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RedLilac
Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 2:25am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Tried quinoa for the first time last night with roasted chicken. It was with curry spices onions and peas.  Good explorer recipe.  Hubby hated it.  I thought it was edible.  Guess we'll try a millet recipe next time.


How did you feel after eating the chicken?  Chicken was such a major avoid for us Bs.  I havenít eaten it in over 25 years.  I traced my debilitating cramps to it.  My son eats it.


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This is the fourth time I've eaten chicken since switching to GTD.    Last night was the first time that I actually enjoyed eating it.  I'm eating very small portions right now.  It has been eight years since quitting chicken with BTD.  So, I'm easing into it.  Makes hubby happy to have another protein to fix form me occasionally. I definitely have to ease into it.  It won't be a staple, that's for sure.  

I'm frustrated with the fish list.  The only bennies really available to me are cod, snails and maybe an occasional whitefish or sturgeon.  Very pricey.  I haven't heard of most of the beneficial fishes.  So, what to substitute?  I've been eating more turkey than prescribed at this point.


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Hey Explorers,

I got my book today. I thought I was going to be a hunter (natural ectomorph but possibly due to some malnourishment) so I was very surprised to see the Intermediate calculator list me as either a gatherer or explorer.

The facts:
My torso is longer that my legs.
My upper leg is longer than the lower.
My ring fingers 'appear' to be significantly longer but several measurements later it turned out that the ring finger on my right hand is longer and the index finger on the left is actually slightly longer or at least a tie.

-My feet are slightly asymetrical in shape.
-I am extremely creative.
-Killer waist.
-Recurrent anemia.
-Look young for my age.
-Tried gravol once and it made me barf instead of getting better. I hope I never need general anaesthetic.
-Hate most perfumes and even more so most colognes.
-No coffee in the am nevermind the pm (prefer to be tired than strung-out).
-adult acne (just one blemish before age 21). I think my skin needs to detoxify and I hope this new direction will help.

I was initially disappointed to find out that duck is an avoid, as well as nectarines, blueberries, mangoes, bananas and rainbow trout (former type O neutrals) except occasionally. The list of fish is strange but I generally eat cod anyway. I also do not know my secretor status yet, but if I am a non-secretor that would explain some of my other intuitions that originally led me to think that I was a hunter, such as gluten intolerance (white lines, and plus I look pregnant if I eat wheat).

I am happy now, and it makes a lot of sense. I was already making bone marrow soup all winter- way better than that dumb bouillon stuff. Plus, I can still have Kale which is my body's favorite food. Quinoa, grapefruits, pomegranates, brocoli, lamb,red meat, chicken, onions, brown rice, pinto beans, lemons, lots of good stuff for us.  

Anyway, I don't want to write too much because there will be other awesome explorers who have other stuff to say, so in parting I will just add: if anyone thinks I did my calculations wrong please let me know.
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Mrs T O+
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According to page 291, with 'mixed' finger lengths, since you are a woman, you would have to be O- AND a non-secretor to be an explorer. If you are O+ or O- secretor, you would be a gatherer. Take a look.
What the book didn't make crystal clear, or I read it too fast,[which was cleared up on this board], is that no matter what other external characteristics you may have(& I have from all 3 of the O ones), like fingerprints, tastes, etc., the torso/leg, leg length parts, & the fingers, along with BT info are the official determinants of your GT. If it were the 'strength tests,' I'd be a nomad which is smpossible for an O!! I'm hovering between hunter & gatherer because I haven't gotten anyone to measure my torso/leg. I was guessing legs to be very slightly longer, but wnat to be absolutely sure.
At this point, I'd rather be a hunter & see I have a few more external traits, but we will see!!!!!!
Sea Salt & Light,
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Mrs T O+
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Princess Renee:
Don't worry about portion sizes. Just learn the foods & enjoy them. Then deal with portions later.
I sure don't do portions (Os are more of a gourmand, anyway!).
Welcome to this site. You will love it & we are usually very friendly.
This is definitely the best message board in the internet as far as I know!!!!
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"    O+


