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Friday, July 18, 2014, 5:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ok, due to a dreadful relapse into grain eating, I am starting a grain free thread again. (started one in 2010! Did great for a couple years….)
Soooo….whatdya have for breakfast? I'll be working on my former but now forgotten flax waffle recipe.
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I do ok with coffee and have never been great on big breakfasts, so I often just have 2 scoops of chia seeds in a cup of coffee, especially if I am late up or on my way to work...
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I do ok with coffee and have never been great on big breakfasts, so I often just have 2 scoops of chia seeds in a cup of coffee, especially if I am late up or on my way to work...


Ooh, that sounds intriguing! Do you drink it or need a spoon?


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I finished up my rice yesterday. I've not had breakfast yet because it's slowing down my system big time, so tea and lime water for me this morning to start - and a dose of stinging nettles and elderberry for our moldy weather. Curious that Lola would mention Genoma Security at the same time   my lungs are sore after having rice and breathing in mold-on-the-wind!

My best Explorer breakfast is an egg and a piece of fruit if fruit is around, or at least a veggie. I also do well with  egg and red meat or egg and herring,  but not very well with poultry or other types of fish. Emulsion and iron content seem to be key.

The only thing I will allow myself from now on if I want a treat is wild rice (which is not even in the rice family.)Wild rice "never done me wrong".

It's all about how plant proteins interact with our bodies from different species of seeds and grains.


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OK…here we go!   I had yerba mate'  with my good old flax waffle for breakfast. I needed to focus on and make that to keep me from toasting some gluten free bread which we have in the freezer.

Looked at Lola's suggested supplement…will peruse the supplements more later.

Possum…that may be the most unique breakfast I've heard yet!
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Jayneeo - yep - that's me (unique) lol
Drea I just add it to the coffee and drink it once they are softened... Might require a spoon to eat it with, if you leave the coffee too long?!
I have at times had chia seeds in weak creamy coffee as dessert/bedtime snack and will add a tad more and leave it longer to eat it with a spoon...
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I had my "weaning from coffee" carob/chicory + coffee cup.

I'm down to grains about twice a week, per my son's diet (he's on strict SCD so no grains for him). I have lost a significant amount of weight, but I've had too much red wine this week, so I think I might have stalled/slowed.

I'm struggling with everything addictive right now. Sheesh. Maybe because I'm not eating as many grains or carbs. Hmmm...


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Addiction is a pain in the behind for most of us O's eh Misspudding?! Having decided to post re grain free, what do I do but go and eat fish and chips last night!!!
We have our daughter and her little boy with us for 3 months and as she has no car we took her to the Dr for an appointment... Left in a hurry and I missed lunch and then she requested fish and chips for an early dinner (since she was heading to work soon after she got back)
Wasn't going to have any (and asked them not to order for me) but they smelled and tasted so good, I gave in!!! (Plus the store was extra generous with servings, so even after we'd eaten our fill, there is still enough for leftovers) Yet to survey the damage
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Quoted from jayneeo
Ok, due to a dreadful relapse into grain eating, I am starting a grain free thread again. (started one in 2010! Did great for a couple years….)
Soooo….whatdya have for breakfast? I'll be working on my former but now forgotten flax waffle recipe.


OK jayneeo--set aside the Grindstone bread for now.

I have drastically cut back on my grain/carbs--but still have a little of our favorite bread once or twice a week.  Naturally--that's all I want when I get up in the morning--bread (GF) or oat bran cereal...

But I had my celery, kale, parsley, lemon and pineapple in the vitamix instead.  Sometimes I switch out blueberries or apple for the pineapple. But I keep the fruit portion to a minimum.  Sugar of any kind--you know the drill.  To this I add all the green goodnesses--Harmonia, Live Cell, ARA, matcha and flax oil.  Gotta have a little healthy oil with each meal.  At least that's what my ND doc told me.

And jayneeo--are you willing to share your flax waffle recipe?  I would love to have that.  I guess flax does not qualify as a grain?  I know it is technically a seed--but a grain-like seed.





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Addiction is a pain in the behind for most of us O's eh Misspudding?! Having decided to post re grain free, what do I do but go and eat fish and chips last night!!!


