Quoted from Don

Yes, I am a Gatherer, that strength tests weakly as a gatherer and strong as a hunter.

I'm a Gatherer that strength tests weak for Gatherer, and a bit better for Explorer.  But I'm actually happier with the Gatherer foods lists than Explorer - a bit less exotic, chocolate (my favourite food ever), and higher protein/lower sugars.

Hi Gatherers,  I'm another O, Rh -, nonnie, gatherer.  I danced and found out my legs weren't long enough a long time ago. BUT I've never really had the padded look in fact my wrist test was where the fingers overlaped, my waist to hip is the ideal type and my index and ring fingers were the same lenght.  However I do believe my system is "metabolism-based".  I am willing to change the things that I eat one at a time.  I look back on some of the avoid food that really helped from the BTD diet and find they are not on the new list either. Two avoid foods are a surprise - brown rice and sweet potatoes.  Neither have never really given me any problems.  Is there an improvement that will come about when I do stop these two items

Quoted from Molly

Two avoid foods are a surprise - brown rice and sweet potatoes.  Neither have never really given me any problems.  Is there an improvement that will come about when I do stop these two items

Those are probably both high glycemic foods, see page 135 Gatherer Diet Don'ts.

Hi,  Sweet potato has Glycemic Index around 59 and Yam 51.  Which seem in the same range.   I found an internet site which gives the difference http://members.aol.com/Wstnhouse/diff.htm

don't get too excited about yam....there aren't any in the U.S.....they are from Africa, and maybe other tropical places...

Quoted from jayneeo

don't get too excited about yam....there aren't any in the U.S.....they are from Africa, and maybe other tropical places...

I can get true yams in at least one store I shop at.

How do you know when a yam is a "true" yam?  Eg: I've bought garnet yams in the past - are they yams or sweet potatoes?  

we use the words interchangeably, but shouldn't...they are different. Garnet yams are sweet potatoes, ironically enough....I've not seen yams, true yams.

Those on the "Toxins to limit or Avoid" list with the black dot can be reintroduced after 3-6 months.  So its not like sweet potatoes are out forever or brown rice.  Servings are either weekly or daily, I didn't notice with my first reading of the food listings.  Fruits are at least 3 servings daily which is more than I ever ate(with no bananas and blueberries for 3 to 6 months.)  I never could eat grapefruits and its on the superfood list.

Being as how I have to cook for Explorers and Me (the gatherer) I decided to try the recipe posted at the genotype site for Explorer. The turkey and rice pasta one. I changed out the cilantro for spinach (I can't have cilantro) and skipped the pine nuts because we have nut allergies. I think it was to high a GI for me. My face majorly flushed. I will have to play with it some more. I know I need to wait to add some of these foods until after 6 months but as a quicky meal I was hopoing it would work for all of us.  

Quoted from Mary M.

My daughter (who has an identical profile) wants to desperately be a "hunter" or an "explorer". When she strength tested, she also was strongly an "explorer". But her measurements put her in the "Gatherer" camp. She is re-measuring and probably will be doing so for the rest of the year.

Cordially,
Margaret

Hi  Margaret and hello everyone... this is exactly my position.  I strength test strong as an Explorer and the weakest as a Gatherer but in the Advanced Calculator based on my measurements, I'm a Gatherer.  I am excited about cottage cheese but not excited about the 'EXTREMELY LIMITED' amount of grain type foods we can have a week.  Only 2 - 3 servings a week!  At first I was like - oh boy white rice!  and then I saw how limited it was.  sigh.  I mean as an O Secretor on the old lists, I was having a piece of bread or two per day... compliant of course, and now?!  (sadness).

And about the chocolate... it is in the 'spice' category, not the chocolate cake or candy bar category!  I'm sure if you made a nice oat flour chocolate cake with Stevia you could have your small serving per week, but the rest of the week you  might suffer since again, we only get grain type items on a very limtied basis.

So maybe chocolate rice milk ? Using stevia and dark choc. powder with no additives.  

Quoted from 1323

I am excited about cottage cheese but not excited about the 'EXTREMELY LIMITED' amount of grain type foods we can have a week.  Only 2 - 3 servings a week!  At first I was like - oh boy white rice!  and then I saw how limited it was.  sigh.  I mean as an O Secretor on the old lists, I was having a piece of bread or two per day... compliant of course, and now?!  (sadness).

The carbohydrate frequency for Gatherers is 2-3 times DAILY, not WEEKLY.  What seems to have changed from BTD is that the portions are smaller (about half of what they used to be), and the TYPE of carbs you eat is very important.  So for us Gatherers, it is best to have small servings of low GI carbs.  

