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geminisue
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I'm a little concerned about eating dairy as a gatherer.  This morning I had a half a cup with cinnamon sprinkled on it and mixed in.  Within five minutes mucus was running out of my nose like a water faucet for about two minutes.  Why?  Good or Bad.
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Saturday, January 12, 2008, 3:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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You can also get organic unsweetened chocolate powder and for me it's much easier than using the bar.  But if you have time.. go for it.

Also there are other sweetners you could use.  I don't know what is on the Gatherer list... vegi glycerin???
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Veggie glycerine is a Gatherer superfood because in addition to sweetening, it helps to regulate blood sugar, unlike most other sweeteners.

I make a fudge-like chocolate that is OK for Gatherers, mostly superfoods, that can be found here.  Now that I know my Gatherer foods, I am using almond butter rather than tahini and I think I will mix both walnuts and pecans into it.


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Quoted from kipperkid
I just been reading the section on beverages and I have to admit 2-4 times a day worries me - I drink loads more than that, 8 drinks minimum, mostly water   I think that recommendation may be one that goes on hold for the moment......!


Kipper, I don't think the beverages/day includes plain water.  I think it is talking about the number of servings of the listed beverages only.  We still need lots of water!  So no worries there.  

(yes I am hovering in the gatherer thread again... )


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I read the posts on yams somewhere in one of the threads..and it talked about how there aren't any true yams in the US..but is Dr. Dadamo referring to the so called "yams" in the supermarket when he posts them on the superfoods list
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mm, we don't think so.....we think he's referring to true yams, for the sake of those who live in the tropics.
Kipperkid....no cottage cheese won't melt up smooth....it will be fine mixed with a bunch of stuff, but you'll have to try it and see....
And Geminisue, dairy may affect people differently...I am wondering about that one...I love it , but don't know yet.....
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Quoted from Whimsical
Veggie glycerine is a Gatherer superfood because in addition to sweetening, it helps to regulate blood sugar, unlike most other sweeteners.

I make a fudge-like chocolate that is OK for Gatherers, mostly superfoods, that can be found here.  Now that I know my Gatherer foods, I am using almond butter rather than tahini and I think I will mix both walnuts and pecans into it.


Man!  I'm goin' for this!  I think everything is ok for the Hunter in this as well!!! thanks for sharing... yummmy!
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geminisue
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Thanks Jayneeo- I will check it out further another day and see what happens.
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GSue--if you are eating cottage cheese bought from the supermarket, it could be the additives in the cheese that's causing trouble. I made a batch of farmer's cheese with organic 2% milk, lemon juice and a bit of salt, and it didn't bother me at all, whereas storebought cheese makes me stuffy and tired. You might try making your own cheese to see if it still gives you trouble. If you still have problems, then you can back off on dairy and try the other superfoods listed. We're individuals, after all


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don t stop drinking your water!!


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Geminisue - I'm not sure what the medical take is on mucous production; and I definitely don't know what is right for you, but I'd pay attention to additives.

In my case, for whatever reason, I have had excessive mucous production since starting Genotype with almost everything I am eating. I guess my explanation to myself is that mucous is doing its job; it's just removing "toxins."  I'm hoping it will taper off. That is my uneducated guess for me.  For another person, this could be a  reaction that needs a more specialized explanation.

I've had many bad reactions to the Genotype diet - but I'm planning to ride them through.  The other day I broke out in a bright red rash on my face and neck one hour after eating lamb and green beans.  I've been eating lamb since then. I've had other worse reactions - and some better experiences.

I hope you find the answer that is right for you.
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so....do they make a goat cottage cheese????
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I was just wondering how everyone is feeling on the gatherer diet so far? notice any changes? any new favorite foods?
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goat cottage cheese?


might as well try finding goat milk and make your own, avoid free!


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I am not alone in enjoying oatmeal! I put dried cranberries (yeah, I know they have fruit juice and/or sunflower oil... )....dried currants, pecans, ground flaxseeds, sometimes rice bran instead....and of course cinnamon and agave!
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I am not alone in enjoying oatmeal! I put dried cranberries (yeah, I know they have fruit juice and/or sunflower oil... )....dried currants, pecans, ground flaxseeds, sometimes rice bran instead....and of course cinnamon and agave!