Yes! I am such an addict! Coffee is the worst! I did do a few years of therapy with a very good shrink. Learned CBT and figured out how to work around a lot of cravings. Ultimately, I think I really need to get back to running. Walking is great, but I don't get my heart rate up like I should.

My ultimate cheat food is fish and chips. It is my absolute favorite. I blame the fact that 3/4 of my ancestors were Irish/Scottish or Scandanavian. I could care less about pizza, bagels, etc.


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Awright…we seem to agree. Grain is pretty addictive! (gonna miss that best bread in the world, Grindstone Bakery!)
Susan, the flax waffle as recreated today:
1/4 c. flax meal (I buy it ground)
2 eggs
1/4 -1/2 tsp. baking powder
1 T. tapioca flour…but could be almond or whatever (gonna try with none tomorrow)
1 T. evoo
several drops stevia

possum-really? coffee as bedtime snack??? lol
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Yeah, Jayneeo - coffee at night, but only super weak and creamy lol
Sorry to mention coffee, misspudding - didn't realise till later that you were trying to give it up!
We haven't had fish and chips, like for ever (or any other takeouts either) so it could also be my Scottish ancentory too, re that particular cheat?!
I didn't have too many chips and the fish was very fat, with a not very thick batter and I weighed myself today and best news of all, (after over a week of steadily stalling or gaining up to 1/4lb here and there, since our daughter arrived a week and a half ago), I have lost nearly 1/2lb!!
That is also despite eating almost an entire packet of caramel rice crackers and 2 squares of chocolate (because I had already exceeded my carbs and was bummed out about that)
Hope everyone else is doing ok?

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well, today was good….no grain, no sugar.  But, I had several (!) glasses of my husbands rose', with family, over dinner. Which was roast chicken, wild salmon, sweet potatoes, green salad.
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Never tried "rose with family" lol


















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Ha ha…try it! ...my son and my husband make wine together so we have many wines "with family"

OK, flax waffle again…didn't use baking powder…not missed.
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Yesterday I made it through day 1--no grains.  Yay for me.  I was 'funked out' for sure, but still managed to get out for my walk.

Ate a little more cheese than I should have--and three teaspoons of almond butter.  But these are beneficials for me for heaven's sake and I have to eat something, right.  No carbs so I really needed the fat--or thought I did.   My favorite part of my Teacher GT is all my beneficial cheeses.

Historically when I have gone off carbs I cannot sleep at night.  But I slept pretty well last night.  As long as I can sleep this grain-free may just be doable.

Thanks Averno for the encouragement/understanding.

And jayneeo--will try the flax seed waffle this weekend--no bp.
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well, heaven knows I have sleep issues, but I trust that my sweet potato or other carb will serve the same purpose as grain….(.hope!)

You lucky teacher! cheeses!
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Relapse yesterday because of all things....some kind of unhealthy solution they inject into rotisserie chickens.....could be corn syrup/wheat proteins in it they are not disclosing??? At any rate the chicken tasted terrible after a few bites, the uneliminated rice was still causing me constipation, and all led to a binge/vomit later. Rice was completely eliminated the same evening, but led to malapsorption of carrots and peas this morning.

I ordered lunch for "everyone else' at work because it was my treat from selling $4,500 worth of opera seats - we were waiting 30 minutes and I wound up running to the vending machine as blood sugar started plummeting.....got 'tato chips   because I knew my restaurant salad wouldn't include any carbs, and I hadn't stowed any compliant ones at the work 'fridge. Ate all of my supplements with the chips. I'm still using barley grass in the morning and cal d glucarate in the afternoons.

Avoiding excess fats after 4pm is coming easy now.

But I can't afford to use the potato crutch tomorrow. I'll have to grab taco bell pinto beans if I'm in a hurry. If I don't the poisons in more 'tatoes will build up in my liver and affect my whole outlook.


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Seraffa, ugh. Sorry to hear. I had...a donut. I haven't had one in years. But I've been craving it. So underwhelming. Sometimes I had to do stupid stuff to remain otherwise compliant...

Don't beat yourself up. One day at a time...


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Seraffa, ugh. Sorry to hear. I had...a donut. I haven't had one in years. But I've been craving it. So underwhelming. Sometimes I had to do stupid stuff to remain otherwise compliant...

