The strength tests really don't matter if you use the Advanced tables.  You are a Gatherer.  

Quoted from 1323

Yes but my index fingers are both longer than my ring fingers which would place me in the Gatherer catagory only.  

See Advanced Geno Type Calculator: Table Two

My Torso is longer than my legs
My lower leg is longer and/or equal than my upper leg
My index fingers are longer than my ring fingers.

Are you considered a Gatherer only?  If so, do the strength tests matter at all if you have been catagorized as a gatherer by the Advanced Tables - anyone?

So how come earlier you said you thought you were an Explorer?  I think you said you were going to strength test between Explorer and Gatherer?

Here it is:

Quoted from 1323

Well I measured the leg and found out some vital info.  In the strength testing due to my new leg measurement, I was to test for an Explorer and a Gatherer.  I'm scoring high in the Explorer division.  So I'm going to do the fingerprint test next.

It's so strange cause I'm not an O negative as many explorers are but I have many more of the Explorer physical traits than of the Gatherer.  So for now until I can get my fingerprints tested I'm going with the Explorer.

Plus alot of things in the Gatherer diet offend my tummy.

I was wondering is it my rh - that makes me an explorer   cause when I change other stuff I still come out as explorer the only thing I haven´t added is fingerprints .

Quoted from sluggerbean

The strength tests really don't matter if you use the Advanced tables.  You are a Gatherer.  

The #1 best way to know what GenoType you are is to use the online calculator at GenoType.com.  There you can put in every possible piece of info you know and have it all considered!

Quoted from Whimsical

So how come earlier you said you thought you were an Explorer?  I think you said you were going to strength test between Explorer and Gatherer?

Because I was looking at the Intermediate Calculation Tables that said I should strength test for Gatherer and Explorer.

I'm still confused about it but when I read about the strength test points for a Gatherer and I'm very low... below 5, it says don't worry about it, that basically I'm still a Gatherer but I just don't show gatherer traits very well.  

So there you have it.  

I only really want to pin this down so I can eat the right things!  

If I go by the Intermediate tables and then strength test, I'm an Explorer.  If I go by the Advanced tables, I'm a Gatherer and my strength tests are weak... Dr. Colicci... what do I make of this?

thank you...

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

I was wondering is it my rh - that makes me an explorer   cause when I change other stuff I still come out as explorer the only thing I haven´t added is fingerprints .

Yes... depending on what your other measurements are too.

It seems that the 2 most common categories for B- secretors are explorers and gatherers....

Quoted from 1323

Because I was looking at the Intermediate Calculation Tables that said I should strength test for Gatherer and Explorer.

I'm still confused about it but when I read about the strength test points for a Gatherer and I'm very low... below 5, it says don't worry about it, that basically I'm still a Gatherer but I just don't show gatherer traits very well.  

So there you have it.  

I only really want to pin this down so I can eat the right things!  

If I go by the Intermediate tables and then strength test, I'm an Explorer.  If I go by the Advanced tables, I'm a Gatherer and my strength tests are weak... Dr. Colicci... what do I make of this?

thank you...

Aha...

I am in the same position, I strength tested for both Explorer and Gatherer and was a bit higher for Explorer.  However, the measurements are the most objective and important things, so if they say Gatherer, that is what you are!

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what do I make of this?

I suggest you read the top part of page 95 and ignore the Basic and Intermediate GT calculators and only use the Advanced GT calculator since you know your secretor status. This will give you the best answer.

Quoted from Don

I suggest you read the top part of page 95 and ignore the Basic and Intermediate GT calculators and only use the Advanced GT calculator since you know your secretor status. This will give you the best answer.

Thanks Don... that's what I did but I'm having the most horrid time wrapping my mind around the new food lists and the description of how I'm supposed to look and my nature.  I mean... gosh... 95% of the description of a Gatherer is not me.  

but maybe the point is, is that I have the basic genetic makeup of one and so adhereing to the food groups for Gatherers is the most beneficial to me regardless of whether I look like, act like, or have the dispostion of one or not.  Right?

Also when we measure our top leg length, do we start the tape measure inside the crease or just at where the leg creases...?

I really don't think it's going to make a difference!  But just wondering.

I am another atypical Gatherer - never overweight, ectomorphic, love exercise, etc.  And I know Don is also in great shape and didn't look very round last time I saw him...

However, the food lists ring pretty true with me.  I did great on an O-non diet, even though it was hard at first to cut out most sugars and a lot of grains.  And we get to have lots of protein, which is another thing that I did well with.  Having poured over the food lists today, it actually makes a lot of sense to me from a metabolic point of view!  Why not try it on for size and see how you feel - that is really the best evidence.

Quoted from Whimsical

Why not try it on for size and see how you feel - that is really the best evidence.

That's about all I can do!  I've been obessessing all day! Ha...

Don't think that's a Gatherer trait...

I'm off to cook rice and greens and go buy some cottage cheese!  ha...  There's going to be this huge run on cottage cheese all over the country!  HA....

Quoted from 1323

If I go by the Intermediate tables and then strength test, I'm an Explorer.  If I go by the Advanced tables, I'm a Gatherer and my strength tests are weak... Dr. Colicci... what do I make of this?

If you have the information available to you to use the advanced calculator, this is the one you should be using.  As Dr. D. states in the book, this will help you make the most "sophisticated"
determination of your genotype.  From what I see from the info you posted, this makes you a Gatherer.

As far as the upper leg measurement, you would want to start the measurement from the inside of the crease....

