Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The GenoType Diet  ›  gatherers unite!
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 13 Guests

gatherers unite!  This thread currently has 9,633 views. Print Print Thread
14 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 » All Recommend Thread
Mercedes
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 4:19am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Expluntherer... It means I'm just an O
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 262
Gender: Female
Thanks Christine, my memory was that no matter what, if my d2s were longer I'm a gatherer. As mentioned, I'm not too happy about it right now Too many thing I like or have made staples (made staples to be compliant with BTD I might add!!!) are now on my avoid list. I'm really reeling from the no banana bit. My morning smoothie was mango banana strawberry... no more banana??? No more mozzerella? I HATE cottage cheese. No more kamut??? No more sugar???

I'm kinda happy about the turkey thing... I eat turkey bacon, and turkey kulbassa a bit...obviously not organic,so I don't konw if that makes it neutral or avoid simply because of the additives. But now I feel less guilty because it's turkey

But I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE my canola mayo. My mom laughed really hard at me when I said I'm not supposed to have it...

It's odd. BTD was exciting and I adapted to all the change pretty well. GTD has me shaking my head asking if it's worth it...

And swimming? Does nothing for me. I love swimming, but all it ever did was make me a 36D instead of a 34D. Running? Now that slims me down.

Obviously, my measurments make me gatherer, and yes I'm a great problem solver, but there's a LOT of things that are supposed to be typical of gatherers that don't apply to me... I now know how people who are vegetarians feel when told they're O and need meat...
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 25 - 331
jayneeo
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 6:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 6,351
Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
Mercedes, the shock of change is affecting you,.... you may come to love it.
Christine, you lost avocado, I gained it, as a secretor I could never have  it, now I can have it sometmes. I'm happy.
But for the love of all that is good why did we lose red wine????
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 26 - 331
yaeli
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 9:12am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,548
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
Quoted from jayneeo
But for the love of all that is good why did we lose red wine????
The plot thickens!!! No red wine???  If I'm the gatherer that I look and am measured - fingers and legs - and probably am (the book isn't here yet, but it already looks 99%), this will be my foremost sin! Once a week, once a fortnight, once a month even - I'm afraid I can never, never give this one up. And about the bananas, my everyday delight, I can only shut up, the blow is too hard.     So, I'll be quiet and wait patiently for B&N to be so kind and ship already.


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 27 - 331
Casswoman
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 9:24am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
To my astonishment, I am also a Gatherer.  I am more ectomorphic than endomorphic, have longer lower leg than upper legs, and have not had trouble maintaining my weight over the years (with the BTD).  I'm also a super-taster, and I'm 5'10".... and the results are very, very clear that I'm a Gatherer.

Although information is good, I'm none too pleased about some of the food changes!  Chicken, blueberries, cherries, and bananas in particular!  And as happy as I am to have cottage cheese back*, it is small consolation!

In other ways I'm so grateful to have the information - as an O+, I felt bad that I could not do more strenuous exercise like running.  I prefer yoga and swimming and always felt a bit exhausted by running and the like.

I'm sure that I will adapt to the changes over time, and it is my hope that the GTD will explain why I saw vast improvement in my health with ER4YT, but not complete improvement!




* potentially, I'll have to see if it makes my eczema come back like most dairy does
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 28 - 331
yaeli
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 10:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,548
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
Now a new theory has popped in my mind as to why I chose to be vegetarian in the first place: My father grew chickens (for eggs) in our tiny farm, and in the hard times (50's) we had chicken in abundance, so I actually grew on chicken meat. No wonder I had always been so restless (if you saw chickens in cages you know what I mean). In my childhood we could afford very little beef and had it very seldom. Anyway the beef here was of a very poor quality to put it mildly (it still is) and I just disliked it. When I was twenty I "knew" meat was bad for me, but of course there was no way I could figure out that it was the chicken and not meat in general. I thought it was best to discard meat altogether. Voila.  



Revision History (1 edits)
yaeli  -  Sunday, December 30, 2007, 10:01am
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 29 - 331
yaeli
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 11:53am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,548
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
Quoted from yaeli
So, I'll be quiet and wait patiently for B&N to be so kind and ship already.
It's been shipped!   Halleluya... *sigh of relief*     What a joy!..  What a present for sweet sixty Geburtstag!


