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MyraBee
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I get tahini----ha ha haha!  



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(I love your Chardin quote!!!)


Thanks--it just makes a lot of sense to me!


And speaking of making sense; I am Ex-Tac-Tic about being a Hunter!  So many new foods---so much more time to try then out--because thanks to Dr. D and Co. I'm gonna live longer...and better!  


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You also get to exercise every day! I had already been using tahini and grapefruit, now I get to use them a little bit more.  
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Thanks Lloyd for the Reminder about Daily Exercise--that's what I really meant to say!!  

But, seriously--I am so Happy about so many of the facets of the Hunter diet--Grape and Grapefruit juice for a couple.  But, did anybody happen to notice that Beer is a Diamond Drink for Nomads?!!  


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Let's not forget chocolate, ghee as desired and little things like Lima beans.  
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And the list goes on..... Honestly, December 26th was my real Christmas!

Any more Hunters hiding in the woods out there?!  Lloyd and I have the BBQ going!  


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I think it is so funny that the slogan for Hunters is "Shoot, first, ask questions later."  In my own life/career, I have often encouraged staff to "Grab the bull by the horns; if its the wrong bull--we'll sort it out at the pen."  


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I've been eating tahini and dark chocolate (hmmm...i wonder how this would taste together) for over two years now so it was nice to see them on the Hunter's Super bene list.

I know first hand about hyper immune systems that Hunter's have...mine only attacked all of my hair 10 years ago...with all this less friction on top of my head, I'm a hunter built for speed  


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Well the real question is Mike is do you have facial hair?  Balding men with facial hair were found to be more sexually attractive to women and supposedly had more sperm count.  
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I wonder how many of us have felt "drawn to" certain foods, which have now moved up the list on GTD.  Grape juice has always been my "crave" when I'm sick...and I have also craved grapefruit...although have not given into that---until now.

Anybody else--any GT--have a similiar experience?


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MyraBee, i have always done really well on Almonds and Almond butter. I have done really well on Salmon, too, Watermellon, Garbonzo beans, Butter Beans, and some other of my favorite foods i have seen move up. I have hated Collards and i think they turn out to be avoid or neutral? can't remember. Never liked prunes, good riddance! haha I was surprised by Figs, i found i did well on them. I was surprised to see dates go up, i've always liked them but they give me mucus. I'm not sure where Rye is at now but i remember trying it in Mana bread and it didn't agree with me at all  . But i can tolerate millet really well. I'm anxious to try the artichoke pasta, buckwheat, quinoa, and all the other superfood carbs now since i have never thought to give them a chance. I think i tried the feta a couple of times on the BTD and it didnt work out, but the mozarella went well for me and now i am trying the romana and parmesan which seem to be going even better than the moza!  

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Sure. Pretty much the foods we've talked about. Also some spices/herbs like cilantro, cinnamon, sage and tarragon. I never cared much for papaya and now it's an avoid. By and large my natural food choices fit the diet. There are some exceptions but it's not bad.
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I haven't gotten my book yet... went out of town to a place with no real bookstores too, so I'm out of luck for a while.  I was at the conference in April but had to catch a plane during the last session, so I'm clueless still...

I can always hope...to be a hunter.  Can't wait to find out, whatever I am.

Afternote: I'm a gatherer, but I'm very happy to be a gatherer as well, because the diet is right for me, and I love the new foods!


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.

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I've probably gained ten pounds today--trying out all my new foods!

HigherGround, I've always been drawn to almond/almond butter, too.  And, Lima Beans, as Lloyd mentioned a few entries back.  

Lloyd and Mikeo, have you just "had a Feeling" about Tahini....or did you have some inside information?


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I started using tahini back in April. It makes a killer salad dressing with garlic and lemon juice, cilantro and maybe another herb.
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I've been eating tahini and dark chocolate (hmmm...i wonder how this would taste together) for over two years now so it was nice to see them on the Hunter's Super bene list.


Mikeo, there is a chocolate marbled halvah.......(a sweet made from honey and tahini) it is heaven!!


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Apparantly we can handle acetaminophen ,mono- and diglycerides, polyvinyl pyrrolidone, sulpher dioxide, propionic acid, sodium nitrite, ethyl maltol, caffeine (not me), calcium diglutamate and who knows what else. Not that I'm looking to use these, just that they aren't on our avoid list but make it on at least one other types......
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Well the real question is Mike is do you have facial hair?  Balding men with facial hair were found to be more sexually attractive to women and supposedly had more sperm count.  


well...how do I answer this question?...I do not have facial hair either and if you like a good male kisser, facial hair as well as whiskers can give woman serious facial burns  

re: sperm...I don't care how attractive or how much facial hair a bald man has...if he's not on the diet, his sperm count is low.


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well...how do I answer this question?...I do not have facial hair either and if you like a good male kisser, facial hair as well as whiskers can give woman serious facial burns  

re: sperm...I don't care how attractive or how much facial hair a bald man has...if he's not on the diet, his sperm count is low.


Well----Alrighty Then!     


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I started using tahini back in April. It makes a killer salad dressing with garlic and lemon juice, cilantro and maybe another herb.


Lloyd, that sounds so yummy!  Any special proportions...or just to personal taste?  And, any other herb suggestions...what do you think about Rosemary?


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Rosemary works. I have also used tarragon, oregano, thyme and basil at various times. Each has merit. I never measure, it's hard to go wrong. Just use your personal taste. If you like, a tiny bit of sea salt could also be used.

I put everything in the bottom of my salad bowl, mix it up, then let is sit while washing the greens and spinning them dry. Chop the greens, add to bowl, mix throughout. When I get low in the tahini bottle I make the mix in there and just pour it on the salad, putting the rest back in the fridge. That's usually a few days worth.
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Wow, I'm a Hunter! Salmon, green beans, grapefruit, pineapple, chocolate, and cinnamon all go to superbennie!!!  This pleases me to no end.  I will miss my plums, prunes, almond milk, figs, grapes, apples, spinach, and carrots.   This will take some getting used to.

Now maybe I will lose this weight--stop, no maybes this time.  I will lose this weight!   Off to explore the book more....


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Lloyd, that sounds so yummy!  Any special proportions...or just to personal taste?  And, any other herb suggestions
Organic parsley (if it's ok for hunters).



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Sorry, no parsley  


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It's getting more and more amazing.


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Well, yes it is.

Yesterday on another thread I was worrying about the loss of cherry juice--which really seems to help my aches and pains.  However, when I got up this morning, after a "nightcap" of grapefruit juice (a previous no-no!) I felt pretty darn good...and mobilated quite well!  



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I get tahini----ha ha haha!  



And I say cheese!



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And I say cheese!



In this case, real cheese. None of that mozzarella nonesense. Give me parmesan! Give me romano! Give me pecorino!

BTW, parmesan and tahini work in quinoa, for anyone who wants to try.
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And kefalotyri! Has always been my favourite. Our version is from goat's milk instead of sheep's milk, but I never had a problem with it.


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And kefalotyri! Has always been my favourite. Our version is from goat's milk instead of sheep's milk, but I never had a problem with it.


....but does it make up for the loss of rye?





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Actually kefalotyri will be replacing rye. I'll slice a not so thin piece and smear it with ghee (as desired)  


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Dairy is always a good trade, methinks  


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ahem...pecorino & quinoa and loads of garlic & onions...weew yummy as well of course add some parsil & other greenies ..

ahem...I did see an article about ghee in the new/healthsletter of Mayo Clinic...oooo...ooooh
this article murdered all kinds of ghee, without knowing its benefits...I guess...it was only taken into negative sides...MD's can't understand em give up statements into things they not even know .......tsk...tsk..tsk....


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ahem...pecorino & quinoa and loads of garlic & onions...weew yummy as well of course add some parsil & other greenies ..


Alas, parsil is a black dot for hunters...and it's so pretty, too.  


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Dairy is always a good trade, methinks  


Me, too!  In fact, I'm going to bring some Havarti to Lloyd's Taco party next summer!    



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I don't know if it's just me or whatever but I can't eat as much at one sitting anymore. I've now been Huntering for more than a week (except some minor avoids that were in my cupboard). Anyone else?

Oh, picked up some Pecorino romano today on sale.  
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are you able to buy pecorino romano at the regular grocery store?
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In the larger supermarkets it is possible.....It's about $6.00/lb.

Lloyd, what was the price  of yours on sale?


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I don't know if it's just me or whatever but I can't eat as much at one sitting anymore. I've now been Huntering for more than a week (except some minor avoids that were in my cupboard). Anyone else?



In all honesty, I've been overeating.    I'm so excited to have so many different food choices that I've gone a little overboard.  For instance I ate an entire bunch of mustard greens all by myself for dinner, along with beef curry and 2 mashed rheutabagas! (sp)

At the same time, I've also been pretty stressed about all of these new choices.  Plus--I'm still kinda wondering if I could be an Explorer.

Happy New Year Everybody!


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In the larger supermarkets it is possible.....It's about $6.00/lb.

Lloyd, what was the price  of yours on sale?


It was at a HFS, my local grocery that carries it is also muey expensive. At 6 bucks I picked up a wedge of about 14oz, should last me several weeks. I keep forgetting to use the stuff, still have almost all the parmesan I picked up the other day.    Worse, because I like it. Just keep wanting to save it for something special, I guess.    Have to get used to the idea that I can and should enjoy some from time to time.  

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Quoted from Lloyd
I don't know if it's just me or whatever but I can't eat as much at one sitting anymore. I've now been Huntering for more than a week (except some minor avoids that were in my cupboard). Anyone else?


I haven't been eating as much, but I think that is more from intentionally trying.  

That, and I still have lots of figs, prunes, spinach, carrots, and tomatoes.  I am finding it hard to make a salad now.   I guess I will have to finish those off before I go hard core "Hunting".


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I wonder how many of us have felt "drawn to" certain foods, which have now moved up the list on GTD.  Grape juice has always been my "crave" when I'm sick...and I have also craved grapefruit...although have not given into that---until now.

Anybody else--any GT--have a similiar experience?


More so the opposite way.  Mozzerlla bothers me and it was made an Avoid.  I hope to try the other cheeses though, I really miss cheese.  Peas and relatives have moved up, and I've been eating them, just trying to not go much over the limit on BTD.  Glad they've moved up.
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Well, yes it is.

Yesterday on another thread I was worrying about the loss of cherry juice--which really seems to help my aches and pains.  However, when I got up this morning, after a "nightcap" of grapefruit juice (a previous no-no!) I felt pretty darn good...and mobilated quite well!  



