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gulfcoastguy
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Well bison, ostrich, emu, caribu, moose, goat, mutton, turkey, and lamb are all beneficials for me now. Though where the heck I can get some of them other than at a zoo is beyond me. I can get goat at the farmers market though it can be a bit pricey and lamb and turkey are easy but moose? Much better selection of cheeses now though goat cheese seems to be a neutral. I do lose tomatos, again, and okra for all intents and purposes just like collard greens.
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Well, maybe, but maybe not.  From what I can gleen thus far, I think I am going to type out straight Gatherer, all the way.


If you don't have your book yet, you can still go on the GenoType website on your free week trial and do the full online calculator, which is the most accurate anyway.  

Personally, I am quite pleased with the Gatherer menu, except for fruit and veggies.  Some of my faves have gone from neutral to superbeneficial (pineapple, raspberries, celery, cranberries, tomatoes) and some bennies stayed (bell peppers, onions, okra, spinach) but we seem to have lost some awesome beneficials to infrequent neutrals (broccoli, kale, mango, banana, blueberries, cherries, avocado).  

In the other food categories, for an O-non it is mostly win as far as I can tell - we get some dairy, more grains, keep all meats (except chicken), eggs are beneficial, CHOCOLATE is beneficial...



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What is probably the greatest change with the GTD, though, and I think it is so easy for us to overlook it, is that there is a much wider range of choice for ALL types.  Albeit some things are occasional only, but you are still free to have them if you are in good health and at a healthy weight.  That makes life so much easier!  There is only a handful of things I like that I absolutely CANNOT have.


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I can't find any indication on it's packaging to say that it is.  So I'll go with a "no."

Thanks, I haven't shopped for any cottage cheese for probably around 6 years. I need to figure out what is and where to find the good stuff.



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Quoted from Don

Thanks, I haven't shopped for any cottage cheese for probably around 6 years. I need to figure out what is and where to find the good stuff.



Well I just got back from the store and Nancy's Organic is the best.  No avoids.  Rich and creamy.

Plus I picked up some Organic Ricotta by Organic Valley.  It does have a small amount of vinegar in it which is sad.  I'll have to keep looking but for now.... do you think some deflect will work when we do end up eating a little avoid here and there?

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Quoted from gulfcoastguy
I can get goat at the farmers market though it can be a bit pricey and lamb and turkey are easy but moose?


You can only get moose if you shoot one yourself (or know someone who will). Since they are not farm-raised, the meat can't be sold commercially. Sometimes I wish my hubby would hunt them. They taste so good but when the adorable spring calves are grazing in my yard, it's a little hard to think of them as dinner.

Guess I'll stick with caribou. I can buy it at the store and they don't live around here.  

Hey, halibut and Alaskan salmon are bennies for Nomads--hizzah! And raspberries! Guess I should really get on tending the wild bushes on my lot.

Still no sugar though. And I've lost tomatoes again. Sniff.


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Does anyone know if Xanthan Gum is the same as Guar Gum?

This Guar Gum is an Avoid and is actually in many supermarket items!
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xanthum gum is a corn derivative, but is different than guar gum.

Vegetable gums are in many many products as a binding or emulsifying agent.
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here's what I'm thinking: xanthan gum isn't on any avoid lists (at least mine) and since the GTD recommends rice milk, maybe its ok to buy a commercial rice milk if it has xanthan gum but not carageenen........... hmmmm? Twould simplify life....
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Quoted from gulfcoastguy
Well bison, ostrich, emu, caribu, moose, goat, mutton, turkey, and lamb are all beneficials for me now. Though where the heck I can get some of them other than at a zoo is beyond me. I can get goat at the farmers market though it can be a bit pricey and lamb and turkey are easy but moose? Much better selection of cheeses now though goat cheese seems to be a neutral. I do lose tomatos, again, and okra for all intents and purposes just like collard greens.


We've got the moose up this way.  Annie get your gun.

Debra



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If you don't have your book yet, you can still go on the GenoType website on your free week trial and do the full online calculator, which is the most accurate anyway.  

Personally, I am quite pleased with the Gatherer menu, except for fruit and veggies.  Some of my faves have gone from neutral to superbeneficial (pineapple, raspberries, celery, cranberries, tomatoes) and some bennies stayed (bell peppers, onions, okra, spinach) but we seem to have lost some awesome beneficials to infrequent neutrals (broccoli, kale, mango, banana, blueberries, cherries, avocado).  

