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Mrs T O+
Monday, January 21, 2008, 2:42am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hey, I'm a good map reader & an tired of hearing that women are bad at math!  Men can't remember simple numbers like anniversaries, but we women can! Hee Hee!
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This may be tmi, but I often wonder if the reason we women are able to keep track of dates better, because we have a regular occurence every month so it's almost like we have something to guage things by. I mean, I can tell you the date I last had my nails done, saw a certain friend, was at the mall, saw a client, etc. etc., without ever checking my datebook...

But I will say I'm terrible at math and hate it. And I can read a map, but give me a compass and I can't for whatever reason ever get an accurate bearing.
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I feel like a nube asking all these measuring questions, sorry..

When you look at my friend's hands, her ring fingers are obviously longer than her index, which makes her a hunter.. and she fits almost ALL of the strength tests for hunters.

Problem is, when I get out the ruler, as shown on the videos/instructions, because of the webbing b/n her fingers, it measures clearly that her index fingers are longer.  And makes her a gatherer... which I really don't think she is.  

Any advice?


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You can't go by looks alone due to the curve of the palm. You should go by the measurements. Just be absolutely certain that you are putting consistent pressure on the webbing. One poster suggested making a color copy of each hand and measuring from that. I strength tested almost equally for Hunter and Nomad but, as a B, there's no way I could be a Hunter so the strength-testing is more anecdotal than anything. Others (I think Lloyd?) have also indicated that they strength test stronger for a different type than their measurements indicate.


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Friday, January 25, 2008, 1:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Choose a consistent 'starting place'. The suggested way is to measure from the crease, which will give a consistent result.
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My ring fingers look longer also, until I measure them.  I was very strong for hunter and gatherer, slightly stronger for hunter, but definite positive (15+) on both.  How does she score on gatherer strength testing?  If it's clear upon measuring, then the strength testing doesn't matter, though it is interesting.  Make sure her hand is relaxed, not purposefully fanning the fingers out, when you measure, that way the webbing shouldn't be an issue.

The gatherer diet is definitely working out for me.  You couldn't convince me to be a hunter if you tried! Some of the gatherers certainly look more like hunters.  I'm not quite one of them, as I have some baby weight to lose, but I'm certainly not a stereotypical gatherer.  


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I thought you were supposed to keep the fingers extended all the way and tense so the webbing would be stretched tight and not matter- as opposed to being relaxed and malleable...
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Here is a thing on fingers I came across.

Fingers and talent

Article is marked USA Today though I noticed it on Yahoo.





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Quoted from kate4975
Just be absolutely certain that you are putting consistent pressure on the webbing. One poster suggested making a color copy of each hand and measuring from that.


If it's important that you put consistent pressure on the webbing, you can't photocopy and measure. I did it both ways and to be truthful, I'm still confused. I think I'm a Hunter, but I'm not sure. And I agree, it shouldn't be this hard. I was so frustrated yesterday, because I came up w/ different measurements over and over again. Including from the ones that my friend did.  How much importance does THIS test play in which type you are?

Quoted from Lloyd
The suggested way is to measure from the crease, which will give a consistent result.


What is considered the crease? From the video, it looks like they are measuring the way I measured, yet I keep getting all these different measurements and I guess it's from the different ways I'm holding my hand.  Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

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I thought you were supposed to keep the fingers extended all the way and tense so the webbing would be stretched tight and not matter- as opposed to being relaxed and malleable...


So, if you are supposed to measure w/ the webbing tight, then you wouldn't be pushing down to a solid spot w/ the ruler, you would start where the webbing is? Right? But which way is right?



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If it is that hard, the index finger is longer. Dr. D indicates that when the ring finger is longer it is obvious. If fingers are close enough in length that you need to keep remeasuring, you should consider the index finger to be longer when determining a genotype.



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Dr. D [/url]indicates that when the ring finger is longer it is obvious.


My ring finger is longer, it's just that my measurements on each finger will be different if I re-measure. I guess I'm just being too picky .........thanks.



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My ring finger is longer, it's just that my measurements on each finger will be different if I re-measure. I guess I'm just being too picky .........thanks.


As long as your ring finger is consistently longer, that's all that matters, whether it's be 1 mm or 5. I also got slightly different measurements each time I measured but my D4 was always longer--it's the proportion that matters, not the actual number.

I didn't try the photocopying myself but if you do it with your fingers just slightly spread and start from where the webbing on the copy starts, that should work. It should be equally tense between both fingers as long as the spacing is equal. I also measured from the bottom "crease", just to put my mind at ease because I too had some struggles with how close the measurements were sometimes. By the bottom crease I mean, when you are looking at your palm, measure from the crease that indicates where your finger bends.



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How do you decide which Genotype you are when fingers on both hands are equal in length? My torso is 34" and my lower  leg is 15" upper leg 14" combined 29" - I am a confused Gatherer at the moment - is the the true Genotype for me?
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Hi speedy,

If your index fingers are equal in length to those of ring fingers in both hands, then you are a Gatherer.

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Thanks so much Yaman - there has been much debate over this! now I can finaly give up the idea of being a Hunter and get on with being
a Gatherer - still clearing out all the foods at the moment then a visit to the daughter and THEN the start of the 3 - 6 months - can't wait! Best wishes to all others and good luck with the journey
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Wait! Aren't the leg lengths the total leg lengths, not the addition of the 2 sections. There should be a few more inches there. Did you measure as the book said?
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Have looked at this again - and again - and again! I find subtracting my torso length of 34" from my standing height of 5Ft 6" or 66" is  32" which is still lower than the torso length of 34" so is this still a Gatherer? - I understand it is - thanks for picking up on that though Mrs T - Best  Wishes to all
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I had a more clear result when I placed my hands on a flat surface (table). I also filed my nails on both hands, even though they were already short to begin with. This seemed to help: placing something with a firm straight line to it (a pin box in my case) against the tip of the finger bisecting the ruler, or you could use a second ruler, to help focus your eyes, otherwise it is hard to tell exactly where the tip ends. We also used a popsicle stick and drew marks on it with a thin tipped felt pen, and measured those. Much easier.
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