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| Dr. Natalie Colicci |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 4:10am |
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What I wonder is if the children's GenoType reflect the parent's as the blood type does. Can two Gatherers produce a Hunter? 
Yes, they can produce a Hunter, but they could also produce an Explorer. So, the parent's GT does not necessarily reflect in a child's GT. Example: I am a Teacher; my father is a Warrior and my mother and brother are both Nomads.... |
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ABJoe |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 4:29am |
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I have not got the book yet (due to arrive on 17th January). But I read somewhere that 0-Nonnies can only be explorers or gatherers based on lenght of fingers. On my right hand my index finger is 7 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. On my left hand my index finger is 6.9 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. Does that make me an explorer or a gatherer? I don't have any weight issues (I am 172 cm tall and weigh 57 kg). Can anyone help?
The tables show that a female O(+) Nonnie with your finger measurements is a Gatherer. |
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Curious |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 6:28am |
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Thanks ABJoe, I would not have thought that I was a gatherer, based on the description on the Genotype side. But my index finger is definitely longer than my ring finger. |
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Lola |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 6:49am |
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gosh, if the length difference is obvious, you might be an explorer...... mine are very alike, and that makes me a gatherer. |
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Curious |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 6:54am |
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gosh, if the length difference is obvious, you might be an explorer...... mine are very alike, and that makes me a gatherer.
The difference is 0.5 cm (index 7 cm and ring 6.5 cm on right hand and index 6.9 and ring 6.5 on left hand). If I just look at the fingers they look the same, but the measurement makes them different. Would those 0.5 cm be enough to make me an explorer? The explorer profile would fit me better, although what I have read about the foodlists is not what I like. |
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Lola |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 7:02am |
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.5 cm are over the 1-2 mm range...... have you strength tested and everything? |
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Curious |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 7:11am |
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have you strength tested and everything?
. No, I have not. My book is on its way and - according to Amazon - likely to arrive on 17th. |
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AmyH |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 12:41pm |
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I have not got the book yet (due to arrive on 17th January). But I read somewhere that 0-Nonnies can only be explorers or gatherers based on lenght of fingers. On my right hand my index finger is 7 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. On my left hand my index finger is 6.9 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. Does that make me an explorer or a gatherer? I don't have any weight issues (I am 172 cm tall and weigh 57 kg). Can anyone help?
I'm an O nonnie and I fit everything for a Hunter - strength,personality, body type...yet..I'm a Gatherer. It all came down to my finger length. even if your fingers are the SAME length, the index finger wins out. Luckily knowing your secreter status will make figuring out easier. it now depends on your leg/torso lengths. I have apopted the Gatherer status after fretting I was not a hunter. But to be honest, I really like the food choices and going with it for a while to see how I feel. So far feel Fabulous!  |
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meribelle |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 2:58pm |
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I have not got the book yet (due to arrive on 17th January). But I read somewhere that 0-Nonnies can only be explorers or gatherers based on lenght of fingers.
I don't think this is true. I am an O nonnie and I ended up a Hunter. Now I am really confused! |
| Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again. Blessings, meribelle |
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mikendomsmum |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 5:24pm |
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Yes, they can produce a Hunter, but they could also produce an Explorer. So, the parent's GT does not necessarily reflect in a child's GT.
Example: I am a Teacher; my father is a Warrior and my mother and brother are both Nomads....
Thank you for answering! My husband and I are gatherers, one son is a gatherer and the other is a hunter, tall and thin, just like my father who is probably a hunter. My mother is a gatherer. I'm going to try to figure out what my husbands parents are today. |
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Lloyd |
| Sunday, January 6, 2008, 5:42pm |
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gosh, if the length difference is obvious, you might be an explorer...... mine are very alike, and that makes me a gatherer.
It's not the amount of the difference that determines the GT, it's the direction of the difference. Therefore, both rings longer, both indexes longer, different on each hand. Having indexes longer on both is the same whether it is a 'tie' (tie goes to the index) or a 'blowout' (.5 cm and up). A gatherer does not become an explorer by virtue of the indexes being even longer than other gatherers.  |
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Don |
| Monday, January 7, 2008, 2:53pm |
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I have not got the book yet (due to arrive on 17th January). But I read somewhere that 0-Nonnies can only be explorers or gatherers based on lenght of fingers. On my right hand my index finger is 7 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. On my left hand my index finger is 6.9 cm, my ring finger is 6.5 cm. Does that make me an explorer or a gatherer? I don't have any weight issues (I am 172 cm tall and weigh 57 kg). Can anyone help?
