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Lin
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I have noticed I am sometimes okay with quinoa and other times not.  Found there has been studies on quinoa & Gluten.
http://glutendoctors.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-quinoa-always-gluten-free.html

An excerpt:
Of the 15 quinoa cultivars tested, 4 had measurable concentrations of toxic epitopes, but they were below the maximum permitted for a gluten-free food. In other words, the 20 parts per million (ppm) threshold of gluten that by definition allows a food to be deemed ‘gluten-free’, was not exceeded.
However, two cultivars, Ayacuchana and Pasankalla, did stimulate the immune system to react in a way that is comparable to a gluten-containing food.
They recommend you find out the cultivar of the quinoa you are buying two avoid the two that make the immune react. If anyone has already explored this issue and has recommendations on what brands of quinoa are safe please let us know.
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try the overnight soak in acidulated water


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I've been reading more articles and found a more recent study.
They do indicate further study is needed to test quinoa for celiacs.
The most recent study below was done on 19 celiac, for 6 weeks. eating just under 2 ounces a day. Results were positive.  

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140121092743.htm
The clinical data suggests that daily consumption of quinoa (50 grams) can be safely tolerated by celiac patients," said Dr. Zevallos. "Median values for all the patients' blood tests remained within normal ranges, and triglycerides and both low and high density lipoproteins decreased. We also found a positive trend towards improved small intestine morphology, particular a mild hypocholesterolemic (very low cholesterol) effect. It's important to note that further studies are needed to determine the long-term effects of quinoa consumptions in people with celiac disease."

The study tracked nineteen celiac patients as they consumed 50 grams of quinoa every day for six weeks as part of their gluten-free diet. Participants were free to choose the cooking method for the quinoa. Dr. Zevallos and researchers evaluated diet, serology and gastrointerestinal parameters, as well are detailed histological assessments of ten of the patients before and after consuming quinoa. Full blood count, liver, and renal profile were used to follow the health status of all the patients. Iron, vitamin B12, serum folate and lipid profile were also used to determine any effects of quinoa on the patients' gluten-free diet.


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Lola,
Thanks, I was just reading another site for Gluten issues that recommended same as you said.
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Lin - I seem to be fine with all but the red quinoa. A friend gave me some red quinoa a few years ago and I had such violent cramps. I know that several celiac organizations are concerned about quinoa for celiacs. I finally after a few years had the original quinoa that first became available and I did fine with it.  
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Good to know, Lin!
Thanks for bringing it to our attention!


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Dianne,
That's interesting and useful to note.  I had just bought black quinoa and I'm not sure if it was that or something else that caused my intestines to rumble.  Do you buy a particular brand?

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I do not have celiac disease and as far as I know am not even gluten sensitive.  I do not eat regular wheat, but for other reasons.

However, the past two times I've had (white) quinoa for a meal I wound up with a bellyache about an hour afterwards. The quinoa was with snails one time and made into long-cooked porridge the second time.  

I don't know why this particular "faux grain" bothers me when others do not, but I have found that if I take one or two bromelain capsules when I eat quinoa I can digest it much better with no bellyache.

I've also been having problems digesting pumpkin seeds lately and never did in the past.   Nothing else has really changed in my food intake except for more meat protein prescribed in my SWAMI compared to the standard ER nonnie diet I followed before.  


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I do not have celiac disease and as far as I know am not even gluten sensitive.  I do not eat regular wheat, but for other reasons.

However, the past two times I've had (white) quinoa for a meal I wound up with a bellyache about an hour afterwards. The quinoa was with snails one time and made into long-cooked porridge the second time.  

I don't know why this particular "faux grain" bothers me when others do not, but I have found that if I take one or two bromelain capsules when I eat quinoa I can digest it much better with no bellyache.

I've also been having problems digesting pumpkin seeds lately and never did in the past.   Nothing else has really changed in my food intake except for more meat protein prescribed in my SWAMI compared to the standard ER nonnie diet I followed before.  


yes yes, pumpkin seeds! i agree. lately i felt some weird "stuff"...i don't know what but i'm a kinda work in progress with them, i want to be sure so i wait a week and i'll try again


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I find it doesn't really need the acid water just a soak in filtered water is enough to help.

although i do rinse it many times and often let it sprout a bit.