So try this, juice some fresh grapefruit and blend in some fresh pineapple.  It's awesome for aches and pains.  I'm going to miss cherries also though.
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I haven't been eating as much, but I think that is more from intentionally trying.  


I'm not eating as much either.  This is because I have not become 100% sure that I'm a Nomad.  



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I'm a hunter, too.

Currently, I am also a hunter who has about 15 pounds to lose, before he looks like a proper hunter but, even then, I can't easily touch my middle finger to my thumb without a tiny bit of squeezing around my wrist.  

So, apparently, I'm a hunter who is a meso-endomorph.  *defeated sigh*
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I am happy to be a Hunter as well. Will miss my spinach though Had gotten so used to it.

But I get Manchego I live in Manchego land (especially when I visit my parents) so I will certainly enjoy it. Interesting how it never had any effects on me. Well, as long as I had it on its own and not on bread, with "parma" ham....

Certainly a Hunter personality and energy, assuming I eat and exercise compliantly !

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My book hasn't arrived yet and I haven't visited the website either but according to my measurements, Don has said that I'm a Hunter. I thought I might have been an Explorer because I'm left-handed and Rh- but also I didn't visualise myself as a Hunter ... but what do I know!!!

Here are my measurements:

Total height: 171 cm
Torso height: 94 cm
Total leg length: 77 cm
Upper leg : 36 cm
Lower leg : 34 cm

Left index: 73 mm
Left ring : 75 mm
Right index: 70 mm
Right ring : 74 mm

Waist : 85 cm
Hips  : 96 cm

Following the thread, I'm a bit dismayed at the movement of some of the foods. For the majority of time I've been on the BTD, I've been a steak and salad kind of guy. And the base of all my salads is Kale & spinach, both of which I grow in my vege patch. I also use prunes as part of a shake I have for breakfast. I also have eaten a lot of figs. So, it's really sad to see them go.

For those who know, which leafy greens are super beneficial for Hunters? And what is the status of eggs?
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For those who know, which leafy greens are super beneficial for Hunters? And what is the status of eggs?

Greens - dandelion, escarole, grape leaves, kale, mustard greens, and turnip greens.

Chicken and duck eggs are Superfoods.


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Greens - dandelion, escarole, grape leaves, kale, mustard greens, and turnip greens.

Chicken and duck eggs are Superfoods.


Also chicory, which is on the bitter side but mixes in nicely.


Ron, I am pure mesomorph. When heavier I was unable to get my finger to touch thumb around the wrist. As a youth and currently as well as when at a reasonable weight it has been a 'barely touches with effort', even when I have been very thin.
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Greens - dandelion, escarole, grape leaves, kale, mustard greens, and turnip greens.

Chicken and duck eggs are Superfoods.


We lost collard greens ... and after all the work that went into getting myself to eat them and searching for recipes.  They were my main green.  I have done turnip greens before a little, never had kale or escarole.  I've never even seen grape leaves and wonder if we have them in our small town.  We certainly don't sell dandelions, but I've got plenty in my yard!

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We lost collard greens ... and after all the work that went into getting myself to eat them and searching for recipes.  They were my main green.  I have done turnip greens before a little, never had kale or escarole.  I've never even seen grape leaves and wonder if we have them in our small town.  We certainly don't sell dandelions, but I've got plenty in my yard!



Well....we didn't exactly lose them--there seems to be quite a bit of collards hiding out in my refrigerator!  

Seriously tho, I ate my first mustard greens yesterday and I absolutely LOVE them!  And I'm eating turnip greens as we speak. I think Lloyd's Tahini dressing will be great on fresh escarole--maybe with a little mustard powder and agave syrup added--kind of a honey mustard dressing.

We're gonna be all right!!  


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...never had kale ...  We certainly don't sell dandelions, but I've got plenty in my yard!



I can highly recommend kale, especially the variety called Tuscan kale or cavollo nero. It is very easy to grow and it's very vertical and has shallow roots so could grow easily in a pot and not take up much space. You can just pick leaves off from the outside as it grows.
It is the base of all my salads. It has almost a nutty taste which is odd for a green. Combine it with all your other beneficial greens, slop on your favourite dressing and you can't go wrong.
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I'm a hunter, until proven otherwise.  

Cherries never seemed to agree with me, I felt stressed when I ate them.  The hunter diet explains that.

One thing I was surprised about was spirulina.  Wasn't that an avoid?  Now it's a superfood.
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No book till mid next week. Fingers, toes and everything in 2's kept crossed ..

But from whatever that's been discussed so far, I was really sad to see carrot, spinach & plums go. Plums and prunes used to make my stomach rumble despite eating them with pumpkin seeds. Oh, but carrots & spinach, it's tragic.

I was told that "all dals" were now a black dot (can be added 3-6 months later). Oh-ho, that explains a lot of things I have been puzzling about. I mean, how did 7 generations of O's in my family survive daily servings of dal? And grains dont have such an evil label anymore. Soy & soy products made me feel bloated...and despite Tempeh being on the CVD good list I'll give it up coz I now know why! Ah...once the book is here I'll learn more, hopefully.

There seems to be less action on the Hunter thread than the others. Wonder why

I somehow expected Don & Lola to be Hunters. Life is full of surprises!


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There seems to be less action on the Hunter thread than the others. Wonder why


Hidding, waiting for the pray to come



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There seems to be less action on the Hunter thread than the others. Wonder why

I somehow expected Don & Lola to be Hunters. Life is full of surprises!

I expected to be a Hunter too and I strength test strong as one, but I am a Gatherer based on the advanced GT calculator.

Looks like the Gathers and Warriors should be the largest groups around here.

Hunters: Around 15%
Gatherers: Around 25%
Teachers: About 15%
Explorers: About 15%
Warriors: About 15-20%
Nomads: About 5-10%


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There seems to be less action on the Hunter thread than the others. Wonder why


Could it be because the Hunter diet is pretty close to the BTD O food lists?  After I got over a few shocks like spinach and cherry juice, I've pretty well settled back down into my old routine.

I will say I'm enjoying the heck out of my Grapefruit Juice!



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Me, again!

I enjoyed reading this thread so much, I went into the kitchen and threw a steak on the grill.

Only trouble with that is.....it's 1:20 AM!!  


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All possible answers.

So all you lucky Hunter people with the book-how's it going? What major changes did you make? How's the exercise regime? And what about supplements?

About chocolate being an SB, it would apply to just cocoa as well right?

Myra steak at 1:20am !!!


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Myra steak at 1:20am !!!



Yep!  And I dipped it in curry powder as I was eating it!

It sure is a good thing I Know I'm not pregnant...or I'd be a-worryin'


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well, i had to change Essene bread, spinach. But now i have a slew of "Carbohydrates" i've never tried nor heard of. i love new things so this excites me! also all these fruits... half i've never heard of. tried grapefruit for the first time yesterday... delicious! i was pleased to see rhodiola and pantothenic acid recomended for stress because i have those in my cabinet! I still think Intrinsa is my #1 supplement overall.

I think it's funny that Mana bread was our only beneficial but now it's an avoid, replaced with about half a dozen other superfoods! I find the phrase "out of left field" is a good description for how that made me feel but it was also a nice surprise.

im still learning. just figured out lettuce was an avoid..who would have thought that?   Romaine, tell me it's not so!

as far as exercise..i don't think i've ever excersised more than 30 minutes. will be interesting to try for 40!
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I haven't gotten back into the habit of exercising yet.  I did notice that when I was exercising regularly that it was between 35-50 minutes at a time.  I felt really great when doing it.

I am really missing spinach, tomatoes, and carrots.  Those were staples in my salads!   I am trying to find new greens/veggies to replace them!


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I'm still waiting for my book. You would think that Australia was the other side of the world  

I'm worried about the thread suggesting that we "lose" spinach, lettuce, carrots, tomatoes, plums, prunes, cherries. Yipes, that's a massive whack off my current diet.

I don't think anyone has mentioned what has happened to broccoli? Another daily food for me.

I hear other murmurs about some foods that can be returned after 3 months or 6 months on the diet. So are the foods mentioned above actually avoids? Or are they neutral? Or whatever the new terms for these are.
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Broccoli is still beneficial, although not a superbennie.  Spinach, carrots, tomatoes, lettuce, cherries, plums, and prunes become black dot avoids. According to the book, page 191, "Some foods on the Hunter Toxin list need only be avoided for a short period of time so that you can regain your balance.  After 3-6 months, you can reintroduce these foods back into your diet in modest amounts.  They are identified by a black dot icon."


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"Some foods on the Hunter Toxin list need only be avoided for a short period of time so that you can regain your balance.  After 3-6 months, you can reintroduce these foods back into your diet in modest amounts.  They are identified by a black dot icon."


Thanks for the info, sluggerbean (BTW, I love that moniker ... it has a 40s noir feel to it like a character in a Dick Tracey comic   )
Sorry to be a pain. Is there any indication what "modest amount" means?
e.g. I eat 6 prunes a day. To some people, that would be a lot of prunes but I don't think it's that much.

The devil is in the detail as they say.
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Sorry to be a pain. Is there any indication what "modest amount" means?

No

Quoted from vandelam
e.g. I eat 6 prunes a day. To some people, that would be a lot of prunes but I don't think it's that much.

I wouldn't consider daily consumption of that many to be a modest amount.



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Is there any indication what "modest amount" means?
I don't know.  This may be a question to post on the GT site.  Or maybe someone else here knows?


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I don't know.  This may be a question to post on the GT site.


That would be an excellent idea.
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e.g. I eat 6 prunes a day. To some people, that would be a lot of prunes but I don't think it's that much.


You can eat dates---they kind of look like prunes to an untrained eye!  

As far as a modest amount...modest amount to me means if you get stuck somewhere and have to eat it then not to worry!  But everybody is different..and Individual!


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Broccoli is still beneficial, although not a superbennie.




what do you mean superbennie? all i see is superfoods.
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Well, I remeasured & I am definitely a Hunter type. This time I used a two-sided ruler & was able to see more clearly that my ring finger on both hands is definitely longer than my index finger. After I made that correction in my calculations I strength-tested strongly as a Hunter. Now it's all coming together & making sense to me.  I'm on my way to giving it a super try.  Thanks Don for all your help.  I don't think that I could have come this far without your guidance & encouragement.  We're all in this together & I plan to give it my all & share my experience with all of you.  I also look forward to share in your experiences too.  
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what do you mean superbennie? all i see is superfoods.


A "diamond" food is supposed to support weight loss, as I understand it.  Because weight-loss is key for me I try to concentrate on those foods as much as possible.

