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ebla
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Hi Ebla,
Over the years I've been reading this board, it has been repeated many times by all the wise people who contribute here, that the body knows what/when to heal first.

Going with this thought, my approach is to relax about how fast/slow my body is healing/changing.  Maybe what feels like plateau is not. Sometimes healing is so subtle you can't tell it's
happening.  Just know that you are on the right path.  With time, you'll learn more about the messages your body gives you and you learn to adjust the food you take in.


Thanks for the nice words. But the problem is exactly this: how can I know that I'm on the right path? Just assuming that I am is an act of faith that I'm not able to make psychologically. It is the same act of faith that I refused when all traditional doctors asked me to make and to trust them that everything was going to be fine because from the tests everything was ok. Which is what got me to worsen my health to the point that I had to do something different. Again, D'Adamo's is so far encouraging but getting less encouraging as time goes by because the improvement is kind of stuck. If there was a way to know for sure that your body is getting fixed...
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I believe that the answer to this question is in KimonoKat's response of January 24th above:

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I would give this plan six months to a year.  Think how long it took for your body to get where it is.

Patience.
I myself have been on the plan for nearly 8 years.





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I believe that the answer to this question is in KimonoKat's response of January 24th above:

I myself have been on the plan for nearly 8 years.





Thanks. I would love to learn some more details of your healing process. What stages you went through. What conditions you improved and over how long. Etc..
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I would say that you are on the right path based on the improvements you have had so far.  Of course, there will have to be adjustments with your food, the frequency and amounts as you learn more.  You'll discover that a beneficial might not be as beneficial as you thought.  So you adjust.

The body has its own schedule.  You might feel that you have reached a plateau, but give it some time.  You have been at it for 2 months.  I've been at it for 8 years and not all my issues have been resolved.  But I'm at a much better place than without this diet.  I'm saying this because I've experienced what you are questioning now.  I'm replying with the best intention.
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Thanks for sharing. Maybe you misinterpreted my message but I'm not experiencing an healing crisis. I actually feel a bit better than before but sort of plateau and sometimes feel as before so not well. I'm not feeling worse, in which case I would interpret as you said like a healing crisis and probably not complain about it because it would be explainable. What I cannot explain is a condition that seemed encouraging at the beginning but now feels like I'm stuck and sometimes degrading back to the original situation.

I think that you are not getting that healing isn't a linear function.  There is an ebb and flow feeling - ie., you may feel very good then revert back to what you were prior to starting the diet.  The body will quite often not be able to go, go, go...  It quite often has to take a break and settle, then heal more.


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What conditions you improved and over how long. Etc..
Please read this:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1311119305/s-0/highlight-thyroid/#num0

It is an example.  

Cheers,
yaeli



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Dr. D's diets, DPN - D'Adamo Personalized Nutrition, are purely about health. So the more you search and study, the more you learn about what is beneficial for you, the better you progress, the better you feel.

Your secretor status is a basic key to how to take care of yourself. Dr. D pointed this out in his book Live Right 4 Your Type (LR4YT) and since then it has been integrated in all his diets: BTD/GTD/SWAMI.

It is more than amazing what a tremendous support each and every one of us gets from Dr. D's books; from this website, which is a vast streaming source and fountain of tremendous knowledge in its own right; from these forums, where experienced friends devotedly and relentlessly support newbies and one another; and from Dr. D's adjacent websites, like 4yourtype.com, where you are enlightened about Dr. D's supplements - while each and every one of us remains a unique individual, a whole world in itself.


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well spoken Yaeli


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Thank you Lola. Although there's always a lot of work to do and nothing instantaneous here, there's no greater happiness than when an improvement in health appears suddenly like a miracle, a shooting star, a herald!

This brings up in me AKArtlover's forum's signature:
"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14


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You'll discover that a beneficial might not be as beneficial as you thought.  So you adjust.


Is there a way to know what beneficials are more likely not to be beneficial? It is kind of difficult to stay on a diet where you rely on beneficials to get better but with a chance that they are not so beneficial. Can you elaborate on this? I'm a bit confused..
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Obviouly every one is a bit different, everyone has his own proper conditions, and this shouldn't bother you at all. I'm positive that you recognize this in every step in life. There's plenty for everyone.


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I copy the text you quoted in post #85:

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You'll discover that a beneficial might not be as beneficial as you thought.  So you adjust.
Who wrote this and in what context? Thank you.


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It would be very helpful if you know more closely Dr. D'Adamo's writings and work.


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I copy the text you quoted in post #85:

Who wrote this and in what context? Thank you.


Post #78

Do you disagree with that statement?

I read BTD book and some of GTD. Recommendations?

Thanks
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Maybe fasting would give you a boost. Find a good practitioner or some good books that describe what happens when you fast. It is very helpful.


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Post #78

Do you disagree with that statement?