Interested in nutrition, lactation, religion, politics; love to be around people; talkative, sensitive, goofy; a "fishy Christian" ><>; left-handed; lived on a farm, small town & big city; love BTD/GTD; A staunch La Leche League veteran; b. 10/1947 Check BTD/GTD on facebook!
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I'm pretty sure that I'm a non-secretor. Plus it is really impossible that I could be a gatherer- I'm not mellow at all and I have zero padding. It was very hard to measure the fingers properly and I think the left ring finger might be longer too.
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Quoted from Linda
I'm frustrated with the fish list.  The only bennies really available to me are cod, snails and maybe an occasional whitefish or sturgeon.  Very pricey.  I haven't heard of most of the beneficial fishes.  So, what to substitute?  I've been eating more turkey than prescribed at this point.
Catfish is a cheap Explorer superfood fish.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Personally I feel I fit the Hunter profile better.  I'll have to explain why later, though.
Well, it's later.  It was Dr. D's description of the hunter "Matt" that got me thinking I might be a hunter.  All my life I've had anxiety.  I never mentioned it to anyone -- I didn't realize it wasn't normal.  I'd "self-medicate" with diet by engorging myself on sweets as a child, and I added coffee when I became an adult.  Now I'm trying to undo that damage to my adrenals, and I have to somehow find a way to cope again with this anxiety.

Our 10yo daughter may be following the same path as me.  I see her picking at her fingers and biting her chapped lips like I do.  She has these overwhelming sugar cravings that I had.  I don't know her blood type, but she measures up as an Explorer or Gatherer or Teacher.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Princess Renee:
Don't worry about portion sizes. Just learn the foods & enjoy them. Then deal with portions later.
I sure don't do portions (Os are more of a gourmand, anyway!).
Welcome to this site. You will love it & we are usually very friendly.
This is definitely the best message board in the internet as far as I know!!!!
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"    O+


Thanks so much Mrs. T.

I have decided that I won't stress over portion restrictions as you have suggested. For now.  I actually feel pretty great so far so I'll continue with what I'm doing. Thanks for the sweet welcome!
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I am happy now, and it makes a lot of sense. I was already making bone marrow soup all winter- way better than that dumb bouillon stuff.



I saw Soup bones and Marrow on the list as a beneficial. Could someone please explain to me what this is? Is this beef soup bones like you would use if making beef stew? I guess I'm trying understand how bones are a beneficial? Recipes? Instruction? Hope this isn't a weird question lol
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm
lots of recipes for you!

http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm
type in anything you need to know......loads of info


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
According to page 291, with 'mixed' finger lengths, since you are a woman, you would have to be O- AND a non-secretor to be an explorer. If you are O+ or O- secretor, you would be a gatherer. Take a look.
  


Hi Mrs. T O+,

I thought about it all day while I was at work and I decided to try the Gatherer diet for a while, since I won't be getting my secretor test for a bit and I am pretty sure that I am O+ from when I donated blood. It's possible that my acne is caused by an estrogen imbalance and I already know that my excema gets worse if I eat soy or cane sugar. Also, I could measure my fingers all day and get different answers so I decided not to second guess myself. Thanks for your suggestion.

Princess Renee,
I get beef or bison bones (you can use chicken too) from my local farmer's market. Your local butcher at the super market will have them too but it's nice if you can find organic. You can get marrow bones, which are quite larger or soup bones which still have meat on them. I usually don't salvage the meat anyway so I prefer marrow bones.
Put the bones in a large pot and boil it for a long long time. I usually get the water boiling on medium or sometimes up to high if I feel like it needs it, then reduce the heat down to just above simmer and put the lid on. I leave it at a temperature that is just below how hot it would be if it was shaking the lid (so it won't be noisy), since I like to leave it to boil overnight. You can add whatever you like after you strain it.It's probably a fab source of calcium , however the cerealsmiths who publish lists of calcium sources tend to say the calcium content is negligible. I think it must be better than that, especially if you leave it for at least a few hours but I still take calcium pills to be sure.  

Good luck!
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Oh yeah, if you want that broth to thicken up you can take the lid off near the end and boil some of the water out. You can also add a bit of brown rice flour AFTER you strain it and you will have a nice stew base. I also like to add a fresh hot pepper while it's still boiling and a bay leaf, but watch out because peppers can vary in heat and sometimes it gets really spicy if you add more than one or cut it open. Sea salt is good too.
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I love crock pots for that purpose....set on low, add spices, sleep it off....next morning you have the best bone broth!


