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on my swami i have enoki mushrooms......what's that? i knew only porcini..... but those one, too, first time in my life i've ever seen them.
so let's go with a web research to figure it out how to cook them!
i found this
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-stamets/mushrooms-health_b_3069976.html
another good reason to eat them.
thanks Dr D.


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there are a lot of other beneficial mushies for all types but or in powder form as an adaptogen or as an extract... better for prevention and illness ...

and those are even ok and goodies for pets as well...


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enoki are a small capped mushroom that grow in thick tight clusters. they are often eaten raw in salads but also are interesting in stir fry. they only offer white button or baby bella mushroom locally . I can pick fresh puff mushroom in season. I really love culinary mushrooms and look for different types when I leave town. most mushrooms are black dot or neutral on my swami so I guess the lack of availability keeps my mushroom fetish in check as I don't often leave town when I do I try to get hen of the woods (one of the few good ones I get) and sometimes I will get king trumpets as a treat. if I am going really far out I get crimnie (oh lovely crimnies!) so hard to get... no I don't like mushrooms at all


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santina, maybe you can find them growing wild in your area or grow them yourself!  I find Hen of the Woods and Chicken of the Woods in my backyard, but they cause me bloating and other stomach discomfort.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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santina, maybe you can find them growing wild in your area or grow them yourself!  I find Hen of the Woods and Chicken of the Woods in my backyard, but they cause me bloating and other stomach discomfort.


i don't think that something else than pollution can be caught in milan!!
i'd try to grow them but, you know what? i couldn't even figure it out how to manage with alfa alfa sprouts.....so

by the way i cooked enoki and this is my review:
i found them absolutely delicious, with quinoa and zucchini.
seemed like noodles.


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Can Isa check in here & suggest commercial 'shrooms that are good for health. She recommends certain healing 'shrooms, but I am sure they are hard to get.  
But maybe some grocery store ones are recommended in the meantime.
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Mrs.T O+...your wish is my honour ...hmm you must be sure they are cultivated: organic.... coz some of the woods might have to much Caesium in coz still of the nuclear thingies
todays there are mushroom farms for fresh food and of course for medicinal mushies.... I use both and will go for another turn of detox soon... *one week with mushies* almost to every meal... will have an eye if that will work with me

I bought a beautiful comendium from Prof.Dr. Jan Lelley and he recommends it..and I'm going to give a try coz I feel this can be one of the response for prediabetes...as often misunderstood in our nonniehood.... and of course for weight loss programs...and...and.. and....btw... the most important in and for my case always to have stabilized: hypoglycemia!!! We tend to have a lack here and i think to get some more infos about this very special thema coz I'm also convinced as Dr. D. always pointed out... this isn't related to diabetes but is a typical problem for us, the nonnies!!!

And nope my dearle 1/4 of mine Mrs.T O+ neither are the vital/healing mushies hard to get, nor are those in fresh forms hard to get..we only need to look for where we can get them ... but be sure they are bio/organic....

They are even well suiting with the orthomelecular medicine...I wasn't sure here but got a positive response....so I will combine them also with our form of nutritional ways of life ....and as said....one more way to see *Rome* once upon the days  


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This is just a side note, but I am noticing of the AB's I meet.....AB's are very attracted to mushrooms even if they do not know about the BTD yet....so when they are like Amazone I. they become expert.  


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it's easy for me while testing the mushies directly onto the clients ...


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forgot to point out for another important thema and *healing mushies*


I tested how different blood types react onto the mushies since a while... I know by testing peeps..who sometimes abuses with alcohol and who does not... all this is to be seen in my Vegatester but I always be silent while only taking notice... and so on I didn't mentioned anything about this but waited until recall came in here ... nearly all of those who indeed abused alc. intake claimed adequate symptoms while having taken the mushies for *normal detox issues* ...
Those symptoms are mild but they are detectable and show even up if somebody is at the same time diabetic..even more....I've inform them about eventual symptomatics if
ther's any problem..... and yep a fine thing those mushies coz some of my clients were now able to agree their true problem and are even more thankful coz now they  have a true helper to go against their dependancies... isn't that a fine effect .....
Better to use those mushies instead of so called *antabus* which is even more harmfull in liver dammage...


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Isa, could you recommend the superfood medicinal mushrooms for the different blood types?