I read BTD book and some of GTD. Recommendations?

Thanks
You must have heard about SWAMI, Dr. D's most advanced diet format, which combines BTD and GTD to tailor/build for you a personal diet according to a questionnaire that you answer. This is the latest development by Dr. D'Adamo in building a tool for personalized nutrition, and the closest to your personal needs and condition.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED070

In this page there's also an audio where Dr. D explains about SWAMI - best listen to his explanation (such a pleasant experience!   ) , and maybe you'll be fascinated, choose it, and enjoy it, like many of us have done, including yt.





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Maybe fasting would give you a boost. Find a good practitioner or some good books that describe what happens when you fast. It is very helpful.

Skipping meals is not recommended for Type A, as it stresses the body quite heavily.  


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You must have heard about SWAMI, Dr. D's most advanced diet format, which combines BTD and GTD to tailor/build for you a personal diet according to a questionnaire that you answer. This is the latest development by Dr. D'Adamo in building a tool for personalized nutrition, and the closest to your personal needs and condition.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED070

In this page there's also an audio where Dr. D explains about SWAMI - best listen to his explanation (such a pleasant experience!   ) , and maybe you'll be fascinated, choose it, and enjoy it, like many of us have done, including yt.





As explained in previous posts I'm already on swami which is almost identical to my BTD.
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General update: had 3 decent days. Regular BM and not lots of bloating. Then yesterday started again having lots of gas and today as well. Also no BM. I alternate decent days to really bad ones. And I don't think it is something I eat because I cannot find a pattern. Obviously following the swami. Just seems that some days are better than others. Hope as you all suggest that it will get better over time, but every day that passes I am less optimistic. I feel tired and dizzy as well. I understand some may suggest it is healing crisis but honestly these symptoms are those I am trying to cure...
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ebla, you are describing how my gut has always worked...some days good, not so good.  I'd be curious to know your genotype and secretor status.

Just to give you some personal feedback, for the past three days, I've eaten my exact recommended SWAMI's portions for both fruit and vegetables, nuts, seeds and actually cut down my grain portions
to zero.  For me, personally, I don't seem to do well with grains at all.  A little brown rice can be
okay if I've eaten plenty of vegetables, but rice and animal protein are a very difficult digestive
combination.... Some days I know I'm a bit short on veggies and other days, I'm short on fruit and
fruit juices....but for three days in a row, I was having optimum portions.  Digestive system is SO
much better today.  I also took bromelain with every meal which I think helps digestion.  I also made sure to drink adequate amounts of liquid and maybe because we were having a snow storm, and I was home, I was more focused on my portions, chewing, drinking with greater intention.  Sometimes for a type A, the gut function has to do with being relaxed. And sometimes when I'm eating too quickly or too many different foods in the same meal, the result is bloat, gas and the sense that I've
overly packed my digestive system and it just gets clogged.

There are many yoga positions that help digestion.  You can even search on youtube "constipation and yoga positions"..  A lot of free information.

Don't get caught up on the catch phrase "healing crisis".  Not all symptoms are crisis related. For me, I can go many days and feel like everything smoothly rolls along....and then suddenly, I feel
blocked/clogged and sometimes overstuffed, even if I haven't eaten more food...but perhaps a little
"off" with every food group being in  proper proportion....or not getting enough relaxation or even
enough exercise.

A good diet is going to be helpful...but there is more than just eating to feeling balanced.  Stress
of any kind can lead to a lot of imbalance.  Just sayin'....and not saying this is your issues.....often
this is mine.


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Chloe have you tried food intolerance test? I mean, we are assuming that the swami is the right diet but are we sure about it? Maybe we are still eating something that is not right.. how long have you been on the diet?

Im a teacher but don't know my secretor. However sec or not has very little difference for my profile.

Honestly when I hear people saying that even swami does not work I lose confidence in the diet.
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Chloe have you tried food intolerance test? I mean, we are assuming that the swami is the right diet but are we sure about it? Maybe we are still eating something that is not right.. how long have you been on the diet?

Im a teacher but don't know my secretor. However sec or not has very little difference for my profile.

Honestly when I hear people saying that even swami does not work I lose confidence in the diet.

I'm not Chloe, but I have been following BTD, GTD and SWAMI for about 10 years now.  SWAMI is the best diet of the 3, although the software can not take into account any specific food sensitivity that any individual body has, only those that are typical for the group.  It denies foods that are problems for specific types, but recommends foods based on nutrition, etc. content and individual group needs to stimulate organ systems that tend to be weaknesses in groups.  It individualizes based on medical history to stimulate typical weaknesses that allow specific disease conditions to happen.  As it cannot sense specifically what your body is doing, it can never know your specific sensitivities, therefore, this is the part you need to deal with - at least until your body is healthier and may reduce the sensitivity to those foods once other toxin levels are reduced.

