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ebla
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Hi all,

I'm new here and I need some feedback from you experts.

Short bio: 30 yo, European, fit

Recap of my story so far: in a nutshell, I started looking at diet when I realized my problem could be related to what I was eating. Trouble sleeping (waking up every single night, no exception, between 2 and 3 AM without being able to sleep again), constant bloating and gas, acne, tiredness, no regular bowel movements. Cut gluten cause they found markers in blood, cut alcohol, refined food. Saw some improvements over 1 year but far from resolution of my symptoms. Also tried a bunch of other things, like flushes, elimination diets of different kind, paleo diet, kefir, etc... Noticed big improvements doing fasting and eating mostly vegetables, but of course something not easy to keep going in the long term. Finally tried BTD...

BTD: since 10 days I have basically eliminated meat, potatoes and rest of nightshades, milk and all avoids. I eat veggies, fish, rice, buckwheat and corn pasta, wine, coffee, some kefir. I noticed less acne and for the first time in my life I have BM after breakfast and lunch regularly. But I keep being bloated, still get some acne, still don't sleep all night, still white tongue. I feel like things are improving but I wonder whether I reached a plateau or not. I know it is only 10 days, but shouldn't I have no bloating at all already??? This is a very weird thing as I have always been bloated last 10-15 years, unless I do a cleanse, and I never put on weight. Like never. There is no way I get any fat at all. Which has always been a very weird thing I have no explanation for..

Can you help me understand what is going on and what I should expect or change?

Thanks a lot!!
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Sure some A will come to help soon.  Some information that will be useful for them :
Are you female or male?

Are you taking a probiotic other than kefir. Cleansing can kill, good and bad, making it easily for the bad bacteria to multiply causing bloating and renewing the cycle.

Oh, and welcome


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10 days is not long enough for anything-- 3 months is a start and a year is better.

You need to know you secretor status and then go from there.

Get rid of the corn pasta ( you can have some rice pasta but never as the back bone of a diet)-- buy Live Right for Your Type and read about non secretors might be surprised to find yourself there.

Follow the basic A diet or the non secretor diet.
Both are in the Live Right for Your Type.


Then move to the SWAMI which will take some work but in the end you will find that you feel better and better.

Still best would be to head to University of Bridgeport in Conn. to see  Dr. D'Adamo and his team for the most targeted results.

As for sleep get some valerian take two caps  and some melatonin  3 mg  and take it one hour before bed. It will help you sleep more deeply you can add some ashwaghanda but try the two I  mentioned first ( If it helps Dr. D told me to take those last time I saw him).


IF you are a nonnie you will need active b12 in the morning on a regular basis--

Lots to do   try not to get overwhelmed  be patient with your body  concentrate on food for health.


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10 days is still a very short time to be eating right, and your body has a lot of healing to do.

Bloating, gas, and constipation are usually signs of imbalanced gut flora, and a white tongue usually indicates a yeast overgrowth. Some yeast is a normal part of the gut ecosystem, but when there are too many yeasts and not enough of the right kinds of bacteria, it causes unpleasant symptoms.

You're now eating the right foods to "feed the good germs" but you haven't yet gotten the "bad germs" down to their normal numbers nor the "good germs" up to the populations they should have. As the gut flora shift over to a healthier balance, gas and bloating can continue, or even go through cycles of getting better and worse, all while moving towards overall healing.

Polyflora A should help get your gut in balance faster than only getting probiotics from kefir. There are probably some other gut-building supplements that would also help you along, although I'm not entirely sure which ones.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from deblynn3
Sure some A will come to help soon.  Some information that will be useful for them :
Are you female or male?

Are you taking a probiotic other than kefir. Cleansing can kill, good and bad, making it easily for the bad bacteria to multiply causing bloating and renewing the cycle.

Oh, and welcome


Thanks for the feedback.

I'm a male and not taking other probiotics. I have taken in the past, of different kind. Nothing helped. I also had periods where I was drinking 1 liter kefir per day. Little difference. And by the way, I make kefir with unpasteurized goat milk.

