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Possum
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Saw this article on FB and was staggered to see the list, as I react to all of these!!! 19 Foods That Cross-React With Gluten - Eat Local Grown
eatlocalgrown.com/.../11785-19-foods-that-cross-react-with-gluten.html‎

    Amaranth
    Buckwheat
    Chocolate
    Coffee
    Corn
    Dairy ie Milk and Cheese (Alpha-Casein, Beta-Casein, Casomorphin, Butyrophilin, Whey Protein)
    Egg
    Hemp
    Millet
    Oats
    Polish wheat
    Potato
    Rice
    Sesame
    Sorghum
    Soy
    Tapioca
    Teff
    Yeast
Noticed another article on the same subject also lists rye and barely too?!
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What does it mean to "cross react"?


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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In essence it means that your body can react in the same way as it would to gluten...

Definition: "Cross-reactivity is the ability of the immune system to recognize similarities between different allergens, such that allergic antibodies produced against one allergen will also react against another, similar allergen."

Examples:
"There is a significant amount of cross-reactivity among different shellfish; a person who is allergic to one type of shellfish, such as shrimp, is very likely to also be allergic to another type, such as lobster or crab."

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Thanks!


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Oh no!!!!!!!

Many of those foods are on my beneficial list!!!!!!!!
I am really trying hard to get back to my totally wheat/gluten free diet!


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I advise the use of genoharmonics at the end of SWAMI to help overcome this (unless someone has tried for awhile and still no good result.)

This is my second day of eating spelt.
The bread was baked with egg.
I am not eating any bread tomorrow; my body favors the same foods for 2 days, then stops.

No "reactions" so to speak, except that I notice >tonight< heavy tree pollen is starting to irritate my thyroid (squeeze my throat) when I open the windows. Some pollens are the same basic shape as GRAIN POLLENS and I used to react to these badly. There was no noticeable pollen release all day until now. Usually pollen + gluten a year ago would make me SICK SICK SICK to throwing up. Tonight: eating pinapple and a couple stinging nettle capsules should curb the reaction. Tomorrow: I'll probably do a SWAMI "deep blue" day to clean up any inflammation triggered by pollen, if something doesn't "feel balanced."

Even after eating this good bread, I don't "want bread" the way gluten would make me go out of control like last year. And that's tops. I'm very grateful as a Nonnie A that SWAMI genoharmonics can create better algorythms in my body to "circumvent the gluten gut".


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Quoted from cajun
Oh no!!!!!!!

Many of those foods are on my beneficial list!!!!!!!!
I am really trying hard to get back to my totally wheat/gluten free diet!


Just because some food is on some list someplace on the internet does not mean that you should not eat those foods.

If you go to the original source:

http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11785-19-foods-that-cross-react-with-gluten.html

You will find that the original source does not say that you should not eat these foods permanently.

Instead it says that a certain fraction of people (The fraction is different for each food. Dairy has an extremely high fraction, but if you are following the BTD most types do not eat dairy anyway)

The article recommends that people should test foods for possible reactions. Only after testing a particular food for cross reactions should you not eat the food.




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Quoted from C_Sharp
Just because some food is on some list someplace on the internet does not mean that you should not eat those foods.

If you go to the original source:

http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11785-19-foods-that-cross-react-with-gluten.html

You will find that the original source does not say that you should not eat these foods permanently.

Instead it says that a certain fraction of people (The fraction is different for each food. Dairy has an extremely high fraction, but if you are following the BTD most types do not eat dairy anyway)

The article recommends that people should test foods for possible reactions. Only after testing a particular food for cross reactions should you not eat the food.
Thanks C_sharp... Was assuming people would see that, if they went to the article... (didn't know how to make it a link) Ironically I was too glutened after Easter's Spelt Fruit bread and other indulgences and then exposure to fumes at my work this morning to explain that bit...

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This article may be interesting, but  not worth panicking over unless you are extremely sensitive. Most of those foods I don't eat & I will go ahead & eat the few on the list.


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Seraffa, they say that the pollen is worse in the morning, so if you don't have to go out early, don't go.
Also eating protein early in the day may mix with the pollen & make your reaction worse.
I developed an allergy about age 30, but after many years on the BTD, I find that it is better now. I have the grass allergy with the season in our area at late May to early July.
Wishing you the best!


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Quoted from Drea
What does it mean to "cross react"?


I think the word 'mimic' fits well here. The article I saw said it was to explain why some people, who are apparently gluten sensitive eliminate gluten from their diets but not the symptoms. This really complicates an already touchy situation.






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Seraffa, they say that the pollen is worse in the morning, so if you don't have to go out early, don't go.
Also eating protein early in the day may mix with the pollen & make your reaction worse.
I developed an allergy about age 30, but after many years on the BTD, I find that it is better now. I have the grass allergy with the season in our area at late May to early July.
Wishing you the best!

I'm good this morning mrs t+o. I havent noticed anything this morning outside. And maybe just rearranging my room without mopping the floors kicked up enough microbes or mold to irritate me. But I'm not "down with an allergy" at all. Hooray for genoharmonics!!!