Quoted from 1323

Thanks Don... that's what I did but I'm having the most horrid time wrapping my mind around the new food lists and the description of how I'm supposed to look and my nature.  I mean... gosh... 95% of the description of a Gatherer is not me.  

but maybe the point is, is that I have the basic genetic makeup of one and so adhereing to the food groups for Gatherers is the most beneficial to me regardless of whether I look like, act like, or have the dispostion of one or not.  Right?

As I posted elsewhere I am a Gatherer, but strength test weakly as a Gatherer and strongly as a Hunter. I will follow the Gatherer GT recommendations.

Ignore the description stuff if it doesn't apply to you. I suggest you reread some of the book to get more comfortable with the changes.

Quoted from 1323

Also when we measure our top leg length, do we start the tape measure inside the crease or just at where the leg creases...?

I really don't think it's going to make a difference!  But just wondering.

I don't know what exactly you mean by that, but I know it wouldn't make any difference on me since the difference in my upper and lower leg lengths is several inches.

Have you looked at the video again?

Looks like I'm a nomad.  I have the white lines, and ten, count 'em, TEN, loops firngerprints!  Only my index fingers have radial loops.  I also have  the longer rings fingers on both hands, and I scored 25 on the nomad strength test, without even knowing my taster status!  (I took all of them for fun, regardless of blood type, and none of the others except hunter were more than 11, and hunter was 19.)  The major variations for me are longer torso than legs, and ectomorph build.  Assuming my B type is correct, there's no doubt about it.

I am sad to see that I lost spelt, milk, and cottage cheese but picking up several harder cheeses that I missed (cheddar, provolone, parmessan) sorta makes up for it.

My copy finally showed up yesterday afternoon.  For once, I'm impressed with the USPS.

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As far as the upper leg measurement, you would want to start the measurement from the inside of the crease....

I found this particularly tricky, too, since the skin crease at the hip flexor runs diagonally: close to the outside of the hip gives a longer measure than toward the inner thigh.  Also, about the ridge/indentation above your kneecap, I assume this just means just above the top edge of the patella?

I just bought my  Geno Type Diet book today at Chapters !!!!!!
I can't wait to get down tonight and do some reading ... I look so forward to it ...
looks like I can be one of the three ...
The Gatherer
The Explorer
or
The Nomad !!!  

Quoted from TJ

I found this particularly tricky, too, since the skin crease at the hip flexor runs diagonally: close to the outside of the hip gives a longer measure than toward the inner thigh.  Also, about the ridge/indentation above your kneecap, I assume this just means just above the top edge of the patella?

Measure from the center of the diagonal crease.  As far as the knee, yes this means just above the top edge of the patella...

I keep reading this everyday since I got my book. I'm an 0- Hunter with a bazillion white lines in my finger prints. I also have a serious history of digestive issues which is why I started the ER diet maybe 8 years ago. I just want to know if anyone else found the same thing with white lines?? I'm officially wheat free now.

I've been reading a lot about finger measurements and the difficulty in taking them. I'm a finish carpenter for a living. I pulled from my tool bags a sliding bevel square. It's a sliding square with a ruler in metric or inches. I measured my ring fingers first, set the square then put my index up to it. Ring was longer. You can do this for free at your local Home Depot or Lowes.

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anyone else found the same thing with white lines?

yes!

Quoted from Whimsical

According to the advanced tables in the back of the book, no matter what your measurements, it appears that if you are an O+ secretor, you are either a Gatherer or a Hunter.

Bear with me folks, I haven't got the book yet. But if my ring finger is a good 4mm longer than the index finger would that alone determine that I'm a hunter? I'm Rh positive.

Thanks!

Quoted from accidental_chef

Bear with me folks, I haven't got the book yet. But if my ring finger is a good 4mm longer than the index finger would that alone determine that I'm a hunter? I'm Rh positive.

Thanks!

Hi accidental_chef,

There are some more measurements that you would need to do to determine your GT. One is to measure your total height and then to determine your leg length to arrive at the ratio of Torso Length to Leg Length. Then measure your Upper and Lower leg length. Now you would be set to go to the Advanced Test and find out your classification.

You can go to
               http://www.youtube.com
and type in dadamo and see the videos that describe how to do these measurements. Afterwards you could post them and someone with the book could help you.

Cordially,
Margaret

Quoted from Mary M.

Hi accidental_chef,

There are some more measurements that you would need to do to determine your GT. One is to measure your total height and then to determine your leg length to arrive at the ratio of Torso Length to Leg Length. Then measure your Upper and Lower leg length. Now you would be set to go to the Advanced Test and find out your classification.

You can go to
               http://www.youtube.com
and type in dadamo and see the videos that describe how to do these measurements. Afterwards you could post them and someone with the book could help you.

Cordially,
Margaret

Thanks Margaret! I did all of those too by watching the videos 50 thousand times !

Height:153cm (seem to have shrunk from 157cm 10 years ago!)
Torso length: 76cm
Leg length:77cm

Knee to ankle:38cm
Hip to knee: 36cm

As for my wrist circumferance: my index finger overlaps with the thumb by about 2cm.

Anyone kind enough, please let me know which category I fall into...and thanks again!!!!

ac, according to the tables, you would be a Hunter.

2 things: I'm a Hunter. No surprise there but where Spinich was a beneficial for me on the BTD, it's toxic for the Hunter, as is all green leaf lettuces. So what's a girl to do who LOVES salads?

Secondly, how can I add Hunter to my Aviator?

Thanks, and heres to a Happy New Year starting on this new Geno journey for all of us!

Amy