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I tested how different blood types react onto the mushies since a while

I was one tested by Isa!!! Nearly 6 years ago. The test showed that the Reishi and Agaricus BM were excellent for me.

Half a year ago I took another test here in Israel, which showed that Agaricus BM and Chaga fit me 100% .

Isa, could you recommend the superfood medicinal mushrooms for the different blood types?



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Yaeli, Peter mentioned them in the encyclopedia in a form a bit contradictoir  for my opinion  ... but at the same time he goes especially for us, the AB's as a fine prevention in nearly all mushies... this is one thing I didn't really got...I'm going to look in what kind of programs is that to be seen, merely in the german version or english-one...sorry can't tell ya right now...

And it's all about those (beta) glucans, lectins,antioxidants etc.. but todays they're also isolated up from 500mg's but it depends if they are water soluble or not.... a lot of producers sell this stuff and it isn't anything worth... herefore have an eye onto 1.) organic
products and extracts & powder.... the difference here is related in the mix-ups... coz from the powder it's recommended up to 4-5 grams daily... the extract between 0.5grams and 3 grams in heavy cases....

What is known, that almost B's and AB's or better said all humans  shouldn't take any Shiitake while suffering from a sort of penicillin allergy, here also a reaction might be possible... but NOT onto the extract.....amazing...amazing...this is written in the literature..

Next: About the polysaccharides.. I really observed and think best is to get tested when those needs do change and we also should always remember to come along with rotation principe, so far your body won't get adapted that much and is able to react as it should be ....
Hope el grande maistro is congruent here with my observations and might give his statement coz I don't have any clue how those betaglucans match with our bt's.. I use my tester to look for congruence in informations and resonances..... this is it what I can offer and see how pilzli match in that very situation...  


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perhaps should I have an eye into  onto the polysaccharides how they're build up and here might be the reply of BTD compatibilities but at this tme...no time to do so....


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it's easy for me while testing the mushies directly onto the clients ...


sorry in advance, maybe i'm asking too much, anyway...what about type a???


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Santina, one of the best things would be...go to a bioresonance specialist and get tested directly, so far your body shows up with adequate reactions....

Or go to a kinesiologue and hopefully he/she will have some samples to test with ....
Those mushies do show up with a lot of resemblances, like anti-tumor, anti- high bp,anti-diabetics etc... but every mushroom corresponds onto the needs of a human, it is as individual as it can be... I once tried Maitake...= nada for me...dito Reishi.... complete catastrophe coz it seems that I didn't came along with caféine acid inthere ...and so on....

I use them for roborance and also in combination for adrenal fatigue... I'm working lots and it seems that those mushies do extremly well their jobs ...all about better bioavailabilities coz of the stuff itself ....
They are even a superbene against hypoglycemia coz they produce carbs but without any starch..... so far also a superbene coz very less of purines and ok for diabetics and peeps who want to loose weight coz of so less of calories ...


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Hello Amazone, i understand that you are so much in this "stuff" and very passionate about it! it seems to me very far from my knowledge of the matter, nevertheless i'm grateful for your detailed explanation. I'd like to read more and know more as well. thank you so much and greetings from italy!
p.s. today is a very wonderful sunny day, and the swallows are back!!!YES


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hello hello dearle half of mine of Italy ...Have an eye onto/into Mycotherapy in italian language... you're going to be very astonished what those mushies all can do for us .... Best infos here of international standarts are of Prof.Dr. Lelley from
Germany, perhaps do you have also some of those capacities in Italie  
and btw..you've the oportunity to pm to me;).. ask the questions you've on your heart and I'm going to give a try to reply honestly ... btw.. must be honest at this very situation... I wasn't really aware about the potential of those mushies until I've seen it with my clients lately(I was merely in the orthomolecular sequences... but this is adaptable as well... and as I'm looking for another solutions for my cancer patients, this is one of the solutions, as salvestroles are in the other hand ...
Haa Milano, some of our oldest members are from Milano, isn't  Maria Giovanna outta there?? and some other italien friends ...
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too much of vehicles and bad air   ...

So my dearle take care and as said...let's talk...


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You may find explanations by this producer of medicinal mushrooms water extracts (organic)

http://www.mushroomscience.com/products/

and also by this producer, who is a special herbalist

http://www.dragonherbs.com/


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Amazone and Yaeli thank you very much!