Quoted from Whimsical

The carbohydrate frequency for Gatherers is 2-3 times DAILY, not WEEKLY.  What seems to have changed from BTD is that the portions are smaller (about half of what they used to be), and the TYPE of carbs you eat is very important.  So for us Gatherers, it is best to have small servings of low GI carbs.  

Oh wow.. thank God!  Thank God!  I was like... jeeezzz how do I get through the day without a little grain here and there!  

Quoted from 1323

Oh wow.. thank God!  Thank God!  I was like... jeeezzz how do I get through the day without a little grain here and there!  

So, for an O-sec, it is not much of a change in carbs...  LR4YT says up to 1 serving daily (if I remember correctly), but the serving size was 2 slices of bread I think...  Now it is 2-3 servings, but the servings are smaller, like 1 slice.  Doesn't this make so much more sense for a type O - have the same amount, but maybe spread it out more?

As an O-non, I get lots more carbs!  This makes my life a bit easier, since I was previously limited to 3 servings WEEKLY.  And I really like quinoa and rice (just have to be basmati now, which I love!).

Ok.. so is anyone going to sign up for the $5 per week genotype diet program?

I'm already on that website on a free trial.

So who else is thrilled to have eggs as superfoods?  I LOVE eggs and was always eating more than LR4YT advised...

I'm thrilled about this as well.

BUT what about the new 1 tsp 4 times a week on ghee?!  My heart is broken!  I use ghee ALL THE TIME and not just a measly tsp...

what about this?

Also.. why does it say in the Portion Size:

Milk: 6 ounces

when it does not list milk as a food to ingest?  He must mean Goat Milk which has the infamous black dot!  Yes?

I'm assuming cottage cheese would be considered in the cheese catagory here?

My take on this is that he just has these categories, dairy, milk, cheese, and whatever, for each type even though our type doesn't get any milk! So its zero for milk. thats what I think but I could certainly be wrong.

Happy New Year, Fellow Gatherers!

Hi Molly, you are the first other0, Rh-, Nonnie, Gatherer that I have noticed on this site. Hooray! My daughter is also one. Is it just me or is our combination rare on this site? Anyone?

Hi Funkymouse, my daughter and I are getting comfortable with our "Gatherer" status. Actually she insisted on re-measuring everything tonight and has finally given up. It's the cottage cheese that really rings my bell...after no dairy ever for a year.
Full speed ahead....

Cordially,
Margaret

Can the calculator be used on a 13.5 year old girl???? or is she not ready yet ???

I put my daughter info in and it says gather to my HUGE surprise

We are talking about
O rh - , secretor
a very tall girl ( already 1.72) and will grow atleast 5-10 cm more)-  VERY lean and lanky typically ecto...and very low BMI but no eating disorder
her fingers are almost the same length on both hands except that right hands fingers are longer than left hands gingers
Her torso is a bit longer than her legs and her upper leg longer than the lower.
She has absolutely no padding- but was a sumo baby until the age of 2 years or so. BUT NOT FAT- very physically strong ...
Her jaw is almond shaped and she has spade like incisors
and her face especially is very asymmetrical
I havn´t done the prop or the fingerprint test ... but I must say I would never ever have put her in the gather family...
She loves the cheese and chocolate though

Try looking at this web site about Sweet Potato's and Yams.http://www.ncsweetpotatoes.com.....id=89&Itemid=231

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Can the calculator be used on a 13.5 year old girl???? or is she not ready yet ???

I put my daughter info in and it says gather to my HUGE surprise

We are talking about
O rh - , secretor

The absolute best way to determine your GT is to have your blood type, Rh, and secretor status along with your torso, leg and finger length measurements.

If you have those, then the other data doesn't matter.

However, I thought that Dr. C posted that the tables applied at 15. I think Dr. D hopes to provide some tables for younger children sometime.

Quoted from Don

The absolute best way to determine your GT is to have your blood type, Rh, and secretor status along with your torso, leg and finger length measurements.

If you have those, then the other data doesn't matter.

However, I thought that Dr. C posted that the tables applied at 15. I think Dr. D hopes to provide some tables for younger children sometime.

Thanks Don...   I didn´t see the 15 years
we will wait and see what happends.... she just doesn´t really sound like a  gather  

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edited to add:  I don't care what torture techniques you employ on me, you will NOT get me to ingest chocolate!  Eeeeeeeeew!

Wow, PT, I can relate.

Although, I've been meaning to try just cocoa to see if it's any different by itself.  Who knows, might be just as nasty.