower legs: start from outside ankle bone to just below the  knee, you will feel a bump. Probably easier to understand on
the video.

Upper legs might be tricker. Sit down and feel a space or dip
just above the knee and you measure to the middle of the crease
of where your leg joins. (Frankly, it is easier to do this wearing your underclothes.).

Now to check the length of torso and legs you need to use a chair. Measure from the floor to the top of  the seat. Sit down
and measure from the floor to the top of your head.(I suggest using a book). Subtract the chair height from your sitting height. That's the length of your torso. Now, subtract your torso length from your standing height and that is your leg length.

Now, if you did your measurements right and you are A+ Secretor and your ring fingers are longer, definitely Warrior.

Diet in a nutshell:

No recommended red meats and poultry
avoid beef, ham, lamb, mutton, pork, chicken and so on.
Lots of fish choices but stay away from clams, eel, lobster, shrimp, etc
Eggs: okay
Cheese: recommended are cottage, farmer, kefir paneer, quark
        most are on the avoid list, butter is perhaps neutral
Grains: many choices but stay away from white wheat,
        (any white lines on your fingerprints, might be gluten
         sensitive)
Vegies: Lots of choices
Fruit: Good choices here to, stay away from oranges, bananas
Drinks: beer & wine also okay

Well, this will get you started. You can fine tune when you get the book.

Welcome fellow Warrior!


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No recommended red meats and poultry
avoid beef, ham, lamb, mutton, pork, chicken and so on.
Lots of fish choices but stay away from clams, eel, lobster, shrimp, etc
Eggs: okay
Cheese: recommended are cottage, farmer, kefir paneer, quark
        most are on the avoid list, butter is perhaps neutral
Grains: many choices but stay away from white wheat,
        (any white lines on your fingerprints, might be gluten
         sensitive)
Vegies: Lots of choices
Fruit: Good choices here to, stay away from oranges, bananas
Drinks: beer & wine also okay

Well, this will get you started. You can fine tune when you get the book.

Welcome fellow Warrior!

Not beer in my book- an Avoid.
But thanks for the heads up about butter being neutral--fantastic news as I have great difficulty in giving up margarine, and now I will be able to as there is a reasonable substitute..
Someone said above that the Warrior diet is quite different to the A sec, and I would concur.
for instance, I had a lovely spontaneous "baked beans on toast" today, but it was made up into a sauce of navy beans (haven't had them for 6 years, some green olives,some anchovies (definitely not eaten for 6 years), some horseradish, some snow peas, on wholemeat toast (haven't had for 6 years) with a black dot tomato and some plum sauce to give it some colour.
How fabulous was that?
Don't want to bore you with my plumbing, but flatulence is a thing of the past after  3 weeks as a Warrior.
Definitely a notch up from A sec.




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To me 0-2 times weekly means that it's not required (since it starts with 0 servings) for optimum results.


that s the reason I mentioned fish being a better choice.....


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Here ya, Jenny.

You are not the only one. I have no problems in that area since
eating Warrior diet.

Certainly an notch up! Thanks Dr. D. Many of us are truly
grateful!


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A question from my Warrior partner.

It specifically states in the Red Meats section that "bone soups and broth" are avoids but not so in the Poultry section.

So, would chicken broth be considered a neutral just as long as you don't eat the chicken itself?

It's a long shot but as a Pole she was brought up on chicken soup  
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Hello,Friend! Y'a;;have been a big help. You know, about the measurements, some had me really confused last night,because they were saying iftheir INDEX ingers were longer than ring, and their upper oro was longer than egs, they were a Warrior.With that I tought, OKAY-I can't be a Warrior. I would like to post a picture of myself and maybe it'l help.I did on an anthropological forum and I definitely was classified. But here, it says A+ Secretor with rig longer than index on both, and torso shorter than legs-definitely Warior, no matter what leg measurements are. How absoutely definite is that? Any more comments about this ring finge thing and short torso this above,and I appreciate y'all hlpin' me out here. I'm one of those archtypes you've seen-the woman that's all legs and short torso-no need to even measure torso to leg. So, guys-with this above, cold it be safe to say definitely a Warrior? Also-how d I attach photos?
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Oh-someone said if I see white lines on fingers-probably gluten intolerance. Don't have inkpad yet but was looking at my fingers last night-so many lines it was ridiculous and I feel very "allergyish" lately. White bread seems to do it. HowWarrior-like does that sound?
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