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 30 - 331
jayneeo
Saturday, December 29, 2007, 5:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 6,351
Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
yael, I can live with everything but the red wine restriction.......yeah, white wine could make up for it but red wine, well, its the blood of the earth.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 31 - 331
Mary M.
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 6:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh - GT1 Hunter
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 124
Gender: Female
Location: USA
Hi Fellow Gatherers,

The book arrived this afternoon and yes, both my daughter and I are "Gatherers". Oh, the joy of certainty! Stepping out in faith that that was our classification, both of us ate a compliant breakfast and neither of us was hungry 7 hours later. Now maybe it's just the newness of the scene...time will tell.

Here's a question: Dr. D. highly recommends an infrared sauna for effective detox and to soothe us. Can anyone recommend a good one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
Also any feedback from anyone who has used one?
Thank you.

Cordially,
Margaret


Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 32 - 331
yaeli
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:55am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,548
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
Quoted from jayneeo
yael, I can live with everything but the red wine restriction.......

red wine, well, its the blood of the earth.
   I agree!!!

Until the book arrives, I'll better    ... and not speculate.




Revision History (1 edits)
yaeli  -  Sunday, December 30, 2007, 10:06am
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 33 - 331
LarryC.
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 11:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh+, Gatherer, Super Taster
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 309
Gender: Male
Location: Crossville, TN
Age: 74
My book has arrived and I am a gather, It is about the same as my Swami has been for the last 6 months, no big change.


Larry C. MIFHI
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 34 - 331
Rochelle
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 12:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
It's been a long time since I contributed to these forums, but this new book has rekindled my interest in BTD/GTD  

I have rather reluctantly discovered that I, too, am a gatherer - kinda wanted to be something more exciting! O+, sec, longer torso than leg, longer upper leg than lower, longer index fingers.

It does make some sense of my "problem areas" with BTD. I am relieved to find that the exercise component is less vigorous - vigorous exercise never really suited me, no matter how hard I tried; although I felt fantastic on the BTD, I didn't lose weight, in fact the only way I could lose weight was to cut out grain completely, which I found virtually impossible. I now realise that on the BTD, I was eating a lot of foods with a high glycemic index, which have been relegated to the toxic list, such as sweet potato, carrots, parsnip, banana (a banana every day!), prunes, raisins. I always felt slightly uncomfortable about eating so much beef - so I'm quite happy that the meat options have opened up a little more, even though I've never tried ostrich and emu!

Should be fun to play with this new way of eating, and look forward to being part of this community again  
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 35 - 331
jayneeo
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 5:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 6,351
Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
OK, I have had halibut, turkey, salmon, and lamb, all this week. I used to never eat fish (once or twice a yr) and same with lamb, but I am going to change that! I really like the fish I made, and the lamb chops my husband grilled! I don't see ostrich or emu on the menu for a while.....
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 36 - 331
Mary M.
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 6:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh - GT1 Hunter
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 124
Gender: Female
Location: USA
Hello Gatherers,

I feel funny on this new diet. This morning I wasn't hungry to speak of. Now after a light breakfast, I don't feel well. It could be the addition of cottage cheese after a year of no diary. My body is in shock.

Steady as she goes.
Any feedback on an infrared sauna...where to buy one and has anyone used one?

Cordially,
Margaret


Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 37 - 331
HarmonyKitty
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 7:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Jersey Girl livin in FL
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 233
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Welcome to my world, I can just see harmonykitty thinking as she reads this post *lol*, aren't you?!  But I mean, no FAIR, I'm an O!  I LIVE on the HFS' curried BLEEPED* walnut chicken salad, the Genotype Diet is gonna yank that away?  Oh, the humanity.

* apple...hey, there's not much in there!


Oh, but if I turn out to be a Nomad, it seems like chicken is allowable????  I don't know if I'm brave enough to try it!  But maybe I'm a gatherer too and we can convince said HFS to come up with a curried TURKEY walnut salad!  


99.8% sure I'm a Nomad.
I think........
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 38 - 331
Victoria
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 7:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,410
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Quoted from Mercedes

It's odd. BTD was exciting and I adapted to all the change pretty well. GTD has me shaking my head asking if it's worth it...


Mercedes,
It can be a confusing transition when you have gotten established in a system that is working for you.  No doubt, the BTD is powerful and healing, and I think you should continue with your current path if you are more comfortable with that approach.

The Genotype diet is just the next evolutionary step in further refining the individualized path.  It is not required that you make a change if you like the results you are getting from your present eating plan.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 39 - 331
Victoria
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 7:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,410
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Quoted from HarmonyKitty


Oh, but if I turn out to be a Nomad, it seems like chicken is allowable????  I don't know if I'm brave enough to try it!  But maybe I'm a gatherer too and we can convince said HFS to come up with a curried TURKEY walnut salad!  