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Welcome Rex!  And good to see you too, HG247!

I know every one is anxious to hear about my 1:00 am Hunter snack---well, tonite it is walnuts quickly heated with a spoon of Ghee and dusted with curry powder.  I'm drinking Grapefruit Juice and listening to Johnny Cash on Zune.

I keep thinking about Blue Agave Tequila...anybody want to take a vote?!  


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(posted this as well on the 'Finger Measurements'thread but wanted to introduce why I am now here!)

Well after being on the eating regime for about 5 days as a Gatherer and then having the last 2-1/2 days be full of inflammation flareups, burping after almost every meal, and now finally tummy getting swollen up like a barrel and constipation with a final struggle to pass what ended up being diarreha, I felt something was not right.  Something felt very off.

So I sat and spent careful time measuring and marking on the ruler my finger measurements 4 times tonight.  Studied the instructions more carefully in the book and watched You-Tube again.  Turns out I have been very wrong.

My ring fingers are visably longer than my index fingers (on the ruler); and with my other measurements all intact I went to the advanced calculator and no matter what way I try to spell it, I fall into the Hunter category.  

So I've been booted out by my body from the Gatherer Tribe to here!  

It feels so much better.  I was having such a hard time trying to fit into the Gatherer and had really come to accept what seemed to be my new road.  So to have it turn out like this is going to be much easier for my digestive system to wrap around!  Boy oh boy...
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lol funkymuse...do you mind telling us what you ate so we don't make the same mistake?
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I ate all superbeni Gatherer foods with a few neutrals.

So if you are Hunter DO NOT eat Gatherer foods!!!
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There is some overlap.  
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good luck more on the Hunter diet Funkymuse. The only thing i'm jealous of the Gatherer's diet is the Mushrooms they get to eat and the Kombucha.  
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Thanks... so far so good.  Yes I'm jealous of several things but there are a few new things other than what I used to eat on the O Secretor diet.  Not much has changed from that on the Hunter eating regime and I felt wonderful on that.

However the things I'm jealous of make me feel horrid so I don't feel too bad about not having them.
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So glad you figured this out!  As Lloyd says there is some overlap...but not a lot.  When I was reading about the Gatherer diet, and before I measured, I was really hoping I wasn't a G.  I need the Protein from the Hunter diet.  Also, I've mentioned this before, but the H. Diet seems like a more sophisticated  
version of my O-nonnie diet.  I still am happy to be a Hunter--and very Happy for you Funkymuse that you are, too!  


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So glad you figured this out!  As Lloyd says there is some overlap...but not a lot.  When I was reading about the Gatherer diet, and before I measured, I was really hoping I wasn't a G.  I need the Protein from the Hunter diet.  Also, I've mentioned this before, but the H. Diet seems like a more sophisticated  
version of my O-nonnie diet.  I still am happy to be a Hunter--and very Happy for you Funkymuse that you are, too!  


Thank you Myrabee!  I'm looking forward to this thread taking off.  The Gatherers have a good thread going....

Here's what I would like to share currently:

I made a Mango/Pumpkin protein shake today and man oh man!  You'd never think mango and pumpkin would go together but they do!

Also, I was so surprised to see Papaya off the good list for good!  But that's ok.. I'm looking forward to cabbage rolls again once 4-6 months has passed!!  And now when I eat Mooshi Chicken at the chinese food place (very rarely),I don't have to be afraid of the cabbage!  And another great thing is that now DATES are benies!!!
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I spent a very frustrating time trying to get the everything measured right, doing all the measurements myself with no help, and came up Hunter which seems right.  I may order the taste and fingerprint test kit to see what they indicate, but Hunter came up strong on the strength test too even without them. So for now, I'm concluding I'm a Hunter.  And I guess no more collards, which I've been eating every day since I went on the BTD because they are easier to wash than kale.  And what about Romaine?
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Romaine is a neutral.

Since you have your secretor status and blood type, all you need is Rh and leg, torso and finger measurements. Strength testing would be irrelevant.

I was eating collards almost every day too, now it's mostly mustard greens or turnip greens. The turnip greens are easy to wash but sandy.
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Quoted from Lloyd

Since you have your secretor status and blood type, all you need is Rh and leg, torso and finger measurements. Strength testing would be irrelevant.

I was eating collards almost every day too, now it's mostly mustard greens or turnip greens. The turnip greens are easy to wash but sandy.


What confuses me is that I have severe chemical intolerances from a formaldehyde injury, which made me think I would be an Explorer, certainly not a Hunter.  But there is no way I test for Explorer.

I find turnip greens insipid compared to collards, but I'll try mustard.  It's hard to get over the idea that mustard greens were Avoids and now are beneficial.

Also ever since I got the Arthritis book, I've been struggling to eliminate all brown rice from my diet.  I was about 90% through that process, and now suddenly brown rice is good, and spelt, and esp. kamut, are bad.  I'm kind of glad though, because I can't even buy spelt locally and it's costly to ship.
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I have just found out for sure that I am a Hunter (thanks Lloyd and Gumby for your help).  Having long ring fingers certainly helped to cut down on the debating time  

I am waiting for my book (sounds of impatient finger drumming) but I am really keen to get on with things and exercise is top of my list.  

Am I right in thinking that Hunters should be exercising a lot?  There is no way that I am going jogging, I would damage something (I am not one of the tall skinny Hunters that's for sure  ). I walk for an hour most days and I have just started swimming a couple of times a week.  Would this be vigorous/often enough?  

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Ruth, the walking and swimming sound great. Try to do something every day.
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Thanks Lloyd, that is excellent.  I have always thought I was probably an athletic type with a marshmallow layer on top.   Now I just need to get rid of the marshmallow   
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my new comfort food breakfast...hot millet porridge with ghee and a bit of agave syrup...all sperbene


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just tried Quinoa for the first time tonight. . it gets the thumbs up! so do these sesame seed rice cakes. and i tried frozen millet bread but im wondering if i'm getting any benefit because its frozen? it also is sweetened with fruit, which according to food combining is a nono..
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my new comfort food breakfast...hot millet porridge with ghee and a bit of agave syrup...all sperbene


That sounds good!  How are you doing with no meat at breakfast?


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I haven't tried not having meat for breakfast yet.  Since starting BTD, that has been the only thing I have eaten that keeps me from starving before lunch.

Speaking of lunch, I tried a new salad combo for lunch today. I had mustard greens and kale with broccoli.  It wasn't bad.  I squirted some grapefruit juice on it, since I had some grapefruit to eat with lunch anyway.  That was pretty good on it.  Then I had my salmon about an hour or so later during my conference period.

I didn't have time to make that salad dressing that Lloyd told us about this morning.  I guess I need to play with that tonight.

Any suggestions for salad combos?  Salad is the easiest thing for me to have at lunch since I only have a scant 23 minutes for lunch.


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Hi there, I reserved the book with my local library, which it is out of. I was going to try the BTD but am thinking i should try this one instead? Or are they the same, .

I am a type O, I think a hunter, but how can i tell for sure? Looking at my hands, the index finger appears longer than the pointer finger, but i didnt know where to measure from to tell for sure. They almost look even from some aspects.

Anyhow, I went shopping today for Spelt things, and Ezekial bread, and soy things. And, now im wondering if i did the right thing?

I was a low carber on and off, which is the only way i could lose weight, but am looking for a more interesting and healthy WOE, and the BTD always interested me.
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Nothing wrong with eating the food you bought.   When you get a chance to read the GTD book, things will be a little clearer to you and you can decide what you want to do then.

You could also visit genotypediet.com, it is a pay site but has many helpful features that you will not get here.
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I was going to try the BTD but am thinking i should try this one instead? Or are they the same, .


The GTD is built on the BTD. You will get a benefit either way (imo).



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Hi to all of the new folks checking in here!!

I am definitely losing weight since I changed over to the GTD.  Because I have a "mental  thing" about portion control...well any kind of control  , I am  making sure I eat diamonds and other "super-foods", but not restricting portions at this time.

I want to go over to the GTD site, but because of my "mental thing" I'm waiting until I feel as if I have a good handle on the GTD first.  When BTD was on eDiets I did not find that site to be reliable...hoping this one will be better!  

I'm also dealing with my night eating a little better---I just had my "snack" two hours earlier than usual.  Tonight it was curried walnuts, grapefruit juice, bananna w/ tahini, and a date.

Happy Hunting!  


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Myra, do you have a very high metabolic rate? Eating enough "good" starches for dinner usually takes care of snacking later in the evening. For me atleast..


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Happy hoping to be Hunter!!
As an aside--A friend & I spent a lot of time discussing the GT on Sunday. Then we were trying to remember the name of all or most of the candidates. Man, I just couldn't think of that obscure congressman from California.
Then after I left her presence I rmembered that common-sounding name!!!  HUNTER!!!!!! I don't think I'll forget it now!! !!!!
The hunter diet is a lot like the O-nonnie diet, so I'm going to try to focus on it until I know for sure. The problem is that it doesn't have many diamonds. It is the easiest of the 3 O diets to stay with for now. I'm sure I'll find out soon.
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Myra, do you have a very high metabolic rate? Eating enough "good" starches for dinner usually takes care of snacking later in the evening. For me atleast..


Thanks so much for the advice, accidental chef!  I'm eating dinner right now--8:00pm and I'm having steak, black-eyed peas w/ garlic, and turnips with crushed red pepper.  I'm using curry powder for a dry dip for my steak.  I'm going to make sure I've drunk enough water, and see if I can pass up my midnight snack...which is really like a meal.  I would have had some greens but the stove was too busy tonight!

UPDATE:  at 11:45 pm I mixed some honey/agave with some cocoa for a snack.  It will be interesting to see how I feel in the morning with this smaller, sweeter snack tonight.


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Myra I hope the combo works!


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Fellow Hunters, how do you react to temperatures-heat & cold?

I can tolerate "naturally" hot & cold weathers...but find it excruciating to sit in an air conditioned room with the temp set at 20 deg C and below. At the height of summer here in the tropics it's impossible to walk outside in the mornings after 8am..but I'm OK at home without airconditioning as long as there is plenty of ventilation.  

And..(this is from the sleep thread) how many sleeping hours are you happy with? I'm happy & alert and full of beans with 6hrs, and naturally wake up after 6 hrs of sleep. If I sleep longer than that (like the recommended 8-10hrs)I feel sluggish.

What say you?


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Good topics!  

Mentally, I "like" nine hours--but usually sleep seven.  It seems like the happier I am the less I want to sleep.

