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I only watched for a few minutes. It's an emotional response he isn't teaching, he driving people to his way of thinking. Cuts and digs but not facts. This is the kind of "reasonings" used in war propaganda.


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I'm not going to watch it.  BTD saved my life.  End of story.


Good idea!


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I think it would be like trying to talk Hitler into behaving.


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I think it would be like trying to talk Hitler into behaving.


Spring and I both probably speak for the "southerners" among us! It's not just a mindset - we was born this way. Like Duck Commanders protecting our preserve against beaver dams. (yes,  guns, but not aimed at Gregor.)


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Hi fellow BTDers

Whilst I certainly do not agree with this guys one size (vegetarian diet) fits all stipulations, I do concur with the sentiment I believe Eric was trying to convey - that this guy is actually breaking from the mould of the traditional alopathic establishment and is interested in the effect of diet on health. He could, under the right circumstances, become an ally. Sometimes I worry that we run the risk of becoming as 'bad' as some of the other extremist vege-vegan-fad-cabbagesoup-Atkins-et-al protesters out there if we go 'all guns blazing' angry on some of these issues and people.

This is a way of life and we all subscribe to and live/believe in it. I think that's enough right there and there are so many of us living healthy lives as a result of Dr D's work. We don't need to prove anything.

I say this with the best of intentions because I believe in Dr D and I believe in us. Let's not become them.

Andy


It's not like we're going to go find Gregor's house and host a protest outside, Andy, however, since we live in the USA, and experience such problems with healthcare structure compared to the UK (where my sister enjoys living, God bless her) Gregor shouldn't be kicking at beehives full of honey here at home without a couple of rational stings administered on youtube. If Gregor really wanted to detract from Dr. D's following he could have introduced calm (smoke) for little worker bees instead of a crazy collage of propaganda, thoughtfully followed by "I tried it for myself and there wasn't any difference at all," etc etc. "there's a better way",etc. etc. ESPECIALLY if he's already spoken on a national level before. The sneery attitude during the video was from some other motive he's not revealing right now. I doubt I became a bee in his bonnet afterwards

Most MD's really wish they could be as well liked as Dr. D.once they troll our site and his blogs - even if they have no clue as to how to go about garnering his level of success!


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I feel the need tomake a clear distinction from my perspective regarding the great divide we seem to be having..I think those of us who are supporting Eric's desire to interview/educate Greger is something very different than supporting any of what Greger said in this video.  To those of you who found this video offensive, I agree with you BUT I also want to always give people the opportunity to hear the truth if they will listen.. Eric has gotten Greger to agree to do an interview.   His intention is to try and reach this guy by sharing a different truth from what Greger thinks he knows..That's all I accept about
this entire discussion...that Eric be given a chance.  Eric has done some great videos that promote and
educate people about the BTD.....

I'm just suggesting that we be supportive of Eric's attempt to educate a truly uniformed doctor....
part of an entire profession that sees natural medicine as the enemy, although Greger seems to
have his own personal agenda so he likely could be open to  widening his perspective.  Maybe
not....I think it's worth waiting to see how Eric's interview goes.

I feel this discussion is creating the belief that there are  two different canps here...those who dislike what Greger said and those who maybe think it's okay..  Anyone who follows the BTD, GTD or cares anything about Dr. D and all he's done to improve the health of so many of us, shouldn't be here defending Greger's statements.....and I really don't think any of us are doing that.


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I thought it was very clear in the discussion that if Eric can work wonders with this guy, more power to him. The problem, though, with that is, people who carry on the way he did in the video seem to border on being a mental case IMO. Especially, his delivery done in such a way to obviously incite people in the worst sort of way. I don't think anybody on this forum has any intention of doing any such thing, so, therefore, my reaction to the "becoming them" foolishness.


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I thought it was very clear in the discussion that if Eric can work wonders with this guy, more power to him. The problem, though, with that is, people who carry on the way he did in the video seem to border on being a mental case IMO. Especially, his delivery done in such a way to obviously incite people in the worst sort of way. I don't think anybody on this forum has any intention of doing any such thing, so, therefore, my reaction to the "becoming them" foolishness.


I agree, getting through to this guy might be close to impossible, but just want to say one last
thing...

Best wishes, Eric....



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I agree, getting through to this guy might be close to impossible, but just want to say one last
thing...

Best wishes, Eric....



Ditto. And I think it's a good idea that we re-read Andy's post.



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He sounds very bored with what he is reciting. He speaks and chews and swallows as fast as he can, but the text doesn't end... Clearly a repulsive performance. Yikes  

Does he always lecture like this? It sounds as if he is making sure that nobody listens

Honestly, who is going to take him seriously after the opening placard "Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler" ?



