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Peppermint Twist
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Read the package but be sure not to overcook ostrich.  It is very low in fat and will be rock solid if overcooked.

Very good tip, Vicki, thank you!  I have yet to defrost my ostrich patties, but am becoming increasingly intrigued with each passing day!



P.S.  And I find it such coincidental timing that I first noticed the ostrich patties and bought some just a day or two before learning via y'all that ostrich is a bennie for Gatherers.

My book had better be there today.  I want to be surprised by something, and at this rate, it will all be old hat by the time the thing arrives!!!!

My shockers for today have been:

tomatoes - YAY!  

Kale - omg, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!     

Bananas - see kale

Broccoli - see kale




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wow, CherylO ....its been awhile...(loved your blogs)...pummelo is also called pomelo, a huge grapefruit which probably grows all over P.T.'s neighborhood......(just a guess)
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Quoted from Cheryl_O_Blogger
Anyone know what pumello(sp?) is or what stores carry it?  I'd like to try it first.


Also spelled pomelo.  Big, grapefruit-like citrus fruit, thick peel, drier than grapefruits.  I've only ever had one...it was ok, but I like grapefruit much better.  Of course I may have just had a less than perfect one lol!


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Hey, Dev, just a heads up:  I read in another thread around here somewhere that there is a bug in the on-line calculator and sometimes warriors come up as teachers.  Don realized the bug in the calculator's programmed logic and has alerted the proper pups who will fix it.  You might want to take do the calculator again a bit later, once it has that one issue worked out.  Unless it is already worked out and this is a day late and a dollar short!

No, I don't think it has been fixed yet. I had more email communication with WFM about it this morning.

Also, the problem effects more than the one Warrior/Teacher case where I found it.

At this time I strongly recommend that you use the GT calculator tables in the book to confirm your GT if your ring and index fingers are equal length or close to it.

Also see, Dr. D's post on the finger measuring.


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Hi Cheryl!

Oh, and PT, while Hagen-Daz will not be an addition to our diets, once we can have goat's milk, a black dot, there may be some goat milk ice cream we can find...

Those black dot avoids sit on the horizon beckoning me to keep walking forward.  


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there is a Laloo's goat milk ice cream....
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Hi Cheryl,

Good to see you again
Yaman


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Quoted from Melissa_J
Hi Cheryl!

Oh, and PT, while Hagen-Daz will not be an addition to our diets, once we can have goat's milk, a black dot, there may be some goat milk ice cream we can find...

My HFS has a brand of goat's milk ice cream that is TRULY divine.  However, I did not notice the PRICE (due to them not having it listed on the freezer shelf or package) and it was somewhere between 7 and 8 bucks, baby.  So, that was very effective in keeping me compliant on the BTD!  Too bad all tempting avoids don't cost that much!



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there is a Laloo's goat milk ice cream....

omg, that's the one!  That's the one!  It costs about a zillion dollars, but it is sooooooooooooo lovelisimo!



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Quoted from jayneeo
wow, CherylO ....its been awhile...(loved your blogs)...pummelo is also called pomelo, a huge grapefruit which probably grows all over P.T.'s neighborhood......(just a guess)


My curiosity about the GTD got me back here.  I don't visit many forums, but this is the best one I've ever used.  I'll probably end up subscribing to the GTD site, but I want to be sure I'll have time to visit it before joining.


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omg, that's the one!  That's the one!  It costs about a zillion dollars, but it is sooooooooooooo lovelisimo!



Yes that one is definitely worth it!  Glad to "see" everyone again.


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I freted and re-measured my fingers over and over... I just can't make my ring fingers longer than my index! HAAA. ... I drove my hubby nuts!  Our sex life suffered... I was manic for about 12 hours!  ha....

But now I'm settling in to my sentence! Ha...

I'm finding I like it here in the land of ricotta cheese and chocolate!  ha...



Yes, I too measured my fingers over and over....and over and over....praying the ring finger was even a millimeter longer. Had it been, I'd be a Hunter.