Don't beat yourself up. One day at a time...


I actually have some big hunks of dried-up Taro in the fridge; they need to be soaked cos a carving knife can't even penetrate them. But they are my neutral and probably I should be alternating days between neutral starch and beneficial starch! I found on another thread with Chloe that all beneficial starches all the time did not lead to a smooth road.

What about the donut was it that attracted you to it? Brown, crispy sweet and soggy? or was it the sugar?

Today is one of those food demos with a wheat item. Grr. I get so worn out in the store with crowds and meaningless things people spend money on in their carts, and a limited variety of expensive food, and 15 minutes for lunch. I definitely WILL make this a Taco bell drive-thru bean day! I want to get to the point where I can pick and choose the items I promote. Next week is better - it's Whole 5 fruit and veggie juice in the health foods section.


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Day 3…it's working so far….last night we went to our friends' house for dinner and lo and behold they served no grain! Just a fluke, they served a cannelini bean salad instead of a grain. It was super good. With lamb. yummy. (too much wine, tho)
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Stop wining Jayneeo lol Just kidding - glad it is going well!!!
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Seraffa, I had been visualizing a particular donut with a full caf latte for at least a week. That never happens!

Jayneeo, cannellini bean salad sounds really good! Wonder what was in it?


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the beans had a kind of pesto dressing, with yogurt, mint, parsley, lemon, and evoo as well as ground pistachios!
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Yum!


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the beans had a kind of pesto dressing, with yogurt, mint, parsley, lemon, and evoo as well as ground pistachios!


Oh--that sounds yum.

I'm halfway through day#3.  So far so good.  Just need to stay busy so I'm not constantly thinking about food/grains.

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oh,possum…just got it…stop wining! (took awhile... yeah, you get the picture…lotta wine…but not everyday…..(I skip wed…..naw!)

Lovin' my flax waffle. the thing fills you up! It doesn't require the tapioca starch or baking powder at all!
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Great grain-free recipe for some lemon muffins you all might enjoy. They taste like little pound cakes. Bonus is no coconut! We use ghee and use half the honey (make up the rest of the moisture with some water...I think I made it with no added water the first time, and this time I did 1/2 cup extra). I've also made these with 1/4-1/2 cup of mushed bananas and my son loves them (I don't care for them, though...too much banana!). Also, we didn't do poppy seeds.

http://comfybelly.com/2011/05/lemon-poppy-seed-muffins-using-almond-flour/#.U816hoBdVa0

The whole comfybelly website is fantastic for us O's! Lots of grain free and SCD-diet recipes (grain and starch free).


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Thanks missp.  Just printed off the muffin recipe.  Looks like a winner.

jayneeo, I believe you on the flax waffle.  Will let you know once I've tried it.  Right now I'm still having my green veggie concoctions in the vitamix for breakfast.  Will probably do the flax waffle (pancake) for lunch--soon.
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Yeah, they almost (almost) remind me of Twinkies. Haha. But I haven't had a Twinkie in a very, very long time, so who the heck knows?!


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misspudding, they sound delicious!
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Try them, Jayneeo!


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I'm scared to, but yes, one day I will need a dessert and will make them!
I have drifted a bit from my focus on grain free, had a rice tortilla….ok, moving back into the grain free lane….
I know it's good for me….I feel it.
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Well-- another relapse, but 2 things learned:

stone root (which would probably take away all my mold allergy attacks) was nowhere to be found in Houston. That was a day of relapse because I had rice the day before, still in my system - which would set off the histamine when mold busts out into the air.

The other day I had my lentils with wild rice: a water grass not related to rice at all. Mold came in late around 10 pm (got into the AC at work, was on the air when I was waiting for my bus) - and I relapsed again. Itching eyes, lymph nodes around face feeling "full and tingly" and inner ears hurting. Which made me go home and eat avoids.

I can't eat wild rice or any kind of grass family ANYMORE   I have to toss the delicious lentils I made if I want to be well.


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Incompatible food mix now tossed out. Good thing too; I don't want anything interfering with my health while I'm moving away from the toxic person I live with.   Pinto beans safely stowed in the fridge at work.....


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I wonder if O Gatherer's struggle more with food addictions than others?  I'm not downplaying anyone's struggle, it's ALL hard, but our bodies want to be fat for the famine years...