In the other food categories, for an O-non it is mostly win as far as I can tell - we get some dairy, more grains, keep all meats (except chicken), eggs are beneficial, CHOCOLATE is beneficial...



Chicken is a neutral from what I understand.


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Amaranth is good cooked up with  plain soy milk(could try rice I guess),cinnamon and an apple(with skin) Add walnuts and yum.Great breakfast or dessert
You can also make popped amaranth it is tiny and cute and not worth the effort but it does pop.

Cream of buckwheat makes great desserts and fake mashed potatoes.
Groats can be cooked up with plain soy(rice) milk, cinnamon, banana, flaxseeds and walnuts. Again breakfast or dessert.


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Chicken is a neutral from what I understand.

Chicken is a black dot avoid for Gatherers.



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here's what I'm thinking: xanthan gum isn't on any avoid lists (at least mine) and since the GTD recommends rice milk, maybe its ok to buy a commercial rice milk if it has xanthan gum but not carageenen........... hmmmm? Twould simplify life....


It's a bactria made from corn syrup, fed corn to grow. It's pretty much corn, which has traditionally been an O avoid.
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Chicken is a black dot avoid for Gatherers.



A black dot mean you get it back in 3-6 months. In modest amounts!! page 205


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Mitchie, ostrich doesn't taste like chicken. It's more like lean beef, but is its own taste. I love it.


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Ok... rice dream has two oils in it that are total avoids for Gatherers and my local store has no rice milk without avoids.

I cannot make my rice milk, so is there any out there without the bad stuff in it?

I loved the Westsoy Organic Plain Soymilk because there was  nothing in it.

Maybe there is a 'clean' rice milk out there somewhere????
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maybe almond milk is good for us gatherers...oh, I see....a black dot food.
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I wouldn't mind finding a "plain" rice milk! I just look for the ones with the least avoids. Mr. OSuzanna is the primary consumer of that stuff here.


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I googled and found that they have rice and soy milk makers for your home. You can make it the way you like it or need it. Who would have thought.
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Has anyone used the rice milk makers?

and on the other topic... what happens if one eats some of the black dot items now?  Can one use deflect like we used to use it in the other program?

or is this science so different that it's not lectins we are trying to avoid but a certain way our bodies react to the food with the black dots based on our GT?
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Quoted from Whimsical
If you don't have your book yet, you can still go on the GenoType website on your free week trial and do the full online calculator, which is the most accurate anyway.

Either the tables in the book or the online calculator should give you the same results. If not report the difference.

There is shouldn't be any accuracy difference. It is just that the online calculator makes all the calculations and determinations for you, so it may be easier to use for some people.


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Quoted from Don

Either the tables in the book or the online calculator should give you the same results. If not report the difference.

There is shouldn't be any accuracy difference. It is just that the online calculator makes all the calculations and determinations for you, so it may be easier to use for some people.


There seem to be several people around who have had a different result from the online calculator, and I assumed it was because you can fill in ALL your info.  For some GenoTypes, info other than "Basics" is weighted more heavily, which could change one's type...  


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It looks like I'm a gatherer too, with similar measurement issues as some of you have had.  If it's that close, then it must be equal, for that matter maybe my other hand is equal as well.

I was all geared up for the gatherer diet, then started to doubt it based on health issues of a hunter, but I'm glad to stick with what I originally supposed.  I too tried cottage cheese for the first time in ages, and it was nice.  I never noticed before how many additives are in some brands, but I found a simple brand.  I also loved the kombucha I tried, it made me feel more energetic about an hour after drinking it.  I think I'm going to like this!


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Mitchie, ostrich doesn't taste like chicken. It's more like lean beef, but is its own taste. I love it.


OSuzanna, based upon your glowing review I bought a pack of ostrich steaks yesterday.  I was happy to see they were red meat (I do miss my beef something terrible  ) so maybe these will quell my jones.

Does anyone have any suggestions for cooking them?  I have a Foreman grill if that would be a possibility.  Any herbs or spices go well with it? I'm a medium-rare steak girl so can these be cooked on the rare side or should they be cooked to a chicken temperature?



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