Ref cleansing, I only had 3-4 of them over last 3 months to see if anything changed, but apart from getting flat belly after I flush, no big changes.
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This way of eating will clean your gut over time and your cells which is far better then flushes.

Slow and steady will win the race.

Gut flora is blood type specific and the food will change it slowly might be best to not use probiotics at first till you get the food right.

  A's have high cortisol  and need calming exercise-- like yoga.

You sound like you have adrenal fatique-- but careful which way you go with this so many opinions on how to treat it.


better then probiotic is ARA6 which the good doc gives to loads of us-- He told me to use it every night at bedtime   just plain good for us A's.



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Thanks a lot for the detailed answer!! Couple of clarifications.

Quoted from Andrea AWsec
10 days is not long enough for anything-- 3 months is a start and a year is better.


Got it. However I wonder if there is a sequence for symptoms to vanish. I would expect bloating and gas to be among the first to go away, no?

Quoted from Andrea AWsec
You need to know you secretor status and then go from there.


Do you know of anyone getting this done in Europe?

Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Get rid of the corn pasta ( you can have some rice pasta but never as the back bone of a diet)-- buy Live Right for Your Type and read about non secretors might be surprised to find yourself there.

Follow the basic A diet or the non secretor diet.
Both are in the Live Right for Your Type.


I will get the book and read through it. Did anything specific come to mind when you read my post? You seem to know a lot on the subject  

Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Still best would be to head to University of Bridgeport in Conn. to see  Dr. D'Adamo and his team for the most targeted results.


Not very handy cause I am based in Europe. Do you know of any center over here?
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Ebla,
First well done on taking a big step to better health.  It does take time and patience.
The white tongue is a sign of out of balance yeast and apparently most of us suffer with that due to antibiotics and the life style we have now.  It has been my main challenge.  You may want to watch that you don't eat too much fruit while you are working on that.  A good probiotic will also help. And as others have said the longer you are on the diet it willhelp.
You don't give your age but waking up can be caused by a variety of things. Caffeiene late in day, activities before bed such as computer related, etc.  Eating close to time of going to bed also, at least 2 hour gap is supposed to be good.
Keep up the great work!
Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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Quoted from ruthiegirl
10 days is still a very short time to be eating right, and your body has a lot of healing to do.

Bloating, gas, and constipation are usually signs of imbalanced gut flora, and a white tongue usually indicates a yeast overgrowth. Some yeast is a normal part of the gut ecosystem, but when there are too many yeasts and not enough of the right kinds of bacteria, it causes unpleasant symptoms.

You're now eating the right foods to "feed the good germs" but you haven't yet gotten the "bad germs" down to their normal numbers nor the "good germs" up to the populations they should have. As the gut flora shift over to a healthier balance, gas and bloating can continue, or even go through cycles of getting better and worse, all while moving towards overall healing.

Polyflora A should help get your gut in balance faster than only getting probiotics from kefir. There are probably some other gut-building supplements that would also help you along, although I'm not entirely sure which ones.


Thanks a lot. It seems like I have to be more patient.
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Where in Europe are you we have loads of people in Europe.

You can have it tested by saliva or blood we just need to figure it out.

Bacterial overgrowth is what A's get and we get all sorts of symptoms. I am know this part well as it is my achilles heel.

but we might be getting ahead of ourselves a bit and I don't want you chasing after every little idea someone says and get more confused.

I believe in the basics first and then see how it goes.


As for your question what came to mind was that you might be a non secretor-- and that might make the world of difference and if not you have more information about yourself.


Symptoms will disappear and you will remember them one day as a memory.




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I agree about getting a secretor status test but it would be a good idea to get a1 a2 test and very important to get a MN, MM or NN test.

your addressing the food which is the best place to start.

nest look a a de-stresses like yoga, walking, and things like cortiguard

get back to nature look at chemical influences on our health, fluoride chlorine, perfumes etc.

look at blood type probiotics, magnesium for a start.

also look at how much fruit / sugar you are eating.


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Where in Europe are you we have loads of people in Europe.

