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drgnwng1
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I love Cocoa Nibs. I am hoping they are considered chocolate and not an occasional neutral.I may have to explore adding cocoa powder to some things like Ricotta and cottage cheese  


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Thanks Don...   I didnt see the 15 years
we will wait and see what happends.... she just doesnt really sound like a  gather  

I am not 100% sure about that information since I couldn't find the post to confirm.



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Quoted from Don

I am not 100% sure about that information since I couldn't find the post to confirm.



Ok... maybe I can ask Dr D himself on the new board  Ithink it is important to know


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Chocolate is a Gatherer bennie?  See, I knew it.  I'm some other type trapped in a Gatherer's body!  As Jack Lemmon said in his dying breath in The China Syndrome, "I can feel it!"

Chocolate.    Puh-leeez!  I'm holding out for some REAL food.

Wait until I get my book, I'll find the REAL Gatherer staples, because obviously you pups are too blinded and dazzled by the chocolate to proceed any further!  

edited to add:  I don't care what torture techniques you employ on me, you will NOT get me to ingest chocolate!  Eeeeeeeeew!

If anyone needs me, I and my copy of ER4YT will be at an undisclosed hiding place in the deep forest, never to emerge again!  And I'm taking all my chicken with me!

Gosh, now I know how B's have felt all these years!

Edited to add:  no I don't, I can't cry for B's with their dairy products and their ability to cope with wheat.  Chicken seems like a fair trade for all that.  But for an O non like me?  You are going to come for my chicken?  Stay back!




U ro so very funny Peppytwist  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
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Quoted from Don

I am not 100% sure about that information since I couldn't find the post to confirm.

I didn't find the question or Dr. C's response, but I did find Dr. D's.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-alttreat/m-1197971832/s-25/




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Hello Everyone!  I'm officially with you now.  Thanks to Don for pointing me in the right direction on my measurements, I'm now done re-measuring.

I think GTD will be easier than BTD O-non.  There are some adjustments to make, of course.

Anybody notice that the only green teas that are beneficial are kombucha and kukicha?  

I enjoyed some Nancy's Cottage Cheese last night, as well as some kombucha, and felt a bit more energy afterward, so I'm excited about all these changes.


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Quoted from Melissa_J

Anybody notice that the only green teas that are beneficial are kombucha and kukicha?  


Oh, I read that to mean that green tea is beneficial, including kukicha which is made from the bark and stems of the tea plant.  I notice that for some other types the listing says "Tea, green, kukicha, bancha", which makes it seem like if there is a comma, it is part of a list?  Not sure now...  Anyway, I'm thrilled since kukicha is by far my favourite kind of tea!

I'm not very familiar with kombucha, but I don't think it is a green tea (since it doesn't come from the tea plant, camellia sinensis).  Isn't it made from seaweed or a mushroom?  Will have to track some down...



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Maybe it is supposed to be interpreted as green tea and kukicha.


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yes, both, I think.......kukicha is also called twig tea.
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I *think* kombucha is made with a mushroom. Myself, I'm a yerba mate addict, so quite glad to still have it as a benny.
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Kombucha is cultured green tea, from what I understand.  You can only buy it in a refrigerated bottle.

I too love yerba mate, and have noticed that it gives me more stable/lasting energy than green tea (which I also love).  I have yet to try kukicha, but bought some last night (along with cottage cheese, GF oat flour, and basmati rice.)

I was also happy to see all the beneficial mushrooms, and asparagus!  There seem to be a lot more beneficial vegetables than for O-nons, even though a few of the old beneficials are now avoids or black dots.


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Ah, I have now learned that kombucha is NOT a mushroom, but it looks like one...  Apparently the bacteria cultured in the tea looks kind of like a pancake.

I remember when I was young I watched some talk show one day and they were espousing the miraculous benefits of this tea that you could grow in a closet that had this pancake-like thing on top.  Apparently it cures cancer!  

The name is a bit confusing, because kombu is a type of seaweed and cha is the word for tea in Cantonese.

Yogi Tea makes a nice Green Tea Kombucha that I plan to pick up tomorrow...  They have an AMAZING website, BTW, worth a visit just to admire the creativity...


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Kombucha cah be made with either black or green tea and sweetened with sugar, honey, maple syrup, or ?? . .

My daughter used to make her own, using a starter, green tea and maple sugar (I think any high glycemic sweetener could be used) to feed the culture.  It sat in gallon jars for a couple of weeks, covered with cloth over the opening of the jar.



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I've got Chocolate Kisses listed as a snack for Wed!!!

wow....
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Love this thread!  I'm so glad Don and Lola are here.  For you you guys/gals were part of the backbone of the BTD thread and it's nice to have a couple of the many long timers here in the Gatherer section!

I'm slowly accepting my place in the world as a Gatherer.  I'm an Meso-Ectomorph type and a super taster and I'm tall.  So I also do not fit the other profile aspects.

I do fit the O pos secretor descriptions to the T.

So like I mentioned on one of the threads on the other site... I think your GT is what you are born with like your blood type.  You can't change it, it is what it is and it is the basis of who you are.

