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Thursday, March 6, 2014, 7:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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This might actually be a good thing if you have trouble sleeping.  I've noticed that when I eat chicken (a dot on my SWAMI) in the evening that I sleep better at night.

But turkey does the same thing for me! I love turkey! The tiredness I was feeling with eating so much chicken was very oppressive, for lack of a better word. Not really a feeling of wanting to sleep so much.


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Actually, I eat chicken a couple times a month and it has never revealed any adverse effects.  It can actually become a neutral if I tweak an entry or two on my SWAMI parameters.  It's not like it's red meat which would reveal its ugly head in no time.  Heck, I've got diamonds that wreak havoc on my system.


Eating avoids may not cause apparent trouble like digestive issues or achey joinds, but they could be interfering with your progress in serious, more covert ways. I would be all for getting through the initial, most difficult healing process as quickly as your body could tolerate.





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Eating avoids may not cause apparent trouble like digestive issues or achey joinds, but they could be interfering with your progress in serious, more covert ways. I would be all for getting through the initial, most difficult healing process as quickly as your body could tolerate.



Yeah, but chicken has a tendency to flip back and forth from neutral to black dot and back again when I change even one parameter on my SWAMI.  I don't consider it a serious issue.  And the very definition of black dot is 'once in a while' which is how I'm approaching it anyway.
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Saturday, March 8, 2014, 2:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ah, I was thinking avoid, probably because it was once a regular, favorite meal and nearly killed me. Enjoy your chicken!
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Ah, I was thinking avoid, probably because it was once a regular, favorite meal and nearly killed me. Enjoy your chicken!


sorry i'm only curious...how did you notice that the chicken was the enemy ?
thank you


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...an inflammatory reaction, no doubt.....

here s a great read santina
http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2014/03/dr-dadamos-protocols-optimal-digestion/


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sorry i'm only curious...how did you notice that the chicken was the enemy ?
thank you


It was the first thing I eliminated abruptly and completely after reading what Dr. D said about it in ER4YT regarding it's strong agglutinating properties and inflammation reaction in B's and AB's. I felt that the way he described inflammation fit perfectly with what had been happening in my body to an increasingly dangerous effect during middle age. The steady march away from chicken consumption was quite a noticeable improvement. 10 days out was an improvement over 5 days out... 2 weeks out was an improvement over 10 days out, and so on. It was as if a relief valve had been pulled, and I virtually deflated.

Totally eliminating wheat and corn came later, and focusing primarily on beneficials after that (not the way Dr. D recommends doing it, BTW, but helped me focus acutely with each phase of my "recovery").




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I stopped eating several major foods immediately, so I couldn't attribute feeling better to any specific food.  I have however, been able to see effects of specific foods when I contact them unavoidably when eating at someone's house or party, etc.

Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.

I also know an AB individual who was having TIAs regularly following several meals containing chicken, but since this was recognized and chicken is no longer served, this individual has had no additional TIAs in the last 2-3 years...


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Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.



Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.



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Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.



This is probably more of an AB thing...

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?108
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This is probably more of an AB thing...




Yup. Delicate flowers...

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Chicken gives me significant leg and joint pain.


Quoted from Averno


Same here. This relief alone was worth the (SWAMI) price of admission IMO.





Same here with chicken....And SWAMI lists it as a neutral....not even a black dot or an avoid.  Some foods just feel like I've ingested poison....corn comes to mind.....and corn is often fed to chickens.

I thought this was interesting.

"Chickens, like people, are healthiest when they eat certain foods. Chickens are omnivorous, meaning they eat a variety of plants, seeds, insects and worms typically found in pastures. Corn feed provides more than enough calories, which causes the inactive chickens to bulk up quickly, but it’s too low in fatty acids and certain amino acids, vitamins and minerals for chickens to thrive. Consequently, extra vitamins, minerals and amino acids are added to corn feed so that chickens can develop properly, lay eggs and mount an immune response against diseases. Still, corn-fed chickens need antibiotics and hormones in order to thwart infection and grow quickly."


http://www.livestrong.com/article/557705-the-disadvantages-of-corn-fed-chicken/

From Typebase regarding chicken.....CONTAMINATION      This food is can be a source of bacterial contamination. Search out organically grown alternatives and practice proper food handling procedures.(Source: USDA)


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Yeah, I was going to say, cutting out chicken was HUGE for me too.  Probably an AB thing.  But this country consumes and creates a lot of yucky chickens.  They're genetically modified and full of c**p.  So....  if an A feels worse on chicken, it COULD be possibly the quality of the chicken.  A farm raised one or organic MIGHT yield better results.  Even for us AB's that shouldn't eat it.  If for some reason you wanted to indulge, maybe stay away from the typically sold chickens.  

What's really strange about all this AB and B having problems with chickens things is that chicken eggs are super good.  Weird.  You would think it wouldn't be any different.  


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What's really strange about all this AB and B having problems with chickens things is that chicken eggs are super good.  Weird.  You would think it wouldn't be any different.  

The lectin is in the muscle and blood, not the fat or egg protein...


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yesterday -for the first time- i eat ostrich!
it was on my swami.
i'm starting to appreciate it.
after the dubious beginning and the moving from BTD, i'm actually quite excited about it.
i'm discovering new foods, new dishes.
i have still some fear to take back something i haven't eaten since ages but still, i'm work in progress, a step a day leaves the fear away!
thank you for your support-as you suggested-i gave it a try and i'm happy about it, it's a sort of psychological step forward not only a physical one.


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oops, sorry, i meant.......yesterday i ate ostrich


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Quoted from ABJoe

The lectin is in the muscle and blood, not the fat or egg protein...


Aaaaaah.  Thank you.



Santina, we love Ostrich in our family too.  It's kind of expensive though and haven't eaten it in a while.  But we did for a while.  I think it got harder to find too, which is mainly why we stopped.  It IS really good though.  


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Hi Santina,

Ostrich--good for you. So you have a source.  Are they growing ostrich locally in Italy? I know we have a few small farms along the central CA coast, but I've not found it in stores.  Maybe available at the farmer's markets.

And you need not apologize--your English is excellent.
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Hi Susan

can you believe it???? yes, they do! .........

GROWTH CURVES OF INTENSIVELY REARED OSTRICHES (Struthio camelus) IN NORTHERN ITALY (1)
In Italy ostrich breeding started about 10 years ago and is becoming more and more consistent, thus representing the most important ostrich producer in Europe.

....and it is easily found in the market. A revelation!


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about SWAMI recipes I NEED HELP TO UNDERSTAND

i read " Recipes with more diamonds are more helpful and should be used frequently in your meal planning".
and that's ok!

then: there are different "sections" such as Snacks-Salads-Appetizers-Soups-Entrees...etc

does it mean
first---- that i can choose to eat every dish of that section every time of the day ?

second----that i can combine every recipe of those "sections"?

thank you and sorry (i remember a gorgeous Lp by Jethro Tull "Thick as a brick".........it's me!)


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You should follow the SWAMI food printout for portion sizes of each food. Whether you use a recipe from SWAMI, your own recipe, or a handful of food "not in a tasty recipe at all" you still need to follow the portion sizes. Eating too many "snacks" may put you over the portion limits if you don't pay attention.

You can have any food at whatever time of the day you prefer.


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You're not thick.  There is a lot to learn. It's a lifelong thing.  


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