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The website Celiac.Com has a magazine article that said for some people they can have issues with other food and they divided it in to cross reactor (protein has similar shape and can cause body to react). CROSS REACTORS TO GLUTEN mag: cow's milk, casein, casomporphin, american cheese, chocolate, rye, barley, yeast, oats, coffee.
And other foods that are considered possible gluten related sensitivities that cause inflammation: Sesame, rice, corn, buckwheat, quinoa, sorghum, millet, amaranth, tapioca.

What I got from the article is that not everyone with gluten problems will react to all, but to be aware that if you are still having problemsm it might be due to one or more of these foods.
I have had issues with some of these but not all, and for instance can now eat oats again.
Lin


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I am not in a panic. I am frustrated because I just may be one of those "fraction" due to my ongoing sinus issues. I have had 3 sinus surgeries since 2008.The last one was a success because I now know I have AERD( Sampters triad/aspirin exacerbated respiratory disease) and am on aspirin therapy ( thus no more nasal polyps ). I have been a BTD/ER4YT then geno type follower since 2002.
Buckwheat, oats, rice are absolute mainstays of my diet! I drink coffee maybe 3 times a week and eat eggs maybe twice a month.
I am just hoping I don't need to stop eating these foods in order to stop my constant runny nose and mucous build up. (I did have the double allergy test and they found nada!) I know that I am environmentally sensitive to whatever blows on our ever present desert wind.


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I suspect it may be more likely to be mostly Explorers who are more susceptible to the cross reaction...?!
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as presumed and said...all explorers should become muchmore  aware about their patterns ... .........or perhaps take notice of the infos of the enneagram... type 1-5....sometimes pre-types like 4/5's... and then watsch out for resemblences ... like 9-6-3 = integrative but also desintegrative ways.. ..........


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I am just hoping I don't need to stop eating these foods in order to stop my constant runny nose and mucous build up. (I did have the double allergy test and they found nada!) I know that I am environmentally sensitive to whatever blows on our ever present desert wind.

I was reading lately about people who had sinus problems they were completely unaware of - no symptoms that they noticed, anyway, until they started taking a ton of quercetin for something else. Suddenly, they were not tired anymore and realized that they had been tired for ages and definitely had sinus issues - after they began to clear up. I wonder if it would help you.....


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Interesting article, and also the suggestion about taking quercetin for sinus issues. I've stopped eating all regular gluten, but it has only been a short time so it is really to soon for me to know if my sinus issues will go away. Now I some more things to try, and to watch for reactions. Quercetin certainly sounds easier than giving up beneficials like eggs and oats, but I have a lot of Explorer characteristics so anything is possible. Many thanks for this information.
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How about collinsonia.....sinus ladies? Maybe turmeric (curcumin)? Anybody do that morning lemon drink on an empty stomach to clear away any built up overnight mucous?

I'm thumbs up for quercetin also. I take it for headache relief primarily, though I've known its had many potential benefits.

As a person having had lifelong sinus problems including surgery in the 90's, I have to say my SWAMI diet has been fabulous in keeping my sinuses virtually clear and open. Although, I get some congestion when I eat non-compliant or simply eat dairy too late in the day, but even those effects are very temporary.


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Quoted from Lin

I have had issues with some of these but not all, and for instance can now eat oats again.
Lin


there you go!


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Quercetin certainly sounds easier than giving up beneficials like eggs and oats, but I have a lot of Explorer characteristics so anything is possible.


I buy non-corn derived vitamin c+ quercetin and take it every day. It is wonderful for a host of healing!


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I have had issues with some of these but not all, and for instance can now eat oats again.
Lin


I find the same. With being very compliant and healing the gut, it makes a huge difference to what one can consume! So, important to be compliant though in order for that to happen. The healing can be 'fast forwarded' with Deflect, Intrinsia and Polyflora.  
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All this really means is that many people have more than one food allergen or sensitivity. Here's a list of foods that "many people who don't tolerate gluten" also don't tolerate. Nowhere does it say that ALL people react to ALL the foods on the list. It's just a guideline; if you plan to use an elimination diet to identify your "problem foods", and you already know  gluten is one of them, here are 19 more foods you may want to test.

It's great information for somebody who tried a GF diet to help with health problems, and only found partial relief. It's less helpful for somebody who's been on GTD/GTD/SWAMI for a while and already has a better grasp of which foods to emphasise and which ones to avoid.

My SWAMI lists most of the foods on that list as "avoids" but a few are diamonds, beneficials, or neutrals. Maybe 5 of those 19 foods are OK for me.


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Rice is a big part of SWAMI for me, but I don't do well on it at all. I used to think I had simply stopped "liking" it, but it goes much farther than that. I feel exhausted, sleepy and generally lifeless after only eating a small serving of the stuff. If I put a little  rice flour in a recipe, it is not as bad because the other high-powered ingredients tend to offset it.


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spring,
yes I find not always, but often white rice in the evening will make me sleepy...but not brown rice.
thinking it could be a blood sugar thing?
Lin


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