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jayneeo
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gatherers, unite!
so what do you gatherers think bout the new foods? I am very pleased with them, although surprised at a few.....I mean...cottage cheese?????     what th'??? but on the other hand, occasional  avocado, mmmmm! (my dream came true!) No chicken????? for awhile, anyway....????
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too soon for this thread? ok, I'll wait for the gatherers to gather.....
come all ye!
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Gumby
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My hubby is a gatherer.  I am a bit envious of that diamond beside 'chocolate'!  There are lots of differences in the veggies too, which we find interesting...it was our common ground and now we are going to have to change a few things.

So interesting, isn't it?  He does not have the look of a gatherer...a mesomorph for sure...but in other ways I guess it fits.  You guys get spinach too!  He's happy about the odd bit of avocado too.


Embracing my A-ness!    (Ok, that is waaaay better in print than it is out loud!      )

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Paula 0+
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I am pretty sure I am a gatherer.  I am also thinking my hubby is one too, without testing him.
He's a B, I'm an O....this would make our weight loss together so much easier.  I am quite excited right now!  He's a little sceptical.  So I think I will just start following the diet plan and see what happens for us both.  I understand the no chicken if B's can be gatherers....I am happy to have some
cottage cheese now and then, I loved it as a kid.....this is looking interesting.  I decided to join the
genotype site for a while to get started.  Will see if it is worth it, but I think for starting out and recipes it will be.   Wonder if a cookbook will follow?
Also, from my own experience lately, when I eat more fish, I lose more weight.  The gatherer diet is heavier on fish for dinner......think it's going to be the ticket!
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jayneeo
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Cool, Paulam. At least one other person who admits to being a gatherer! We can share recipes.
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Peppermint Twist
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Quoted from jayneeo
gatherers, unite!
so what do you gatherers think bout the new foods? I am very pleased with them, although surprised at a few.....I mean...cottage cheese?????     what th'??? but on the other hand, occasional  avocado, mmmmm! (my dream came true!) No chicken????? for awhile, anyway....????

Cottage cheese?  Gatherers do well on cottage cheese?  How FAB!  I was just thinking that this amazing very chunky and tomato-laden marinara that my HFS makes, which is more like a chunky tomato soup or stew than a marinara, would be great dabbed into a little cottage cheese for a quick breakfast or lunch sometimes...you mean I could go for it?!  That is, IF I'm a Gatherer...which I so am.  I already know I am, just from the two syllables I've seen of book excerpts .

Okay, liking what I'm hearing outta you, post-book-receipt, Jayney:  sunflower seeds = check, occasionally; cottage cheese = check, sounds like it is actually RECOMMENDED (?), avocado = check, but who cares because I'm a nonnie and they were already a go for me.



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Peppermint Twist
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My hubby is a gatherer.  I am a bit envious of that diamond beside 'chocolate'!

Chocolate?     I know it's a crowd pleaser but, come on, give me something **I** can work with!  Chocolate, pfffffft!



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Wait a minute, wait a minute, here.  What is this "no chicken" scenario you all are referring to?  When Jayney said it, I just somehow ignored it *lol* (nothing personal, Jayney, no matter who said it I think I would have decided it didn't compute and thus must be a mistake, and I would have continued on my merry way reading), but then you are mentioning it, too, paulam?  So it was not a typo in Jayney's post, then?  My eyes were not playing tricks on me?  No CHICKEN?

Welcome to my world, I can just see harmonykitty thinking as she reads this post *lol*, aren't you?!  But I mean, no FAIR, I'm an O!  I LIVE on the HFS' curried BLEEPED* walnut chicken salad, the Genotype Diet is gonna yank that away?  Oh, the humanity.

* apple...hey, there's not much in there!


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Maybe you could convince them to make it with turkey also?  I personally never seemed to have a prob with chicken, but avoid it for the family meals if I can use turkey in the recipe.....but we do
eat it sometimes....
Yes the food lists are interesting, sort of different, yet familiar to btd......I think it will come down
to trying it out for a while, see how it goes....chocolate is a bennie!  
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Chocolate is a Gatherer bennie?  See, I knew it.  I'm some other type trapped in a Gatherer's body!  As Jack Lemmon said in his dying breath in The China Syndrome, "I can feel it!"

Chocolate.    Puh-leeez!  I'm holding out for some REAL food.

Wait until I get my book, I'll find the REAL Gatherer staples, because obviously you pups are too blinded and dazzled by the chocolate to proceed any further!  

edited to add:  I don't care what torture techniques you employ on me, you will NOT get me to ingest chocolate!  Eeeeeeeeew!

If anyone needs me, I and my copy of ER4YT will be at an undisclosed hiding place in the deep forest, never to emerge again!  And I'm taking all my chicken with me!

Gosh, now I know how B's have felt all these years!

Edited to add:  no I don't, I can't cry for B's with their dairy products and their ability to cope with wheat.  Chicken seems like a fair trade for all that.  But for an O non like me?  You are going to come for my chicken?  Stay back!


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Mary M.
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Hello Gatherers,

Even if I remeasure my fingers twenty more times it's never going to change my classification as a "Gatherer". If my legs are longer than my torso and my upper leg is longer than my lower leg,and they are, then no matter what my fingers measure, in all catogories, I am a "Gatherer".