Based on that data you could be a Gatherer or an Explorer. You would be an Explorer if you legs are longer than your torso and your lower leg is longer than your upper leg. For all other combination of those measurements you would be a Gatherer. |
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Don |
| Monday, January 7, 2008, 2:56pm |
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.5 cm are over the 1-2 mm range...... have you strength tested and everything?
Curious doesn't need to strength test to determine her GT because she knows her blood type, Rh, and secretor status. |
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| Ron-A-Non |
| Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 7:58am |
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One of the things I've noticed (or thing I've noticed, if I'm right) about the GTD is that it's a mixture of both embedded genetic programming (strictly DNA) and conditionally-acquired epi-genetic programming (methylation and acetylization).
In this sense, the Genotype Diet seems a lot to me like a blend of both permanent memory (chipset memory, which cannot be removed except by physical destruction) and plastic memory (RAM and hard drive memory, which are re-programmable).
Because of this, my understanding is that the Genotype Diet encompasses the intersection of both the things which are strictly due to DNA (blood type, Rh, secretor status), and the things which are highly determined by pre-natal, epigenetic influence (such as finger and leg length). Thus, the Genotype Diet attempts to comprehend both the largely permanent and the largely alterable, or at least temperable, through diet and other forms of supplementation. And both are transmissible through reproductive inheritance. |
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Don |
| Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 5:59pm |
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I have yet to get the book (we're looking over the weekend to see if it's been released in Australia yet - if not, we'll have to buy it online).
Is there any test-like thing I can do while I'm waiting (impatiently)?!
Look at the GenoType videos on YouTube and starting collecting all the measurements. |
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TJ |
| Thursday, January 10, 2008, 5:06pm |
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It's almost un-Australian not to eat an animal that is part of our national coat-of-arms 
Lol, can't say that about the USA. Can you imagine, "Bald Eagle Pot Pie"? |
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kate4975 |
| Friday, January 11, 2008, 6:35pm |
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If you make it expensive enough, you can guarantee that some rich curious epicureans will be interested.
Officially, I'm sickened by such a suggestion. Unofficially, I have decent access to some eagles, for the right price.  |
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Jenny |
| Friday, January 11, 2008, 8:07pm |
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Mine arrived on Monday. Kangaroo for gatherers is not listed, so this means it would be neutral. However, I don't like kangaroo much, tried it once and it made me feel sick.
Kangaroo is also not listed as either Benef. or Toxic for Warriors too, so I assume it is neutral. However, it is not very appealing to me. Jenny |
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ABJoe |
| Friday, January 11, 2008, 9:17pm |
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I'm tempted to build a website for it and see if it sells lol Nice one
You may get some fish and game investigations and lots of environmentalist hate mail... But hey, add some spice to life! |
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Lola |
| Monday, January 14, 2008, 5:35am |
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meribelle |
| Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:33am |
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One of the things I've noticed (or thing I've noticed, if I'm right) about the GTD is that it's a mixture of both embedded genetic programming (strictly DNA) and conditionally-acquired epi-genetic programming (methylation and acetylization).
In this sense, the Genotype Diet seems a lot to me like a blend of both permanent memory (chipset memory, which cannot be removed except by physical destruction) and plastic memory (RAM and hard drive memory, which are re-programmable).
Because of this, my understanding is that the Genotype Diet encompasses the intersection of both the things which are strictly due to DNA (blood type, Rh, secretor status), and the things which are highly determined by pre-natal, epigenetic influence (such as finger and leg length). Thus, the Genotype Diet attempts to comprehend both the largely permanent and the largely alterable, or at least temperable, through diet and other forms of supplementation. And both are transmissible through reproductive inheritance.
Wow! I like this explanation. I wish I could explain it so well when I am talking to people! |
| Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again. Blessings, meribelle |
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