As far as temperature goes--I Have to be cool.  We haven't turned our furnace on this year--and in the summer I Live in the air conditioning...or the air conditioned car.  

The only activity I like is swimming--it keeps me cool!  However, in the winter, the pool is kept at 94 degrees F, and I need it that warm--any cooler and I don't think I could do it.

What activities/exercises do you other Hunters enjoy---or anyone else for that matter!  


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Happy hoping to be Hunter!!  The hunter diet is a lot like the O-nonnie diet, so I'm going to try to focus on it until I know for sure. The problem is that it doesn't have many diamonds. It is the easiest of the 3 O diets to stay with for now. I'm sure I'll find out soon. Cherio, Mrs "T"  O+  


I totally agree the Hunter plan seems to be the easiest of the O's.  I was planning to cry if I was an Explorer!     



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For temperatures - I hate the cold & since I love summer, am dismayed at so much A/C everywhere. When I was younger, it was mostly in department stores, not everywhere.
So I try to avoid it & at work, have to wear many layers.
I'd rather have hot weather & dress with shorts & a tank top to feel the air flow & sunshine, etc.
Ah, modern life has so many things that are against nature. It's not just the bad food.
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For temperatures - I hate the cold & since I love summer, am dismayed at so much A/C everywhere. When I was younger, it was mostly in department stores, not everywhere.


I had to laugh when I read about your childhood experiences with A/C!  I was brought up in Dallas, and hated our summer trips to Minneapolis--in part due to the absolute lack of Air Conditioning--anywhere!  




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I have a very narrow comfort range with temperatures.

I feel best in 80 degree temperatures.  Once it drops below that, I'm looking for my winter coat.  (Yesterday was a real treat having almost 70 degrees in the beginning of January.)

I usually don't like air conditioning but I need it if the temperatures are in the 90's with humidity.  When that happens at home I cool the air to about 80 degrees.  But I find myself turning blue when I'm in most public air conditioned places if in for more than a few minutes. (It feels like they set it to 50 degrees!)  I guess my body just can't regulate  heat very well.  I went for a couple of years of not being able to sweat but things are getting better so if I continue to improve maybe I won't be so sensitive to temperature fluctuations.

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I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.
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  Because I have a "mental  thing" about portion control...well any kind of control  , I am  making sure I eat diamonds and other "super-foods", but not restricting portions at this time.


I just received the book and I must admit the portions are "disturbing" to me. I never took much notice of the portions on the BTD so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm surprised that red meat is 3-5 servings per week. So, I guess my 12 servings is excessive!!!
I was also surprised that poultry became a super food and should be up to 4 servings a week. My intake on the BTD was infrequent, maybe once or twice a fortnight. I also found that I always felt hungry after eating chicken.
And now that 40 minutes of exercise daily is recommended, I really don't see how I could stick to the portion sizes.

Another weird one is beverage. 6-8oz servings 2-3 times per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 8oz of pineapple juice in a shake at breakfast. I usually have 4 cups of decaf green tea at work during the day which accounts for the rest of my allowance. So that's it. When I get home in the evening, all I'll be able to drink is water.
Very odd. I actually don't understand the restrictions for beverage. I'm sure a cup of chamomile tea wouldn't tip me over the edge, whatever that edge is.

Also, what is everyone doing for the carbohydrate portion? Up to one and a half cups daily is way more than I eat now.

Does everyone still eat protein for breakfast? On the BTD, I eat 3 eggs every day for brekfast which really sets me up for the day. On GTD, the portion is 7-9 eggs per week.
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I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.


Hi, Cindy!

I'm glad you posted here.  We are all in this together, yet its important to rememebr we are all Individuals too.   Have you followed BTD, either currently or in the past?

One of my personal "clinchers" for Hunter GenoType was my inability to eat many Gatherer foods.  I'm fairly  certain I wouldn't have been so certain about the Hunter id if I hadn't been so successful on Type O nonnie diet--which is a lot like Hunter plan.

Hopefully, Lloyd and some of the others will by here soon and can offer some support to you, as well.

We're going to be just fine!  





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I just received the book and I must admit the portions are "disturbing" to me. I never took much notice of the portions on the BTD so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm surprised that red meat is 3-5 servings per week. So, I guess my 12 servings is excessive!!!
I was also surprised that poultry became a super food and should be up to 4 servings a week. My intake on the BTD was infrequent, maybe once or twice a fortnight. I also found that I always felt hungry after eating chicken.
And now that 40 minutes of exercise daily is recommended, I really don't see how I could stick to the portion sizes.

Another weird one is beverage. 6-8oz servings 2-3 times per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 8oz of pineapple juice in a shake at breakfast. I usually have 4 cups of decaf green tea at work during the day which accounts for the rest of my allowance. So that's it. When I get home in the evening, all I'll be able to drink is water.
Very odd. I actually don't understand the restrictions for beverage. I'm sure a cup of chamomile tea wouldn't tip me over the edge, whatever that edge is.

Also, what is everyone doing for the carbohydrate portion? Up to one and a half cups daily is way more than I eat now.

Does everyone still eat protein for breakfast? On the BTD, I eat 3 eggs every day for brekfast which really sets me up for the day. On GTD, the portion is 7-9 eggs per week.


Thanks for posting!  You raise some really interesting questions.  

One I'd like to address is the beverage "limit".  Actually, I view the portions as a minimum standard--at least in this category.  That means at least 3 of my beverages each day needs to come off of the Hunter super-beverages list. This could be grapefruit juice, rooibos tea and lemon balm tea. I usually just drink juice and no tea, but as soon as I adjust more to some of the GTD changes I will be adding teas as well.

I don't eat many grain carbs, but when I do I follow the superfoods lists.  One way I feel as if I "amp up the good carbs" is using plant carbs more often; black beans, fava beans, etc.  They seem to be more helpful to me than rice, etc.

I also stick to beef pretty much, with lamb when its available.  I don't feel that good when I eat chicken. I eat lots of greens everyday, and no nightshades at all. Lots of garlic/onions/curry powder/red pepper.  Tahini, too.

As far as breakfast goes, I still have protein, either eggs or beef/lamb. I know some others are trying out some new grains.

Hope this helps--please keep posting here; we want to help!


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I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.


Hey cindy, Don was also surprised to wind up a gatherer. By the tables, yes, an O sec female with longer index fingers is always a gatherer. It's entirely possible that the chemo et al has affected your gene expression through the methylation process, and that correction of that expression and undoing the 'gathering' of various toxins is best accomplished by the gatherer program.

I think most of us find that our new diet is something that we naturally gravitate to but it does not have to work that way to be right. Before I started BTD I thought it was right to eat peanuts and drink milk and so on, they tasted good to me and felt right. I hope that you give the GTD a real chance to work, even if it means gradually adjusting over. You also have the option of sticking with 'plain BTD' which is good but not as powerful. If the gatherer diet does not show progress given a decent trial, well, time to reexamine what would be a special case. There is no guarantee the GTD will work for everybody.
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That sounds good!  How are you doing with no meat at breakfast?


i have meat as leftovers usually when I make a stew or sardines for breakfast



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One I'd like to address is the beverage "limit".  Actually, I view the portions as a minimum standard--at least in this category.  That means at least 3 of my beverages each day needs to come off of the Hunter super-beverages list. This could be grapefruit juice, rooibos tea and lemon balm tea. I usually just drink juice and no tea, but as soon as I adjust more to some of the GTD changes I will be adding teas as well.



That's an interesting take on it but it would be strange that this food category would have different parameters for interpreting portion control.
I really have to presume that Dr. D actually means this to be the limit.
If you look at fish, Dr.D actually specifies " ... at least 4 servings" which implies that minimum standard you talk about.

I never worried about portions on the BTD and the improvements in my health have been nothing short of remarkable but I am left wondering whether I should try out the exact portions that Dr.D has specified for the GTD to see if I reach some form of health nirvana  

One other weird change is viewing cheese as a Super food. I have been so diligent in removing cheese from my diet that I almost hate the smell of it now. Back to the cheese board  

Have any hunters joined the website? Can you post some of the breakfast menu suggestions. I'm interested at the levels of protein. Thanks in advance.
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Have any hunters joined the website? Can you post some of the breakfast menu suggestions. I'm interested at the levels of protein. Thanks in advance.


I have and I do not like the menus. Too low on the protin side for me so ultra low for you

Breakfast tends to be grain, nut (creams) and fruit or some odd egg.

If you did not follow BTD portions why do you want to bother with GTD ones? Actually, perhaps, as you say, you reach nirvana if you do

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Does anyone know if Coconut milk is the same as coconut water?

I have a great protein shake recipe that calls for coconut water....

???

Also I joined the free week and don't care for the menus either.  There are some avoids in some of the recipies.

My breakfast always includes meat or a heavy protein source.  It's the only way I can make it to lunch without cravings or hunger.

Todays breakfast was egg/eggwhite omlet with spinich.  1 hamburger patty and pineapple.

Delicious and satisfying.
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I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.


Cindy... I thought I was a gatherer as well and surrendered to doing the gatherer diet.  within 5 days I was bloated, gaseous, burping, my joints were totally swollen and I was miserable.  So i carefully remeasured my fingers knowing something was off.  Found out I was wrong about my fingers and I'm totally a Hunter.  So one way is to just try the diet and see!  That will really tell you  more than anything else.  
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Cindy... I thought I was a gatherer as well and surrendered to doing the gatherer diet.  within 5 days I was bloated, gaseous, burping, my joints were totally swollen and I was miserable.  So i carefully remeasured my fingers knowing something was off.  Found out I was wrong about my fingers and I'm totally a Hunter.  So one way is to just try the diet and see!  That will really tell you  more than anything else.  


This is what I plan to do.  The only Gatherer characteristic I have is that my ring fingers and index fingers are so close I get differing results.  All the other stuff shows me to be a Hunter, ectomorph, family history, weak points, etc. etc.  I know that eating Hunter won't harm me, because I've been pretty much doing it even on the BTD, and it really helped me.  Maybe one day Dr. D. will tell us to consider more than just the ring fingers.

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cindy, I have the same situation...my fingerlengths are all that's keeping me a gatherer and not a hunter and they are soo soo close...? but the gatherer diet calls to me, so I am going with it.
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Hey Hunters... just created a great drink!

Cold Brewed Green Tea and Pineapple Juice!!! Yah!
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Wow, I'm a Hunter! Salmon, green beans, grapefruit, pineapple, chocolate, and cinnamon all go to superbennie!!!  This pleases me to no end.  I will miss my plums, prunes, almond milk, figs, grapes, apples, spinach, and carrots.   This will take some getting used to.