For a nomad, chicken is a black dot food, which is still to be avoided if a person is trying to lose weight or deal with a health problem.  I see it as more of an occasional neutral, and definitely not a staple food.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 40 - 331
HarmonyKitty
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 7:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Jersey Girl livin in FL
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 233
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Quoted from Victoria


For a nomad, chicken is a black dot food, which is still to be avoided if a person is trying to lose weight or deal with a health problem.  I see it as more of an occasional neutral, and definitely not a staple food.


That is good, because I'm very reluctant to try it.  If, in fact, I am a Nomad.


99.8% sure I'm a Nomad.
I think........
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 41 - 331
Victoria
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,410
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Keeping in mind that I'm not a GTD expert at this time!  

I'm still working on getting educated on all the aspects of this exciting new level of a wellness approach.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 42 - 331
Paula 0+
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 8:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
I am thrilled about white wine being preferred on the gatherer list.   I always loved a good sauv blanc, didn't give it up while doing the btd.  I have tried many more reds with the dh, but I just don't love them.  So happy!  Is champagne like white wine?  Assuming it's neutral, for the New Year......
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 43 - 331
jayneeo
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 6,351
Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
right on, Paulam. Go with the bubbly...    (I love a good sauv blanc too)
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 44 - 331
Don
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh-, MN
Sam Dan
Posts: 7,189
Gender: Male
Location: North Alabama
Age: 58
Quoted from Mary M.
Here's a question: Dr. D. highly recommends an infrared sauna for effective detox and to soothe us. Can anyone recommend a good one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
Also any feedback from anyone who has used one?

My concern with recommending the use of infrared saunas is the high amount of EMF exposure from the electric heating elements.


FIFHI; ISTP;
Started BTD 3/2002, with 2 O- secretor teenage sons
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 45 - 331
Whimsical
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

HUNTER Naturopathic Doctor in Toronto
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 1,213
Gender: Female
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 34
Hey Don, do you know your GenoType yet?


MIFHI E-185
Naturopathic Doctor in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 46 - 331
Joan
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer, ISFJ, AKV
Spring: Growth, Peace.
Posts: 36
Gender: Female
Location: Southern Middle Tennessee
Age: 67
Fellow gatherers,

I had just done a major Whole Foods shopping yesterday morning, then received my book in the afternoon.  I sure wouldn't have bought the 5 lb bag of carrots, and would have stocked up on plain oat cakes.  This afternoon I went to see what the local grocery store could provide--no turkey without self basting, no cottage cheese without food starch, guar gum or caraganeen, but they had tilapia, perch, and some dark green celery.  My husband thinks the Gatherer label is just right for me, and he actually is a Teacher.  It is amazing how closely he has come to his plan.  I just stuck all of the chicken in the bottom of the chest freezer, along with the cherries, blueberries and bananas.  Thank goodness grapefruit is good for both of us--we went in on a seven month order with friends.  I guess that we all will be on the lookout for where to find our new beneficials, acting like good gatherers!

Joan


Joan

Married to an A/Teacher, children are grown
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 47 - 331
Whimsical
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

HUNTER Naturopathic Doctor in Toronto
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 1,213
Gender: Female
Location: Toronto, Canada
Age: 34
Lovely!  Chocolate, walnuts, quinoa, flaxseed, and vegetable glycerine are all beneficial!  With butter as neutral, my homemade chocolate is good for me!

OMG, and I can make oatmeal cookies again!  I have a great rolled oat cocoa cookie recipe to bring back.  

Cheese will be interesting.  That was the easiest thing to give up when I started the O diet.  I found a recipe online for a ricotta cheesecake!  If I can make it with rice flour and agave syrup instead of wheat flour and sugar, it looks like a go!  Unbelievable.


MIFHI E-185
Naturopathic Doctor in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 48 - 331
Don
Sunday, December 30, 2007, 9:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh-, MN
Sam Dan
Posts: 7,189
Gender: Male
Location: North Alabama
Age: 58
Quoted from Whimsical
Hey Don, do you know your GenoType yet?

Yes, I am a Gatherer, that strength tests weakly as a gatherer and strong as a hunter.



FIFHI; ISTP;
Started BTD 3/2002, with 2 O- secretor teenage sons
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 49 - 331
14 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 » All Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The GenoType Diet  ›  gatherers unite!

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread