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santina
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i was wondering...
if i have to test by myself every food THEN what is the purpose of swami?

thank you


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yes Lola, thanks for your reply.
i meant that the book maybe could be already enough. don't you think?


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i was wondering...
if i have to test by myself every food THEN what is the purpose of swami?


I don't think you will have to test every food.  You may have reactions when you eat some foods due to the condition of your body, which may require you to use small amounts of those foods initially and add as your body gets better.

SWAMI tells you what each food rating should be - as close as a computer program can, and it is a great starting point - even better than any of the book diets.  It doesn't know when you start whether you have damage such that your body responds extremely negative to certain nutrients.

For instance, even though I said I had "white lines" which tells it that I have digestive/absorption issues, it can't know to what extent and that this is causing some auto-immune responses to specific items so I had to limit them to tiny bits.  Once I took enough little bits regularly and did some healing, I was able to tolerate normal portions.

The way I looked at it initially, SWAMI is a guide to let you know that if a specific Beneficial food is causing a reaction, it is likely a healing response, rather than an Avoid rated food resulting in a reaction is probably a hurting reaction...


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to each their own
the book has only the variables in the advanced calculator

while swami computes an enormous amount of data

listen to Dr D explain in this audio
http://www.4yourtype.com/MEDIA_audio.asp#
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I don't think you will have to test every food.  You may have reactions when you eat some foods due to the condition of your body, which may require you to use small amounts of those foods initially and add as your body gets better.

SWAMI tells you what each food rating should be - as close as a computer program can, and it is a great starting point - even better than any of the book diets.  It doesn't know when you start whether you have damage such that your body responds extremely negative to certain nutrients.

For instance, even though I said I had "white lines" which tells it that I have digestive/absorption issues, it can't know to what extent and that this is causing some auto-immune responses to specific items so I had to limit them to tiny bits.  Once I took enough little bits regularly and did some healing, I was able to tolerate normal portions.

The way I looked at it initially, SWAMI is a guide to let you know that if a specific Beneficial food is causing a reaction, it is likely a healing response, rather than an Avoid rated food resulting in a reaction is probably a hurting reaction...



It does make sense to me. Maybe i was expecting so much from my swami.
i found that i have a black dot on spinach (?), almonds (?).
i must say that before there were beneficial and neutral so i ate both quite regularly and i didn't feel nothing "strange" but, again, ---if it does work for everyone here then it has to be right for me too...



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You can eat some avoids & not have an outward bad reaction, but as you do the diet more & more, you will find that you will get a reaction from certain ones.  For quite a few years, I ate lots of whole wheat & felt fine, but after not eating it for a long time, I will get a reaction.

A recent blood test showed some improvement in a couple of areas & I credit the BTD.


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I would view it as a good thing that you don't have any adverse reactions to those foods.  It may be that those foods aren't bad for you at all.  It may be that some of your swami is incomplete and if it was updated more it would show those as good.

Or it may  be that they don't really feel all that bad for you but there might be better choices.  

As Joe said, it's a great starting point.  The focus is optimum health.  But food is food.  If our bodies were perfect there'd be no reason to even think about which food is best.  We'd just eat.  But, since our bodies aren't perfect, some inputs may be better than others.  Some distinctly so, and some a little bit.  And over time some things that don't seem bad may make things worse.  Who knows.  It's all a process of seeing what works for you.  


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Perhaps you are wanting swami to tell you it's alight to eat stuff that is bad for you or that you like.

If you give it a chance it works wonderfully.


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Hi Santina,

Take the new information from SWAMI and transition from BTD slowly if you need to.  Just do your best.  You have made a lot of changes quickly over the last few weeks and I think you are doing great. Every change we make in the direction of improved health is a victory.
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thank you so much for sharing, i love to interact with you all

guys please forgive me but i need to open my heart - it's a part of the cleansing program -and so i'll tell you something:
as i've already said, some foods that were forbidden are now ok, such as black tea, lamb,tomato juice... anyway this brought me to have some doubts about the informations i gave, i thought "is it possible that by the measurement of the fingers and or torso i'm now allowed to eat some foods that before were bad for my BT?" please trust me i have "fear" to come back to those foods that i don't eat since.....ages

and, more than that
i kind of wonder if some other "stuff" such as gluten and soy intolerants ( that i have) are less important than my grandma dementia.

in a nutshell:
those things put me to think not the best of my swami, it's just that i trust more the book..does it make any sense? am i wrong?
did you have the same food in your BT book list and in your swami?
if it is not the same which one do you follow?
this is a "moment of transition" from the book to swami i don't know how to manage with.


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did you have the same food in your BT book list and in your swami?
After having ordered SWAMI and while I was waiting for the mail to bring it to me, I made a short wish list of 8 foods that I especially liked and that BTD had advised me to avoid, expressing my hope that SWAMI will give them back to me. It turned out, that SWAMI gave me back 6 out of these 8 foods!

I definitely prefer SWAMI - it suits me so well, certainly better than the previous plans. What I eat I choose from SWAMI, and I don't get to eat every single food on the lists.

Are these foods that you have abstained from and that SWAMI now recommends to you to your liking? If they are, you have an added value here. If you feel that these foods don't agree with you - you may just forget about them! The most important thing remains: to keep away from avoids and not to put an emphasis on neutrals.


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i kind of wonder if some other "stuff" such as gluten and soy intolerants ( that i have) are less important than my grandma dementia.
Basically you are in the center and everything is entwined together as it were like a huge embroidery, working together for your benefit. Every bit is important.




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After having ordered SWAMI and while I was waiting for the mail to bring it to me, I made a short wish list of 8 foods that I especially liked and that BTD had advised me to avoid, expressing my hope that SWAMI will give them back to me. It turned out, that SWAMI gave me back 6 out of these 8 foods!

I definitely prefer SWAMI - it suits me so well, certainly better than the previous plans. What I eat I choose from SWAMI, and I don't get to eat every single food on the lists.

Are these foods that you have abstained from and that SWAMI now recommends to you to your liking? If they are, you have an added value here. If you feel that these foods don't agree with you - you may just forget about them! The most important thing remains: to keep away from avoids and not to put an emphasis on neutrals.


Basically you are in the center and everything is entwined together as it were like a huge embroidery, working together for your benefit. Every bit is important.




Thank you so much, thank you so much.
i'm aware that in this moment what i need most is to be sure that i'm going in the right direction, your words Yaeli are a strong motivation for me to keep on.
please, tell me, after you eat back the "new foods" did you feel any reaction? good or bad?

" If they are, you have an added value here"-----yes, they actually are. i like them, of course, but - i mean i like chocolate too (who doesn't???very dark, even 100% chocolate and now it has a black dot as grape as well. so i can't trust on my palate to feel if they are beneficial or not.

please can you explain me better about eggs?
it says Portion size : 1 egg
Frequency: 9 servings weekly
what does it mean? that i can eat 9 eggs a week?if so could i eat even 2 eggs once in a day? thank you


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please, tell me, after you eat back the "new foods" did you feel any reaction? good or bad?
I felt no reaction at all.


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i like chocolate  ... (who doesn't???very dark, even 100% chocolate and now it has a black dot as grape as well. so i can't trust on my palate to feel if they are beneficial or not.
After a washout period of 3-6 months you can re-introduce the black dots to your menu in moderate portions and have them once in a while. For myself I find it best to avoid them altogether. Part of them are foods that I may crave, like green olives and red wine! I love them and they are bad for me.     Happened to me with people too...  



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what does it mean? that i can eat 9 eggs a week?if so could i eat even 2 eggs once in a day? thank you
Yes. My SWAMI recommends 10 eggs a week, but I have 14 - two scrambled eggs for breakfast.    Not huge ones. Medium eggs. I think it's possible that El Dorado will persuade my body to consume less of them.  


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thanks Doc


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Part of them are foods that I may crave, like green olives and red wine! I love them and they are bad for me.     Happened to me with people too...  





Loved this-- about the people--that we crave people who are not always good for us.





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The whole point of SWAMI is that it's personalized just for me. I don't have to avoid all the foods that are problematic for "most Gatherers" or "Most Os"; I only have to avoid the foods that are problematic for me personally. In this way, my diet is broadened.

Similarly, there are foods that I cannot tolerate but were OK for O in the BTD book or for Gatherers in the GTD book. I'm healthier for eating just "the foods that are good for me personally" rather than "the foods that are good for most Os" or "the foods that are  good for most Gatherers."

I trust SWAMI way more than any of the "book diets" for this reason. But the diets in the books are still wonderful diets. If you feel more comfortable following that for now, that's an option too. It probably won't bring you to the same level of health that following SWAMI can, but it will keep you far healthier than the "typical European diet" possibly could!


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The whole point of SWAMI is that it's personalized just for me. I don't have to avoid all the foods that are problematic for "most Gatherers" or "Most Os"; I only have to avoid the foods that are problematic for me personally. In this way, my diet is broadened.

Similarly, there are foods that I cannot tolerate but were OK for O in the BTD book or for Gatherers in the GTD book. I'm healthier for eating just "the foods that are good for me personally" rather than "the foods that are good for most Os" or "the foods that are  good for most Gatherers."

I trust SWAMI way more than any of the "book diets" for this reason. But the diets in the books are still wonderful diets. If you feel more comfortable following that for now, that's an option too. It probably won't bring you to the same level of health that following SWAMI can, but it will keep you far healthier than the "typical European diet" possibly could!


Beautifully said RuhieGirl.
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Yogurt was rated a great food for me in previous Dr. D. diets, but after a few years I began to notice that I didn't feel just right after eating it. Well, lo and behold, SWAMI doesn't even have it as a black dot for me! I have eaten a small amount of it a couple of times since I left it off, and the reaction is very bad indeed! So no yogurt for this one - thank you SWAMI!

Chicken was a great choice on other Dr. D. diets,  but, as with the yogurt, after a few years I began to feel excessively tired after eating it. Now, it is a neutral on my SWAMI so I only eat it occasionally and manage all right with it. And there are many, many other instances of SWAMI proving its worth to me.


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The trepidation, or lack of confidence in swami is a normal thing when it's new.  Especially if you have felt well in doing the BTD.  The measurements and all the information you have to put in is complex and a lot of us wondered if we did it properly.  There are videos on how to do and such but if the truth be told, it would be comforting if Dr. D or one of his Doctors did all the measurements for all of us.  .

But of course that's not going to happen unless we go there and pay for it.  Or go to a conference.  Which is fine.  

It takes a while to have some confidence.  And I don't like trying new foods that I haven't eaten in a while either because I've had times where food seemed to make me feel lousy.  So...  I think what you are feeling with the transition is totally normal.  And you still have to take into account that a food that rates good on swami could still mess with you.  

Another example of that for me is millet.  Millet is supposed to be good for me but the couple of times I've made it, I feel pretty yucky after eating it.  I don't digest it well and it just feels all wrong in my gut.  So...  I just don't eat it.  

But for me swami is WAY superior to BTD so I'm glad I made the transition.  I still have a lot of foods to keep trying that I haven't eaten in a while and I get in kind of a rut with certain foods that I know work.  And I'm not very good at pushing the envelope.  But some of the foods that BTD said were a no no for me but my swami says is good, some of those are really great to be able to eat I have found.  

Hope this helps!  You'll get into a rhythm sooner or later.  It's a process.  Change is hard on the ole brain bucket.  


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The trepidation, or lack of confidence in swami is a normal thing when it's new.  Especially if you have felt well in doing the BTD.  The measurements and all the information you have to put in is complex and a lot of us wondered if we did it properly.  There are videos on how to do and such but if the truth be told, it would be comforting if Dr. D or one of his Doctors did all the measurements for all of us.  .

But of course that's not going to happen unless we go there and pay for it.  Or go to a conference.  Which is fine.  

It takes a while to have some confidence.  And I don't like trying new foods that I haven't eaten in a while either because I've had times where food seemed to make me feel lousy.  So...  I think what you are feeling with the transition is totally normal.  And you still have to take into account that a food that rates good on swami could still mess with you.  

Another example of that for me is millet.  Millet is supposed to be good for me but the couple of times I've made it, I feel pretty yucky after eating it.  I don't digest it well and it just feels all wrong in my gut.  So...  I just don't eat it.  

But for me swami is WAY superior to BTD so I'm glad I made the transition.  I still have a lot of foods to keep trying that I haven't eaten in a while and I get in kind of a rut with certain foods that I know work.  And I'm not very good at pushing the envelope.  But some of the foods that BTD said were a no no for me but my swami says is good, some of those are really great to be able to eat I have found.  

Hope this helps!  You'll get into a rhythm sooner or later.  It's a process.  Change is hard on the ole brain bucket.  


hello JJR, you nailed it, thank you.
today i'm feeling really bad (because of fissures).
i'm going ahead with swami but i'll stop all the supplements. for me it's enough.
thank you so much all of you for your support.