Now maybe I will lose this weight--stop, no maybes this time.  I will lose this weight!   Off to explore the book more....


Hey!  So glad to have you aboard!!!

The spinich thing was weird, huh?!  Oh well, I've discovered that I can do Swiss Chard with a little agave (hard being a super taster - the greens are so bitter!).

BUT we get to have Apricots again after the initial period!  And I love apricots!  AND DATES!!! Yah yah yah!!!  
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Hello Happy Hunters!

I have found that I really love mustard greens--when cooked they taste somewhat like a lighter, young spinach.  I also eat turnip greens, but they are not as much of a fave as the mustard greens.

I also like fresh escarole; I eat it like salad and put Lloyd's tahini dressing on it.  Does anybody know any other way to eat it?  I like the "spicy" taste to it.  

Does anybody else have any new salad ideas?  Spinach and Romaine were always my old stand-bys.  I have a feeling I'm really going to miss spinach salads this summer.  


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Swiss chard is almost like spinach especially if you pick the young leaves.
Also kale (especially the young leaves of Tuscan kale or cavollo nero) are beautiful in a salad.

My salad base used to be kale, spinach, beet greens and the occasional leaf of swiss chard which I usually left for the chickens since spinach was the bene. I guess the chickens will get the spinach now and I'll eat the swiss chard.

I need to buy some seeds for mustard greens now. According to the seed catalog, you can plant them all year round.
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cindy, I have the same situation...my fingerlengths are all that's keeping me a gatherer and not a hunter and they are soo soo close...?


I too struggled with the finger lengths; one minute I'm an Explorer, next I'm a Hunter. How firm to press the ruler into the web between the fingers? It could make all the difference.
However in the book, Dr.D specifically states to measure "from the bottom of the crease between each finger and the middle finger". Maybe my hands are different but it seems to me there is only one bottom of the crease.

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Chicory is another salad green, very strong flavor. I've tried a modified tahini that uses cherry juice (bought in Dec) instead of lemon. It's okay too but does not mix as well.

I had a stew tonight. Leftover lima beans, stew beef, onion, garlic, and 'all the good spices'. Would have been better with lamb but still nice.

Several times my evening protein dish has been sardines, cilantro, garlic, nutritional yeast and maybe tarragon or thyme. Just mash it up, makes a nice 'cold salad'.
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Nutritional yeast...I have no real clue how to use it!  Does it have any taste...what about yeast infections?

On another note, my best friend who lives about an hour away came to visit today.  We measured  and researched and think she is a Gatherer.  I think she is going to join the GTD site--are they adjusting the avoids in the recipes yet?  Amybe I should ask the Gatherers.  


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Chicory is another salad green, very strong flavor.


Is this the same chicory that is in French Market coffee in New Orleans, and Vietnamese coffee?


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Sort of. The root is roasted (like dandelion root gets roasted) and used with coffee or as a substitute.  
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Swiss chard is almost like spinach especially if you pick the young leaves.
How can you tell if it is young?  The only time I have ever seen it was in the grocery store.


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The spinich thing was weird, huh?!  Oh well, I've discovered that I can do Swiss Chard with a little agave (hard being a super taster - the greens are so bitter!).



When I started cooking my Swiss Chard in my new All Clad pot, I wrote to the company complaining that it tasted bitter (I didn't remember it tasting bitter when I was young).  They wrote back and asked me if I had ever tried adding a little olive oil when I cooked it.  It solved the problem and my chard tasted sweet.

A few years later I got quite a nice water softener and reverse osmosis system put in my house.  When I use the reverse osmosis water to cook chard, I no longer have to use olive oil, and my chard tastes sweet.

So, I'm assuming there are some type of minerals in drinking water that cause the chard to taste bitter.  Anyhow, the olive oil worked for me.
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Nutritional yeast...I have no real clue how to
use it!

add it to your salads as faux grated Parmesan cheese...
or make a spread.....there s a recipe PT posted.


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How can you tell if it is young?  The only time I have ever seen it was in the grocery store.



Yeah, sorry sluggerbean, I grow my own so it's easy to pick as the leaves are developing. The leaves you buy in the shop will always be "old"
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Does anyone know if Coconut milk is the same as coconut water?

I have a great protein shake recipe that calls for coconut water....???


Coconut water is the water that is inside the nut. You get by cracking open the nut. Coconut milk is what you get from the white flesh of the coconut.


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hey!  didn't know that, cool


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When I started cooking my Swiss Chard in my new All Clad pot, I wrote to the company complaining that it tasted bitter (I didn't remember it tasting bitter when I was young).  They wrote back and asked me if I had ever tried adding a little olive oil when I cooked it.  It solved the problem and my chard tasted sweet.

A few years later I got quite a nice water softener and reverse osmosis system put in my house.  When I use the reverse osmosis water to cook chard, I no longer have to use olive oil, and my chard tastes sweet.

So, I'm assuming there are some type of minerals in drinking water that cause the chard to taste bitter.  Anyhow, the olive oil worked for me.


We just cook an onion and garlic in ghee (or olive oil), until nice and brown and then we add the swiss chard which we have cleaned and torn into small pieces just slightly cooking until barely wilted.  And it still tastes bitter.  (but this is my super taster issue - my husband is not a super taster and love it - says there's not bitter taste!)
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Nice to see your picture Eric!  I think I'll try to post mine too so friends here can connect a face with my name  

Also--thanks everyone who contributed the swiss chard info.  I'm going shopping today, and its definitely on my list.  Also I'm going to take a look at nutritional yeast. (Thanks Lola!   )I'm a super taster so not looking forward to bitter taste--but will see what I can do with it.  Does anybody eat it raw?

I feel so much better with my hunter diet tune-up--and I already felt good before!  I think the grapefruit is really, really helping me.  And guess what--I hardly even miss cherry juice anymore! However, I'm still going to keep some on hand for my feet.



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the reason some people said pick it small is because when large it has a lot of oxalic acid....so if you buy swiss chard, cook it, lightly steamed is also good.
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Nice to see your picture Eric!  I think I'll try to post mine too so friends here can connect a face with my name  

Also--thanks everyone who contributed the swiss chard info.  I'm going shopping today, and its definitely on my list.  Also I'm going to take a look at nutritional yeast. (Thanks Lola!   )I'm a super taster so not looking forward to bitter taste--but will see what I can do with it.  Does anybody eat it raw?

I feel so much better with my hunter diet tune-up--and I already felt good before!  I think the grapefruit is really, really helping me.  And guess what--I hardly even miss cherry juice anymore! However, I'm still going to keep some on hand for my feet.



I cook the swiss chard in ghee (as posted earlier), and then I put some agave syrup on it.  Doesn't take much and down it goes... with the bitter taste all disguised!
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Whoa... just did the fingerprinting and the strength testing for Hunter.. 24 points!  I guess that's the final confirmation.

I would have scored all boxes but I'm a meso- ectomorph so I didn't think it was fair to take those points.  I have more muscle than say someone like Angelina Jolie.      BUT I'm definitely not totally Muscle bound at all.

My fingers are full of ridges and loops and all matching.  My left thumb looks like it has a loop and a circle.  can't read it at all! But all else is loops and white lines!

This was fun!
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Great News, funkymuse!!  But we just knew it all along!!      And a special thank you for all of your wise contributions here!  


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Good News, Funkymuse!!  But we just knew it all along!!      And a special thank you for all of your wise contributions here!  


Wow.. how kind of you!  Thanks for smiling at me with words!

Sometimes I have time to chime in and other times I don't but I sure miss it when I don't.  I think someone had a thread about an addiction to this board... well jeeez I'm afraid I must stand up and annouce:

Hello, my name is Christina and I'm a BTD/GTD addict!  ha...

Ya can't help it when you feel so good.


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Hello, my name is Christina and I'm a BTD/GTD addict!



I guess I qualify, as well!  I have a very busy day today getting ready for work tomorrow, and today I've checked into the boards every time I think I've got a minute to browse!  


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I just used the genotype calculator on the website and it confirmed that I'm a Hunter.  Nothing showed up at all in the Gatherer box.  My fingers are the same length.  They ask a lot of other questions, but not blood type or secretor status.  If you have any doubts about your status, like because of the finger uncertainty, I recommend using the calculator.
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There is an input area for blood type, Rh and secretor stauts.

Home > GenoType Calculator > Basics (questions 5-7)
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There is an input area for blood type, Rh and secretor stauts.

Home > GenoType Calculator > Basics (questions 5-7)


Once I entered that, all the other genotypes disappeared from the chart  
I gotta be a Hunter!
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I don't know, Don mentioned there was a problem with the calculator algorithm that miscalculated equal finger lengths as ring longer rather than index longer. By the advanced tables in the book, you are a gatherer based on O sec female longer (equal) indexes......
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Just figured out that I am a Hunter too.  It will take some adjustment. As for Nutritional yeast, I put mine into my morning smoothie along with rice protein and egg white protein, pineapple juice, banana and blueberries. At least I think that is all all right still. (other than combining protein and carbohydrate) It really helps me get through until lunch.
I am glad to have grapefruit again.  I think it has always helped me with weight loss.  
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Welcome RHTeacher! Glad to have you with us--I think Grapefruit is really helping me lose weight, too.  I'm still not brave enough to try the n. yeast, yet.  Can anyone suggest a brand thats good and compliant?


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KAL or Lewis, I believe are brands.


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What does one do with this nutritional yeast?
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You don't eat nutritional yeast by itself.  I mix a tablespoon with my breakfast every morning.  It adds a pleasant taste to nuts and fruit.  I've also sprinkled it on salads and blended it in smoothies.  

It's not something you eat by itself with a spoon!!!  Think of it more as a condiment.  

It's loaded with B vitamins and protein.  


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really, the taste of nutritional yeast goes best with grains. It can be liberally sprinkled on hot rice, quinoa, millet etc. along with evoo, and cayenne, a bit of garlic! Yum. Not on anything sweet, fruity, etc. Not!
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Hi fellow hunters! I have to say, this WOE has changed my life! Really I am losing weight every day, even though it is little tiny bits at a time, it is better then before, when i was up, down, up, down. I am wondering how many of you guys are really strict about not eating any of the toxic foods? I have to admit i still have some stuff in the fridge, and now that DH is an Explorer, I am worried about cooking for the 2 of us.

Last night i tried Quinoa for the first time!! It was good! I also made chicken w/ a Tarragon sauce, also very good. I put some of the sauce on the Quinoa. Hubby liked it too, he is very picky.

