Hi to all of the new folks checking in here!!

I am definitely losing weight since I changed over to the GTD.  Because I have a "mental  thing" about portion control...well any kind of control  , I am  making sure I eat diamonds and other "super-foods", but not restricting portions at this time.

I want to go over to the GTD site, but because of my "mental thing" I'm waiting until I feel as if I have a good handle on the GTD first.  When BTD was on eDiets I did not find that site to be reliable...hoping this one will be better!  

I'm also dealing with my night eating a little better---I just had my "snack" two hours earlier than usual.  Tonight it was curried walnuts, grapefruit juice, bananna w/ tahini, and a date.

Happy Hunting!  

Myra, do you have a very high metabolic rate? Eating enough "good" starches for dinner usually takes care of snacking later in the evening. For me atleast..

Happy hoping to be Hunter!!
As an aside--A friend & I spent a lot of time discussing the GT on Sunday. Then we were trying to remember the name of all or most of the candidates. Man, I just couldn't think of that obscure congressman from California.
Then after I left her presence I rmembered that common-sounding name!!!  HUNTER!!!!!! I don't think I'll forget it now!! !!!!
The hunter diet is a lot like the O-nonnie diet, so I'm going to try to focus on it until I know for sure. The problem is that it doesn't have many diamonds. It is the easiest of the 3 O diets to stay with for now. I'm sure I'll find out soon.
Chherio,
Mrs "T"    O+  

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Myra, do you have a very high metabolic rate? Eating enough "good" starches for dinner usually takes care of snacking later in the evening. For me atleast..

Thanks so much for the advice, accidental chef!  I'm eating dinner right now--8:00pm and I'm having steak, black-eyed peas w/ garlic, and turnips with crushed red pepper.  I'm using curry powder for a dry dip for my steak.  I'm going to make sure I've drunk enough water, and see if I can pass up my midnight snack...which is really like a meal.  I would have had some greens but the stove was too busy tonight!

UPDATE:  at 11:45 pm I mixed some honey/agave with some cocoa for a snack.  It will be interesting to see how I feel in the morning with this smaller, sweeter snack tonight.

Myra I hope the combo works!

Fellow Hunters, how do you react to temperatures-heat & cold?

I can tolerate "naturally" hot & cold weathers...but find it excruciating to sit in an air conditioned room with the temp set at 20 deg C and below. At the height of summer here in the tropics it's impossible to walk outside in the mornings after 8am..but I'm OK at home without airconditioning as long as there is plenty of ventilation.  

And..(this is from the sleep thread) how many sleeping hours are you happy with? I'm happy & alert and full of beans with 6hrs, and naturally wake up after 6 hrs of sleep. If I sleep longer than that (like the recommended 8-10hrs)I feel sluggish.

What say you?

Good topics!  

Mentally, I "like" nine hours--but usually sleep seven.  It seems like the happier I am the less I want to sleep.

As far as temperature goes--I Have to be cool.  We haven't turned our furnace on this year--and in the summer I Live in the air conditioning...or the air conditioned car.  

The only activity I like is swimming--it keeps me cool!  However, in the winter, the pool is kept at 94 degrees F, and I need it that warm--any cooler and I don't think I could do it.

What activities/exercises do you other Hunters enjoy---or anyone else for that matter!  

Quoted from Mrs T O+

Happy hoping to be Hunter!!  The hunter diet is a lot like the O-nonnie diet, so I'm going to try to focus on it until I know for sure. The problem is that it doesn't have many diamonds. It is the easiest of the 3 O diets to stay with for now. I'm sure I'll find out soon. Cherio, Mrs "T"  O+  

I totally agree the Hunter plan seems to be the easiest of the O's.  I was planning to cry if I was an Explorer!     

For temperatures - I hate the cold & since I love summer, am dismayed at so much A/C everywhere. When I was younger, it was mostly in department stores, not everywhere.
So I try to avoid it & at work, have to wear many layers.
I'd rather have hot weather & dress with shorts & a tank top to feel the air flow & sunshine, etc.
Ah, modern life has so many things that are against nature. It's not just the bad food.
Cheers,
Mrs "T"   O+

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For temperatures - I hate the cold & since I love summer, am dismayed at so much A/C everywhere. When I was younger, it was mostly in department stores, not everywhere.

I had to laugh when I read about your childhood experiences with A/C!  I was brought up in Dallas, and hated our summer trips to Minneapolis--in part due to the absolute lack of Air Conditioning--anywhere!  

I have a very narrow comfort range with temperatures.

I feel best in 80 degree temperatures.  Once it drops below that, I'm looking for my winter coat.  (Yesterday was a real treat having almost 70 degrees in the beginning of January.)