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You're welcome.  


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Chicken was a great choice on other Dr. D. diets,  but, as with the yogurt, after a few years I began to feel excessively tired after eating it.

This might actually be a good thing if you have trouble sleeping.  I've noticed that when I eat chicken (a dot on my SWAMI) in the evening that I sleep better at night.
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This might actually be a good thing if you have trouble sleeping.  I've noticed that when I eat chicken (a dot on my SWAMI) in the evening that I sleep better at night.


Check the Type Base Food Values to see potential throttling to your metabolism that the black dot causes. Any black dot will eventually reveal some damage done by the end of a week. (which is why it is wise not to consume a meal of mainly black dots, either.) My beloved oysters, high in good nutrients, eventually produce acne cysts.

Or, it could be that if SWAMI was set to "deep blue", chicken would disappear from the black dot list  and become neutral, esp. when combined with genoharmonic food at the end of the SWAMI report.


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Check the Type Base Food Values to see potential throttling to your metabolism that the black dot causes. Any black dot will eventually reveal some damage done by the end of a week. (which is why it is wise not to consume a meal of mainly black dots, either.) My beloved oysters, high in good nutrients, eventually produce acne cysts.


Actually, I eat chicken a couple times a month and it has never revealed any adverse effects.  It can actually become a neutral if I tweak an entry or two on my SWAMI parameters.  It's not like it's red meat which would reveal its ugly head in no time.  Heck, I've got diamonds that wreak havoc on my system.
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This might actually be a good thing if you have trouble sleeping.  I've noticed that when I eat chicken (a dot on my SWAMI) in the evening that I sleep better at night.

But turkey does the same thing for me! I love turkey! The tiredness I was feeling with eating so much chicken was very oppressive, for lack of a better word. Not really a feeling of wanting to sleep so much.


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Actually, I eat chicken a couple times a month and it has never revealed any adverse effects.  It can actually become a neutral if I tweak an entry or two on my SWAMI parameters.  It's not like it's red meat which would reveal its ugly head in no time.  Heck, I've got diamonds that wreak havoc on my system.


Eating avoids may not cause apparent trouble like digestive issues or achey joinds, but they could be interfering with your progress in serious, more covert ways. I would be all for getting through the initial, most difficult healing process as quickly as your body could tolerate.





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Eating avoids may not cause apparent trouble like digestive issues or achey joinds, but they could be interfering with your progress in serious, more covert ways. I would be all for getting through the initial, most difficult healing process as quickly as your body could tolerate.



Yeah, but chicken has a tendency to flip back and forth from neutral to black dot and back again when I change even one parameter on my SWAMI.  I don't consider it a serious issue.  And the very definition of black dot is 'once in a while' which is how I'm approaching it anyway.
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Ah, I was thinking avoid, probably because it was once a regular, favorite meal and nearly killed me. Enjoy your chicken!
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Ah, I was thinking avoid, probably because it was once a regular, favorite meal and nearly killed me. Enjoy your chicken!


sorry i'm only curious...how did you notice that the chicken was the enemy ?
thank you


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...an inflammatory reaction, no doubt.....

here s a great read santina
http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2014/03/dr-dadamos-protocols-optimal-digestion/


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sorry i'm only curious...how did you notice that the chicken was the enemy ?
thank you


It was the first thing I eliminated abruptly and completely after reading what Dr. D said about it in ER4YT regarding it's strong agglutinating properties and inflammation reaction in B's and AB's. I felt that the way he described inflammation fit perfectly with what had been happening in my body to an increasingly dangerous effect during middle age. The steady march away from chicken consumption was quite a noticeable improvement. 10 days out was an improvement over 5 days out... 2 weeks out was an improvement over 10 days out, and so on. It was as if a relief valve had been pulled, and I virtually deflated.

Totally eliminating wheat and corn came later, and focusing primarily on beneficials after that (not the way Dr. D recommends doing it, BTW, but helped me focus acutely with each phase of my "recovery").




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I stopped eating several major foods immediately, so I couldn't attribute feeling better to any specific food.  I have however, been able to see effects of specific foods when I contact them unavoidably when eating at someone's house or party, etc.

Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.

