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| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 2:48am |
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The 2 situations that you, as a B- nonnie, could be a Gatherer are if your lower leg is longer than or equal to your upper leg and your both index fingers are longer than your ring fingers. |
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honeybee |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 3:07am |
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The 2 situations that you, as a B- nonnie, could be a Gatherer are if your lower leg is longer than or equal to your upper leg and your both index fingers are longer than your ring fingers.
ok, eek, now i am getting gatherer or nomad.. i understand how troubling this can be for some of us now! |
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Don |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 3:44am |
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ok, eek, now i am getting gatherer or nomad.. i understand how troubling this can be for some of us now!
You can't be a nomad as a B- nonnie according to the book, so something is definitely wrong with your data input, or the program. |
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teri |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 8:05am |
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The 2 situations that you, as a B- nonnie, could be a Gatherer are if your lower leg is longer than or equal to your upper leg and your both index fingers are longer than your ring fingers.
I'm also a B- nonnie, online calculator returned 'Explorer'. Lower leg shorter than upper. Index and ring fingers identical on both hands. No book yet.  |
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| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 12:06pm |
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From what I've gathered, could someone please suggest whether I'm leaning towards Hunter or Explorer?  Torso longer than legs, upper leg longer than lower, both ring fingers 2cm longer than index...  Would really appreciate any comments. Cheers  |
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Don |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 3:53pm |
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Assuming the data you presented is correct you are 100% confirmed an GT4 Explorer. |
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Henriette Bsec |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 4:23pm |
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Ok I have spent my afternoon making new list over my food and what can I say I ´m still a bit but not freaked out. However some of the categories really makes me wonder :-/ did I test right ???The Meat ... well it looks pretty much like my old B meat list... not much new there The poultry - thank heaven turkey are still there. ;).. I don´t know If I´ll eat chicken -used to make me constipated and the other poultry hard to get Fish : where is my salmon???? well at least monkfish and cod are still ok or good The salmons that are ok in moderation after 3-6 months are not at all easy to get here in Denmark and tuna is a no no and that is one thing I used to eat a lot since I´m really are so fussy with fish MILK OH My OH MY are you certain that I a B should be explorer...  Well ricotta and paneer is nice and at least I get some fermented milk backafter a while but not butter( Ghee is nice ;)) or milk. Is this the price I pay for being with the A and AB and Os ;)  Nuts - well macadamias are among my favourites and at least almonds and walnuts return after a while. The beans -does not look like my B beans at all  and can I eat so many ? but I´m happy to see peas and green beans high  Veggies- well ASPARAGUS are great  and at least broccoli and carrots are still there but all my other B cabbage are gone and my red peppers and EGGPLANT Yes I have gained lettuce, bitter plants and radish  but..... Fruit -well I´m lucky to live in an area where several of the diamond fruits are plenty and the other bennies are easy to get in general ... but my oh my what have I lost  Drinks herbs etc looks ok... sugar isn´t healthy for any.... BUT I wonder what will I use instead of milk since both cow, goat, rice and soy milk is out and almonds are a black dot nut  and eggs  I won´t stop eating my 4-6 pr week lovely homemade eggs.... My plan is to add the easy diamond and bennies into my diet and foods that have been neutral before. I will leave the avoids out that I didn´t like anyway or where neutrals before ... but untill now I´ll keep my old bennies like milk, feta etc or I go crazy  |
| ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane-Â living with DD Emma age 18,  0 rh- secr ( Hunter or explorer  ) Diamonds, superfoods, Neutral,*black dots, avoids |
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Henriette Bsec |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 4:26pm |
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Oh by the well I think I´ll post this on Genotype as well  |
| ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane-Â living with DD Emma age 18,  0 rh- secr ( Hunter or explorer  ) Diamonds, superfoods, Neutral,*black dots, avoids |
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Lisalea |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 5:22pm |
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I'm with u Henriette  Actually, I've been jumping from Explorer to Nomad ... and suddenly I started thinking that perhaps I'm a Gatherer instead !!!  Am I the only one that's bewildered here ??? I seem to have characteristics in all three ...  Ok ...lets see ... I'm VERY emotional  and struggle with appetite control 'cause I love food !!!  no weight issues really though ... BUT if I do gain it bascially goes all to my BELLY !!! (Gatherer) I'm athletic looking on a petite-medium frame I would say ... and I'm VERY senstive to caffeine ... if I drink it after 4-5 pm = NO SHUT EYE. (Explorer) I must have a VERY sensitive digestive track since I've been having so many digestive issues the last two years with lots of burping, gurgling noises, pasty mouth in the morning ... and now even blood in my stool !!! HOWEVER, I don't have read hair and green eyes ...  (Nomad) I would really like to know EXACTLY who I am ??? 'cause I really wanna start eating the right way ASAP and hopefully start to move towards optimal health again  More info: I'm 5' 6 about, 125 pounds Brown hair and eyes Both my index finers and ring fingers match lengths; however, looks like my index fingers r somewhat longer ... Ideal waist-to-hip; however, whenever I do gain weight it goes straight to my belly  and I look pregnant  I'm a B+ I need an expert here  Cheers  |