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Squarepeg,
In BC , Canada we have basa, which is cheap. I am told it is catfish. I don't know where it is from ( maybe Vietnam). Has anyone seen local Catfish or do we even have it. I know there are a lot of varieties of catfish.


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Squarepeg,
In BC , Canada we have basa, which is cheap. I am told it is catfish. I don't know where it is from ( maybe Vietnam).
According to Wikipedia the use of basa moniker links it directly with Vietnam, because it is apparently illegal to sell such as catfish where local catfish exist. Not all basa is really catfish but can also be a kind of shark. There was also story a few years ago about those Vietnamese catfish farmers having to sell their fish in rather unfair terms. Even we have vietnamese fish available here in Finland and they are known by their real name Pangasia - haven't tried yet.



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Thanks, Thimbleberry, for your broth recipe. I will have to try it. I'm thinking of experimenting with a beef and wild rice soup, so this helps. The brown rice flour as a thickener is a great idea!
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Ok, so here are the ingredients for one of my favorite vegetable soups and I need to make substitutions for the avoids.

3 Tbsp. canola oil
1 large yellow onion, finely chopped
handful fresh parsley, finely chopped
1/2 cup finely chopped celery
1 tsp. dried thyme
1 tsp. dried oregano
1/2 tsp. dried basil
1/2 tsp ground black pepper
2 young turnips (less than 3 " diameter)
2 med. red-skin potatoes, cut in 1 " cubes
2 large carrots, split in half lengthwise and cut in 1' pieces
5 cups beef or vegetable broth
4 medium fresh tomatoes, peeled and chopped, with juice
1 8-oz.(small) can tomato sauce
salt to taste (I use 1 tsp. When using bouillon cubes)
1Tbsp.sugar
3/4 cup frozen cut sweet corn
1 cup kale, finely shredded

I'm subbing olive oil for canola oil, omitting the sugar but would love to find substitutes for the corn and the tomatoes. Suggestions are appreciated  
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What about peas or a bean like cannellini to replace the corn? You would also have to omit the potato....


I would try this to replace the tomato:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?452

I've been using this sauce in soups and stews with good results. It's also great on rice pasta. (If anyone is looking for a good rice pasta Tinkyada is the best I have found. Great taste and texture.)



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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I got addicted to using fresh savory with chicken last summer, and dried savory is really good in chicken or lamb broth.

Sometimes, ok often, I make a whole chicken, then make gravy with a TBL spoon or so of rice flour with the stuff left in the pan (I usually add about a cm of water before placing the roasting pan in the oven). The rice flour is WAY better than cornstarch.

Anyway, some will be eaten right away but then I'll usually boil the bones all night and add the rest of the meat (already cut up) to the carefully drained broth (into a second pot)when I get up in the morning PLUS add the rest of the gravy and it makes a super flavourful stew. Usually it won't need any additional rice flour to be added because the gravy thickens it up. If you are fat-o-phobic you can always skim some oil off the finished product, to your liking. Though usually if you stirred the gravy enough to keep it from separating it won't break up in the broth either.

I like your idea to use turnips- yum. If you know you're going to be in a hurry in the morning you can have all the veggies pre-cut too and just dump them in when you have the broth ready.
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If I'm not in the mood for soup, any kind of bone broth works really well for making risotto (sub for water) with brown basmati or quinoa. Calcium boost!
For all you A's who might not be accustomed to eating chicken, you could use turkey too, my roaster just isn't big enough.
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I reduce my beef/veal/lamb broth - and freeze it in small icecubes
That way it is easy to add to a soup / risotto or gravy
It looks fun when it cools down- small rubbery cubes


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What about peas or a bean like cannellini to replace the corn? You would also have to omit the potato....


I thought the avoid was "potato, white with skin". Can we eat potatoes, white without skin?   I'm reaching. lol
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I'm loving the broth/stew ideas. I guess I'm taking my crock pot out of storage and I'm on my way to Wild Oats for brown rice flour.
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I thought the avoid was "potato, white with skin". Can we eat potatoes, white without skin?   I'm reaching. lol



I wish   There has been a lot of talk about potatoes on the GTD site and is pretty clear that potatoes are out. Red skinned, yellow fleshed, even the blue variety. With or without skin they are still off limits for everyone but the Nomads (black dot for them). Which makes sence as both the B's and AB's have potatoes as neutrals on the BTD and Nomads are B's or AB's.








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