You can have it tested by saliva or blood we just need to figure it out.

Bacterial overgrowth is what A's get and we get all sorts of symptoms. I am know this part well as it is my achilles heel.

but we might be getting ahead of ourselves a bit and I don't want you chasing after every little idea someone says and get more confused.

I believe in the basics first and then see how it goes.


As for your question what came to mind was that you might be a non secretor-- and that might make the world of difference and if not you have more information about yourself.


Symptoms will disappear and you will remember them one day as a memory.




I live in Italy. Can you advise any center here or website where to find more info to get these tests done?

Thanks a lot!!
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I agree about getting a secretor status test but it would be a good idea to get a1 a2 test and very important to get a MN, MM or NN test.

your addressing the food which is the best place to start.

nest look a a de-stresses like yoga, walking, and things like cortiguard

get back to nature look at chemical influences on our health, fluoride chlorine, perfumes etc.

look at blood type probiotics, magnesium for a start.

also look at how much fruit / sugar you are eating.


Thank you.

I eat fruit, although not a lot. But I cut it out in the past when I was not following the BTD yet without major improvements. Should I avoid also beneficial and neutral fruit?
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Ebla,
First well done on taking a big step to better health.  It does take time and patience.
The white tongue is a sign of out of balance yeast and apparently most of us suffer with that due to antibiotics and the life style we have now.  It has been my main challenge.  You may want to watch that you don't eat too much fruit while you are working on that.  A good probiotic will also help. And as others have said the longer you are on the diet it willhelp.
You don't give your age but waking up can be caused by a variety of things. Caffeiene late in day, activities before bed such as computer related, etc.  Eating close to time of going to bed also, at least 2 hour gap is supposed to be good.
Keep up the great work!
Lin


I'm 30 yo, male, caucasian.

I have tested for candida and was negative. I also never seen any white stuff in my stools. Still possible I have it?

Thanks
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Remember how I said above that candida is part of the normal gut flora, but it only causes problems when it grows out of control? Well, it's quite possible to have "more candida than you should have" without having "enough candida to show up on lab tests." It's a more subtle form of imbalance. You probably don't need to do anything special to treat it, other than general work on fixing your gut.


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Italy? lets see if someone knows.



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Right 4 supplies testing kits for Italy:

http://right4eu.sageshops.co.u.....9428&language=It


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Update

I am following the diet and avoiding all avoids for secretors and non-secretors. However, two weeks and a half on the diet and things are worsening. I am sleeping worse than before, got a couple of huge pimples on my back (weird), lost regular BM which I had for the first 10 days. And all other symptoms not improving.

Can anyone tell me whether things are supposed to go so slow and actually getting worse instead of better? Any personal experience to share?

Thanks!
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A certain amount of "detox" is normal. Things sometimes do get worse before they get better. The skin specifically doesn't worry me.

However, the lack of bowel movements, insomnia, and overall fatigue doesn't sound "normal" to me. This diet is as much about what you DO eat as what you avoid.

What has your diet been like? Are you eating lots of veggies and getting enough protein? Are you eating enough beneficial foods? (If you're trying to combine the secretor and non-secretor diets, I'd suggest considering a food "beneficial" if it's "beneficial" on one list and "neutral" on the other, to broaden your range of beneficial foods to eat.)


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My diet is kefir with apple or veggie juice in the morning, coffee, rice with veggie like pumpkins or a pasta at lunch (buckwheat pasta), plus salad and veggies, maybe goat cheese, then peanuts and walnuts, and in the evening can be fish, veggies. Sometimes I get an egg, but I try to load on broccoli and beneficial as much as possible.

I am just discouraged because before starting I managed to get to sleep until 5ish in the morning without waking up, and now I am back to wake up regular at 2-3am, gassy, and not regular BM which I had first 10 days on the diet. Don't understand why it is getting worse when I cut out meat (which I was eating very often) and all the nightshades.  
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You might need more protein than you're getting.  Maybe try adding in some eggs and see how you do?


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Will try. Do you mind explaining me why I might need more protein? What for?

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