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You may find explanations by this producer of medicinal mushrooms water extracts (organic)

http://www.mushroomscience.com/products/

and also by this producer, who is a special herbalist

http://www.dragonherbs.com/


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Averno, justamente saw an info about a special mushie working with hyaluron acid in Yaeli's last infos about  mushrooms  Perhaps would that also be a fine helper for your wife  ...


Thanks, Isa. I'm having trouble finding that info in these links. May I ask that you identify the product?  

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....... need to make a deeper research ....please be patient...

but can report... have lost 3 kilos since I've begun my mushie treatment....amazing stuff  


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These pages contains product's price, contrary to the board's rules!!!! and the moderators may choose to remove the post. That's why I haven't shared it before:

Here is for example info on Agaricus Blazei Murill, which Isa says is right for AB

http://www.mushroomscience.com/products/agaricus-blazei/


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Here is a link to a site with articles on various medicinal mushrooms

http://www.medicalmushrooms.net/


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These pages contains product's price, contrary to the board's rules!!!! and the moderators may choose to remove the post. That's why I haven't shared it before:

It is great to share information about sources of beneficial products, etc.
The only caveat is that the site not be a source of revenue for the person posting the link.  So it can't be a website personally owned or one with a revenue sharing plan with a "owner" number in the link, etc...

Many of us share links to sites selling products that we have used, or resembling products we use, etc...  It is good for the community to share sources.


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It is great to share information about sources of beneficial products, etc.
The only caveat is that the site not be a source of revenue for the person posting the link.  So it can't be a website personally owned or one with a revenue sharing plan with a "owner" number in the link, etc...

Many of us share links to sites selling products that we have used, or resembling products we use, etc...  It is good for the community to share sources.
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Averno- complete of mine ... I've found it...all about Tremella mushy .... b u t.... hmmm I've observed even O's here can be very
reactive on + - all kinds of mushies..as they do react also on phytos muchmore then all other btypes... better get tested first .... ok I know that those mushies are
merely counted into the animal section instead of being a true plant ... ...so far.... so well ...


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Hi Isa the most A BT friend of these against insulin-resistence ?  i am doing a detox 2 formulas, plus Reishi for adrenals ( vit C and Whitania or heleuterococcus always as routine treatment ) he first days I had some small rashes on the right leg.
Now all good , but your opinion and experience please thanks !
I eat often agaricus the common champignon not organic... ??


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hmmm Reishi for adrenals ...I was merely persuated this is ok to go for Cordyceps .... Do you use extract or better for detox I saw was... still is the complete mushie as powder and here is polyporus or  pleurotus... Coprinus or Maitake in cases of insulin resistence... but take care and be aware, mushies can show up with a form of antabus effect and you become blue while consuming alcohol ... but this is known with coprinus extract    almost.... and heartbeats or rushes might happen with others... milder or a bit heavier ... Pilzli's are awesome

If possible dearest MG...consume em organic ....

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hmmm Reishi for adrenals ...I was merely persuated this is ok to go for Cordyceps .... Do you use extract or better for detox I saw was... still is the complete mushie as powder and here is polyporus or  pleurotus... Coprinus or Maitake in cases of insulin resistence... but take care and be aware, mushies can show up with a form of antabus effect and you become blue while consuming alcohol ... but this is known with coprinus extract    almost.... and heartbeats or rushes might happen with others... milder or a bit heavier ... Pilzli's are awesome

If possible dearest MG...consume em organic ....

wish you all the best from yours amiga Isa  



I have a question...I recently started drinking a green tea and coffee product that contains the Ganoderma Lucidum mushroom. I have had low blood pressure, some irregular heartbeats and very hot. I didn't think about the mushroom being a possible culprit until I read your post about heartbeats or rushes...could this be a possibility??? Your opinion is greatly valued.

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Juliebug... it depends...  G L is Reishi and this happened to mee when I gave a try...wasn't able to support it but this due to explorerdom... I tried bing-bang 500mg's of extract and it gave heartracings to me... but this might be different while taking this mushy as normal pilzpowder...not as an extract!  


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forgot to mention .... some of the pilzli do have caféine acid in... so far no wonder ............


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Juliebug... it depends...  G L is Reishi and this happened to mee when I gave a try...wasn't able to support it but this due to explorerdom... I tried bing-bang 500mg's of extract and it gave heartracings to me... but this might be different while taking this mushy as normal pilzpowder...not as an extract!  


p.s.


forgot to mention .... some of the pilzli do have caféine acid in... so far no wonder ............