YUM  


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He did say that ideally each person has a diet individualized just to him.  He's probably working on it.

Mine had better include sunflower seeds, quinine/tonic water, Maine lobster tail, pumpkin seeds, cheeseburgers, Reubens (omg, I want a Reuben--too bad I still can't taste anything thanks to "Coldzilla" *lol*), French fries with roquefort dressing...okay--I'd better stop the madness right there.  That is my dream genotype.  A genotype that has yet to mutate...except in the darkest hideaways of my mind!

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I was a little bummed out to see pecorino romano and roquefort on the toxin list.  I used them sometimes since they are at least sheep milk based.  Manchego is still there as an option so as well as ricotta.  Ricotta being a whey cheese I could never understand why it wasn't allowed.

I have some idea that I may continue to use some foods that were OK for me on BTD, if it looks like they are now toxins because of the Bs and nonnies in the gatherer clan.

For the most part the gatherer foods are a little easier to find, although ground lamb is not always available.  There was about 2/3 of a pound this weekend, so I mixed it in with ground buffalo and precooked several burgers for meals this week.  I usually crumble it into a big bowl of soup instead of doing the sandwich thing.  

So far as the mucus thing, it's cedar/juniper time here, and I think I have some pretty heavy allergy responses to that going, probably because of my long outdoor walks and airing out the apartment (letting in all the allergens?).  I've been cheating somewhat with dairy anyway, so I don't think I can blame the gatherer changes for that.  I'm still using up toxins like soymilk.  My pantry is overflowing, so I'm trying to thin it down.  If gatherer meant hoarder that would describe me.  I found tropical vruit with a use by date of 2005.  And I keep buying pastas that I never use, and now the kamut is a toxin.


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Quoted from Cheryl_O_Blogger
I was a little bummed out to see pecorino romano and roquefort on the toxin list.  I used them sometimes since they are at least sheep milk based.  Manchego is still there as an option so as well as ricotta.  Ricotta being a whey cheese I could never understand why it wasn't allowed.



I'd kill for some blue cheese right now lol and there is some Stilton in the fridge that I'll have to throw out as it's just begging to be melted on top of a fillet steak  



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I had ricotta yesterday and I was uncomfortable all night. No milk today and I am expecting to sleep much better.


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Quoted from Cheryl_O_Blogger
and now the kamut is a toxin.


c**p...I did not see it under wheat, whole grain...I thought it was a neutral and have been eating a kamut/quinoa pasta.  My legs have been just a burning below the knee and to come down stairs is a real challenge.   Back to the drawing board.  Thanks Cheryl.

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Well provided that all my measurements are Correct, I am a Gatherer, I am at my ideal weight, but that is probably because I have a gluten and dairy sensitivity and have almost complety cut it out of my diet.  I am glad that I can re introduce Oats into my diet, I have always done well on it.  Although i don't do well to eat to much of any kind of grain, so I will continue to keep the portions small.
  My favorite food as a toddler was cottage chees, but I have trouble eating it today, it depends on the brand I guess.  I like buffalo meat.
Consuming vegitable glycerin sounds fishy to me, I guess it's because when used as an ingredient in lotions, it can be drying to some.  But I suppose if it is compatable with my blood type I shouldn't worry about it.
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I had ricotta yesterday and I was uncomfortable all night. No milk today and I am expecting to sleep much better.


I forced myself to eat some cottage cheese the other day. (I never did like the stuff.)  I had gas the next day.  I don't think I can digest dairy, even if I am a gatherer.  

I remeasured my fingers this morning, and I am still a gatherer.  What did I think would change overnight????


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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yup, tried it several times....cottage cheese is not happening here for this O rh-.....I am ok on the manchego......haven't tried ricotta. goat cheese and sheep cheese do well with me.
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Yes I do have dairy issues but figured. I forced them pre BTD and they gave me issues, I gave them up except for half and half for BTD so if I add the ricotta back on the GTD it should work right??? Guess that was wishful thinking.


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