I usually don't like air conditioning but I need it if the temperatures are in the 90's with humidity.  When that happens at home I cool the air to about 80 degrees.  But I find myself turning blue when I'm in most public air conditioned places if in for more than a few minutes. (It feels like they set it to 50 degrees!)  I guess my body just can't regulate  heat very well.  I went for a couple of years of not being able to sweat but things are getting better so if I continue to improve maybe I won't be so sensitive to temperature fluctuations.

I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.

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  Because I have a "mental  thing" about portion control...well any kind of control  , I am  making sure I eat diamonds and other "super-foods", but not restricting portions at this time.

I just received the book and I must admit the portions are "disturbing" to me. I never took much notice of the portions on the BTD so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm surprised that red meat is 3-5 servings per week. So, I guess my 12 servings is excessive!!!
I was also surprised that poultry became a super food and should be up to 4 servings a week. My intake on the BTD was infrequent, maybe once or twice a fortnight. I also found that I always felt hungry after eating chicken.
And now that 40 minutes of exercise daily is recommended, I really don't see how I could stick to the portion sizes.

Another weird one is beverage. 6-8oz servings 2-3 times per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 8oz of pineapple juice in a shake at breakfast. I usually have 4 cups of decaf green tea at work during the day which accounts for the rest of my allowance. So that's it. When I get home in the evening, all I'll be able to drink is water.
Very odd. I actually don't understand the restrictions for beverage. I'm sure a cup of chamomile tea wouldn't tip me over the edge, whatever that edge is.

Also, what is everyone doing for the carbohydrate portion? Up to one and a half cups daily is way more than I eat now.

Does everyone still eat protein for breakfast? On the BTD, I eat 3 eggs every day for brekfast which really sets me up for the day. On GTD, the portion is 7-9 eggs per week.

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I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.

Hi, Cindy!

I'm glad you posted here.  We are all in this together, yet its important to rememebr we are all Individuals too.   Have you followed BTD, either currently or in the past?

One of my personal "clinchers" for Hunter GenoType was my inability to eat many Gatherer foods.  I'm fairly  certain I wouldn't have been so certain about the Hunter id if I hadn't been so successful on Type O nonnie diet--which is a lot like Hunter plan.

Hopefully, Lloyd and some of the others will by here soon and can offer some support to you, as well.

We're going to be just fine!  

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I just received the book and I must admit the portions are "disturbing" to me. I never took much notice of the portions on the BTD so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm surprised that red meat is 3-5 servings per week. So, I guess my 12 servings is excessive!!!
I was also surprised that poultry became a super food and should be up to 4 servings a week. My intake on the BTD was infrequent, maybe once or twice a fortnight. I also found that I always felt hungry after eating chicken.
And now that 40 minutes of exercise daily is recommended, I really don't see how I could stick to the portion sizes.

Another weird one is beverage. 6-8oz servings 2-3 times per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 8oz of pineapple juice in a shake at breakfast. I usually have 4 cups of decaf green tea at work during the day which accounts for the rest of my allowance. So that's it. When I get home in the evening, all I'll be able to drink is water.
Very odd. I actually don't understand the restrictions for beverage. I'm sure a cup of chamomile tea wouldn't tip me over the edge, whatever that edge is.

Also, what is everyone doing for the carbohydrate portion? Up to one and a half cups daily is way more than I eat now.

Does everyone still eat protein for breakfast? On the BTD, I eat 3 eggs every day for brekfast which really sets me up for the day. On GTD, the portion is 7-9 eggs per week.

Thanks for posting!  You raise some really interesting questions.  

One I'd like to address is the beverage "limit".  Actually, I view the portions as a minimum standard--at least in this category.  That means at least 3 of my beverages each day needs to come off of the Hunter super-beverages list. This could be grapefruit juice, rooibos tea and lemon balm tea. I usually just drink juice and no tea, but as soon as I adjust more to some of the GTD changes I will be adding teas as well.

I don't eat many grain carbs, but when I do I follow the superfoods lists.  One way I feel as if I "amp up the good carbs" is using plant carbs more often; black beans, fava beans, etc.  They seem to be more helpful to me than rice, etc.

I also stick to beef pretty much, with lamb when its available.  I don't feel that good when I eat chicken. I eat lots of greens everyday, and no nightshades at all. Lots of garlic/onions/curry powder/red pepper.  Tahini, too.

As far as breakfast goes, I still have protein, either eggs or beef/lamb. I know some others are trying out some new grains.

Hope this helps--please keep posting here; we want to help!

Quoted from cindyt

I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.

Hey cindy, Don was also surprised to wind up a gatherer. By the tables, yes, an O sec female with longer index fingers is always a gatherer. It's entirely possible that the chemo et al has affected your gene expression through the methylation process, and that correction of that expression and undoing the 'gathering' of various toxins is best accomplished by the gatherer program.

I think most of us find that our new diet is something that we naturally gravitate to but it does not have to work that way to be right. Before I started BTD I thought it was right to eat peanuts and drink milk and so on, they tasted good to me and felt right. I hope that you give the GTD a real chance to work, even if it means gradually adjusting over. You also have the option of sticking with 'plain BTD' which is good but not as powerful. If the gatherer diet does not show progress given a decent trial, well, time to reexamine what would be a special case. There is no guarantee the GTD will work for everybody.