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Don |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 5:30pm |
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Do you have the book yet? If not, have you joined the GTD site? Have you taken all the measurements you can? Watch the videos to get help on how to do the measurements. Once you have the measurements and other data load it into the GTD site online GT calculator or use the tables in the book to determine your GT. If you still need help post the data here. Guessing your GT based on other criteria is not going to be very useful. Getting your secretor status would probably help 100% confirm your GT. |
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Lisalea |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 7:07pm |
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Ee Dan
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Do you have the book yet? If not, have you joined the GTD site? Have you taken all the measurements you can? Watch the videos to get help on how to do the measurements. Once you have the measurements and other data load it into the GTD site online GT calculator or use the tables in the book to determine your GT.
If you still need help post the data here.
Guessing your GT based on other criteria is not going to be very useful.
Getting your secretor status would probably help 100% confirm your GT.
Yes, of course I bought the book but haven't really had the chance to take all the measurements since I can't locate my tape measure ... sigh ...  and with the holiday and all ... I'm anxious to find out for sure though!! In the meantime, I'm gonna stick to goat, lamb and turkey, eggs and almond butter ... essene bread and pasta rice, quinoa, millet and all types of lentils !! As far as veggies GO ... looks like I'll be safe with beets, carrots and broccoli ... and apples, papaya, pineapple but I'm NOT ready to give up all my fruits not for now anyways ... I could even eat Rye bread ... looks like ... wow ...  and I would love to be an Explorer and be able to eat POLENTA !!!!!!!!!  ... Yuppiii ... I'm really praying that I don't have to give up kefir and yogurt if I'm a Gatherer ... so help me God ... I drink tons of it ... especially when I've eaten so much sugar ... etc ... and all the incredibly amazing benefits of kefir that I keep reading about ... would make it a real tragedy to give it up !!! Thanks Don  |
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Lisalea |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 7:09pm |
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If you still need help post the data here.
Thank-u much John 
Getting your secretor status would probably help 100% confirm your GT.
 ?? In what sence ? Thank-u again  |
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Don |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 7:25pm |
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Based on the Advanced GenoType Calculator tables your Genotype is 100% confirmed if you have your blood type, Rh, secretor status and your torso, leg, and finger length measurements. |
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RedLilac |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 7:26pm |
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I’m with Henriette. It is very unsettling to have to change the diet you’ve become accustomed to and has been working well for you. I have a hard boiled egg and a banana in the car every morning on the way to work. Both are now dot avoids. Even though I’m getting over a cold this week, I’m still eating them. Otherwise I’ll skip breakfast and that is even worse for getting over an illness. For lunch I have a salad with broccoli, cauliflower, and cheese or yogurt. Cauliflower went from beneficial to avoid without even a dot. Yogurt is a dot avoid. I have fish several times a week and my favorites are now either dot avoids or full fledged avoids (like tilapia). Butter is an avoid! Walnuts are dot avoids. I have to revise my whole shopping list. I’m not going to jump in full force to the Explorer diet. I’m going to gradually shift and see how my body reacts. Except for chicken. I refuse to eat it even if it is a neutral. |
| I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB- SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008 Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06 |
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Lisalea |
| Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 7:35pm |
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vandelam |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 2:30am |
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The book hasn't arrived yet and I haven't been to the website (no time) but I too am guessing that I'm an Explorer. Left-handed, Rh-, ring finger longer than index, Torso longer than legs (anecdotally ... I haven't measured the torso bit yet as I don't know where to measure from). What's this about eggs? I eat 3 eggs for breakfast every day!!! It was a big change doing the 3 eggs for breakfast Looks like I'm in for another big change. It sounds like change is good for Explorers. I wonder if that explains why I have a soft spot for stories by Jules Verne  |
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Lisalea |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 3:05am |
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Ee Dan
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Based on the Advanced GenoType Calculator tables your Genotype is 100% confirmed if you have your blood type, Rh, secretor status and your torso, leg, and finger length measurements.