Nope. Gonnna trust Dr. D on this one and join the Gaterers and experience a new journey. Lunch was Cottage Cheese and fresh pinapple. Pretty awesome!


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....praying the ring finger was even a millimeter longer. Had it been, I'd be a Hunter.

Not true, since the measuring tolerance is 2-3 mm.  

For more information I suggest you read Dr. D's post on finger measuring.



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The key is in the consistency of how you measure rather than the expected error. If your technique is consistent from one finger to the other and yields easily repeatable results (therefore suggesting consistent amounts of error) then 1mm is a large enough difference to use.

If you note, the website uses 1mm differentials and applies them as valid.
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I bought a pomelo a couple days ago and tried a sample (love Whole Foods for that) before getting it.  It tastes like a mild orange, not really at all like a grapefruit (which I find very sour).  I haven't cracked mine open yet...


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If you note, the website uses 1mm differentials and applies them as valid.

The GTD site GT calculator has problems with the finger length algorithm and is currently being worked on.



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I just tried a pomelo too, a red one, and I loved it.  To me it tasted like a grapefruit with sugar on it.

I wonder if it does the same thing to detoxification pathways as grapefruit juice? I try to eat grapefruit away from my thyroid med, though I'm not sure that's one of the medicines that it effects anyway.

From what I googled, pumelo probably does act similar to grapefruit, but synthroid is not a medication it has much if any effect on.  So it looks like I can enjoy either one whenever.


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pineapple juice?  why did I type pineapple juice?
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OK, I'm now eating my pomelo and it is pretty darn sour...  Not so much as grapefruit, which I will have to work up to eating, but still sour.  Not bad, but not a banana.


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So if "potato, white with skin" is an avoid, does that mean peeled white potatoes and any other color like red or purple are neutral if not otherwise listed?


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OK, I'm now eating my pomelo and it is pretty darn sour...  Not so much as grapefruit, which I will have to work up to eating, but still sour.  Not bad, but not a banana.



"Not bad, but not a banana!":  Tee heeeEEEE!  Love it.







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So if "potato, white with skin" is an avoid, does that mean peeled white potatoes and any other color like red or purple are neutral if not otherwise listed?

Only Dr. D can answer that question and he won't be answering it on this website.



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Just catching up.  I've been away.  Got my book and tried to do the measurements myself.  I thought I was a Hunter or Gatherer but the measurements seem to indicate Explorer but the profile doesn't fit well and some of the food choices seemed weird to me - whey???? for an O- Secretor???  I did measure myself so maybe really inaccurate?  I need to spend more time with it and try again.
Spent a few days in NH skiing - great conditions.  However, I'm not in great shape.  I planned to take it slow - just a couple of runs the first day.  I felt fine the next morning so I more the second day and I could hardly get out of bed on Sat.  Luckily the weather wasn't great so I took it easy and read a book and a half.  I skiied Sunday for a few hours and then headed on home.
I was so glad to see that the book had arrived but I'm really confused by the results.  
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Jane, since you know your secretor status, go by these things:
torso longer or shorter than legs
upper leg longer or shorter than lower leg
ring fingers longer or shorter than index fingers -
Plug those differences into the advanced chart at the back of the book. The "whether or not" is decided by the bones & secretor status. After that it's just details. Many of us have had trouble with the finger measurements, because they were very close, as are mine. Good luck, and keep the car scraper handy, the temps are gonna bottom out the next 2 nights!
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You're right that if he is a secretor he would be a Teacher.

However, with the extra caffeine data he strength tests more towards Explorer now.

Then again you don't know about the extra molar cusp and taster status which could shift the results either way.

As I said before the secretor test is the definitive/best way to confirm his GT.


Alright, secretor test and GT test kits are ordered. He just always makes things more complicated!



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Alright, secretor test and GT test kits are ordered. He just always makes things more complicated!

You don't need the GT kit if you get the secretor test, unless you just want to know his taster status.



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