I also know an AB individual who was having TIAs regularly following several meals containing chicken, but since this was recognized and chicken is no longer served, this individual has had no additional TIAs in the last 2-3 years...


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Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.



Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.



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Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.



This is probably more of an AB thing...

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?108
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This is probably more of an AB thing...




Yup. Delicate flowers...

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Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.


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Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.





Same here with chicken....And SWAMI lists it as a neutral....not even a black dot or an avoid.  Some foods just feel like I've ingested poison....corn comes to mind.....and corn is often fed to chickens.

I thought this was interesting.

"Chickens, like people, are healthiest when they eat certain foods. Chickens are omnivorous, meaning they eat a variety of plants, seeds, insects and worms typically found in pastures. Corn feed provides more than enough calories, which causes the inactive chickens to bulk up quickly, but it’s too low in fatty acids and certain amino acids, vitamins and minerals for chickens to thrive. Consequently, extra vitamins, minerals and amino acids are added to corn feed so that chickens can develop properly, lay eggs and mount an immune response against diseases. Still, corn-fed chickens need antibiotics and hormones in order to thwart infection and grow quickly."


http://www.livestrong.com/article/557705-the-disadvantages-of-corn-fed-chicken/

From Typebase regarding chicken.....CONTAMINATION      This food is can be a source of bacterial contamination. Search out organically grown alternatives and practice proper food handling procedures.(Source: USDA)


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Yeah, I was going to say, cutting out chicken was HUGE for me too.  Probably an AB thing.  But this country consumes and creates a lot of yucky chickens.  They're genetically modified and full of c**p.  So....  if an A feels worse on chicken, it COULD be possibly the quality of the chicken.  A farm raised one or organic MIGHT yield better results.  Even for us AB's that shouldn't eat it.  If for some reason you wanted to indulge, maybe stay away from the typically sold chickens.  

What's really strange about all this AB and B having problems with chickens things is that chicken eggs are super good.  Weird.  You would think it wouldn't be any different.  


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What's really strange about all this AB and B having problems with chickens things is that chicken eggs are super good.  Weird.  You would think it wouldn't be any different.  

The lectin is in the muscle and blood, not the fat or egg protein...


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yesterday -for the first time- i eat ostrich!
it was on my swami.
i'm starting to appreciate it.
after the dubious beginning and the moving from BTD, i'm actually quite excited about it.
i'm discovering new foods, new dishes.
i have still some fear to take back something i haven't eaten since ages but still, i'm work in progress, a step a day leaves the fear away!
thank you for your support-as you suggested-i gave it a try and i'm happy about it, it's a sort of psychological step forward not only a physical one.


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oops, sorry, i meant.......yesterday i ate ostrich


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The lectin is in the muscle and blood, not the fat or egg protein...


Aaaaaah.  Thank you.



Santina, we love Ostrich in our family too.  It's kind of expensive though and haven't eaten it in a while.  But we did for a while.  I think it got harder to find too, which is mainly why we stopped.  It IS really good though.  


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Hi Santina,

Ostrich--good for you. So you have a source.  Are they growing ostrich locally in Italy? I know we have a few small farms along the central CA coast, but I've not found it in stores.  Maybe available at the farmer's markets.

And you need not apologize--your English is excellent.
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Hi Susan

can you believe it???? yes, they do! .........

GROWTH CURVES OF INTENSIVELY REARED OSTRICHES (Struthio camelus) IN NORTHERN ITALY (1)
In Italy ostrich breeding started about 10 years ago and is becoming more and more consistent, thus representing the most important ostrich producer in Europe.

....and it is easily found in the market. A revelation!


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about SWAMI recipes I NEED HELP TO UNDERSTAND

i read " Recipes with more diamonds are more helpful and should be used frequently in your meal planning".
and that's ok!

then: there are different "sections" such as Snacks-Salads-Appetizers-Soups-Entrees...etc

does it mean
first---- that i can choose to eat every dish of that section every time of the day ?

second----that i can combine every recipe of those "sections"?

thank you and sorry (i remember a gorgeous Lp by Jethro Tull "Thick as a brick".........it's me!)


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You should follow the SWAMI food printout for portion sizes of each food. Whether you use a recipe from SWAMI, your own recipe, or a handful of food "not in a tasty recipe at all" you still need to follow the portion sizes. Eating too many "snacks" may put you over the portion limits if you don't pay attention.

You can have any food at whatever time of the day you prefer.


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