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nico
Saturday, February 1, 2014, 3:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello,

My partner and I bought the french edition of the book "Eat Right 4 your Type". Wanting to have something always accessible I then bought the kindle edition (in english this time) of  "Eat Right 4 Blood Type O".

I was really surprised to find out very big discrepancies between the 2 books in the recommendations for blood type O. Some food that are considered as beneficial for group O in one book are in the avoid category on the other book, some that are in neutral in one are in avoid in the other etc...

We're actually quite confused as we can't understand why the informations could be different in those books, so any help would be very much appreciated.

Here is the summary of the differences I found in those books for each categories.
(A) here stands for the french version of the  "Eat Right 4 your Type" book whereas
(O) stands for the english version of the "Eat Right 4 Blood Type O" book.  

Meat & Poultry
Goose : O - neutral; A - avoid
Quail : O - avoid; A - neutral

Seafood & Fish
Bass : O - beneficial; A - neutral
Hake : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Herring (fresh) :  O - neutral; A - beneficial
Mackerel : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Salmon : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Whiting : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Squid : O - avoid; A - neutral
Frog : O - avoid; A - neutral
Abalone : O - avoid; A - neutral

Nuts & Seeds
Chestnut : O - avoid; A - neutral
Sunflower butter : O - avoid; A neutral
Sunflower seed : O - avoid; A neutral

Grain, Breads & Pasta
Oat (Bran,Flour,Meal) : O - neutral; A - avoid
Soba noodles (100% buckwheat) : O - neutral; A - avoid

Vegetables
Garlic : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Leek : O - avoid; A - beneficial
Endive : O - neutral; A - beneficial
Brussels sprouts : O - neutral; A - avoid
Cabbage (chinese/green/red/white) : O neutral; A - avoid
Eggplant : O - neutral; A - avoid
Cucumber : O - avoid;  A - neutral;

Fruits
Banana : O - beneficial; A - neutral
Cherry (all) : O - beneficial; A - neutral
Guava : O - beneficial; A - neutral
Mango : O - beneficial;  A - neutral
Strawberry : O - neutral; A - avoid
Kiwi : O - avoid; A - neutral

Spices
Cinnamon : O - neutral; A - avoid
Vanilla : O -neutral; A - avoid
Vinegar (apple cider) : O - neutral; A - avoid

Condiment
Worcestershire sauce : O - avoid; A - neutral

Misc Beverages
Green tea : O - beneficial; A - neutral
Wine, white : O - avoid; A - neutral

As you can see this is quite confusing… How come "Leek" would either be highly beneficial or to avoid depending of the book you're reading.

I can send over the full excel sheet I used to compare all the elements if it's any help.

Thanks a lot,
Nico
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As you can see this is quite confusing… How come "Leek" would either be highly beneficial or to avoid depending of the book you're reading.


Thanks a lot,
Nico


Hi Nico,

Sometimes things get lost in translation. I suspect that is the case with leeks.

In addition, both versions would have normal errata as a part of the publishing. There is a list of errata for the English version on site.  http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi

Also, a few changes were made at a later date when more data became available.

Please use the following reference as your source for information if you know your secretor status:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

If you are unsure of your secretor status and wish to use the simplified version, please use the English text in combination with published errata lists.

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I had the same question when I came here a little more than a year ago, Nico.


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I also recognized that it seems Piperverlag committed several massive errors in german variation of the 4 bloodtypes, the encyclopedia.... ...I wouldn't have accepted this likewise...


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Live Right is much better than Eat Right.
Eat Right mentions the non-secretor issue, but not strongly enough.  The foods they said were avoids for O like avocados made me feel great & later I found out they were OK for non-secretors.
There were very few fruits listed as beneficial for Os, but in the SWAMI & non-secretor diet, the list is better.
Dr. D learns along with us, but keeps on researching & writing. It ultimately benfits us.

The main baddies are still the main ones like dairy & wheat for O.  So, try to work on the main things & see how you fare.
Do the same for the very beneficial things like meat for O.

Best wishes for success!!


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Of course I mean that Dr. D is light years ahead of us, but is still willing to learn new things.


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What we know as people is always expounding, changing, and improving. The science of these books is no different.

The first, Eat Right, is what the publishers wanted. It was a hit, so the publishers were willing to invest in more. Live Right was more detailed, with up to date food lists. That's why it's different.

You see, foods had to be tested, and that took money, and expertise. The way foods were tested then was a very time consuming skill. I have no idea how things may have changed in that quarter today.

When Peter published Genotype, we went from analyzing food, to self. It was radical for me, the reader, no point in looking back

Do not get me wrong, Eat Right, and Live Right are still relevant. I could follow either and have great health, and believe most of us could.  Do not let the differences worry you. It's a good thing.

So through many avenues, and improved tools, Peter stays on top of the pertinent research for us. He then delivers it to us in an elegant, understandable language for the layperson.

Take your time, enjoy the journey. Change only stops with the last breath.

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The app represents the most updated food list, while the printed book has the same foods from 1996. A few foods may have been mistakes in translation, but some food values actually DID change once Dr D factored in secretor status (when Live Right 4 Your Type was first published.) The initial book was a blend of secretor and non-secretor values, since it was published before the secretor tests were readily available.

Meanwhile, the app has settings for secretor and non-secretor. Most people are secretors, so use that setting if you don't know your secretor status.

Whenever there are differences between the book and the app, use the values from the app. You can write the changes into the book for easy reference later, if you want.


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Thanks a lot for all those informations it does make sense

It was quite discouraging at first, when you just start to look into this diet and find so many discrepancies.

Now I have a better understanding, and I know to which source to refer.

Thanks.
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