Quoted from MyraBee

That sounds good!  How are you doing with no meat at breakfast?

i have meat as leftovers usually when I make a stew or sardines for breakfast

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One I'd like to address is the beverage "limit".  Actually, I view the portions as a minimum standard--at least in this category.  That means at least 3 of my beverages each day needs to come off of the Hunter super-beverages list. This could be grapefruit juice, rooibos tea and lemon balm tea. I usually just drink juice and no tea, but as soon as I adjust more to some of the GTD changes I will be adding teas as well.

That's an interesting take on it but it would be strange that this food category would have different parameters for interpreting portion control.
I really have to presume that Dr. D actually means this to be the limit.
If you look at fish, Dr.D actually specifies " ... at least 4 servings" which implies that minimum standard you talk about.

I never worried about portions on the BTD and the improvements in my health have been nothing short of remarkable but I am left wondering whether I should try out the exact portions that Dr.D has specified for the GTD to see if I reach some form of health nirvana  

One other weird change is viewing cheese as a Super food. I have been so diligent in removing cheese from my diet that I almost hate the smell of it now. Back to the cheese board  

Have any hunters joined the website? Can you post some of the breakfast menu suggestions. I'm interested at the levels of protein. Thanks in advance.

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Have any hunters joined the website? Can you post some of the breakfast menu suggestions. I'm interested at the levels of protein. Thanks in advance.

I have and I do not like the menus. Too low on the protin side for me so ultra low for you

Breakfast tends to be grain, nut (creams) and fruit or some odd egg.

If you did not follow BTD portions why do you want to bother with GTD ones? Actually, perhaps, as you say, you reach nirvana if you do

Best wishes,

Does anyone know if Coconut milk is the same as coconut water?

I have a great protein shake recipe that calls for coconut water....

???

Also I joined the free week and don't care for the menus either.  There are some avoids in some of the recipies.

My breakfast always includes meat or a heavy protein source.  It's the only way I can make it to lunch without cravings or hunger.

Todays breakfast was egg/eggwhite omlet with spinich.  1 hamburger patty and pineapple.

Delicious and satisfying.

Quoted from cindyt

I'm feeling frustrated here.  It seems like nothing counts but ring and index finger lengths.  Although my index fingers are longer, everything else I've tested and the description in the book, comes out Hunter.  The Prop test strip was horribly bitter.  I know from experience that I can't eat many things on the Gatherer list, but the Hunter list fits almost 100%.  Could it be that my gene expressions got changed after chemo or the chemical injury?  I'm thinking about giving up on the GTD, or maybe just selecting what works for me.

Cindy... I thought I was a gatherer as well and surrendered to doing the gatherer diet.  within 5 days I was bloated, gaseous, burping, my joints were totally swollen and I was miserable.  So i carefully remeasured my fingers knowing something was off.  Found out I was wrong about my fingers and I'm totally a Hunter.  So one way is to just try the diet and see!  That will really tell you  more than anything else.  

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Cindy... I thought I was a gatherer as well and surrendered to doing the gatherer diet.  within 5 days I was bloated, gaseous, burping, my joints were totally swollen and I was miserable.  So i carefully remeasured my fingers knowing something was off.  Found out I was wrong about my fingers and I'm totally a Hunter.  So one way is to just try the diet and see!  That will really tell you  more than anything else.  

This is what I plan to do.  The only Gatherer characteristic I have is that my ring fingers and index fingers are so close I get differing results.  All the other stuff shows me to be a Hunter, ectomorph, family history, weak points, etc. etc.  I know that eating Hunter won't harm me, because I've been pretty much doing it even on the BTD, and it really helped me.  Maybe one day Dr. D. will tell us to consider more than just the ring fingers.

cindy, I have the same situation...my fingerlengths are all that's keeping me a gatherer and not a hunter and they are soo soo close...? but the gatherer diet calls to me, so I am going with it.

Hey Hunters... just created a great drink!

Cold Brewed Green Tea and Pineapple Juice!!! Yah!

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Wow, I'm a Hunter! Salmon, green beans, grapefruit, pineapple, chocolate, and cinnamon all go to superbennie!!!  This pleases me to no end.  I will miss my plums, prunes, almond milk, figs, grapes, apples, spinach, and carrots.   This will take some getting used to.

Now maybe I will lose this weight--stop, no maybes this time.  I will lose this weight!   Off to explore the book more....

Hey!  So glad to have you aboard!!!

The spinich thing was weird, huh?!  Oh well, I've discovered that I can do Swiss Chard with a little agave (hard being a super taster - the greens are so bitter!).

BUT we get to have Apricots again after the initial period!  And I love apricots!  AND DATES!!! Yah yah yah!!!