Beef (steaks, stews) is a neutral because it is not even mentioned.

So, Peppermint Twist, here are some SUPERbeneficials for Gatherers:

(Sorry, but lists of foods are in violation of copyrights - Mod.)

This may be more than you wanted to read, but it helps bend my mind around this new diet by crunching over the list. There are more foods on the list, these are just the ones that I am concerned about. But I included all the diamonds as far as memory serves.

My DH bought some New York steaks yesterday and I ate some this A.M. but looks like lamb will be the order of the days to come.
Well, off to buy some cottage cheese, the stuff that would have done me in a few days ago....now time to dig in. Of course the frequency charts must be considered.

So "Gatherers Unite" will be our meeting place from now on?

Happy New GTD New Year!

Cordially,
Margaret



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jayneeo
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Right, Margaret! How .....(in the world) did we lose red wine????? The stuff is full of resveratrol (a bennie supp)

but I welcome cottage cheese! And I am overall happy with this new food list.
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Mary M.
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Hi jayneeo,

My daughter mentioned to me (she's very reluctantly, in fact not at all accepting she's a "Gatherer")that just last week she was actually getting used to drinking red wine and was eyeing different labels, thinking what an adventure in wine tasting lay before her when suddenly the thought occured to her that this meant she probably wouldn't be able to drink red wine anymore. And sure enough...
But in 3-6 months, a little white wine!

It's the superbeneficial Lamb that poses a thorn in my side. I have always been a big beef eater.....and now if I eat out, seldom as that is, it'll have to be someplace that serves lamb: patties, oso boco, lamb chops, leg of lamb, and that can be more expensive. But the adjustment will be made, as usual. Turkey burger or that Jamacan Restaurant that serves goat (w/o the sauce) maybe.

It is getting to feel like an adventure just at this moment.
The exercise regime is quite a bit more to my liking: stretching and lengthening exercises with resistance.

Cordially,
Margaret



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Hello fellow Gatherers,

Is anyone out there a Blood Type 0, Rh-, Non-secretor who is also a "Gatherer"?

Can't remember ever seeing an 0, Rh-, Nonnie anywhere on the site.
Is there one?

Cordially,
Margaret


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Hey ladies,

I'm new to the BTD forums, but, like you guys, am kind of scratching my head in regards to things like cottage cheese and chicken.  
Anyway, I was curious what you O Rh negative types were thinking about being gatherers?  I thought for sure I was an explorer...so many chemical sensitivities, I'm tall, super-taster, etc.  All of the "strength testing" points on the explorer list, I was like "Absolutely!" but the ones on gatherer, I was like, "Not really!".

I keep thinking that if I get remeasured by my husband, it'll make a difference...but my ring fingers and leg measurements don't agree.




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Margaret, I'm pretty sure I'm a nonnie, though I haven't been tested.  I'm so prone to yeast and I've always just gone "amen!" to most of the nonnie problems.

I guess I won't know until I get tested...




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well I'm Rh-, but a sec.
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Nope...turns out I'm actually an explorer.  Finger measurements were slightly off.

Have fun, guys!




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Unless my eyes deceive me, gatherers can have chicken, just supposed to lay off it for 3-6 months in the beginning, especially if dealing with health issues. Don't panic, twisty, it's not so bad.


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Thank you for your responses, jayneeo and misspudding.

According to the new Genotype book, it's relatively easy to correctly type yourself when you know your Blood type, Rh status and Secretor status because then all you need to measure is your Torso Length and Upper and Lower Leg Length and finger lengths.

In my case, with a Torso longer than my legs and my Upper leg longer than my Lower leg, I have no other choice than to be a "Gatherer". My finger lengths, no matter what they are, all lead to "gatherer".

My daughter (who has an identical profile) wants to desperately be a "hunter" or an "explorer". When she strenth tested, she also was strongly an "explorer". But her measurements put her in the "Gatherer" camp. She is re-measuring and probably will be doing so for the rest of the year.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Jayneeo, I thought I read that avocado is a "limit or avoid" now?  It is one of the foods I'm in mourning over...
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If my torso is longer than my legs and my lower leg is longer and my D2s are longer, I am a gatherer, right?

I'm Not happy... I've made bananas and kamut and canola oil diet staples. Now they're out. I LOVE beef... now Turkey is better for me than beef. This genotype stuff is CRAZY... Oh, and swimming is good for me? I was swimming for a year with little fitness results, added running to my regime and finally started slimming down.

I barely tested positive on the strength test... not sure what this means yet... (Still don't have the book, but perused half of it in the store...)
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Mercedes, actually, if your legs are longer than your torso, and your upper leg is longer than your lower leg... I think you got it reversed...
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hehe, Christine, you tell me. What I posted is what I am. I'm going with memory as to what it means, but my torso is longer, and my lower leg is longer and my d2s are longer...

I'll laugh if I'm not a gatherer because thats what I spent the time reading after the tests. I knew in advance my d2s are larger, I know my lower leg is longer (confirmed when I got home) I thought my legs would be longer than my torso (in the t-tapp world I'm a combo bordering short torso- but that doesn't take into account neck and head...)

Given what I stated, am I or am I not a gatherer?
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Hi Mercedes, just looked your stats up in the book and it appears you are a gatherer...
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