Is there a place where I can find recipes and exchange here?
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I am wondering how many of you guys are really strict about not eating any of the toxic foods? Is there a place where I can find recipes and exchange here?




So glad you are doing so well on the Hunter diet.  I, too, have been consistently losing weight.  I absolutely do not eat any avoid foods, if I can possibly help it.  Not going out to eat helps the most with that!

There are recipes here, and a Cook Right Board, perhaps they will help--also if you have any particular questions just ask! Some of us are pretty good in the kitchen...others of us are pretty good at asking for help!


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Sorry, no parsley  


increase immune function already high for hunters...makes sence



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That sounds good!  How are you doing with no meat at breakfast?


I have leftover meat for breakfast....if I have the millet in the morning I will usually have a protein drink first thing in the morning with fresh pineapple juice and banana mixed in...the banana takes away the little gritty texture of the protein O powder



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hunters have to be careful not to stress out the adrenal glands.

I was getting sick of eating dried figs and prunes.Cranberries and grapefruit are a welcomed change.


I'm a  gheeaholic now


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hunters have to be careful not to stress out the adrenal glands.

I was getting sick of eating dried figs and prunes.Cranberries and grapefruit are a welcomed change.


I'm a  gheeaholic now


Mike, can you talk more about the adrenal / hunter diet connection.

My chiropractor says it's the stress on my adrenals that is causing some of my lower back problems. On the BTD, I was a dried fig and prune fiend. I could never get enough of them.
You seem to suggest there is a connection?
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we're adrenalin driven and if we don't tame this drive through proper exercise , diet and stress reduction, "the hunter's pituitary adrenal glands go into overdrive...watch out (partners of hunter's will know what I mean) and even a little stress becomes too much"

see page 117 in the GT book

this is why our slogan is 'shoot first , ask questions later'


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we're adrenalin driven and if we don't tame this drive through proper exercise , diet and stress reduction, "the hunter's pituitary adrenal glands go into overdrive...watch out (partners of hunter's will know what I mean) and even a little stress becomes too much"

see page 117 in the GT book

this is why our slogan is 'shoot first , ask questions later'



This "adrenal connection" is all it takes to absolutely convince me that Dr. D and the GTD is spot on.  I am so adrenal driven, and receive such benefit from exercise as a stress reducer--as well as the Hunter diet--well, as I said, I don't need anymore proof than that!

Additionally, totally removing sugar/milk/wheat from my diet has really stabilized my overall sense of well-being.  I used to eat lots of dairy before BTD, and still ate quite a bit if ice cream even on BTD.  

However, since being on GTD, even a little bit of dairy and sugar makes me ill--I ate a very small amount of "rice pudding" at the Indian buffet the other day and it seemed to cancel out the benefits of my lamb curry and small portion of basmati.  And I do mean cancel out!!

My weight loss is really ramped up a couple of notches since I started GTD.  I'm encouraged!!



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This "adrenal connection" is all it takes to absolutely convince me that Dr. D and the GTD is spot on.


So true.

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hunters have to be careful not to stress out the adrenal glands.

I was getting sick of eating dried figs and prunes.Cranberries and grapefruit are a welcomed change.


Mike,
are dried figs and prunes particularly bad for adrenals  and cranberries and grapefruit particularly good? or was this just a casual observation of your own preferences?

I have not seen fresh cranberries in Australia. We have things called "craisins", basically dried cranberries. Would these be any good?

I still can't get my head around the portions in the GTD book. I never worried about portion size on the BTD and still had remarkable improvements in health so I might do the same with GTD
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I'm getting acid indigestion from Grapefruit Juice.  Any ideas about this since this is a superfood for Hunters?

Possibly my gut and digestive track is so messed up from years of bad eating that I can't take this for awhile.

I would always have that issue with Seltzer as well.. I would have to open the can to let the bubbles out and then drink it and I still burped and got some tummy upset.

Any clues?
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Have you tried fresh homemade squeezed grapefruit juice instead of store bought?  
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I have not seen fresh cranberries in Australia. We have things called "craisins", basically dried cranberries. Would these be any good?


What for the "sugars" in the "craisins." Cranberries are very tart and need lots of sugar which makes them really expensive compared to other dried fruit so in order to make prices more competitive "cheap sugars" are always welcomed by the industry.

In any case, sugar is out for us Hunters.

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Have you tried fresh homemade squeezed grapefruit juice instead of store bought?  


no I haven't.  I was buying organic in a bottle.

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Hi Everybody!

A couple of food comments...

The Grapefruit Juice I drink is Texsun Ruby Red in a can.  I, very surprisingly, have no difficulty digesting it--in fact it seems as if it aids digestion.  I know some folks will understandibly have difficulties with juice in a can and made from concentrate.  I understand those concerns.  However, for my budget this is what works best for me.  I do think the Ruby Red is the way to go!  And--as soon as I open the can, I immediately transfer the juice to a glass bottle.

Another menu note--I just had fried sweet potatoes/onions for part of my supper!!  Absolutely exquisite!  I used Ghee to saute them, covered them and let them steam for five minutes or so--and had Ambrosia on a plate!!

These are real sweet potatoes--Not Yams.  I bought them at the Korean grocery, and I'll definitely be buying more!


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In any case, sugar is out for us Hunters.


Isn't this the truth?!!  I have spent decades consuming massive amounts of that poison white powder, and I cannot tell you have thankful I am to finally understand how Toxic it is to me.




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The Grapefruit Juice I drink is Texsun Ruby Red in a can.


Whether fresh or in a can or frozen, red is clearly the way to go. Tastes better, doesn't upset the stomach, more lycopene.
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If you have a juicer, one grapefruit produces quite a lot of juice.

Always check ingredients on fruit juices to see if there are ingredients such as guar gum.
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If you have a juicer, one grapefruit produces quite a lot of juice.

Always check ingredients on fruit juices to see if there are ingredients such as guar gum.


Wow... I had purchased pink grapefruit and that was the worst culprit on my tummy!  

I only purchase pure organic stuff... no other ingredients ever if I can help it.

thanks all for the tip about Ruby Red!

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Welcome Hunters and all other GT Companions!  

I just had another thought about Grapefruit juice--I almost always sprinkle Himalayan Pink Sea Salt in my juice before I drink it.  It smooths out the taste, and the Sea Salt really seems to helps my body.


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Welcome Hunters and all other GT Companions!  

I just had another thought about Grapefruit juice--I almost always sprinkle Himalayan Pink Sea Salt in my juice before I drink it.  It smooths out the taste, and the Sea Salt really seems to helps my body.


Now that sounds nice!  What is this Himalayan Pink Sea Salt?  Never heard of it...
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I bought a transparent plastic ruler to use instead of the sharp metal one with numbers only on one side, remeasured my fingers, and now there's no doubt at all that I'm a Hunter.
The new Hunter foods I've tested have all been really good for me too. And I've gained a pound, which for me is hugely good news.
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Welcome to our Tree Stand, CindyT!!  

Doesn't it feel great when you finally get settled into the right plan for you?!

Here is the link for my Sea Salt, Funky Muse.  It tastes wonderful, and I've never been a big fan of sodium.  realfoodtrading.com
  


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Hi All I want to report some interesting "stuff".. Last week, i had the family over, so i ended up going off plan. I have basically been off since then, feeling awful. Really miserable. Today, i went right back on, and i feel truly amazing tonight. It is so funny! Unfortunately, my weight did a bounce too, as did my mood. I think this is all really really legit! Im just having a hard time dealing w/ my folks. They like to have us over a lot, and my D takes some real convincing. Like, i told him what I can and cant eat. So, he buys ham hocks and greens, b/c he remembered i like the mustard green (oi). When i declined dinner, he said- oh no, ill wait for you to have it. (oi again). So, i guess i need to give him a list. But, i hate to inundate people b/c of my WOE, do you know what i mean?

Anyhow, tonight i made the BEST Curry chicken dinner! I love how many yummy spices are beneficials.

Hey- are we allowed White rice?

What about Turbindino (sp?) sugar?

I had left over rice, and made a Rice pudding w/ black strap molasses and pineapple. It was really good. I think i found a good ice cream replacement! I know white rice is not soo good, so maybe ill try brown or half-n-half.

What about Ezekial bread and cereal? It says NOT to eat Essene, but no mention of Ezekial- does that make it neutral?  I seem to do well on it.

Thanks all!!


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Hey- are we allowed White rice?

What about Ezekial bread and cereal? It says NOT to eat Essene, but no mention of Ezekial- does that make it neutral?  I seem to do well on it.



I'm not sure why you would want to eat white rice, but I doubt it would be considered good for us.  They take off the good part and leave just the unhealthy part.  Try brown rice instead.  Soak it for several hours or overnight then it cooks faster, and you can store it for a few days.

Ezekial bread has sprouted wheat in it which is listed as a black dot toxin.  I'm guessing this puts the bread in the same category.  I'm having trouble with this.  It will probably be the hardest thing for me to give up.

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I love rice in general, weather white or brown rice! I like white b/c its so fluffy, cooks fast and my DH's favorite (he loves it w/ just salt - he has very bland taste, and is an explorer). I like brown rice too... but when i dont get to make dinner late, and all the brown i have takes a long time to cook. I will try the soaking overnight method to cook it faster, thanks for the tip!

Does anyone know where i can find a list of hunter foods? Is there anything like that online? I need to get my dad a list- but i told him this morning to just get a copy of the book.

He is a hunter (as in hunting, the sport) so i would think for him , his genotype is obvious, right? He is now trying to convince me to "hunt" since its in my nature.
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Does anyone know where i can find a list of hunter foods? Is there anything like that online? I need to get my dad a list- but i told him this morning to just get a copy of the book.



Besides the book, there is http://www.genotypediet.com , which requires a membership. There is a way to get the first week free if you search the boards or look in the back of the book.
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Thanks - i haven't joined the paying site, has anyone? What can you report about it?

I think i have converted a bunch of others to this WOE. Some friends came by and we had a night of measuring, it can be quite a funny experience, lol. They were pretty fascinated, and especially one friends fit the Teacher profile to a T.

Can anyone tell me about Goat cheese? I dont see it (Chvre) listed so it is neutral? I absolutely love it, so i was wondering if i can have it (limited) occasionally.

Also, I bought some Rice spring roll wraps. They are very hard, i wonder what i can do w/ those? I was thinking some kind of lasagna?