The only thing is that I still believe the ER4YT science holds true for my blood type so I can still know that as an "O," Gatherer who is an individual,  for instance, that I need to tweek the GT science to fit me personally.

I hate (I know harsh word), but I do... I cannot stand most of the vegies now on the Gatherer list but there are a couple that were Superbenies for me on the O diet that I like and so I will enjoy those.

I think like in dealing with chronic or constant pain, we learn to adapt to things that arn't good for us sometimes, not even knowing the disease process that is in action due to what we are eating or how we are exercising and so we teach our bodies and minds to believe that we do well on certain things when in reality these things are slowly tearing us down.

I am going to embrace the GT Gatherer thing because it is the latest and greatest science and it's got to be the next best thing for me and my  health.

It certainly doesn't hurt to give this new science a test run to see how one does.  And remember, we all have individual senstivies and allergies - I have an allergy to Tumeric.  And it's supposed to be a superbeni for O's and Gatherers.. but I cannot touch the stuff as it cause me chronic bowel problems.

So listening to your body during this time of acceptance and change is crucial.

Cheers on this New Years Day of 2008!  A new GT beginning!  And chocolate ricotta pudding every other day!!!! YUMMMMMMMM!!!   And eventually beef or bison cabbage rolls!!! YUMMMMMM!!! and eventually an orange!!!! oh boy!!!!
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If you are having a hard time accepting your Gatherer status see Melissa Jones Blog of 1/1/08.  It's excellent!
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Quoted from Don
Maybe it is supposed to be interpreted as green tea and kukicha.


I think you're right, it says "tea, green, kukicha" so I think that means both.

I just tried my kukicha, and it is lovely, reminds me of white tea, just a bit less subtle.

Kate's blog today is good too, I think I went through the same stages of waiting for the book and obsessing about the measurements, etc.  I must get that ricotta cheesecake recipe!  In Italy, in 1998, I had a ricotta/spinach pie that was in a pastry crust, I think that sans crust, that could be a good gatherer food. I never thought I'd see the day!  In a few months, once I get feta back, I used to make a spinach/red pepper/feta quiche, that with the right crust would also be compliant.  

How to do without any rice flour at all?  I relied heavily on sweet rice, but now must move it down to the freezer for later (or only feed those goodies to the kids).

Today I'm making quinoa tortillas (Brighid posted a recipe to recipebase, they're great), and I need to make some flax crackers (I keep reaching for my rice crackers), and some flax bread. http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm?p=1
I was relying to heavily on a not-completely-compliant rice bread, but knew I needed to give it up.  

I think it's so nice to have some foods you can add in later.  I was always kind of stumped once I reached my weight goal and got pretty healthy/energetic on BTD, because I knew I could tolerate a few avoids at that time, but never knew which ones to choose.  It also helps me in my resolve, since I know that if I'm good, I'll be rewarded with new foods.


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I've got Chocolate Kisses listed as a snack for Wed!!!

wow....


But don't they have sugar? Isn't sugar an avoid?
And Chocolate is not the same as Cocoa. And it doesn't say what % chocolate. Besides if I bought a bag to have 6 I would eat the whole bag   best not to have it at all  
Jean


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There are still a few bugs in the gtd website.  Perhaps substitute a more compliant chocolate?  I wish there were a truly compliant one on the market, but melting unsweetened chocolate and adding compliant sweetener is still the only way to go.

I'm happy to see that cashews are a black dot avoid, so I may add them in in a few months...yum. Pistachios are too, but not an option for me as they are one of my true allergies. (may want to double check me, I'm going from memory on those, though I don't think any of us are jumping into any black dot avoids just yet.)


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.

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I was wrong about dates... blame a bug in the recipes that recommend them, they are an avoid with no black dot.
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Melissa,
I bought a compliant deli fritatta yesterday and thought of you because it had no crust at all.  It's a wonderful way to incorporate eggs and vegetables without fighting with the grains.



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let's face it, the GTD site is reaching out to the mainstream...lucky for them...so a few things have a bit of compromise...as in the kisses....I'll not be having any...(but I know how to make a cocoa tea with agave or stevia and a bit of butter that just would not fly with the public.)
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Oh, yeah, funkymuse, you may not like these veggies at first, but my dinner was delicious: "beneficial ratatouille":
1 1/2 zucchini, sliced
half an onion, sliced
half a jalapeno, chopped small
half a fennel bulb, sliced fine
stirfry in olive oil in wok on med. heat until done
sprinkle with lime juice, sea salt and grated cheese (I used manchego...not a bennie)
this made one whole meal or two sides.


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Hi Gatherers,

OK, I signed on for the GTD Website one week free trial about 20 minutes ago and I can't process after I enter my measurments and ID icon and name. It just sits on that page and I tried on both our computers.

What a shame as I was looking forward to perusing the site.
What is the problem, I wonder?
Wish I knew how to holler help to someone who could fix it.
My free week should start when the site actually works.

Time to try again.
Anyone else have this problem?

Cordially,
Margaret


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Here is the GTD site support email address: Support@genotypediet.com.

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I had some problems, but now am on....you should call the help number tomorrow.
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