Please understand that it may take some time to clean out any stored toxins.  The amount of time will depend on you individually, so I can't put a time frame on it, but let me say that I am still cleaning and healing.  I have seen tremendous improvement, but still have more to do.  The body heals things that you may not know were a problem, so your first priority is not necessarily what the body heals first...  Some days it is a struggle to maintain confidence, especially when we feel like we are back at the beginning, but for me, that is when the body is clearing the most junk out - so it is of the greatest benefit to the body to have those days.  

Keep your chin up and enjoy getting better!


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Chloe have you tried food intolerance test? I mean, we are assuming that the swami is the right diet but are we sure about it? Maybe we are still eating something that is not right.. how long have you been on the diet?

Im a teacher but don't know my secretor. However sec or not has very little difference for my profile.

Honestly when I hear people saying that even swami does not work I lose confidence in the diet.


I mentioned in the beginning of my post about the healing crisis that I'm following the BTD diet since I'm 47 years old...was one of Dr. D's earlier patients when he first opened his practice in CT so this was at the very beginning of anyone ever hearing the words "Blood Type Diet" and the
books hadn't been yet written. It's very likely I'm one of the longest followers of this way of eating
on the forum, and I can just say that prior to ever starting on this diet, I had been to 3 different allergists....had undergone allergy testing and treatment and still had what I would have described as food intolerances.  It appears that everyone in my family has issues with gluten...my oldest son, allergic as an infant...projectile vomiting...I was way too young when he was born to have understood that milk and wheat were giving him constant digestive problems.  The year was 1965 when my first son was born, I was 22 years old and the thought of food intolerances was rather absent from medical discussion.  Second child had worse allergies than first child...severe gut problems, failure to thrive for the first 5 months of his life and after trying 9 different baby formulas, with results of vomiting, diarrhea and weight loss, finally, he reacted positively to a beef based formula.  I fed this child brown liquified beef for 3 years and he began to thrive....and he's blood type A.  Likely he's an Explorer as he did well on a lamb based baby formula too.....but both my children are type A.  My sisters are type A.  One has severe allergies.  She too is likely an
Explorer.  Youngest sister seems to have digestive problems but no severe allergies.  Yet, all the
As in my family do not tolerate wheat, gluten, dairy and some of us don't do well on eggs.

Sorry, for going off topic.  So, allergy testing, yes I had that....allergy treatment too, but not at all effective....and no test ever showed to be accurate. My first year on the BTD seemed to calm my
immune system.  My airborne allergies improved...although the original BTD gave me no eggs,
or dairy so I really ate plant foods for many years with a little poultry...So, on the basic BTD
I did very well.  My biggest problem was that I was still eating wheat...and then wound up with
Lyme disease in 1990, had 5 straight months of antibiotics which totally wrecked my gut. After
that time, I became intolerant of gluten grains...but didn't realize it was a gluten issue.  Off gluten
for the past 10 years, still working on healing my gut.  Grains in general might not have been
a problem for me had I not had so much gut damage from taking long term antibiotics.

So....SWAMI generally feels right to me.  My SWAMI happens to be a professional SWAMI, done in Dr. D's office in Bridgeport, CT....so I don't think there is anything wrong with my SWAMI, but evidently something is still not perfect with my gut after so much good bacteria was wiped out.

Maybe what you need to understand that SWAMI is one basic tool....and you have to give it many months before you evaluate it...You might do yourself a favor to keep a food diary....list your breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks....and keep a running total for the month....seeing if you can figure out if any foods aren't feeling like they're working for you.  It took me a few years before
I was able to eat manchego cheese.  I finally tolerate it well.

I think this is a mater not trying to judge your moment to moment feelings....not letting
yourself be influenced by the negative experiences of others.....not letting yourself have negative thoughts about what you're doing....Just be an observer of your body....and believe that if
others made progress, so can you....Find something relaxing like meditation, deep breathing and yoga to balance your diet...Make sure you get enough sleep and the right type of activity.....Sometimes you realize toxicity doesn't come from within your body, but from the people around you.  Your job, your friends....Sometimes when you start changing, what defined
you prior isn't what you want to define you now.

It's difficult for me to adequately express to you how powerful this diet can be if you allow yourself to trust it. I can see who I once was and who I've become....Well, I'm
older and wiser, but I'm also clearer in the way I feel and think. LIke I said in my post that mentioned healing crisis that healing is like peeling away layers of an onion.  I wish I had the
benefits of a SWAMI when I first began the BTD....The epigenetic benefits are profoundly unique.
Nowhere else on the planet has anyone devised a diet that can potentially protect your genes
against the failure and dysfunction of what you might have inherited from your ancestors.

If I were you, I'd give this more time....just keep your compliance level high and your emotional
system balanced.  It takes awhile to get into the grove of doing something new and different.
I hope you can continue to stick with it and find the great benefits that so many of us have experienced.




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