Hope everyone is doing well! I am floating back down in my weight, and feeling good. I would say i am between 50-80% compliant on a given day.
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Goat cheese is feta cheese, as far as I know--or is it feta cheese is made from goat milk (which it is!). Maybe the chevre is something different, but I doubt it. Look for feta cheese & see if you can have it!
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O-hunters, O-hunters wherefore art thee...Ah Hither thou art!  I've just about concluded my own hunter status based on intermediate level test charts and have really enjoyed reading the posts in this thread and I wanted to thank everyone for the dynamic input and corroboration and all the things that the forum has come to mean to me over the ..gosh it's been years now, I can even say that!Really thanks for the glide path is the way I'd like to put it.I read the book once through without trying the tests,had some quizzical moments as I looked over the food lists. I think one question may have been answered somewhere else but thought I'd post my own version for certainty: If rice is O.K. why is rice milk not? Is it the stealth ingredients? Or is there something wrong with liquified rice for hunters? I'm reluctantly going to rethink the spelt/rye restriction. The spinach thing is a shame. I was really shocked by the figs report. And apples, I mean apples of all things to get the black spot!Oh and oats too. What happened that made those loose neutral status?To consecrate my hunter devotion I've stopped having my too frequent ritual of denial coffee flavored half-n-half. no problems just a little sleepy for a few days. Not sure of the toxin lag time for that.I'll have to look over the prtions carefully to see if my breakast buffalo burger with onions and broccolli or I guess now kale is going to keep me huntering (I loved that phrase BTW!) with verve or not.
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Hi, There!  ANd, Welcome, too!  Just wanted to send a quick greeting your way--I'm off to bed before my computer turns into well, a compliant pumpkin!  


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My BTD type O shake for breakfast (6 prunes, 2 tblspoons of ground flax seed and pineapple juice) has transformed into my GTD Hunter shake for breakfast (1 banana, 2 tblspoons of ground flax seed, 2 tblspoons of tahini and pineapple juice) and I have to say it's not bad at all  
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Well l'm having a hard time giving up all types of milk like liquids as well so I make homemade rice milk with only basmati rice and water.  I'm sure hoping that this is not a black dot avoid.

The commercial rice milks have lots of avoids in them.

As well, I've discovered DATES!!! Oh my gosh they are so fantastic.  I have to stop myself from eating the entire bag!
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I'm getting acid indigestion from Grapefruit Juice.  Any ideas about this since this is a superfood for Hunters?

Possibly my gut and digestive track is so messed up from years of bad eating that I can't take this for awhile.

I would always have that issue with Seltzer as well.. I would have to open the can to let the bubbles out and then drink it and I still burped and got some tummy upset.

Any clues?


try freshly squeezed...the bottled stuff does the same to me



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try freshly squeezed...the bottled stuff does the same to me



I've been using the Ruby Red Grapefruit juice which someone recommended.  I get  no acid from it.
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The Ruby Red is really good!  I also put some Pink Sea Salt in it--and it's just wonderful that way.

Also wanted to bump this thread up for new Hunters hunting for help!  


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I use half Ruby red grapefruit, half pineapple juice which is also nice.
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Yeah, 50/50 ruby red grapefruit and pineapple is a good combination, sometimes I add a spoonful of Harmonia Green too.


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My heartburn has pretty much disappeared on this WOE- yaaaay! Re; grapefruit juice, ive been buying organic, pure, ruby red brand, and dilute it w/ water.  Speaking of juice, does anyone know why Grapes are an avoid/toxin, but Grape juice is ok? I have been enjoying grape juice diluted w/ seltzer too.. yum.
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If you were a BTDer, how much has your diet changed becoming a Hunter?

For breakfast, I used to eat 3 eggs per day plus a shake made of 6 prunes, 2 tbsp of ground flaxseed and pineapple juice.
I realise the portions for eggs are 7-9 per week so i've compromised and am down to 2 eggs per day. The shake is now made up of 1 banana, 2 tbsp of ground flaxseed, 2 tbsp of tahini and pineapple juice. There is almost the same amount of protein in the 2 tbsp of tahini as there is in an egg so that's ok.

My fruit during the day was apples and bananas; now I've cut out the apples.

I used to snack on figs and walnuts; now it's dates and pepitas.

I still eat beef for around 12 meals a week. I've never been satisfied with poultry but I did have turkey for 4 meals this week so maybe I'll come around eventually.
My vegetables have not changed much. I've cut down on carrots (I find that weird). I've swapped swiss chard for the spinach. I used to grow 6 different types of spinach in my garden and I'm sad to see them go. Sigh.

I can't stick to the beverage portions; just too restrictive. It's midday and I've already had pineapple juice in my shake and 3 cups of decaf green tea and that's almost it for my allowed portion.

As for supplements, I've added the recommended dosage of B5 and folic acid.

That's it. Other than these relatively minor changes, I'm pretty much on the O diet.
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Yes, the Hunter diet is very close to the O diet in most respects. The changes are few and simple. As I had followed the O diet, my changes were primarily choice of breakfast greens, pears replacing plums and roasting a duck once a month. Everything else was even more minor as the neutrals I had been using became superfoods almost without exception. Lucky me!  
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If you were a BTDer, how much has your diet changed becoming a Hunter?


This is an interesting question for me. My changes have been drastic. I was Ovo Vegetarian on the BTD and now have gone completely non-veg. No cooking of meat & fish at home though. I'm following the Hunter diet portions and recommendations and this is how I eat now:

Mon, Wed, Fri: Bfast: ~60gms(handful size) roasted lamb mixed with beneficial spices, onions & ginger+ 1 portion of sweet potato leaves+ a smallportion of wakame sauted in ghee + 2 small squares of flaxseed bread+ cocoa drink with ghee+ green tea. So that's 3 servings of red meat, going by the lower end of recommendations.

Tues,Thurs: Bfast: ~60gms roasted duck mixed as above+ all the of the above. That's 2 servings of poultry for the week.

Mon,Wed, Fri:Lunch:~50gms sardines+ broccoli, kale, with beneficial spices & onions and ginger+ green tea. That's 3 out of 4 servings of fish for the week. I try to get the remaining 1 portion on a Saturday.

Tues, Thurs:Lunch:~ 2eggs scrambled +all of the above veggies & green tea. Thats 4 + 5 eggs(from the flaxseed bread)9 eggs per week.

Dinner M-F: 2 small sqaures of flaxseed bread+ vegetable stew made with all beneficial root veggies, mustard greens & fava beans, spices, onions & ginger. Fava beans is about 1T cooked, per day.

Saturday: Free & easy with mainly beneficial and neutral foods, gravitating more towards vegetarian meals with rice. No black dots though.

Sunday: Positively vegetarian with beneficial & neutral foods for lunch, but dinner is a bit tricky with black dots in the form of carrots & spinach creeping in..not as a main meal but it's there as part of a dish.

Fruit intake: 1 Banana post workout, a portion of any of these Pear/Pineapple/Watermelon for mid morning, and 4 dates for tea time snack (cant's eat more, it's just too much!)

Beverages: Mainly 3L water with lime juice. Cup of green tea each for bfast, lunch and dinner. 1/2 cup grapefruit or grape or pineapple juice to post workout smoothy.

Flaxseed: 1T goes into the post workout smoothie, and the flaxseed bread.

Oil: 5T a day with a combination of ghee & Rice bran oil. Cant remember the portion recommendation. Is this too much..?

Nuts & seeds: Have completely gone off my favourite pumpkin seed & walnuts.

Exercise: Mon, Wed, Fri: 5km run in the mornings. Yoga.
          Tue, Thurs   : 3km run in the mornings+Weights.Yoga
          Saturday     :10km run in the mornings. Yoga.

Fri evenings & Saturdays lots of walking and heavy carrying for my weekly marketing & shopping. No driving involved.

Supplements: Finishing up B-1000 B complex. L Tyrosine(not part of the Hunter protocol but it helps), Rhodiola Rosea( great stuff). Amla Vit C. Was taking Coleus Forskohlin on the BTD but have stopped it now.

Sleep: 7hrs.

I dont know why my weight has shot up from 58kg to 64kg, but all my clothes have become baggy. Could the weight increase be coz of the 5 tablespoons/day of oil/ghee intake? I'm slightly above 5 feet. Another worrying thing is bowel movement. There is no "feeling of wanting to go". Not constipation but...no action. That worries me. And makes my midrif look really big.

Any thoughts..?
          
  



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you may not be used to digesting meat....I had to use betaine hydrochloride to assist my digestion for many months...(had been vegetarian for yrs) but finally my natural O nature kicked in. I'm not saying it directly affects the bowels but that if things are not digesting they will sit there.
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you may not be used to digesting meat....I had to use betaine hydrochloride to assist my digestion for many months...(had been vegetarian for yrs) but finally my natural O nature kicked in. I'm not saying it directly affects the bowels but that if things are not digesting they will sit there.


Thanks jayneeo! Betaine hydrochloride sounds like something out of a chemistry lab though ..kidding.

So good people anyone has any advice and suggestions for me..?


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Accidental Chef, I am absolutely blown away that you have adopted the GTD. To move from ovo-vegetarian to using animal protein is a big move and obviously required a huge leap of faith. I hope it is not long before you notice some benefits.

Your increase in weight could well be due to eating good protein (protein for your type). Perhaps your body is getting toned. I would recommend measuring yourself (waist, hips, thighs, chest, etc) If these measurements aren't increasing then you are not putting on fat but gaining muscle.

As for the nether regions, I've never had a problem. Perhaps your body is adjusting to the new foods and needs time. I don't really know.
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Accidental Chef, I am absolutely blown away that you have adopted the GTD. To move from ovo-vegetarian to using animal protein is a big move and obviously required a huge leap of faith. I hope it is not long before you notice some benefits.

Your increase in weight could well be due to eating good protein (protein for your type). Perhaps your body is getting toned. I would recommend measuring yourself (waist, hips, thighs, chest, etc) If these measurements aren't increasing then you are not putting on fat but gaining muscle.

As for the nether regions, I've never had a problem. Perhaps your body is adjusting to the new foods and needs time. I don't really know.


Yes, I tend to jump right into things instead of doing things gradually. Meat & fish dont interest me culinarily (if there's such a word), and I eat the stuff like medicine. Everything is measured and clinical. Anyhthing vegetarian, now that's another thing...

My clothes have become baggy so that must be a sign. I think if I can get my elimination going like it used to be twice a day, then I'd be most happy.

I stumbled into another thread where people were talking about Chia seed and how that helped. May be I need more bulking agents like good carbs from good grains. Hunters have no diamond grains..so I'm cautious.



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May be I need more bulking agents like good carbs from good grains. Hunters have no diamond grains..so I'm cautious.