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Ok... I am coming back to this from another way...

Yet, in some ways WE here are becoming holier than dough... We have become so territorial that we 'have' become as 'opinionated' as some of 'them'.  

I have MARveled at Lola who so painstakingly made the:  A garland of gratitude for Dr. D thread with hundreds of positive entries in just the last few years.  Why could not the PR persons or each of us just forward that Complete Thread to anyone who is misguided, who does not 'believe' / or dares to criticize / and let those hundreds of postings speak for themselves.  

I mean! Did anyone here devote more time to COLLecting as many UNsolicited comments and organize them so neatly without guile, nor bad intentions, just honest reflections collected over time.  I think we should have long ago made use of that thread and allow those postings, all to speak lauder than any words I can say politely when upset, or not so politely when upset.  

Well intentions are a given in my life (in all that I do- and I fully expect the same of everyone here -all the time), but words are seldom so well documented showing no malice, no criticism, no I told you so, just pure demonstrations of how for years people have come and gone and yet left great praise for the work started by Dr James D, and taken way way bejond by Dr. Peter D’Adamo and his educational efforts...

Could someone come in and comment on the value of 'inclusion', of understanding the need for emotional expressions some times and allowing for differences, / be they international differences, local understanding / by smart people who might just be misguided?  Could the honest comments collected by Lola serve a greater purpose?   Could we rest assured that 'proof' is there for all to read, and become less defensive (me included) about any one of the issues aggravating someone for the moment or the day??

I might even suggest, that we could create another thread with links to personal videos or picture 'selfies' of food we created, or of something we wrote, or demonstrated to others?  Could there be a whole new 'media' exploitation/explosion/expression of valuable personal experiences we have with the Blood Type, Geno Type, Swami Type, Medical College Type of living?  

Are we missing the greatest opportunity by being critical, afraid, territorial, judgmental, silenced, instead of participating joyfully and 'fresh' leaving a greater (links) legacy of Dr Peter D'Adamo's work during the NEXT 20 years of ever new discoveries and fresh adjustments.  

His work was Ions ahead of others, and still is,.  If others use it, let it be the best way to familiarize/publicize it to the millions who have never heard of BTD., millions who are still suffering and walking for years in the wilderness of costly 'strictly medical models' of knowledge.  

Answer: Let Lola’s efforts be the beginning of shining a Bright Light on BTD....

....... and those here creative and capable, create a multy-media sensational thread with links to 'selfies' doing BTD things!         


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Yaeli, I thought it's forbidden for us to name this subject *Hinkl* by his true name ...


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I think we already have a shining bright light on this forum. People spend HOURS supporting each other during their various traumas: all kinds of health problems, daily living problems, diet problems, etc., day after day after day. Month after month after month. Year in and year out. They rejoice with those that rejoice and weep with those who weep. That beats the daylights out of ANY, repeat, ANY other forum in the entire world that covers this much ground. The only thing lacking is a "LIKE!" button that we all miss!


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I think we already have a shining bright light on this forum. People spend HOURS supporting each other during their various traumas: all kinds of health problems, daily living problems, diet problems, etc., day after day after day. Month after month after month. Year in and year out. They rejoice with those that rejoice and weep with those who weep. That beats the daylights out of ANY, repeat, ANY other forum in the entire world that covers this much ground. The only thing lacking is a "LIKE!" button that we all miss!


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Periodically, diet doctors with an agenda (usually their own one size fits all diet) latch onto the flawed PLOS/Blood Type Diet Debunking 'study.' The latest is Michael Greger MD (vegan, nutritionfacts.org), who released an absolutely shameful video, complete with quotes from Adolph Hitler (himself a vegan) glorying in the debunking of the BTD. If you contact one of his drones, I'd appreciate it if you shared my response to this garbage of a study:

http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2014/01/24/kicking-bubbles/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

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Hey...thumbs up. No need for me to speak out anymore


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Yaeli, I thought it's forbidden for us to name this subject *Hinkl* by his true name ...
Oops! I didn't know. Russians pronounce the  letter "H" at the begining of a word as "G", so they pronounce it "Gitler". Gitler is a quite common Jewish surname....

It is most foul what this chap (Dr. G) did. Yes, it's better not to even go there.





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I think we already have a shining bright light on this forum. People spend HOURS supporting each other during their various traumas: all kinds of health problems, daily living problems, diet problems, etc., day after day after day. Month after month after month. Year in and year out. They rejoice with those that rejoice and weep with those who weep. That beats the daylights out of ANY, repeat, ANY other forum in the entire world that covers this much ground. The only thing lacking is a "LIKE!" button that we all miss!
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