Anyway, for the past three months I've been in and out of what I would consider a health crisis and it's predominately due to eating grains. You can read more in my fresh start thread.

I'm actually fearful that I'm not going to get this under control.  I've been fighting my battle with grains (and to a lessor degree, dairy) my entire life and I've never been totally successful in the long term.  But I've gotten through one day yesterday and I already feel so much better, so today is a new day and a new fresh start for me.  


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I wonder if O Gatherer's struggle more with food addictions than others?  I'm actually fearful that I'm not going to get this under control.  


You can, but it's not going to be thru books other people have written about method, etc. etc. because each individual has a unique Genetic Destiny. What's the other % of you besides Gatherer? Have you SWAMI-ed?


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yes, gatherers have issues with weight…and also, grains, esp. wheat, have an opiate-like effect on them….ie, addiction. I have some neurotransmitter issues that affect my sleep (insomnia) and I believe it makes me want to eat carbs and grains for that serotonin hit.
My weight is up a couple of pounds since eating toast for a couple days….(cravings got to me) and getting it down again is so hard. But down is just a jumping off place to losing the 25-30 lbs I need to lose. (and I'm short so that is a lot)
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Yes.  I Swami.  I'm 52% GT2 with a Reactor type.  All of my calculator points and strength tests are Gatherer.


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Yes.  I Swami.  I'm 52% GT2 with a Reactor type.  All of my calculator points and strength tests are Gatherer.


you never got to know what % explorer or % hunter didn't strength test out?
My point is -- if you know your other components, stop SCARING yourself by constantly thinking you are "nothing but Gatherer." It won't create anything but doom and gloom. I bet when you see the letter "O" in your mind and think of yourself, you see yourself as nothing but a capital O inflating like a balloon........STOP


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Sunday, July 27, 2014, 6:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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gatherer is a perfectly good type…yes, it is thrifty, but all types have their good points and bad points.


I ate at friends' and did rather well….we will see when I weigh tomorrow.
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Actually, being Gatherer doesn't scare me.  It makes sense.  I've dieted my entire life, but was never able to stay as thin as I wanted for myself:  Gatherer.  When I eat outside of the GTD, I'm always, always hungry: Gatherer.  Losing weight is very difficult for me: Gatherer.  My body type is endomorphic-mesomorph: Gatherer.

Obviously, there are other types in me.  I'm very, very tall with long, long legs and arms, which is not gatherer.  I'm heavy-boned with lots of muscle, which also is not Gatherer.

BUT

Being Gatherer does help to explain the struggles I've had all of my life with weight and food.

My fear is this inability I have to stick to any way of eating long term.  It's not lack of will power - that's clear.  I don't know what it is, and I don't know if I'll ever come to a point where food isn't the enemy, as well as the healer.  Grains are the problem, and, as I've said, to a lesser extent, dairy.

I haven't given up, but I don't have a lot of faith in long-term success.


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the scale said: you didn't do so well!
OK, it must been the wine…(more than one glass…not saying how much more!)
I knew I was pounding down that lovely cool rose'….it was a hot day….
I'll do better today!
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Hi jayneeo--yes, it's been hot...but looking at the weather in the rest of the country, we're pretty spoiled.

I too have a heck of a time with anything neurotransmitter related.  And sleep has been a (sad) joke the last 15 years of my life.  I've tried it all--tryptophan, GABA, melatonin and others, but nothing works for more than one or two nights.

What has been working for me, remarkably, is Montmorency tart cherry juice.  I think I read about it in a dadamo newsletter.  I'm getting organic concentrate from Eden Foods online.  I make my membrosia morning cocktail with it and then have a small glass in the evening.  It's been working for me for over a month now.  Not saying I still don't have an occasional bad night, but all and all I am getting the best rest I've had in 15 years.

Just wanted to share that with you.
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Feeling like I will go off the white potatoes starting tomorrow morning, after my mense is over. It has helped to slow down the cleanse and brought me no PMS. It's hard to imagine my exercise routine, but I think it will come as soon as I am moved out of here. There is so much subliminal "I can't" just living with my mother that it has backed up into my brain into all the crevices.......once I am in my new living space I will also try to keep the mental carrot in front of my nose if I see unhealthy people around my domicile. It's just that I can't have them in the same household with me every day.