Today, I finally glanced at the section: Advanced GenoType Calculator tables and so far I'm leaning towards Nomad ... but still need my secretor status to confirm I guess ...  Thanks John  |
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Don |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 3:17am |
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...I don't know where to measure from).
Look at all the GTD video Dr. D put up on YouTube and in his blog to find out how to do the measurements. Post them and someone can help you figure out your GT while you are waiting for the book to arrive. |
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Victoria |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 3:25am |
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Get your secretor test, LisaLea. Just do it! (do it)  |
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Henriette Bsec |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 8:44am |
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The book hasn't arrived yet and I haven't been to the website (no time) but I too am guessing that I'm an Explorer. Left-handed, Rh-, ring finger longer than index, Torso longer than legs (anecdotally ... I haven't measured the torso bit yet as I don't know where to measure from). What's this about eggs? I eat 3 eggs for breakfast every day!!! It was a big change doing the 3 eggs for breakfast Looks like I'm in for another big change.
It sounds like change is good for Explorers. I wonder if that explains why I have a soft spot for stories by Jules Verne 
Well they come back after 3-6 months... but I feel your pain  I use a lot of eggs as well to keep me happy .... at least my hens are taking a winter break  However I don´t think I´ll leave them completely out of my diet for 3 months... what should I use instead ??? goose egg ..  . that is a joke here in Denmark |
| ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane-Â living with DD Emma age 18,  0 rh- secr ( Hunter or explorer  ) Diamonds, superfoods, Neutral,*black dots, avoids |
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shells |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 11:42am |
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Assuming the data you presented is correct you are 100% confirmed an GT4 Explorer.
Wow! Thanks Don...I always was the black sheep of the family (!) and I've done extensive traveling around this planet and will always jump at any opportunity to do more  |
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vandelam |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 12:01pm |
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Look at all the GTD video Dr. D put up on YouTube and in his blog to find out how to do the measurements. Post them and someone can help you figure out your GT while you are waiting for the book to arrive.
Thanks, Don. Here are my measurements: Total height: 171 cm Torso height: 94 cm Total leg length: 77 cm Upper leg : 36 cm Lower leg : 34 cm Left index: 73 mm Left ring : 75 mm Right index: 70 mm Right ring : 74 mm Waist : 85 cm Hips : 96 cm |
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Don |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 12:07pm |
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Here are my measurements:
Total height: 171 cm Torso height: 94 cm Total leg length: 77 cm Upper leg : 36 cm Lower leg : 34 cm
Left index: 73 mm Left ring : 75 mm Right index: 70 mm Right ring : 74 mm
Based on that you are a confirmed Hunter. |
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vandelam |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 12:10pm |
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Based on that you are a confirmed Hunter.
Yipes. I didn't expect that. Sorry to have wasted the Explorer's time.  Looks like I'm off to find another thread  |
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Henriette Bsec |
| Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 5:43pm |
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Posts: 7,889
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Location: Denmark
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Hi Explores where ever you are Have you gotten more adjusted to your new lists ?  I have posted a few Q on the GTD - I thought we better start using that as well...  but I have a slight problem with breakfast ideas Except for that I have spent the day making new lists looks good in different colours had peas and meatsauce for lunch as well as apple and licorice/ peppermint tea .. felt good For dinner I´m planning a soup based on marrowbones and asparagus  |
| ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane-Â living with DD Emma age 18,  0 rh- secr ( Hunter or explorer  ) Diamonds, superfoods, Neutral,*black dots, avoids |
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