Don't be afraid to use the superfood grains, just be aware of the suggested portions/servings. It's all good.
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My clothes have become baggy so that must be a sign. I think if I can get my elimination going like it used to be twice a day, then I'd be most happy.

I stumbled into another thread where people were talking about Chia seed and how that helped. May be I need more bulking agents like good carbs from good grains. Hunters have no diamond grains..so I'm cautious.



I've noticed that fruit 1/2 hour before breakfast and lunch or dinner really helps to keep me regular.
Chia seed really is great for perfect stool form.  The combination of fruit before meals and chia seed with meals is a perfect solution for me.


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Hi there, I just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing!

I also made some good recipes to share. I would love to hear more about what you all are cooking these days!

Last night, I made crepes with vege-herb filling. I used the crepe recipe in CRFYT, but instead of spelt, i used 1/2 whole wheat spelt and 1/2 rice flour and some herbs in the crepe. for the filling- I sauteed up some asparagus, green pepper and peas in garlic herbs olive oil sauce. Sprinkle parmesan cheese in crepe before stuffing, spoon in filling, Rolled them up, sprinkle top w/ more parmesan.. bake 350^ for 10 mins. YUM-O! I will DEF be making those again.

I made saffron rice tonight, w/ great salmon the IL's bought hubby and I (frozen from Horizon foods), it is the best salmon i have ever had! soo good, simply broiled.

I also made my very first souffle! Gluten free, low sugar! and it didnt fall - my sister (chef) would be so proud. I used a simple recipe i found online, for chocolate souffle, and sub. 1/2 rice flour and 1/2 AP flour (it was only 1 T. for 6 servings). And, a tinge of Turbindino sugar, stevia and agave nectar for sweetness. Cooked slightly underdone, So good!

Im slowly getting back on track. I also have been interested in the book: The 3:00 Secret. I lost a lot of weight for my wedding doing something similar, so if i can do this, and the GTD, i should be in good shape.


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all sounds real good!
have you checked the recipe central here?
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm
you can add any recipe you want and simply post the title to the recipe you ve added, for the editing team to take care of it.

are you following the O BT guidelines or the GT hunter, is that what you turned out to be?
you can add that info in your signature if you like.


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Hi there, I just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing!

I also made some good recipes to share. I would love to hear more about what you all are cooking these days!



Hey Nic4Health... you should check out the Hunter recipes thread!
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Ok my right index finger and ring fingers are the same length, so that means I'm a gatherer. If my ring finger were two millemeters longer I would be a hunter. I test really strong as a hunter and not so strong as a gatherer on all other tests. Could I be a hunter with a short ring finger? lol
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You could be a Gatherer who has a number of Hunter-type issues, which would be better addressed with the GT2 diet than the GT1 diet.  
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Where is everyone? OK- i will admit having a hard time sticking w/ things. I had initially done really well, but now am going up and down and on/off as I do with so many WOE. I just have to commit myself and steer way clear of sugar. Low carbing always worked for me, i might give it a shot, but the GTD way, to see if i can kick off some better loss. Does anyone on here have any weight loss tips? I know the diamond foods are good for weight loss, maybe i can just stick to eating those for now. Thats what I did in the beginning and it came off. I hate having to count anything so that is at least easier!! My main thing is i get bored, and like to cook, so I have been using gluten free cookbooks, which call for Tapioca flour, and other things. I have no clue if we can have tapioca flour?! Anyhow, gotta run, and just wanted to check in w/ everyone and exchange some tips Unfortunately, I am also impressionable and people have been telling me that i am crazy to be on this WOE (rolleyes). I have heard some really nasty things. I think i have to keep it to myself, not share w/ anyone
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Hi!  I'm still here---I just don't have tons of time to post.  I'm definitely following the Hunter Diet, and my weight almost effortlessly diminishes.  Thanks for bumping up this thread!



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We hunters... out busy hunting new recipes and other stuff!  I've got a couple good ones to post... but I've been to busy as well!  sigh.

feeling really good on the diet however.  no more binging going on.  Just when I work out too much my fibromyalgia flares and it puts me under.  

sigh.  a strange paradox for a Hunter.  
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I read the whole thread and I have to say Thank you for all the information in this thread I just certified myself as a hunter, just got my GTD book.

I knew I was a hunter, but it was great to be confirmed as a hunter   I am still reading the book, so right now, I am on BTD weaning to a GTD. I am trying to convert my DH to BTD and GTD.. I will need to measure him, he is either a Hunter or a Gatherer.
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great start!


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Does anyone here bother counting cals and how compliant are you with your level of sucess (measured in overall health and weight)?

I made a yummy bananna bread with rice flour, but also Tapioca flour- does anyone know if this is neutral? I know that some types are allowed it, but it doesnt say for us. I do know it is root of the cassava plant, which is toxic for us. ??
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New Recipe Combo:

1 Rhutabaga
1 Sweet Potato
1 Parsnip or Turnip
1 Onion
Ghee
Curry Powder
Coriander
Salt

Brown onion in small amount of ghee.  Peel and slice up all root vegies and add to fry pan with  more ghee.  Add spices and cook until browned.

Delicious-ee-o!

Serve with Applegate Sausage and Eggs.
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Hi everyone,
I am a Hunter (since Jan. 4th) and loving it!  I am new to this message board and I look forward to learning all I can from you.  The best place for me to start is to read this entire thread which I am sure has a wealth of info in it. So I will contribute as I catch up on some of the threads here so if you see me online, but not contributing much, it is because I am learning/reading past threads.  

I am really enjoying the Nonnie Clubhouse also - I suspect I am one, but only sent my test in yesterday.

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Hi everyone,
I am a Hunter (since Jan. 4th) and loving it!  I am new to this message board and I look forward to learning all I can from you.  The best place for me to start is to read this entire thread which I am sure has a wealth of info in it. So I will contribute as I catch up on some of the threads here so if you see me online, but not contributing much, it is because I am learning/reading past threads.  

Tea Rose


Hi Tea Rose... happy to have you out in the forest with us Hunting away!

There is also a great thread Hunter Recipes.  If you go to search and put in Hunter, you'll find all kinds of other info... and try searching for the word 'the last 30 days' and then 'older than 30 days.'

And just some info... I've found on the GTD plan, for Hunters, it does not seem to matter if you are a secretor or not... at least at this stage of the info. in the book.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this.  


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And just some info... I've found on the GTD plan, for Hunters, it does not seem to matter if you are a secretor or not... at least at this stage of the info. in the book.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this.  


Hi funkymuse,
I do seem to remember that while on GTD the secretor status isn't an issue as far as the food goes as when on the BTD. But I find it just so interesting though...especially after reading what some of the non-secretors have to say...I just identify with them so much as far as quirks, etc.  I said somewhere else that I am so happy to find that there are other people that can hear people chewing soft foods, because it puts my nerves on "high alert" .  My husband would have me believe I am the only person on earth who is like this!

So I think my interest isn't so much - how I can modify my diet, because the Hunter diet, fits me to a T (except I can't seem to warm up to Lima Beans yet!) - my interest in finding out is more the bahavioral and health related issues.  Maybe I will know next week!

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I also like fresh escarole;  Does anybody know any other way to eat it?  I like the "spicy" taste to it.  


MyraBee,
I just finished reading this thread and saw that you asked for ways to use escarole.  My favorite way to use escarole is "Beans and Greens".  This was a family recipe that just fits into the Hunter diet - I love that!  

In a large skillet, I heat EV Olive oil and add a couple of chopped garlic cloves and let it cook about a minute.  I add some red pepper flakes to the oil for a bit of heat at this point. I have a huge bunch of escarole leaves, cleaned and chopped and add them into the skillet and use tongs to turn the escarole until wilted down.    Then add in some great northern white beans and some chicken or turkey broth. The amount of broth you add depends on how you want to eat it. I like it as a soup, so add more broth.  You can easily adjust amounts of bean and escarole according to your taste.

I make a Gatherer version for my husband and just do half spinach and half escarole for him and use only a bit of turkey broth as he likes it as side dish with the rest of his meal.

Hunters who want to be using more diamond foods can use fava beans instead of the great northerns.

I sometimes even just cook up the escarole in the EV olive oil with the garlic alone! Plan on using alot of escarole because it wilts way down.

Either way you do it, serve it with a fresh drizzle of EV Olive oil and some good quality salt.

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Hey Hunters... just created a great drink!

Cold Brewed Green Tea and Pineapple Juice!!! Yah!


I am struggling to drink Green tea as it makes me feel nauseas - usually I have tablets. I will have to try it with pineapple juice.

I love you guys and how passionate you all are. Its like coming home.

I am not organised yet or got my fridge or cupboards in order but for brekkie I had some cranberries, dark chocolate and dates and Im glad Im not craving - just thirsty and usually coffee is what I want but Im making an effort to stop drinking it from now on.
Wish me luck.
Does green tea make anyone else feel nauseas?
I also have been taking fenugreek pills which I heard about for weightloss. you can find some great stuff on http://www.earthclinic.com but it depends on what you're looking for.
Hope you are all having a great day and please tell me more of what is happening in your diets and lives, thanks
Love Marie


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I am struggling to drink Green tea as it makes me feel nauseas - usually I have tablets. I will have to try it with pineapple juice.

I love you guys and how passionate you all are. Its like coming home.

I am not organised yet or got my fridge or cupboards in order but for brekkie I had some cranberries, dark chocolate and dates and Im glad Im not craving - just thirsty and usually coffee is what I want but Im making an effort to stop drinking it from now on.
Wish me luck.
Does green tea make anyone else feel nauseas?
I also have been taking fenugreek pills which I heard about for weightloss. you can find some great stuff on http://www.earthclinic.com but it depends on what you're looking for.
Hope you are all having a great day and please tell me more of what is happening in your diets and lives, thanks
Love Marie


Someone did write about green tea making them sick to their tummy... can't remember who.  Hopefully they will chime in!
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fenugreek boosts my immune system!
I add some to my smoothie daily...


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For lunch I had a can of artichokes drizzled with tahini. There was a little bitterness but it was really nice and satisfying. Theres a lot of variations we could think of. maybe add parmesan, ghee, lemon & a spice or two.

Finding lunch on my lunchbreak is the hardest. I ended up gettin a lunchbox, so I could try the tahini with artichokes.
I also got some canned asparagus for tomorrow and some carob licorice,cranberries & crushed walnuts for snacks + some grapeseed oil to try on my skin tonight as recommended by italybound.

I dont feel as destructive or paranoid about food anymore - its more like an adventure and a treat and something to look forward too and not avoid.

Tonight Im thinking about having duck but not sure what with yet.......


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