Thank you Amazone! After I read your earlier post about some effects of a different mushroom, I did some research on Reishi. I quit drinking the expensive beverages with the mushroom and my BP is slowly coming back up and I am not having palpitations or sweats. I just didn't connect the mushroom with what was going on...thank you so much. You saved me a trip to the emergency room, which is where my husband was about to take me.  
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Isa, thank you for this wonderful post, and Yaeli for the links. It seems that being tested with bioresonance is a good start, and I have three questions:

1) What does bioresonance testing reveal?

2) Are different mushrooms recommended as healing proceeds?

3) Is the therapy eventually terminated, or shifted to maintenance dosage?

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1.)it shows up with what kind of stuff...equal of what... you're going into *resonance*... meant here is... is a stoff ok for you or not... this is one of the possibilities to use it... my Vegatester is a computerizedv machina..so far no doubt....programs can't be cheated ....

2.)yep... I'm justamente on Polyporus and ABM & Cordyceps....Cordyceps as an extract... but here only some 350mg's.... that's ok for me... and the others are only p.powders = mushie-powders...sorry...

3.) you can come along with both...some use it as a form of cure...3 months to 6 months... cancerpatients of mine take em much longer... for years...= better ...

Juliebug...au service et plaisir ;) and fine if all those infos are some helpers for your own situation  .....



btw.. Ther's a well known expert called Prof.Dr. Lelley I think worth to read his books and infos about mycotherapy and I remember a US or canadian ND who was completamente freaky about his *Chaga* trouvailles... some of them might be story tellers... but all the infos I've seen and found about the *pilzli's*...nothing but awesome and it made now some 6 months that I've adopted this method....amazing how tumors do shrink...are gone etc... no joke at all but truth...and yep sometimes I'm combining em with Salvestroles... it depends of the infos I get from a client... but ok must be honest...as said...we can't be always assured they will help... as said.. I've lost 2 patiens yesterday coz of cancer issues... but must also be honest here...they didn't really cared about themselfs and came too late... so far it disturbs my soul but I'm not at all able to cure out all......


wish you all a beautiful sunday... I'm in my office and give a try to paperworks... what a mess...


p.s.


a lot of those *healing mushies* do have similar effects it seems!!! But indeed they work onto a complete different level... so far that'swhy I prefer to test them directly onto clients it shows me and assures me not committing any error ;) ... my biggest fear.... ..... ;)


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Thank you, Isa, I have a much clearer picture now  

So sorry to hear about your patients. All the more reason to get healthy and stay healthy. We place far too much faith in being rescued by the miracles of modern medicine, and not enough responsibility in caring for our "temple". Kind of ironic  


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ppss...


the most amazing thing here for me is...as being a blo..nonnie I've got problems with hypoglycemia of the finest... 1.) wanted to be compliant...how am I able to do so with my heavy workouts ...indeed work-outs in blo..work in hospitals-private praxis and so on ...I can cope to take my propper food with me... but sorry I'm off during 70 hours of work during a week...where to get my foods then...I felt guilty then and saw also...it doesn't bothers that much my body if I can take a rest for some detoxprograms after (later... )... b u t...when is later....grrr...a snake bites itself into its queue.... so far I found out that those pilzli provide the needed carbs without attacking my nerves nor pancreas... hey... what a great stuff this seems to be ....wow....  ....
All is well explained in those 2 books from Prof.Dr. Jan Lelley: *compendium of mycotherapy* and *healing mushrooms* -the one who eats mushrooms lives longer-
amazing books and stuffs... I can deal with such infos...but not with belief-systems like TCM...sorry... .......(I won't recommend tiger gonades to make males more fertile)....woahooaaa...

ooops...


and thanx Averno for your kind words...can't resist but anyway..


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and also be aware please ...some of the mushroomproducer do mix up with or millet(onwhich the pilzli is grown) or even rye or other so called basic stuffs* so far I can't deal with millet at all and wondered why I was feeling bad on ABM from a certain teutonic firm...   Here in EU they need to declare it... I'm wondering how this is held in USA ............

So far better to go for organic and pure pilzli's (mushies) instead ....and yeppers read the labels ...


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Hmmmmnnn...    A hypoglycemia rescue kit for traveling. Great idea!

I control it well under most circumstances, but the uncertainties of travel throws everything out of whack.

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