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Quoted from Lin
Dianne,
That's interesting and useful to note.  I had just bought black quinoa and I'm not sure if it was that or something else that caused my intestines to rumble.  Do you buy a particular brand?

Cajun,
Glad you find it of interest.

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Inari is the brand that I purchase. Never had any problems with it. I am surprised to see how much quinoa has gone up in price and that  it supposedly is becoming scarce. I also don't like the fact that often, when foods from other countries are imported, the natives of those countries don't get to consume them and that these foods have been their staples. That has always concerned me.
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Interesting!  Quinoa can give me digestive woes, but I assumed it contains a lot of fiber and thus was maybe a good kinda woe.  However, it could be more "grain-like" than we think (it is allegedly not really a grain but a seed).  That said, I usually have no prob with gluten, as I can consume 100% rye toast with impunity, for example.  It is the wheat lectin that is highly inflammatory to every system in my bod.  Quinoa was "The It Girl" in foodie circles for a few years and now I guess we are coming back down to earth and realizing there is more to learn about this food with many wondrous properties.  It may have some non-wondrous props as well.


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I too have some issues with quinoa sometimes...generally gluten grains certainly do not like me, but occasionally I can eat white spelt bread that I bake. Although I soak quinoa overnight and let it sprout a bit, it can still bloat me. This is a little puzzling as it is a 'Super' for me, so I am relieved that others also have some difficulties too and not just my imagination!

Yes, it has rocketed in price too recently..especially 'organic'


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Thanks for all the comments, it is a relief to hear I am not alone with the Quinoa difficulty.

Dianne, I agree with your comment  re foods that have become popular with the result the natives of those countries don't get to consume them.  

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I find it doesn't really need the acid water just a soak in filtered water is enough to help.

although i do rinse it many times and often let it sprout a bit.


love how quinoa sprouts so quickly  
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Thanks for the info Lin!!
Only time I ever tried quinoa, I didn't know to soak it?! Loved the way it totally filled me up - completely forgot about eating anything else for the rest of the day!! Who knows maybe it was from the bloating, but it didn't feel like it?!
However I noticed it caused the exact same skin break out, which is the classic way my body responds to most other foods/substances I react to?!
Have since learned re the need for soaking (due to the saponin content) but have been too scared to try again...
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I have tried all types of quinoa, have decided to not eat it for now, due to the high amount of starches and it now appears my body can't use cooked starches - just settles as fat and I feel very tired, even after rice, so will try and combine GT and paleo; yesterday was a good day, breakfast around 7:30am, lunch around 11:30 and my digestive system seem much stronger, my energy higher, and no headaches or other aches/pains. lunch was chicken maryland, with cooked veggies, and stir-fried veggies, with a little fruit.
With a weak pancreas, it takes the load off, as the system now just needs to digest fish (or other proteins), etc with the vegetables, which follows good combining principles.
I know quinoa is high in nutrients and popular with those avoiding gluten, but I just don't think my own body/system absorbs/extracts these nutrients, and I wish to see pancreas getting stronger, and my cells getting the most important nutrients ie protein, minerals from the veggies, some nuts, and healthy fats (with smaller amounts of fruits). Will still avoid all grains and seeds used as grains too, for now, and see how I progress.
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Interesting that you had a visible reaction.  I'm feeling a bit squeamish about trying quinoa again also.

Aussielady,
I wonder if quinoa's high nutrients also factor in to it being hard to digest.
Your approach to take load off weak pancrease makes sense.

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thanks, Lin.  I am finally learning what foods my cells need, and the ones that I should avoid have terrible effects if I eat only a little, such as commercial chocolate containing sugar and soy(lecithin), and possibly some palm oil or canola oil.
for now, I focus mainly on fish/chicken/veggies/green herb/ginger/ghee/sesame seed/tahini in small amount/walnuts/eggs/olive oil, a few other things and will continue to be patient as I expect to see my health improving more and more, so long as I stay disciplined and avoid the wrong types of foods & remain positive. Plus I have been exercising more, esp in sun outdoors.
the fruits also have a weakening effect, so I stick with lemons, limes, grapefruit, green skinned apple, some berries - small amounts only.
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Aussielady,
Yes it is the discipline.
Exercise and sun definitely help me a lot to.
Like you I find I have to be careful with fruit.
I find lemon/lime, apples, more so green skinned, papaya and sometimes a few berries, pineapple work best for me.  
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