I deserve this!!


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I've tried it all--tryptophan, GABA, melatonin and others, but nothing works for more than one or two nights.


Susan, just curious... how was your reaction to the melatonin? On two separate occasions, I tried using it but had to stop after a few days because of feeling terribly foggy. And not much better sleep, either. I've often wondered why some people swear by it, while others have such awful hangovers from it. Wondering if it's in the genes?



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Hi Averno--I'm writing this while enjoying one of jayneeo's flax waffles.  Yum. Crazy, isn't it, that an AB has to go grain-free.  A delightful break from my usual green breakfast.

I was taking a very high dose melatonin called Oncotonin for over a year.  It is a whopping 10mgs.  It did not help me sleep and very well could have been contributing to a brain fog.  It was prescribed to me by my ND when I was in breast cancer treatment.  Not 100% sure why I was taking it.  Between all the standard cancer treatment drugs/procedures and all the complementary supplements I was taking I was in a foggy state for sure.

Without being able to describe in detail the logic of drinking tart cherry juice I know it did have something to do with melatonin, but obviously from a food rather than a pill.

Because of our similarities with O's--the inability to clear adrenaline from our systems efficiently, I think we may share some neurological traits with them.  I'm seeing many common threads between myself and O's here on the forum.
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hm, yes, there seem to be some similarities between AB and O…how strange!
Susan, I have the worst sleep problems….I will try cherry juice…what the hey! I'll try anything!

DH and I went out to dinner and had gluten free pasta dishes…just because we could! They were so  good! However, they were not grain free. It was a splurge and we had so much fun, I'm just gonna have to jump back on the wagon! No use even beating myself up about it, cuz it was such a great time.
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Hi j

Here's to a good time!--with grains.

Bear in mind--it must be the tart, not sweet, cherries.  

It would be so great if it worked for you as it has for me.  
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Cherries naturally have melatonin in them. I think it's pretty neat that it's working for you, susanC!

When I briefly took melatonin, I found the smallest pill size (dose) that I could, and the first night, I took one pill. Major hangover feeling the next day. Next time, took a half. Same thing, not as bad. Worked down to less than 1/4 of a pill. I felt ridiculous cutting the pill up. But...success! I slept sooo well.

I learned my problem is I have a delayed response to falling asleep. So once I do finally fall asleep completely, I need my 8 hours from that point. Maybe it's 30 minutes, maybe it's 1.5 hours...but it takes my mind that much time to "shut down". I think it's because I resemble the Scandinavian part of my ancestry (Danish, I'm a natural blonde). So I think I'm much, much more sensitive to sunlight and artificial light than a lot of people. Our modern life with all of the artificial light just makes me nuts. My hubby is mostly Italian, and he has no problems at all falling asleep and getting less than 8 hours. *sigh*

Getting back to the main topic, I have been on a roll lately with cooking. Been making all kinds of gourmet-ish grain free dinners. My poor hubby who loves his grains (but he's still an O) has been complaining that "I go to bed hungry most nights". Ha! I told him to eat more of what I make.


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I'm trying to stay grain free today…so far, so good.
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Yesterday was grain-free for me.  And I had trouble getting to sleep. But did eventually.

Today grain-free until dinner when I had about half a cup of rice penne and pesto mixed in with green peas along with my little lamb loin chop.  Peas/lamb a genoharmonic for me.
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those could be good too!
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After looking at that, I would try bean-and-banana panacakes with white types of beans!

In the absence of Stone Root, when mold and grass pollen are at their highest, I'm doing well on Orgeon Grape from the antifungal protocols! And successfully staying grain free that way! Gimme my peas beans sweet potatoes and tapioca.


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I.....WILL.....NOT.....eat that bag of oat bran leftover in the kitchen! All my starches in the house are gone.....I burnt my tuber dinner by mistake.....I would rather suffer food martyrdom with cups full of soymilk and more handfuls of frozen veggies than DECEIVE myself into thinking neutral, yummy oat bran will not trigger me!

Get thee behind me, satan-oat-bran
And I will awake with a clear head and happy disposition.
Be ye scattered to the 4 winds tomorrow under the trees for the wildlife to eat.....


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